As usual, fox can never hide its tail for long.....

but when it does it always means that his mission is accomplished.

and sad news.....ordinary farmers will suffer.　

This post has been edited by ChanK: May 17 2010, 09:18 AM

Fantastic facts and fancies by Patrick Teoh!!!!




This is funny!...nothing beat a good laugh.

This post has been edited by ChanK: May 17 2010, 09:29 PM

價格高企成毛賊目標
百樂縣燕屋竊案頻傳

獨家報導：何漢賓
（直涼13日訊）燕窩價格高企不下，百樂縣燕屋成為竊賊下手的目標！

由于燕窩的價格飆升至1公斤超過5000令吉，再加上几乎市面上的燕屋都是無防盜系統的“空城”，結果就成為竊賊最愛的目標，本縣至少已有2間燕屋遭爆竊。

百樂縣燕窩商公會主席韋枝潤受訪時證實此事，並指竊案防不胜防，由于他們必須開洞口引燕筑巢，結果竊賊就由該洞口闖進來偷燕窩。

“更糟糕的是，一些新裝修引燕的屋子一旦入了賊，由于竊賊目的只為錢財，結果就在偷燕窩時，把幼鳥給弄死，很可能導致燕子不再返回筑巢，損失無法估計。”

他在百樂縣燕窩商公會與會員交流時，這么說話。

在與會員討論后，韋枝潤呼籲，要求燕窩商公會的會員裝上防盜裝置，即使防盜系統會非常的耗費本錢，為了長遠的利益著想，也得要裝上防盜系統。

韋枝潤指出，他也會提供一些會員的聯絡號碼給予巡邏隊員，以便如果巡邏隊員有發現到任何的蹤跡，可以直接與燕窩商取得聯絡。

他說，最好的方法就是得要和警方取得良好的聯繫，同時也要自我作好防盜措施，才可以避免受害。

韋枝潤要求燕窩商
引燕聲量勿開太大

韋枝潤要求燕窩商們得要自重，不要因為為了要引燕，而把聲量開得過大，影響到當地的居民。

他指出，至今，他仍接到不少的投訴，燕窩商開太大的音量，甚至長時間開聲音，結果影響到居民日常作息。

與此同時，他也希望燕窩商們可以加入公會，他指出，百樂縣共有上百間燕屋，可是仍有相當數量的燕窩商沒有加入公會。

他說，加入公會加強聯繫，有助于保護燕窩商們的利益。

另外，据了解，由于最近的燕子由于處于孵卵期，結果燕窩商遲遲無法收割燕窩，被竊賊有機可趁。

据被偷竊的燕窩商了解，他定時都有上去巡視，后來，他最后一次上去巡視時，發現燕窩已被人偷收割，而幼鳥也全跌死在地。

http://www.chinapress.com.my/content_new.a...rt=0514le03.txt


no need us to remind how much is the bn price....basically every month there will be news published and it always remind us the latest bn price...what to do? it is attractive. if u want, just go build a farm and earn it honestly lah!.


and two latest news still complained abt the same old issue : Sound pollution !.

this is another one where owner turn on sounds 24 hr....this for sure will be used by anti farm owner...my guess, the timer is faulty n the owner did not come to check the farm.


全天候播放遭投訴
擾民燕屋音響，拆！
（威南6日訊）燕屋音響違例，拆！
威省市政局執法組今早拆除高淵武吉班卓工業區雙層商店排屋其中一間燕屋誘燕音響，以及一些器材。

該組一行約30執法人員，是在威南警方人員陪同下，上午約9時許抵達武吉班卓工業園雙層商店排屋，並于11時15分完成任務后離開，有關執法行動由拉曼領導。

據悉，該組是接到當地居民投訴，指誘燕音響每天24小時不停播放，干擾了附近居民的生活作息，所以執法組今日展開執法行動。

有關單位再次行動中出動鐵鎚、電鋸及大剪刀進行拆除全套誘燕音響，播音機和3架降溫保濕噴水器等。

據悉，執法單位首先打開該燕屋店前正門和旁門，不料，竟發現燕屋業主在門后建築一道石灰牆堵住入口，他們只有操后門進入執行任務。

the association should distribute stickers to their members and the sticker with association contact no. by doing that if anything happen at least the neighbours can contact the association n complain to them instead of troubling the govt officers as they are very buzy in not doing anything. asking them to do things is troublesome.

This post has been edited by ChanK: May 18 2010, 08:04 AM

Sadly, thts true...

this forum is mainly read faithfully by few groups of ppls, to name a few :

1) ppls with failed/slowed farms that looking for solutions to revive their farms.
2) ppls that want to get into the industry and trying to find as much info as possible.
3) officers that are trying to look for lubang to find ways to corrupt n earn sinful money.
4) anti farms ppls that trying to pick on bone for reasons to get rid of us.

and the least...ppls that try to use this forum to spread info whether good or bad that will affect the industry.

so asking all these 1 to 4 groups of ppls to fight this war is hopeless (in fact it will affect them whether they are shop farms or standalone farm owners).



but salute u, hackwire, u not even a farmer yet u are voicing for the thousands of farmers that will be affected by the new ruling.


as for whether they will let their childrens to name as dog, maybe they will compromise so that they only allowed others to name them dog during certain times or days?

Compromise is the key, right?



This post has been edited by ChanK: May 26 2010, 07:41 PM

Rooftop farming booming in New York

NEW YORK, April 26 — Urban farming is a growth industry in New York city’s concrete jungle, and with little open land free agriculturalists and beekeepers have taken to the rooftops to pursue their passion.

Andrew Cote uses the emergency fire ladder to climb up to the roof of his East Village building, where he tends to 250 bee hives.

Cote, a professor of Japanese literature, doubles up as president of the New York City Beekeepers Association, and is happy that the city authorised beekeeping in mid-March after an 11-year ban.

“The city wants to plant one million trees, and the trees need to be pollinated,” Cote told AFP.

The ban forced beekeepers into hiding, fearing a US$2,000 (RM6,400) fine if caught. Now Cote believes the bees are vital to helping keep the city green.

“Our bees pollinate, and they clean the air. It is a way to connect with nature,” he said.

Bees also produce around 100 pounds of honey per hive per year, he said — honey that he sells at the city’s various farmer’s markets.

Cote said he has received several requests to instal rooftop beehives, and the demand is such that on Sunday he is scheduled to offer a course for aspiring apiculturalists.

On the other side of Manhattan, in the posh Upper East Side, Eli Zabar, owner of the upscale “Vinegar Factory” delicatessen, inspects the crops he is growing on the roof of the old factory bought in 1991.

“I began the green houses 15 years ago,” Zabar told AFP. “I grow heirloom tomatoes, lots of different kinds of lettuce, herbs, basil, rosemary, thyme, raspberries, figs, beets. We use the heat of the bakeries and pastries, we recycle the heat. With the use of the heat we have eliminated our (carbon) footprint.

“You harvest in the morning, you sell in the afternoon, you don’t refrigerate, it tastes better,” said Zabar. “We pick everything ripe and ready to eat. All our products here are organic.”

Depending on the hour of the time of day, Zabar says with a smile, “the green houses smell of bread, brownie or croissant.”

About half of the items Zabar sells in his deli comes from rooftop farms.

From Manhattan to Brooklyn, whether on rooftops, backyards or in any of the city’s 600 community gardens, urban farming is a growing phenomenon.

The movement is helped along by Mayor Michael Bloomberg, who seeks to turn the city into a sustainable development champion. Through “PlaNYC 2030,” a programme he launched on Earth Day 2007, people who instal “green roofs” can get a tax break.

At Randall’s Island, in New York’s East River, the city’s Parks and Recreation Department is currently testing 16 different types of vegetation that could be placed on the roofs of schools, hospitals or other public buildings.

“These are patches of succulent vegetation, like sedum, which protect the roofs, (and) isolate the buildings from the heat because the UV (ultra-violet) sun is not hitting,” said senior project manager John Robilotti.

The rooftop vegetation also helps maintain a steady temperature inside and captures storm water, which would otherwise run off into the street.

“The water that does come out is filtered and kept in tanks, and we use it to water when there is no rain,” Robilotti said.

The roofs “absorb carbon and create oxygen, so we take carbon from the carbon cycle.

“And they attract birds, butterflies, bees. We even saw a red-tailed hawk,” he said. — AFP-RelaxNews


http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/mobile/...ng-in-New-York/

while waiting for cergau announcement, why not go to bookstore and grab a book to read?

http://dinmerican.wordpress.com/2010/05/20...averick-part-1/


as for tauyik, different conditions, different solutions. if you think all the partitions are blocking the birds from entering then u should slowly removed it one by one and see whether it improve your birds count or not.

if your sifu say is not important abt humi n temp, then u should instead of removing the partitions, u should removes your sifu first then only u remove the partitions one by one. look at the bird shits spot on the partition, u might find which part of the partition that u should removed.

again, i am totally new in this buz so treat it as reference or second opinions.

good luck.

Tht is the reason why many good mens stop fighting for ordinary farmers.

I once saw an eagle hovering around our farms trying to attack young birds, and then suddenly the eagle was chased by hundred of swiftlets and runaway empty handed.

Swiftlets with tiny body and tiny brain but still they knew when to unite and fight the enemy and chase them away eventhough they knew that they are no match with the enemy as the enemy is physically stronger and is more powerful than them. But, they Unite and Fight with no fear and Won.

We, swiftlet farmers, physically stronger and with bigger brains still lose to the tiny brain swiftlets.

SHAME ON U !!!

AND YOU ALL DESERVES IT !!!

COME RAP US, WE DON'T RESIST

COME SUCK US, WE DON'T MIND

COME KILL US, WE ARE WEAK

NOt sad at all, why so sad? expected right?.


My suggestion is, brother n sister, choose a place below, no need rush, got enough 100,000 stick/cross around for everyone.







Well, farewell and good luck to all.

how about doing some regular exercise? like climbing ladder up n down for at least 100 times a day, i can provides equipment n venue for u FOR FREE. joke.



擬發臨時執照合法化燕屋
店屋燕屋5年後搬遷
（莎阿南9日訊）配合雪州引燕新指南，州政府擬發出臨時執照給每間燕屋以合法化，惟在店屋經營的燕屋需在5年后搬遷。
燕屋合法化登記期限從6月1日起至9月1日，業者可透過雪蘭莪燕窩商公會協助辦理合法化手續。

當局也建議，6月1日以后設立的新燕屋，須申請取得執照后才能興建燕屋，並鼓勵設在農業地。

州政府昨今兩天舉辦燕屋漂白工作坊，邀請雪州燕窩商公會會長拿督郭洪究、顧問李培南、秘書馬瑞來、理事紀榮光和洪文平出席會議，與官員商討最后階的引燕新指南。

較后，李培南在記者會披露，建議中的指南規定，6月1日前興建的燕屋，需在3個月內登記合法化以獲得執照，在農業地運作的燕屋可得到全年執照。

“設在商業地和稻田的燕屋則取得臨時執照，每6個月更新，申請需得到策劃組、土地局、衛生局、獸醫局、水利灌溉局、農業局和古跡局的支持。”

他說，6月1日后設立的新燕屋，需獲得縣市議會的策劃批准，當局將把批准呈給土地局，以在地契增加“引燕”用途。

他說，除了住宅區和機場10公里範圍的土地，距離神廟、學校和回教堂100公尺的地點亦不能設燕屋。

郭洪究：反對店屋燕屋
5年後需搬限定

雪州燕窩商公會會長郭洪究說，該會不能接納引燕指南提出的數項條件，尤其是現有設在店屋的燕屋被合法化，必須在5年后搬遷。

他說，目前州內約有4000間燕屋，90%設在店屋單位，公會反對搬遷，要求保留在原址。

“州政府鼓勵新燕屋日后設在農業地，無需轉換土地用途，不過屆時現有燕屋必須保留，因為沒有技術可使燕子像家禽般搬遷。”

他說，公會也反對禁止在商業區設燕屋，因為一些郊區的商業單位缺乏經濟用途，同業會根據規定去興建燕屋。

“同時，我們要求州政府取消同業被指濫用建築物和非法引燕，接獲的兩張傳票罰款，業者是因為指南未制定，而非刻意犯規。”

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本會目前有300位會員，歡迎更多同業加入成為會員，壯大公會力量。

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For those who can't read Mandarin ( by the way even bumiputra are lining up to learn Mandarin, why u guys still lack behind?? go to your grandchildrens room and go grab a few kindergarden Mandarin learning books and start learning lah!) that

the selangor govt is going to issue licence to all shopfarms (only to those renovate before 1/6/10)!!! YEAH!!!

and then


the licence is valid for 5 years and after that we all have to move!


and then



all farms not allow at 10km from airport.

100m from housing area, school, temple, mosque not allow to have farms.

all farms in padi field need to renew their licence every six months.



and the selangor bird's nest association said that they don't agree with it.

and they plead (my words only lah) and HOPE that farmers in selangor to register as member to strengthen their position to fight for our rights...by the way, they only have 300 plus members.

so, those interested please contact this no : 016-3225819


and also we are given 3 months starting 1/6/10 to apply the licence to die!

act fast this time.

else we will die NATURALLY instead of Mass Massacre.

Again good luck!

This post has been edited by ChanK: Jun 10 2010, 09:47 AM

Sadly, it is not only selangor but i am afraid this is exactly what the 1GP is trying to do, whitening the whole industry whether it will affect the nation, whether it will affect the ordinary malaysians.

i don't have time to post all the news up here, so, i will gives u only my summary which i wish i am wrong...

Jan this year, Penang state govt gives extension to those farms in georgetown and the officer in penang told the farmers that please don't be happy as when 1GP is out, you all will have to move out. so prepare for the worst - this comment published in newspaper.

March this year, Seremban state govt instruct all farmers in town to register n to issue licence and the licence is also valid for 5 years and all need to move out after that. same deadline was given which start from 1/6/10. again they said that this is to follow the new regulation that federal govt will enforce which is the so called 1GP.

from all this including selangor state govt instruction...they all already read the 1GP and know the federal intention is to whiten the whole industry....only the fools...which is us that are still in the dark all this while.


hope i am wrong though.

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Added on June 10, 2010, 11:54 pmas for black water paint, as long as water paint and not old stock (difficult to see from outside if it is old stock though but u can go to hardware shop that doing good buz then the chances of getting old stock is less) it should not smell bad. it will take abt one day for the paint smell to go away, don't worry it does not affect existing birds.


i wish i can laugh all the way to the bank though...

wonder what i can do after all my farms are demolished by the govt...

already 50 by then, with no income and childrens still young.

and stuck with so many rotten shops that can't do anything else but continue to let it rotten..

Maybe the govt should just whiten the whole industry by burning all the rotten shops later on.

We are facing the worst timing in Malaysia, with depleting crude oil income as our oil wells are drying up n finish within 10 years...we will have no other way except to squeeze the malaysians for money to survive....no wonder Malaysians are migrating in thousands every year..last year alone 400,000 malaysian migrate to other countries and this figure only includes those who registered at embassy so that they can still collect pensions. it is estimated that just last year alone there are over 800,000 malaysians migrated....

while this group of malaysians are wealthy enough to migrate..how about us, ordinary malaysians?...we can only sit here n watch and wait for the tsunami to hit the shore.

while few already sense it is coming but sadly many are still living in the wonderland....


good luck.

This post has been edited by ChanK: Jun 10 2010, 11:54 PM

We need to do more to inform others to fight this war :

Though might not agree by some but still this is the reality : we need helps from these two organisations :

1) 马来西亚中华工商联合会 (The Associated Chinese Chambers of Commerce and Industry of Malaysia )

2) 隆雪华堂 (http://klscah.org.my/)


our bird's nest association is just too young and inexperienced, they need extra helps from these two established organisations to help them to bring this up to the TOP POLITICIANS.


help!.


also, we need our bumi friends here to highlight it to their organisations too.


my advice to Selangor Bird's Nest Association :

- Make copies of the news clip and attached with a membership form and send it out /distribute it to all swiftlet farms in selangor to highlight the seriousness of this matter to them. we cannot rely on newspaper (many will miss out on the news).

thts the only way to pull in more members...

any volunteers to help out?

another good example of who is actually running the show here,

where officers call for meeting and decides on their own what they want to do and by passing their own boss.

thts the reason why.

and selangor bn association kena this time, and their weakness..

till now they cannot get their own farmers suppport to join the association due to few of the key personnels arrogant attitudes...

THey still think that THEY ARE THERE to help us, so you must listen to them as they are more intelligence, more knowledgeble, and more powerful.

but in fact, u are nobody if no one support u.

please be more realistic n grow up and use ur brain a bit.

U need farmers support to SUPPORT YOU so that you can help yourselves to fight for your rights and for others right!.

again this is the same mindset....WHO IS THE BOSS?

hai....

i think ronnie office phone line must be overheated by now...

we cannot work individually, we still need an entity to voice for us.

selangor bn association is the only association in selangor that represent us right now, if they are not the mediator that recognised by the govt to represent us then Which Association is representing us?

i wonder what if farmers all join the

The Associated Chinese Chambers of Commerce and Industry of Malaysia (ACCCIM)

in group and ask them to represent us instead. and we can appoint one farmer to represent us to voice our concerns in their meetings so that they can highlight it to the govt.


will it work?

the selangor bn association is not the one to recommend to the govt to ask farms to move after 5 years, it is the govt officers that recommend it!!!..i think ronnie kena tipu again by the officers....

i wonder malaysia is govern by cowboys is it?

each state each town seach street govern by each tai kow is it? now no one listening to the ruling govt already?

Read through ACCCIM meeting agenda and found that there is one issue that will be discuss by the ACCCIM is about swiftlet keeping licence.

i know that there are quite a few top leaders in ACCCIM and many of their members are established swiftlet keepers, they too have raised their concern in ACCCIM meeting and seeks help from the organisation to negotiate with the govt and to tell them the actual scenario of the impact of whatever decisions make in the industry.

unliked many anti swiftlet group who still think that this industry is mainly RICH buggers that buy properties in town and convert it into farms....but this only consisting of what...1o% of swiftlet keepers group? the remaining 90% are in fact local town residents that unable to feed their family and have to convert their top floor shop to keep swiftlets to earn extra income to feed their childrens!!.


thts the reason why i raised it up here about joining also the ACCCIM so that we can have more organisations to help to highlight to the govt.


about the ronnie guy, for sure he kena tipu!. as he is not invited to the meeting or even been inform to attend the meeting.and when he questioned the officers why this is recommended....for sure..officers who got hidden agenda will push it back to the association and saying that this is recommended by the association themselves!...most of the committee members there totally rely to their farms to survive!. so for sure this is not true!.

by the way, i hoped that they do have minutes of meeting that they can show to others that the recommendation is propose by the officers themselves...else....i think the association sure kena whack kau kau by farmers....

This post has been edited by ChanK: Jun 17 2010, 04:37 PM

the ruling govt is trying to find money to feed the population as our crude oil wells are drying up in next decade.

while we are very good in using nenek moyang money all this while...

when nenek moyang wang habis....where can we find more money to feed the population....or....i am sorry, my mistake.

not population but just civil servants in malaysia.

they need to find enough money to pay all the civil servants salaries...as

we have the highest population vs civil servants in asia..

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Added on June 18, 2010, 4:43 pmi guess someone need to come out and explain to the keepers....before fires spreading everywhere...

thts why...we need neutral leaders in associations just liked keepers, we are neutral as ph7..

u sokong i, i sokong u as long as u did the right thing for the rakyat.

This post has been edited by ChanK: Jun 18 2010, 04:43 PM

ohh..we will in not so far futures RM equal to RMB but it will drop further after that and heading to IND.

I have seen many good civil servants in my life...but most of them in kampung and i mean many years ago.

that time their smiles are so nice and real and nowadays you are not sure if their smiles are from their evil sides or their greedy sides..

they all think that they have golden rice bowl and will feed them for the rest of their life and the govt is not going to do anything to them.

but when the rakyat themselves unable to feed their own family n childrens...sooner or later they will demand the govt to do something or they will do something to take back what belongs to them....

it is not fairytale....

it is the reality.......

so, how much the govt can saves if they retrenched and reduced civil servants ratio to a reasonable rate where in thailand it is 2 n here is 5...double of what the thai civil servants number...so, with estimated 1.2 millions of civil servants in Malaysia, the average salary is around RM25K a year. so, retrenched 600,000 of civil servants will save the govt

15,000,000,000.00 a year.

tht is a big figure right??

and furthermore the retrenched 600,000 workers can then reemploy to work in the private sector and we, Malaysia, will then be

proud enough to tell the world....WE ARE EFFICIENT AND CAPABLE !


nothing personal...just my crazy idea...which might happen sooner or later....

no surprise on what happening as it is already not a secret that the govt there will embark in a huge eco park project to benefit those that they think deserve it the most n hell they will share the wealth with the ordinary citizens.

and if this happen here....damn we have to get ourselves comfortable with a new federal govt. hell its going to be a total mess by then hopefully not liked thailand...but then what can we do besides getting prepare for it.

those lucky migrated politicians n onshore govt officers are sunbathing in foreign beaches and drinking magarita with their girlfriends applying sun blocks to their aging pat pat......how i wish i am in their league!..

damn stupid to be a keeper...should becomes a politician instead...

This post has been edited by ChanK: Jun 21 2010, 11:39 PM

sarawakreport.org


http://www.malaysiakini.com/news/134818Malaysiakini.com/news

淡屬引燕業崛起
文德甲產業搶手
（文德甲21日訊）隨淡屬養燕業的崛起及蓬勃發展，文德甲的產業市場可說是又旺又搶手，而且舊店價格也節節上升，市區近60%的3樓店鋪被改建為燕屋。
據市場了解，目前大部分產業投資者是養燕業者，或準備進軍養燕業的投資者，所以在近年的新建店屋設計一般是3層樓或以上，目的迎合市場需求。

當地產業價格上升的其中因素也是基于“物以稀為貴”，因為市區建築物已非常密集，所剩的發展空地有限，以致舊店、新店或準備興建的工程都很搶手。

產業市場人士指出，市區的店鋪售價在近10年上升至少50%，原因是建築材料價格飆漲外，也因市區的店鋪發展供不求應，養燕業也是帶動產業市場的其中因素。

“店鋪價格基于地點而定，目前位于熱鬧街道的3層樓店屋價格介于85萬令吉或以上，比早前30多至40萬令吉差距明顯，有的舊店還叫價100多萬令吉。”

位于熱門區的店鋪租金也相當昂貴，樓下租金可達到5000至6000令吉，以往的租金是2000至3000令吉，目前2樓的租金價格大約是800至1000令吉。

店鋪改建燕屋

“至于3樓的店鋪，大部分業者都不出租，而自家作為投資養燕業之用，目前文德甲市區的3樓店鋪有60%已被改建為燕屋，相信燕屋數量會繼續增加。”

由于市區範圍的發展空地有限，所以不少的店屋發展計劃紛紛朝向寶林園及文德甲通往淡馬魯路一帶，目前有不少大型的發展工程已如或如荼展開。

在房屋業方面，買屋者的比例比買店者稍微低，產業市場人士認為是文德甲的房屋業已漸漸飽和，不過靠近市區範圍的地點還是很搶手，而且價格也是偏高。


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Over 60% of shoplots in Mentakab has been converted into swiftlet sanctuary and more will follow suit as the local economy is so bad that ordinary malaysians have no other means to earn a living to feed their childrens.

and thks to these keepers, the property market there are seeing a boom with rental peaking and even old shoplots are now selling at 1 million a unit.


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