First of all there is no delay in the Avante. Secondly, even if there was a delay its nothing to do with current AVante sales. Sales of Korean cars arent good in Malaysia mainly because of the after sales service. If they can improve that, then they will become competitive again.

The Sonata isnt doing well cuz they priced it too close to the Camry. If it had been about 10K cheaper, its sales will improve.

I second that. The Sonata is not priced competitively to break into the D segment which is almost monopoly by Accord and Camry.
If they price the 1.8 Avante 10k cheaper than the 1.8 Civic, which one most people here will buy, very obvious is it.

The new Hyundai Avante looks absolutely gorgeous! Yeowa, get one!

Seems like you guys not really understand how is the automotive market going, especially in Malaysia. Hyundai will not rushing to bring in the Avante just because of gorgeous look and a lot of people give good comments. They have to think how they can clear all the current Avante. And what is the price level the new Avante should be priced? RM100K, 90K, 80K??? If in between RM100K, Hyundai know they can't beat the Altis, Civic and Sylphy, don't even think about the Proton Inspira. If RM90K, it will be eating the Kia Forte current market which doesn't make any sense for Hyundai to do this, they better leave it that way as long as Kia Forte can get good sales. RM80K, no way, in this price range, they hardly can make profit out there so they will think twice whether really need to "hard sell" the Avante? And one more thing is the commitment for the Hyundai Korea, if Sime Darby really decide to launch the Avante, the Korean sure will need Sime Darby to commit certain quantity, which Sime Darby have to think twice.

Some of us are aware of the market conditions. I for one surely do. The pricing will surely be within the 90-95K range for the 1.8L. Yes it will be in direct competition with the Forte but then again, the Forte is also due for a facelift next year with a 6 speed gearbox and a price increase of about RM 6K. The Forte does not have a 1.8L and i believe this was planned so as to not compete with the Avante.

Besides, Hyundai has always been known to price their cars too high thus putting them too close to Toyota & Honda and killing their sales in the process. They did the same with the current Sonata and the poor sales are proof. Hope they dont repeat the same mistake with the Avante.

I think their biggest competition will actually come from the 2011 Honda Civic. Thus it would be in their best interest to delay the Avante launch till after the Civic's arrival to determine final pricing.

Pricing the Avante cheaper by 10K to a Honda Civic still will not save it from doom. To compete with Toyota and Honda, they would need to price at least about 15-20K cheaper. The Sonata was about 9K cheaper than the Camry but it did not eat into the Camry sales at all. In fact, Toyota started selling more Camry's after the launch of the Sonata thanks to their effective promos.

Even 20k cheaper I would think twice. According to Paultan report, the new Avante has only 14.2km/L on the highway. That is very poor efficiency for a new car.

The current Civic 1.8 is 115k and if the 1.8 Avante is price 20k lower it will be 95k which will be just nice. But having said that, the Sonata which is competing against the Accord is less than 10k cheaper in the 2.0l segment which makes me thing that the Avante is very likely to be just above 100k. We can hope only that Sime pricing structure will change by the time they launch Avante next year.

This post has been edited by sochaiapk: Dec 15 2010, 11:20 AM

How about Myvi? My Myvi gets about 11.6km/L on city driving. That's why to me, the fuel consumption is better than my Myvi.

I think there is a mistake on the conversion from mpg to kml.
The US Elantra (Avante) claim can achieve 29mpg(city) and 40mpg(highway).

29mpg is 12.33kml or 8.11l/100km (quite good)

40mpg is 17.01kml or 5.88l/100km (impressive)

50mpg is 21.26kml or 4.7l/100km (marvellous)

This dude doesn't know what he's talking about

Yes, I agree what you said about the Civic, but how about the Inspira?

hmmm...not sure you guys read from paultan's blog about the dual clutch transmission changes in the future for Hyundai-KIA from the 6-speeder to the 7-speeder in the future for their 2011 cars.

while Nissan has proved from Sylphy some level of fuel efficiency in 2-litre engines using X-CVT, you can opt to believe that if Hyundai-KIA goes with this to ix35 (tucson) and i45 (sonata), they might soon move it to the new Elantra family as well.

pros and cons about this...but I still hope ,DLT in the future rather than CVT...partially of it's maintenance-free attribute.

meanwhile, I've known from few new ix35 and i45 owners that the car still isn't very fuel efficient regardless of it's 6-speed DLT.

For me, now I'm waiting for the electric car, to save our planet and save fuel and money, electric car is the only way! Combustion engine, no matter how, it won't save you much fuel due the power lost inside the engine and also the transmission!

Save fuel, yes because electric car use electric only.
Save money, i don't think so because we don't know how much it will be selling here and electricity is not necessarily cheaper than petrol.
Save planet, there are many ways we can do that and not necessarily by using electric car only.

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Added on December 15, 2010, 12:58 pm Inspira is value for money but not many have received the car so far and have to wait if any QC problem surface in the next 1 year or so.
After that if the car is still in good demand,won't be surprised if the price will go up a few thousand and make it less competitve. There is pros and cons of buying the first batch.

This post has been edited by sochaiapk: Dec 15 2010, 12:58 PM

I think last month the TG magazine did calculate the electricity vs Petrol price, and the electricity is way lower than petrol by a quite large margin. So I think EV is good to our planet earth (less pollution). And for the FCV, I don't think this technology is suitable, as like last time Honda keep pushing the FCV with a lot of advertisements and found those celebrities to drive the FCV, until Nissan announced the Leaf, then most of the major car manufaturers starting to talk about EV. FCV is just too dangerous.

The EV won't save our planet or really being green for the next 5-10 years, reason is most of the power plants in Malaysia are using fossil fuels to generate electricity. this kind of electricity does not come from renewable energy (sustainable energy)

also, plug_in version EV doesn't really energy efficient, because you need the electricity transmission via power grid to charge your battery, and the transmission of electricity also incur energy lost quite a lot.

The better version of EV should be the one equip with fuel cell battery, doesn't need to use power grid to charge your car. just need to refill the fossil fuels to convert to electricity.

14.2km/L is very poor fuel consumption? Are u sure u know what it means?

For instance, a Toyota Vios has a 42L fuel tank. So with a fuel consumption of 14.2km/L, a full tank can easily take the Vios almost 600km. And u say this is very poor? If that is considered very poor then a good rating would be about 20km/L giving a total full tank mileage of 840km. This means that a full tank on a Vios can take you from Singapore to Haadyai???

This post has been edited by cybermaster98: Dec 15 2010, 02:49 PM

like spanker said earlier, that dude has absolutely no idea what he's talking about

the design of the new avante is very appealing

not many car can do better than 12km/liter in CITY driving.

2 liter car if can get 10km/liter in city, is damn good. usually is 7km-8km

if you buy rm100k car, and still look at FC, then, better save the money. Myvi only rm50k. you can keep the RM50k and pump fuel for the rest of your life

imho.

even 2 liter civic is not doing well in city driving. but then, if one can afford rm130k, one wouldnt care too much about FC anyway.