Not saying you will have nice looking abs. I said it's visible compare to those that has flat tummy.
Not all fat stored in the tummy. Try look at powerlifters.
For those wanting 6 packs, SEE THIS
For those wanting 6 packs, SEE THIS
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Jan 20 2015, 04:59 PM
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Not saying you will have nice looking abs. I said it's visible compare to those that has flat tummy.
Not all fat stored in the tummy. Try look at powerlifters. |
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Jan 20 2015, 05:28 PM
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Jan 21 2015, 11:39 AM
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QUOTE(Amedion @ Jan 20 2015, 04:59 PM) Not saying you will have nice looking abs. I said it's visible compare to those that has flat tummy. Agreed with some powerlifters. However, if the abs is visible without flexing, overall BF certainly below 20% Not all fat stored in the tummy. Try look at powerlifters. |
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Jan 21 2015, 04:09 PM
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Oh okay. Maybe I'm a little over with the percentage part.
What i'm trying to say to newbies is that the abs is also muscle. You have to build them in order to get 6-packs. Not by just losing fats. » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « VS » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « |
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Jan 27 2015, 09:52 PM
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Lol for 2 and half years lifting i realized that you need to build your abs besides having a proper diet. I was really noob lol and i know long time ago that someone says you need to diet down to low bodyfat in order to see your abs.
That's like saying your calf already have muscles lmao. Why am i such noob lol. I'd rarely do abs during my 2 and half years of lifting. |
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Mar 9 2015, 10:31 PM
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QUOTE(degraw1993 @ Jan 27 2015, 09:52 PM) Lol for 2 and half years lifting i realized that you need to build your abs besides having a proper diet. I was really noob lol and i know long time ago that someone says you need to diet down to low bodyfat in order to see your abs. different approach to exerciseThat's like saying your calf already have muscles lmao. Why am i such noob lol. I'd rarely do abs during my 2 and half years of lifting. if you do isolation exercise routine and not doing abs, thats what happen, no abs muscle development. while people who do compound exercises but also didnt do abs exercise, got abs, cuz compound movement train your whole body. pretty sure fat powelifter got huge abs visible if they lower down their BF% |
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Mar 9 2015, 11:58 PM
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QUOTE(H3lpM3 @ Mar 9 2015, 10:31 PM) different approach to exercise Bruh i do compound movements and i can see the abs but not too define. So you have to work them.if you do isolation exercise routine and not doing abs, thats what happen, no abs muscle development. while people who do compound exercises but also didnt do abs exercise, got abs, cuz compound movement train your whole body. pretty sure fat powelifter got huge abs visible if they lower down their BF% I don't understand what r u trying to say. How about fix ur grammar first. This post has been edited by degraw1993: Mar 10 2015, 12:00 AM |
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Mar 10 2015, 12:05 AM
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Just want to share with you guys
![]() QUOTE Left: 208lbs. April 7, 2014 Right: 185lbs. September 21, 2014 Since I am powerlifter, I didn't want to lose weight too rapidly and lose strength. So, I went on a slow, gradual cut. 1 pound a week. 5 months later I lost 23 pounds and stayed the same strength. Too many people defeat themselves by looking at goals as this huge unsurmountable task. Instead just focus on one day at a time and you will succeed at whatever you set out to achieve. #barbellbrigade #dominatehumbly 💀barbellbrigade.com💀 SOS: https://instagram.com/p/tOX7fKEaK8 |
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Mar 10 2015, 12:20 AM
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Mar 14 2015, 10:13 AM
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QUOTE(Miracles @ Mar 10 2015, 12:05 AM) sorry to ask, does this mean he took 5 months from the left pic to become like in the right pic? |
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Mar 14 2015, 11:51 AM
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QUOTE(alpha33 @ Mar 14 2015, 10:13 AM) Yes, although SOME might achieve this type of result in shorter period, but their strength will drop eventually. Bart kwan mentioned that he is a powerlifter, so maintaining strength is important for him and he try to cut down as slow as possible without compensating his strength. |
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Mar 14 2015, 04:17 PM
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QUOTE(alpha33 @ Mar 14 2015, 10:13 AM) QUOTE(-ccy- @ Mar 14 2015, 11:51 AM) Yes, although SOME might achieve this type of result in shorter period, but their strength will drop eventually. Bart kwan mentioned that he is a powerlifter, so maintaining strength is important for him and he try to cut down as slow as possible without compensating his strength. Yeap exactly. He mentioned this in his vlog. I'll post it when I get home. |
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Mar 14 2015, 05:11 PM
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QUOTE(-ccy- @ Mar 14 2015, 11:51 AM) Yes, although SOME might achieve this type of result in shorter period, but their strength will drop eventually. Bart kwan mentioned that he is a powerlifter, so maintaining strength is important for him and he try to cut down as slow as possible without compensating his strength. QUOTE(Miracles @ Mar 14 2015, 04:17 PM) thanks!looking forward to it. meanwhile, i am still struggling trying to build my strength and burn my fat. |
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Mar 15 2015, 12:03 AM
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QUOTE(alpha33 @ Mar 14 2015, 05:11 PM) thanks! Video by Omar Isuf ft. Bart Kwanlooking forward to it. meanwhile, i am still struggling trying to build my strength and burn my fat. » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Video by Bart Kwan (himself) » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Keep this in mind. Slow n' steady wins the race. Last year, I cut too fast with brodiet. Lost all my gains. Regret so much. This year, I'm doing it slowly. No worries man. It just takes time. This post has been edited by Miracles: Mar 15 2015, 12:04 AM |
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Mar 15 2015, 12:27 AM
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QUOTE(Miracles @ Mar 15 2015, 12:03 AM) Keep this in mind. Slow n' steady wins the race. Last year, I cut too fast with brodiet. Lost all my gains. Regret so much. This year, I'm doing it slowly. No worries man. It just takes time. This post has been edited by pj_guitarist: Mar 15 2015, 12:28 AM |
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Mar 15 2015, 12:47 AM
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QUOTE(alpha33 @ Mar 14 2015, 05:11 PM) thanks! Those goals are exactly on opposite path. looking forward to it. meanwhile, i am still struggling trying to build my strength and burn my fat. You need to have calorie deficit to lose fat. You need to have calorie surplus to gain strength (by adding more muscles). |
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Mar 19 2015, 02:05 PM
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i think i lose fat too fast. because now no matter how hard ie at and train only my top 2 packs visible. the 3rd to 6th hidden by either fats or excess skin
im going mad right now |
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Mar 19 2015, 02:35 PM
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QUOTE(christ14 @ Mar 19 2015, 02:05 PM) i think i lose fat too fast. because now no matter how hard ie at and train only my top 2 packs visible. the 3rd to 6th hidden by either fats or excess skin If you lose fat too fast, shouldn't you be able to show the 3rd and 6th packs? Or you actually don't have the 3rd to 6th packs on your body.im going mad right now |
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Mar 19 2015, 03:34 PM
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QUOTE(alien9 @ Mar 19 2015, 02:35 PM) If you lose fat too fast, shouldn't you be able to show the 3rd and 6th packs? Or you actually don't have the 3rd to 6th packs on your body. its as hard as the first 2 somehow i just cant seem to show it because i still have this wobbly part covering it.. im guessing its the skin of my ex beer belly or its the fats but im eating clean already this is just so frustrating.. just like the pics posted above.. used to have a big beer belly. now im at the 2nd stage but just top 2 visible or im just not training enough |
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Mar 19 2015, 03:37 PM
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QUOTE(christ14 @ Mar 19 2015, 03:34 PM) its as hard as the first 2 somehow i just cant seem to show it Care to share your body progress? Censored the face if you are shy.because i still have this wobbly part covering it.. im guessing its the skin of my ex beer belly or its the fats but im eating clean already this is just so frustrating.. just like the pics posted above.. used to have a big beer belly. now im at the 2nd stage but just top 2 visible or im just not training enough |
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