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English Clubs Liverpool Football Club- The Kop Talks 2010, Hodgson in the house!

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post Apr 30 2010, 11:48 AM

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QUOTE(reiben05 @ Apr 30 2010, 11:41 AM)
maybe putting agger on left back is soo much better defensively
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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Apr 30 2010, 11:37 AM)
I don't remember managers apologize publicly for not delivering silverware.
I don't remember managers apologize publicly for signing players that turn out to be flop.
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So when things go south it is ok to blame the board and/or humiliate your players?
I am firmly in the "If you have nothing good to say, don't say anything." camp.

Some support Liverpool not for trophies (otherwise Liverpool won't have many supporters left to begin with), I personally like the camaraderie between the players, manager and fans. Sure, you can call me an old fashioned idealist, but that was exactly what made me a Liverpool supporter in the first place. The fans have been as great as ever, sadly with the Yanks and Rafa around things aren't exactly going in the right direction, in my opinion anyways.
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QUOTE(melt @ Apr 30 2010, 11:47 AM)
Poor marking  hmm.gif  (Maybe for a few minutes). Most of the time Reyes were nowhere to be seen as he was well marked before the goal.

Most of you guys think Glen didnt play well because he was not really helping on the attacking side like he used to but the truth is he is playing quite well on the defensive side.
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His header was disappointing.His marking was poor.He might be tired but the reason of us conceding is still because of him.
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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Apr 30 2010, 11:42 AM)
Liverpool did not sign Glen Johnson out of your WISHLIST.
It is the decision of Rafa to sign Glen.
We all know Glenny is attacking type of player. So, complain when he defends like sissy? No complains when he scores us goals?
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You really do take things literally don't you?

When he says "we" signed Johnson, he meant Rafa/the club.

On the issue of defenders, let's get this straight. A defenders primary task is to what? Precisely. I am personally quite fond of Johnson but he does need to work on his defending.
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post Apr 30 2010, 12:01 PM

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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Apr 30 2010, 11:50 AM)
You really do take things literally don't you?

When he says "we" signed Johnson, he meant Rafa/the club.

On the issue of defenders, let's get this straight. A defenders primary task is to what? Precisely. I am personally quite fond of Johnson but he does need to work on his defending.
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This is because we take it literally when we comment on the formation, starting lineup, signings of Rafa.
In fact, none of us know MORE than Rafa.
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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Apr 30 2010, 11:50 AM)
You really do take things literally don't you?

When he says "we" signed Johnson, he meant Rafa/the club.

On the issue of defenders, let's get this straight. A defenders primary task is to what? Precisely. I am personally quite fond of Johnson but he does need to work on his defending.
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laugh.gif then it'd be better for Rafa to deploy Glen on the right wing.

Anyway, I personally think that one of the problem is that either we have minimum quality player on a position or too many quality players on the same position which limits their potential and appearance.
Just my personal view, in which this problem really sucks. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Apr 30 2010, 12:01 PM)
This is because we take it literally when we comment on the formation, starting lineup, signings of Rafa.


What?

QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Apr 30 2010, 12:01 PM)
In fact, none of us know MORE than Rafa.
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Ok end of discussion then, unless we all agree with Rafa since we're all so ignorant. How about trying to refute points for once instead of brushing them aside?
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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Apr 30 2010, 12:01 PM)
This is because we take it literally when we comment on the formation, starting lineup, signings of Rafa.
In fact, none of us know MORE than Rafa.
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Although that is undoubtedly true (in the football sense at least), would it also imply that we should well be passive supporters - watching footie would be something like watching a movie, we sit back and cheer the heroes, boo the baddies and then we all go back home for say... dinner?
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i think rafa should have known better when he decided to sign certain players.

so when he signs Glenny, he knows he will have an attacking fullback, that will suit his vision about how he will deploy liverpool's tactics

which means he should be aware we might suffer defensively at times

his tactic is clear - on the flanks, the 'winger' and the attacking fullback will help to cover each other. a combo that works well when we have kuyt on the flank. he tracks and runs. and this season we rarely have problem with that side because wa have the awesome kuyt

i have not watched last night's match to comment. sad that our season now is all on securing europa

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With regards to this weekend's game against Chelsea, this I feel will be a serious blow to our confidence. It was our only chance for silverware and although we do have a slim chance to finish 4th, the lads know that it is unlikely and may feel like we've nothing left to play for. I for one feel pretty deflated and can't even begin to imagine how the lads must feel.

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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Apr 30 2010, 11:50 AM)
You really do take things literally don't you?

When he says "we" signed Johnson, he meant Rafa/the club.

On the issue of defenders, let's get this straight. A defenders primary task is to what? Precisely. I am personally quite fond of Johnson but he does need to work on his defending.
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Well, said. smile.gif
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I nearly kicked my car seat when the radio announcer said that Liverpool LOST 2-1 and were kicked out of the Europa League. He also mentioned that Fulham has a REAL GOOD CHANCE to qualify for the final after their victory.

Radio announcers should shut UP.

Back to the game : I was disappointed to see Gerrard sit back, dazzled and looking lost after Forlan got the all so important goal. He should have at least urged his team on, something that Aquilani was doing all night long. I know that goal was a massive blow to us, but as a captain myself.. I think Gerrard should have urged the players and fans on like he'd usually do.

On the brighter note, I couldn't help but smile to myself about Aquilani's performance. Speedy, good touches, awesome 1-touch football, good switch passes, nice through balls, and ran at defenders a lot. Really impressive. Bet all those critiques are sucking their own balls right now. smile.gif smile.gif

Really hope we beat the shit out of Chelsea. I really do.
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QUOTE(Petre @ Apr 30 2010, 12:14 PM)
i think rafa should have known better when he decided to sign certain players.

so when he signs Glenny, he knows he will have an attacking fullback, that will suit his vision about how he will deploy liverpool's tactics

which means he should be aware we might suffer defensively at times

his tactic is clear - on the flanks, the 'winger' and the attacking fullback will help to cover each other. a combo that works well when we have kuyt on the flank. he tracks and runs. and this season we rarely have problem with that side because wa have the awesome kuyt

i have not watched last night's match to comment. sad that our season now is all on securing europa

YNWA
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Well any fullback will definitely struggle when played in the other flank. And it wasn't as if he was having a nightmare last night. He was just quiet and misplacing passes. I found it quite surprising that Atleti kept targeting the left flank where Masch did a really good job - save for allowing Forlan free - where they could have made Johnson sweat.

I've said it before, our priority this summer should be a LB and a defensive RB cover (Even better if this player can play on both sides, ala Arbeloa). Then we start talking about Torres backup. Last night showed how thin our squad is, our bench was a joke.

Anyway when we conceded you somehow knew that we weren't gonna score. At a time where you should be pushing forward and take a chance, we weren't threatening at all. Credits to Atleti's organized defense but you have to wonder, after Benny scored why didn't we do the same? Weren't we once known for defending leads? Once again, we were punished after taking the lead. Story of our season.

YNWA.
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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Apr 30 2010, 11:50 AM)
You really do take things literally don't you?

When he says "we" signed Johnson, he meant Rafa/the club.

On the issue of defenders, let's get this straight. A defenders primary task is to what? Precisely. I am personally quite fond of Johnson but he does need to work on his defending.
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Agreed. I at times feel that Johnson takes stuff a little too easy. He doesn't have the urgency of Carragher, Agger etc. But he's one composed player. Just has to keep his head in the game...
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QUOTE(Playboy21 @ Apr 30 2010, 01:56 PM)
On the brighter note, I couldn't help but smile to myself about Aquilani's performance. Speedy, good touches, awesome 1-touch football, good switch passes, nice through balls, and ran at defenders a lot. Really impressive. Bet all those critiques are sucking their own balls right now. smile.gif smile.gif

Really hope we beat the shit out of Chelsea. I really do.
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I don't think he has realized his potential fully, at the moment it's almost 50-50 for him. One moment he makes a brilliant pass the other he gives away the ball cheaply. Probably due to rust, who knows.

One thing I realized last night was that Gerrard seems to play better in the PL recently, could it be the presence of Maxi? If you think about it, a lot of Maxi's moves involves Gerrard charging into the box. He's brilliant in linking up with players, I think that's what sorely missed last night.

Once again, my wish all season is to see what a team of Benny, Aqua, Maxi and Gerrard could do. Never mind if it's Kuyt or N'gog leading the line. Can we see that this Sunday, Rafa?
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It has truly been a wretched and rotten season..words really cannot describe how it feels, I cannot imagine how the players will feel. ominous signs for this weekend with Chelsea coming up.
Tough times pull us together. lets see whats in store for this weekend
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its good tat We din get through to play the Final wif Fulham

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if not, rafa will still helm the team next season and we wont get to buy quality players and play wif his shitty tactics tat dun suit EPL

it would be better if we lose to Chelsea this weekend and tat would be the FINAL nail into his "coffin" at anfield

way to go Rafa...................
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QUOTE(rushmode @ Apr 30 2010, 11:24 AM)
people always said manager's success were measured by the cups he won. i cant totally agree with that because there were much more aspect to judge the successfulness of a manager.
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Yes and No.

But but, this whole season along, Liv performance is not that good along. If based on away match peformance, then it is a bottom half team record.
I and most supporters have no problem with Liv can't win a single competition or even can't get 4th place. But what we want to see is the team performance which should be much much better what currently show.

The Europa cup was loss at the first leg when Liv can't score an away goal.

Btw, Fulham played with more spirit and determination which is seriously lacking for Liv.
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QUOTE(digilife @ Apr 30 2010, 03:01 PM)
its good tat We din get through to play the Final wif Fulham

think carefully icon_idea.gif

if not, rafa will still helm the team next season and we wont get to buy quality players and play wif his shitty tactics tat dun suit EPL

it would be better if we lose to Chelsea this weekend and tat would be the FINAL nail into his "coffin" at anfield

way to go Rafa...................
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WTH???!!!...r u sure u support liverpool fc arrr ??? doh.gif shakehead.gif

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