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anfieldude
post Feb 19 2011, 01:20 PM

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I've an idea actually after thinking abt it more.

Most people are only interested in the bottom line and most don't have the time to weed thru tons of technical info and just want the jist. This is normally how "top management" likes it. smile.gif

So in the future, I will post the bottom line 1st and the technical explanation in a spoiler, so for those who want further insight, u can open the spoiler, for those not interested u could just read the bottom line.

I think that way is the best to cater for the masses.


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post Feb 19 2011, 01:21 PM

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QUOTE(Bishop @ Feb 19 2011, 12:42 AM)
Bro please continue to educate us. I know sometimes it is difficult as it seems that no one is listening but some of us are and we do appreciate your input. (I should know, I used to be a lecturer at some local colleges  rclxub.gif )

please continue to educate us noobs.  thumbup.gif  Some of us are listening and if we haven't said it - THANK YOU!

P.S. I would get you to calibrate my plasma but I don't have one yet. Do you do projectors? Also how much you charge for calibration. Also you go to east Malaysia to do calibrations?  whistling.gif
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Yes I do. Actually projectors are more challenging to calibrate 9 times out of 10! U can PM me and we can discuss further.
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post Feb 19 2011, 02:16 PM

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The new gen Pannys seem to have a full 3D CMS! So more accurate calibration. And as Bishop said, single sheet of glass (it was already there on the V series onwards in the last gen)

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The higher end ones have backlit remotes as well..

It seems like they are continuing to improve!


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post Feb 19 2011, 02:37 PM

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The upcoming VT30 has automatic ISF calibration feature as well. See here. I wonder how accurate will it be.
Don't think it'll be as accurate as our bro anfieldude pro calibration. tongue.gif

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post Feb 19 2011, 03:05 PM

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probably our beloved AD didn't realise he has many fans in here at lowyat forum . thanks for all your post which to many ,are very informative, insightful and even educational
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post Feb 19 2011, 03:12 PM

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QUOTE(anfieldude @ Feb 19 2011, 01:20 PM)
I've an idea actually after thinking abt it more.

Most people are only interested in the bottom line and most don't have the time to weed thru tons of technical info and just want the jist. This is normally how "top management" likes it.  smile.gif

So in the future, I will post the bottom line 1st and the technical explanation in a spoiler, so for those who want further insight, u can open the spoiler, for those not interested u could just read the bottom line.

I think that way is the best to cater for the masses.
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this is good!! btw bro where r u from?
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post Feb 19 2011, 04:07 PM

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QUOTE(gdee @ Feb 19 2011, 02:37 PM)
The upcoming VT30 has automatic ISF calibration feature as well. See here. I wonder how accurate will it be.
Don't think it'll be as accurate as our bro anfieldude pro calibration.  tongue.gif
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I believe they are working with SpectraCal on the automation.

I use SpectraCal's software called Calman for calibration and am aware of their offering.

I believe automatic calibration helps to get the set closer to standards than no calibration at all, however, there is still stuff that needs human intervention and further fine tuning and finding the pre-settings before starting calibration is important. Some settings like brightness, gamma require interpretative knowledge of the environment that might require a person to decide.

Still, its a step towards the right direction.


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QUOTE(law1777 @ Feb 19 2011, 03:12 PM)
this is good!! btw bro where r u from?
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I'm from Penang

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post Feb 19 2011, 04:48 PM

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QUOTE(anfieldude @ Feb 19 2011, 04:07 PM)

I'm from Penang
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wish u have chance to come to miri sarawak then u can calibrate my tv
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QUOTE(gdee @ Feb 19 2011, 02:37 PM)
The upcoming VT30 has automatic ISF calibration feature as well. See here. I wonder how accurate will it be.
Don't think it'll be as accurate as our bro anfieldude pro calibration.  tongue.gif
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thanks for the heads-up and link.

Not sure if I fully understand what this "new feature" the VT30 offers, but based on this:
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Panasonic VT30 is the first TV with automatic calibration. The system has been developed in cooperation with SpectraCal that supplies the required equipment. To enable the automatic calibration you need a box from SpectraCal hooked up to the Ethernet port on VT30, as well as PC software and a calibration probe. The kit costs 600 Euro.
it doesnt sound radically different from the current practice of getting your own colorimeter kit and running it through a calibration software.

and at 600 euro, there are much more affordable solutions out there in the market. so can't really see what's so "special" about this new VT30 feature.

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QUOTE(terranova @ Feb 19 2011, 05:12 PM)
it doesnt sound radically different from the current practice of getting your own colorimeter kit and running it through a calibration software.

and at 600 euro, there are much more affordable solutions out there in the market. so can't really see what's so "special" about this new VT30 feature.
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I suppose the VT30 will auto-set the brightness/contrast/color saturations and isf settings based on the readings. That's the only thing that is automatic.
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post Feb 19 2011, 09:40 PM

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QUOTE(terranova @ Feb 19 2011, 05:12 PM)
thanks for the heads-up and link.

Not sure if I fully understand what this "new feature" the VT30 offers, but based on this:
it doesnt sound radically different from the current practice of getting your own colorimeter kit and running it through a calibration software.

and at 600 euro, there are much more affordable solutions out there in the market. so can't really see what's so "special" about this new VT30 feature.
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No its not, but its a feather in the cap for the guys at Spectracal. They have been very innovative in pushing calibration to the masses. This year many other displays will also come with that capability, including the JVC projectors.

But think about it, for those who buy the state of the art display they owe it to themselves to squeeze push the display to its capabilities. This educates them that there are solutions out there if u care to look. At the very least, they will know that if they do not want to spend the money they can actually hire someone to bring the best out of the display.
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post Feb 20 2011, 12:10 PM

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may i know why those company dont want to calibrate their tv to the best only sell to market?
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post Feb 20 2011, 03:23 PM

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QUOTE(law1777 @ Feb 20 2011, 12:10 PM)
may i know why those company dont want to calibrate their tv to the best only sell to market?
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post Feb 20 2011, 03:34 PM

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oh i get what u mean already. our very own environment. day light, night time or watching distances. got it
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post Feb 20 2011, 07:57 PM

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Sifus,

Need your advice on this. Nearly 200 hrs now, still on low settings, 30+. Like the picture quality when viewing History, AXN etc. Noted that when on AEC the Taiwanese studio shows, the picture quality isn't as good, rather pale. So what is OK for one channel isn't OK for another channel. How can I overcome this ? Thanks.

Will doing the calibration resolve this ?
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post Feb 21 2011, 10:09 AM

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Thx for all the information from AD.
Been following this topic since bought my 1st plasma. Now is my 2nd plasma. Love the plasma coz PQ.
May i know AD how much for u to calibrate?
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post Feb 21 2011, 10:23 AM

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QUOTE(plumberly @ Feb 20 2011, 07:57 PM)
Sifus,

Need your advice on this. Nearly 200 hrs now, still on low settings, 30+. Like the picture quality when viewing History, AXN etc. Noted that when on AEC the Taiwanese studio shows, the picture quality isn't as good, rather pale. So what is OK for one channel isn't OK for another channel. How can I overcome this ? Thanks.

Will doing the calibration resolve this ?
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I doubt it can. The problem is mostly in the source. Post calibration HBO HD and Star Movies HD channels looks spot on. The rest are almost ok, except for some shows. Live football is also different, most of the time EPL will look different compared to La Liga. So its the source. What u can hope to have after calibration is calibrate to standards and hope for the best. In my opinion, it works most of the times.

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post Feb 21 2011, 10:24 AM

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QUOTE(nicholas1007 @ Feb 21 2011, 10:09 AM)
Thx for all the information from AD.
Been following this topic since bought my 1st plasma. Now is my 2nd plasma. Love the plasma coz PQ.
May i know AD how much for u to calibrate?
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PM me with ur config and we can discuss....
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post Feb 21 2011, 11:01 AM

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A quick question here.

Does plasma support 4:3 tv program? what I worry that is when converting 4:3 into widescreen (full screen) and it make the screen stretched ( people face looks like hamburger style). Even though it do maintain properly, but i don wan it to be viewed by showing two black bars on left/right side. (Burn-in effect). Can anyone share ur experiences?
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QUOTE(CuteSniper22 @ Feb 21 2011, 11:01 AM)
A quick question here.

Does plasma support 4:3 tv program? what I worry that is when converting 4:3 into widescreen (full screen) and it make the screen stretched ( people face looks like hamburger style). Even though it do maintain properly, but i don wan it to be viewed by showing two black bars on left/right side. (Burn-in effect). Can anyone share ur experiences?
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I think all HDTVs allow you to change the Aspect Ratio. So, you can manually select the prebuilt AR to suit the contents.

However, if you don't want the 2 black bars on the left and right side, I think it's impossible unless you zoom in quite a bit. Zooming in will create 2 problems: (1) a very soft image (blur and pixelated) and (2) you lose quite a bit of the image at the sides (possibly chopping off heads and legs and subtitles).

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