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 Panasonic Viera TV Fan Club V.1, Plasma, LCD & LED models.

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post Jun 16 2010, 02:43 PM

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QUOTE(idoblu @ Jun 16 2010, 12:13 PM)
What logic is that? You mean if people complain about rising black levels or poor speakers means we can no longer buy Panasonic altogether?
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I also cannot understand the logic.


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QUOTE(low98944 @ Jun 16 2010, 10:40 AM)
Still can use public transportation or feet.  laugh.gif
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why don't you use your feet and walk from Shah Alam (Bukit Jelutong) to KL daily. got no bus here btw.

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post Jun 16 2010, 03:47 PM

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I think its good to complain, but it would not make any difference in this case. Its not loud enough for panny to notice. Unless a mass complain like those complain regarding Unifi bandwidth cap, tweet and retweet from hundreds individual and net savvy user was enough for TM to retract and hold their policies.

Even if some of panny people reading this thread, it's like 'masuk telinga kanan keluar telinga kiri'.
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post Jun 16 2010, 08:12 PM

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QUOTE(plumberly @ Jun 15 2010, 11:03 PM)
Tried 2 shops in Bintulu for my 50V20 but one towkay came back stating no stock is available AND a new model will be released in July ! What new model is that ? Z ?

Getting frustrated with my intended purchase, none is available here. Maybe I should listen to my home minister. Wait till FIFA is over, they will come out with some sales promotional packages (free gifts etc) and stock should be more readily available then.
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How much the lowest price you're being offered? biggrin.gif
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post Jun 16 2010, 09:24 PM

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QUOTE(ameenskywalker @ Jun 16 2010, 03:47 PM)
I think its good to complain, but it would not make any difference in this case. Its not loud enough for panny to notice. Unless a mass complain like those complain regarding Unifi bandwidth cap, tweet and retweet from hundreds individual and net savvy user was enough for TM to retract and hold their policies.

Even if some of panny people reading this thread, it's like 'masuk telinga kanan keluar telinga kiri'.
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I think one of the main reason why Europe TV and AV versions are so full of features/many models is because of the many websites such as AVSForum/flatpanelshd evaluating and recommending products. These sites could make or break a product as many people seek information/recommendation from them. That's why the members there have the clout to get Panny to listen.

We don't have similar "special interest/user groups" to feedback and/or to apply customer pressure.
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QUOTE(PoorMan @ Jun 16 2010, 09:24 PM)
I think one of the main reason why Europe TV and AV versions are so full of features/many models is because of the many websites such as AVSForum/flatpanelshd evaluating and recommending products. These sites could make or break a product as many people seek information/recommendation from them. That's why the members there have the clout to get Panny to listen.

We don't have similar "special interest/user groups" to feedback and/or to apply customer pressure.
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Very true.

The problem in Msia is that we don't have local reviews by local AV magazines or websites. Even got also, it cannot be trusted as, one or two journalist are "bought" to write excellent reviews on the product.
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post Jun 16 2010, 11:18 PM

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QUOTE(PoorMan @ Jun 16 2010, 09:24 PM)
I think one of the main reason why Europe TV and AV versions are so full of features/many models is because of the many websites such as AVSForum/flatpanelshd evaluating and recommending products. These sites could make or break a product as many people seek information/recommendation from them. That's why the members there have the clout to get Panny to listen.

We don't have similar "special interest/user groups" to feedback and/or to apply customer pressure.
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Here people say don't complain! If complain don't buy! Want to buy don't complain!
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post Jun 16 2010, 11:54 PM

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QUOTE(idoblu @ Jun 16 2010, 11:18 PM)
Here people say don't complain! If complain don't buy! Want to buy don't complain!
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refer to me ?

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post Jun 17 2010, 12:09 AM

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QUOTE(idoblu @ Jun 16 2010, 11:18 PM)
Here people say don't complain! If complain don't buy! Want to buy don't complain!
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People complain about toll but yet they use the toll. I think those who don't like to complain are usually abused and suppressed children when they were young ie always told to shut up and be seen not heard.
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post Jun 17 2010, 03:13 AM

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IMO, to complain is definitely right , thumbup.gif but have to hope the 'voice' goes into the right side of ears & doesnt come out from the other side. nod.gif

In the other hand, to boycott the brand is not totally wrong too.. Let's look at this the other way,boys.. hmm.gif i rmb the time when ppl didnt even wanna mention Philips for a certain period & how Philips grew through the times with its' Pixel Plus. It may not be the best LCD ( to each his own) , but honestly, i was awed by the Pixel Plus good PQ & audio at that time. ohmy.gif shocking.gif It seems to me like most brands are growing, except Panny .. Maybe too snobbish to improve because of its' consistent market share, perhaps? cool2.gif The price is dropping though , but sadly , the quality is dropping as well.. cry.gif

Anyway, juz my 2cents , no offense meant. icon_rolleyes.gif

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I complained and in the end although made booking I cancelled it and changed to another brand.

I believe in only buying what I like and don't give a damn about the brand. No matter how famous it is. Still have lots of other household equipment using Pana but for this time the TV sucks.
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Hi guys is Panasonic viera th-p42x28k a good buy?

I saw a place selling at RM2200 only.
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post Jun 17 2010, 09:29 AM

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QUOTE(xxx_8088 @ Jun 17 2010, 03:13 AM)
IMO, to complain is definitely right ,  thumbup.gif but have to hope the 'voice' goes into the right side of ears & doesnt come out from the other side. nod.gif

In the other hand, to boycott the brand is not totally wrong too.. Let's look at this the other way,boys.. hmm.gif  i rmb the time when ppl didnt even wanna mention Philips for a certain period & how Philips grew through the times with its' Pixel Plus. It may not be the best LCD ( to each his own) , but honestly, i was awed by the Pixel Plus good PQ & audio at that time. ohmy.gif  shocking.gif  It seems to me like most brands are growing, except Panny .. Maybe too snobbish to improve because of its' consistent market share, perhaps? cool2.gif  The price is dropping though , but sadly , the quality is dropping as well..  cry.gif

Anyway, juz my 2cents , no offense meant. icon_rolleyes.gif
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Yes, Pixel Plus was amazing in the CRT era...definitely best of class. But they didn't made the same impact when it comes to LCD.
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post Jun 17 2010, 11:29 AM

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QUOTE(braveheart @ Jun 17 2010, 09:09 AM)
I complained and in the end although made booking I cancelled it and changed to another brand.

I believe in only buying what I like and don't give a damn about the brand. No matter how famous it is. Still have lots of other household equipment using Pana but for this time the TV sucks.
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the panny V series rocks . never thought any TV could be this good , exception , pioneer kuro of course

the reflection and the glare especially, is minimal = less eye strain. LCD and those with LED backlights for me is totally out . way too much glare . wanna save my eyes to see more beautiful things and objects

even without THX mode and PRO version panel , it has wonderful PQ with high contrast , means i could set it at lower brightness and contrast which translate into saving power consumption and better black levels too and probably made up for the slight irritation that the THX mode and PRO panel was not made available here

watching this V with dim environment really brought the beast out of this beautiful animal.

even under daytime natural light , it suffer very little color wash-out .

this model have turn me from a sammy fan boy into a panny lover

for the price offered by panny , best deal i ever had

you want cheap stuffs , other qualities will have to be compromised . do some research and buy what you think is suitable for you and what you could afford . the range available will cater for everybody and anybody

just my RM 0.02 cts

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post Jun 17 2010, 12:14 PM

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QUOTE(sunnyK @ Jun 17 2010, 11:29 AM)
the panny V series rocks . never thought any TV could be this good , exception , pioneer kuro of course

the reflection and the glare especially, is minimal = less eye strain. LCD and those with LED backlights for me is totally out . way too much glare . wanna save my eyes to see more beautiful things and objects

even without THX mode and PRO version panel , it has wonderful PQ with high contrast , means i could set it at lower brightness and contrast which translate into saving power consumption and better black levels too and probably made up for the slight irritation that the THX mode and PRO panel was not made available here

watching this V with dim environment really brought the beast out of this beautiful animal.

even under daytime natural light , it suffer very little color wash-out .

this model have turn me from a sammy fan boy into  a panny lover

for the price offered by panny , best deal i ever had

you want cheap stuffs , other qualities will have to be compromised . do some research and buy what you think is suitable for you and what you could afford . the range available will cater for everybody and anybody

just my RM 0.02 cts
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I have also just bought the 42"V and I am extremely pleased with it! Even setting the contrast, Brightness at 40 and colour at -10(I am still running in my V are these the right settings?), its still very watchable with very crisp and accurate colours and sharpness even with SD signals! This is the best TV I have ever own and like Sunnyk no regreats whatsoever. I have been to so many friends and relative houses with their LCDs and now LEDs on SD they are absolutely crap just way too bright and the colours are very monolithic(faces always look very bright and pale with no tone). Whereas this V is just fabulous very natural skin tone colours that are so easy on your eyes that you will not get tired viewing for long hours.

Yes I have friends that go "WHa you paid so much for a 42"Plasma ah".....I just smile and tell them that I waited 2 months for this baby as all other panels just does not have the PQ I want...thats the reason I still had my CRT up to now... to me Plasma still rocks!!

Just need the sifus help here I could get into the service menu but cant seem to access into the aging menu tried the remote and TV your help needed here. I am worried of touching anything else incase I mess up the factory settings.

cant wait to get it to 200hrs with mix programming

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QUOTE(vwgti @ Jun 17 2010, 12:14 PM)
I have also just bought the 40"V and I am extremely pleased with it! Evem setting the contrast, Brightness at 40 and colour at -10, its still very watchable with very crisp and accurate colours and sharpness even with SD signals! This is the best TV I have ever own and like Sunnyk no regerest whatsoever. I have been to so many friends and relative houses with their LCDs and now LEDs on SD they are absolutely crap just way too bright and the colours are very monlithic(faces always look very bright and pale with no tone). Whereas this V is just fabulous very natural skin tone colours that are so easy on your eyes that you will not get tired viewing for long hours.

Yes I have friends that go "WHa you paid so much for a 42"Plasma ah".....I just smile and tell them that I waited 2 months for this baby as all other panels just does not have the PQ I want...thats the reason I still had my CRT up to now... to me Plasma still rocks!!

Just need the sifus help here I could get into the service menu but cant seem to access into the aging menu tried the remote and TV your help needed here. I am worries of touching anything else incase I mees with settings.

cant wait to get it to 200hrs with mix programming
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Can i know which model u bought? i'm impressed by ur testimonial...choosing between sony and panny now...
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QUOTE(Damonzero @ Jun 17 2010, 12:18 PM)
Can i know which model u bought? i'm impressed by ur testimonial...choosing between sony and panny now...
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It the TH-P42V20K dont think many places display this unit and I did not view it when I bought mine! Just base on my eyes from the previous G series, mine was the only unit ordered from Sen Heng and last check with the sales guys another person ordered a set as well, as I used some CC points for my Plasma. You should try to find a place that could demo both Panny V and Sony as well, let your eyes decide....I know which one I prefer though...
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QUOTE(vwgti @ Jun 17 2010, 12:14 PM)
I have also just bought the 42"V and I am extremely pleased with it! Even setting the contrast, Brightness at 40 and colour at -10(I am still running in my V are these the right settings?), its still very watchable with very crisp and accurate colours and sharpness even with SD signals! This is the best TV I have ever own and like Sunnyk no regreats whatsoever. I have been to so many friends and relative houses with their LCDs and now LEDs on SD they are absolutely crap just way too bright and the colours are very monlithic(faces always look very bright and pale with no tone). Whereas this V is just fabulous very natural skin tone colours that are so easy on your eyes that you will not get tired viewing for long hours.

Yes I have friends that go "WHa you paid so much for a 42"Plasma ah".....I just smile and tell them that I waited 2 months for this baby as all other panels just does not have the PQ I want...thats the reason I still had my CRT up to now... to me Plasma still rocks!!

Just need the sifus help here I could get into the service menu but cant seem to access into the aging menu tried the remote and TV your help needed here. I am worried of touching anything else incase I mess up the factory settings.

cant wait to get it to 200hrs with mix programming
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Bro Sunnyk and vwgti,

How much u pay for the V series?
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post Jun 17 2010, 12:39 PM

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QUOTE(vwgti @ Jun 17 2010, 12:14 PM)
I have also just bought the 42"V and I am extremely pleased with it! Even setting the contrast, Brightness at 40 and colour at -10(I am still running in my V are these the right settings?), its still very watchable with very crisp and accurate colours and sharpness even with SD signals! This is the best TV I have ever own and like Sunnyk no regreats whatsoever. I have been to so many friends and relative houses with their LCDs and now LEDs on SD they are absolutely crap just way too bright and the colours are very monlithic(faces always look very bright and pale with no tone). Whereas this V is just fabulous very natural skin tone colours that are so easy on your eyes that you will not get tired viewing for long hours.

Yes I have friends that go "WHa you paid so much for a 42"Plasma ah".....I just smile and tell them that I waited 2 months for this baby as all other panels just does not have the PQ I want...thats the reason I still had my CRT up to now... to me Plasma still rocks!!

Just need the sifus help here I could get into the service menu but cant seem to access into the aging menu tried the remote and TV your help needed here. I am worried of touching anything else incase I mess up the factory settings.

cant wait to get it to 200hrs with mix programming
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during break-in , preferably , set everything at low . i don't think the IR thingy will appear as long as you rotate your contents , 2.35 :1 , 4:3 and full screen . sammy plasma models , which many claims have issues with IR , didn't happen to my sammy set as i vary my viewing contents

i thought you should set your brightness to -10 and color to 40 . could it be your typo

unless one have well trained eyes , it's hard to compare plasma with LCD at showroom demos as the advantage will be with LCD due to bright environment . bring it home and place it away from direct sunlight contact or extremely bright conditions , the plasma is an entirely different babe

but for this V and due to panny latest neoplasma technology which come with much higher native contrast than previous models , it is still bearable to watch under bright conditions

i have seen this V babe side by side with panny last year Z1 models , except for better black levels and smoother picture screen rendering for the Zee , this V color reproduction and contrast kick the ass of the Z . to me , color reproduction and high contrast matters

sometimes i daydream of owning a PIONEER Kuro , but becoz my dream didn't come true , i settle for this panny V


but don't scold me , if you happen to bought this V and later dislike it

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QUOTE(sunnyK @ Jun 17 2010, 12:39 PM)
during break-in , preferably , set everything at low . i don't think the IR thingy will appear as long as you rotate your contents , 2.35 :1 , 4:3 and full screen . sammy plasma models , which many claims have issues with IR , didn't happen to my sammy set as i vary my viewing contents

i thought you should set your brightness to -10 and color to 40 . could it be your typo

unless one  have well trained eyes , it's hard to compare plasma with LCD at showroom demos as the advantage will be with LCD due to bright environment . bring it home and place it away from direct sunlight contact or extremely bright conditions , the plasma is an entirely different babe

but for this V and due to panny latest neoplasma technology which come with much higher native contrast than previous models , it is still bearable to watch under bright conditions

i have seen this V babe side by side with panny last year Z1 models , except for better black levels and smoother picture screen rendering for the Zee , this V color reproduction and contrast kick the ass of the Z . too me , color reproduction and high contrast matters

but don't scold me , if you happen to bought this V and later dislike it
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thank you for your reply just wanted to know how to access the the aging menu, I guess you are right on the typo error on the settings even at home during the day this V series is very watchable, watch avatar on BD and have to say I was blown away by this TV....great dark scenes even with the lower settings....

Will help if you can actually walk me through on the service menu thingy...

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