QUOTE(albnok @ Feb 26 2010, 02:25 AM)
hazril: No need go A mode to meter - the meter works in M mode also what!
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 Feb 26 2010, 02:40 AM
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hazril: No need go A mode to meter - the meter works in M mode also what! |
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Feb 26 2010, 02:50 AM
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just like the flashgun level control was limited for M mode .... I hope there were have the customization on F42AM for A mode >.< if not I try for F58AM =D
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Feb 26 2010, 03:02 AM
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QUOTE(albnok @ Feb 26 2010, 02:25 AM) Banzai_san: albnok: have any reference for the iso thingee? would like to read somemore. i getting more dizzy after reading wat u said. Supposing you were in bright sunlight, Aperture Priority. 18mm F16 Setting to ISO100 EV 0, would result in the meter setting the shutter speed to 1/100s. Now you bump it up to ISO400. The meter goes to 1/400s. Then you set the EV to -2. Then the meter goes to 1/1600s. However, if you were at ISO400 EV 0, the meter says 1/400s. Then if you go to ISO100 EV -2, the meter says 1/400s. Sensors only have one ISO - the base ISO. For Alpha CCDs it is ISO100 and for the CMOS bodies it is ISO200. If you use ISO400 on a CCD, it is really ISO100 with EV -2 (that's why the shutter speed is faster.) The gain is applied on the JPG. If you shoot RAW, and adjust the EV later, you can see how true this is. lwliam: Updated main list on page 46!   |
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Feb 26 2010, 04:26 AM
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» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Wish to join!! but im currently in Sarawak...  QUOTE(albnok @ Feb 26 2010, 02:25 AM) khairi83: For the KM5D, KM7D, A100 and A700, you have a bonus - you have the menu option "Shutter Release Without Lens" and you set that to Enabled. " For the KM5D, KM7D, A100 and A700, you have a bonus - you have the menu option "Shutter Release Without Lens" and you set that to Enabled." So you can use it in Aperture Priority. They downgraded this feature in the A200 onwards and even the A900. TrutH_SeeKeR: If you know any film production companies, or serious photography lighting shops, you can find the CTO there. Even Digicolor at Mutiara Complex Jalan Ipoh has it. But I forget if you're from KL or not. They also do large canvas printing. Banzai_san: Supposing you were in bright sunlight, Aperture Priority. 18mm F16 Setting to ISO100 EV 0, would result in the meter setting the shutter speed to 1/100s. Now you bump it up to ISO400. The meter goes to 1/400s. Then you set the EV to -2. Then the meter goes to 1/1600s. However, if you were at ISO400 EV 0, the meter says 1/400s. Then if you go to ISO100 EV -2, the meter says 1/400s. Sensors only have one ISO - the base ISO. For Alpha CCDs it is ISO100 and for the CMOS bodies it is ISO200. If you use ISO400 on a CCD, it is really ISO100 with EV -2 (that's why the shutter speed is faster.) The gain is applied on the JPG. If you shoot RAW, and adjust the EV later, you can see how true this is. Is that means that A100/A700 can Snap Photos without even have a lens attached? tats how u capture your single eye Avatar picture? The ISO explaination is quite confusing but interesting.. im trying to understand more.. The Base ISO for CCD sensor is ISO100 (best pic quality too)... and Base ISO for CMOS sensor is ISO200?? is that mean that ISO100 in an A700 will hv same picture quality as its ISO200 picture quality....? I heard some says CCD perform better at iso 100 compare to CMOS sensor at iso 100.. true false? Btw..albert wan thanks u. i finally manage to trigger my F42 using my F58 attached...still confused how i manage to set it.. The FN button bring me to... C 01, C02, C03 etc... and only at C03 that i manage to set to "CTRL +" after tat finally manage to trigger d other flash. There are some text on the screen of C03 that i have no idea what alphabets are they... it look like "CE rL 1" C04= PASM C05= LESLM ( look smthing like that...) until C08... donno what function for..... I really need an english manual.. can anyone borrow me theirs? or possible to download pdf format? anyone knows? |
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Feb 26 2010, 05:34 AM
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clivengu: No, my avatar needs to use a film camera.
The "Shutter Release Without Lens" Enabled is for unchipped lenses (like M42, T-mount, the Samyang lenses, etc.) Of course you can also use it to shoot without a lens at all but there is no reason to do that! Well as you have the A100 (CCD) and A700 (CMOS) you may or may not be able to tell the difference. ISO100 on the A700/A850/A900 is just ISO200 with EV +1 and then it adjusts the EV back down, but losing some dynamic range. I've bolded my personal recommendations. C01 - HSS on or off C02 - Channel 1 or 2 or 3 or 4 C03 - CTRL1 (CTRL+ to trigger F42/F58 on A700/A850/A900) or CTRL2 (CTRL to trigger F36/F56/F42/F58 but only on A850/A900) C04 - PASM or M (means you can use Manual Power flash even if your camera body is not on Manual Exposure mode) C05 - TestM (strobe for 4 seconds when you press Test) or Test3 (3 strobes) or Test1 (one strobe) C06 - Power Saving 30 minutes, 3 minutes, 0.5 minutes or off C07 - Power Saving when in Wireless 60 minutes or off Here's the F58 manual: http://esupport.sony.com/US/perl/model-doc...pl?mdl=HVLF58AM eddybeh: I can't find an easy explanation online. wingster: You'll love the C04 custom function on the F58! Though, I'm not sure if the F42 supports PASM modes with Manual Power flash - I don't have a F42 nor its manual. |
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Feb 26 2010, 05:55 AM
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i was wondring..anyone running alienbees lighting eqiup
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Feb 26 2010, 07:40 AM
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QUOTE(hazril @ Feb 26 2010, 01:11 AM) using direct flash this mean we get the correct exposure for background and fill flash for people? oh many thanks.. will apply this morning.. from what i learn b4 in the basic workshop,go A mode > meter background > take reading > go M mode > input the value > focus > snap  .. got whole day shooting even for noobie me..  |
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Feb 26 2010, 11:13 AM
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QUOTE(wingster @ Feb 26 2010, 01:45 AM) depends how much the fungus has.... if there was filled with many of it I guess is impossible to save it .... I think it has a lot.QUOTE(eddybeh @ Feb 26 2010, 01:54 AM) can send 4 fungus cleaning.. but if the fungus ad stain like my old 1 here, then no hope ad.. but my fren was joking with me suggesting to use it to take lomo. How bad is your old lens? Aww man mine was like a world map inside. Hahahhaah. I think no hope d. I only recently found the lens u know? Was so so so long at home no one noticed. I only wanna play play with it if it can be cleaned. If not then just leave it. 4 fungus cleaning can go pertama complex's camera international. ( i think so it's tat name, but confirm got an international in the name) QUOTE(albnok @ Feb 26 2010, 02:25 AM) Wonka: You probably will not be able to access the inside. Best to send it to a camera repairman. Okay I will try. |
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Feb 26 2010, 11:29 AM
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To bro albnok..and others
TrutH_SeeKeR: If you know any film production companies, or serious photography lighting shops, you can find the CTO there. Even Digicolor at Mutiara Complex Jalan Ipoh has it. But I forget if you're from KL or not. They also do large canvas printing. Thank Q bros. i will visit the places u guys mentioned. this is thread is so helpful to the members. Yes, i am local..from PJ so i dun have probs going to the places mentioned. Have a nice weekend guys..i'm going to the Ulu Langat dam to take some pics later this evening.. This post has been edited by TrutH_SeeKeR: Feb 26 2010, 11:30 AM |
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Feb 26 2010, 11:32 AM
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urghh... fish eye or sp90?
or is there UW A lens below 1.5k? decision2  |
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Feb 26 2010, 12:28 PM
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Ksano: u do shoot macro quite a lot, go for SP90
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Feb 26 2010, 01:02 PM
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QUOTE(nashakir @ Feb 26 2010, 07:40 AM) this mean we get the correct exposure for background and fill flash for people? oh many thanks.. will apply this morning.. yup...u can try...just sharing what i learn... .. got whole day shooting even for noobie me..  |
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Feb 26 2010, 01:45 PM
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QUOTE(Wonka @ Feb 26 2010, 11:13 AM) I think it has a lot. mine have a circle in it. i also found it in a cupboard at home with it's rear side opened. belong to my dad who used to own a minolta(but broken after a drop and now thrown). i think it's left there around 10 years. How bad is your old lens? Aww man mine was like a world map inside. Hahahhaah. I think no hope d. I only recently found the lens u know? Was so so so long at home no one noticed. I only wanna play play with it if it can be cleaned. If not then just leave it. Okay I will try. Added on February 26, 2010, 1:53 pmguys~~ need some opinion of u all... minolta 50mm f1.7 or continue fund for sony 50mm f1.4?? This post has been edited by eddybeh: Feb 26 2010, 01:53 PM |
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Feb 26 2010, 02:17 PM
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QUOTE(eddybeh @ Feb 26 2010, 01:45 PM) mine have a circle in it. i also found it in a cupboard at home with it's rear side opened. belong to my dad who used to own a minolta(but broken after a drop and now thrown). i think it's left there around 10 years. if not really urgent continue fund for 1.4 Added on February 26, 2010, 1:53 pmguys~~ need some opinion of u all... minolta 50mm f1.7 or continue fund for sony 50mm f1.4??  |
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Feb 26 2010, 02:35 PM
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hey albert... ill be there for the TT... ill be bringing my a700, tammy 70-300, 50 1.8 and tammy 17-50.... .and my girlfriend with her lomo
....see ya there mate... pss.. a new photo to analyse....guys give it a go... clue : national identity..........  |
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Feb 26 2010, 02:38 PM
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QUOTE(Ksano @ Feb 26 2010, 11:32 AM) urghh... fish eye or sp90? fisheye lah bro... or is there UW A lens below 1.5k? decision2 take a look last nite's session..   |
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Feb 26 2010, 02:41 PM
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QUOTE(braindead_fr3ak @ Feb 26 2010, 02:35 PM) hey albert... ill be there for the TT... ill be bringing my a700, tammy 70-300, 50 1.8 and tammy 17-50.... .and my girlfriend with her lomo palm tree?....see ya there mate... pss.. a new photo to analyse....guys give it a go... clue : national identity.......... |
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Feb 26 2010, 03:00 PM
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QUOTE(braindead_fr3ak @ Feb 26 2010, 02:35 PM) hey albert... ill be there for the TT... ill be bringing my a700, tammy 70-300, 50 1.8 and tammy 17-50.... .and my girlfriend with her lomo hmm, national identity huh........see ya there mate... pss.. a new photo to analyse....guys give it a go... clue : national identity.......... paddy field? cameron? |
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Feb 26 2010, 03:34 PM
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from my whiteroom studio...
presenting..   no cricket was harm during photoshoot.. |
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Feb 26 2010, 03:58 PM
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QUOTE(albnok @ Feb 26 2010, 05:34 AM) clivengu: No, my avatar needs to use a film camera. wow. Thanks..your guide is even better than reading manual. haha! Appreciate your help all d time The "Shutter Release Without Lens" Enabled is for unchipped lenses (like M42, T-mount, the Samyang lenses, etc.) Of course you can also use it to shoot without a lens at all but there is no reason to do that! Well as you have the A100 (CCD) and A700 (CMOS) you may or may not be able to tell the difference. ISO100 on the A700/A850/A900 is just ISO200 with EV +1 and then it adjusts the EV back down, but losing some dynamic range. I've bolded my personal recommendations. C01 - HSS on or off C02 - Channel 1 or 2 or 3 or 4 C03 - CTRL1 (CTRL+ to trigger F42/F58 on A700/A850/A900) or CTRL2 (CTRL to trigger F36/F56/F42/F58 but only on A850/A900) C04 - PASM or M (means you can use Manual Power flash even if your camera body is not on Manual Exposure mode) C05 - TestM (strobe for 4 seconds when you press Test) or Test3 (3 strobes) or Test1 (one strobe) C06 - Power Saving 30 minutes, 3 minutes, 0.5 minutes or off C07 - Power Saving when in Wireless 60 minutes or off Here's the F58 manual: http://esupport.sony.com/US/perl/model-doc...pl?mdl=HVLF58AM I should slowly read the manual now. hehe |
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