Photography The Sony Alpha Thread V37!, The Orange Legion
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 Feb 23 2010, 05:25 PM
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I used F58 for the cny week, replacing my F42.. I must says controling its direction is so much flexible...
Recharging time improved by a lot! it can strobe too I still cant figure out how to Trigger my F42, using my F58 on my A700.. try multiple ways but f42 doesnt seem to fired.. Can any1 tell me what thing i need to take note? My F58 Menu is in Chinese/korean I cant read. Any1 can exchange with me english one  I find that there is a lot of setting in F58 i havent find out.. |
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Feb 23 2010, 09:05 PM
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QUOTE(albnok @ Feb 23 2010, 06:02 PM) clivengu: LOL why do you have a Korean manual? thanks albert... Cause i bought secondhand from sm1 in alphanatics.com I din realise the manual is in chinese/korean until i want to study it in detail..Press the Fn button until you see either CTRL, RMT or RMT2. Set F58 to CTRL, press Fn, set Ratio On. If it's not in Channel 1, hold down the Fn button for 3 seconds then go through the menu (quite obvious, this one.) Set F42 to WL on, channel 1. Set A700 to WL flash. Also, refresh time for F42 and F58 at 1/1 power are both 4 seconds. The F36 and F56 are slower.  Ok i hv try your steps.. but i still couldnt make my F42 to fire.. I set my A700 to Wireless Flash. I set my F58 to Wireless Flash. Manual/ TTL (doesnt matter right?) I follow your steps. Press the Fn button. Change F58 to CTRL. ON the Ratio.. Set the ratio to 1: 1 . Channel 1. I set my F42 to Mode WL Ch1, Level Auto, Zoom Auto. Should be set to go.. But when I try to focus that time.... The F58 setting Change back from CTRL to RMT again by itself.. and F42 doesnt fire... I must have miss out something  |
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Feb 26 2010, 04:26 AM
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» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Wish to join!! but im currently in Sarawak...  QUOTE(albnok @ Feb 26 2010, 02:25 AM) khairi83: For the KM5D, KM7D, A100 and A700, you have a bonus - you have the menu option "Shutter Release Without Lens" and you set that to Enabled. " For the KM5D, KM7D, A100 and A700, you have a bonus - you have the menu option "Shutter Release Without Lens" and you set that to Enabled." So you can use it in Aperture Priority. They downgraded this feature in the A200 onwards and even the A900. TrutH_SeeKeR: If you know any film production companies, or serious photography lighting shops, you can find the CTO there. Even Digicolor at Mutiara Complex Jalan Ipoh has it. But I forget if you're from KL or not. They also do large canvas printing. Banzai_san: Supposing you were in bright sunlight, Aperture Priority. 18mm F16 Setting to ISO100 EV 0, would result in the meter setting the shutter speed to 1/100s. Now you bump it up to ISO400. The meter goes to 1/400s. Then you set the EV to -2. Then the meter goes to 1/1600s. However, if you were at ISO400 EV 0, the meter says 1/400s. Then if you go to ISO100 EV -2, the meter says 1/400s. Sensors only have one ISO - the base ISO. For Alpha CCDs it is ISO100 and for the CMOS bodies it is ISO200. If you use ISO400 on a CCD, it is really ISO100 with EV -2 (that's why the shutter speed is faster.) The gain is applied on the JPG. If you shoot RAW, and adjust the EV later, you can see how true this is. Is that means that A100/A700 can Snap Photos without even have a lens attached? tats how u capture your single eye Avatar picture? The ISO explaination is quite confusing but interesting.. im trying to understand more.. The Base ISO for CCD sensor is ISO100 (best pic quality too)... and Base ISO for CMOS sensor is ISO200?? is that mean that ISO100 in an A700 will hv same picture quality as its ISO200 picture quality....? I heard some says CCD perform better at iso 100 compare to CMOS sensor at iso 100.. true false? Btw..albert wan thanks u. i finally manage to trigger my F42 using my F58 attached...still confused how i manage to set it.. The FN button bring me to... C 01, C02, C03 etc... and only at C03 that i manage to set to "CTRL +" after tat finally manage to trigger d other flash. There are some text on the screen of C03 that i have no idea what alphabets are they... it look like "CE rL 1" C04= PASM C05= LESLM ( look smthing like that...) until C08... donno what function for..... I really need an english manual.. can anyone borrow me theirs? or possible to download pdf format? anyone knows? |
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Feb 26 2010, 03:58 PM
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QUOTE(albnok @ Feb 26 2010, 05:34 AM) clivengu: No, my avatar needs to use a film camera. wow. Thanks..your guide is even better than reading manual. haha! Appreciate your help all d time The "Shutter Release Without Lens" Enabled is for unchipped lenses (like M42, T-mount, the Samyang lenses, etc.) Of course you can also use it to shoot without a lens at all but there is no reason to do that! Well as you have the A100 (CCD) and A700 (CMOS) you may or may not be able to tell the difference. ISO100 on the A700/A850/A900 is just ISO200 with EV +1 and then it adjusts the EV back down, but losing some dynamic range. I've bolded my personal recommendations. C01 - HSS on or off C02 - Channel 1 or 2 or 3 or 4 C03 - CTRL1 (CTRL+ to trigger F42/F58 on A700/A850/A900) or CTRL2 (CTRL to trigger F36/F56/F42/F58 but only on A850/A900) C04 - PASM or M (means you can use Manual Power flash even if your camera body is not on Manual Exposure mode) C05 - TestM (strobe for 4 seconds when you press Test) or Test3 (3 strobes) or Test1 (one strobe) C06 - Power Saving 30 minutes, 3 minutes, 0.5 minutes or off C07 - Power Saving when in Wireless 60 minutes or off Here's the F58 manual: http://esupport.sony.com/US/perl/model-doc...pl?mdl=HVLF58AM  I should slowly read the manual now. hehe |
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Mar 13 2010, 09:18 PM
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AhAhhAhhh bad news ! This evening while shooting outdoor... i attached my f42 on the light box ... a wind suddenly blown and the whole stand fall down...
Result: the clips for the hotshoe both Side broken ... now it can't fit to the flash stand nor camera ...omg..can it b fix ? Why r they in fragile plastic instead made from metal like other brand ;( any1 encounter this b4? Today shooting become a bad session. No satisfying photos after the flash broken ;( |
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Mar 13 2010, 09:57 PM
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QUOTE(freddy manson @ Mar 13 2010, 09:43 PM) ha ha ha so nextime bring duck tape to attach the flash? I just hope their design intention is that the hotshoes part is a separate exchangeable piece. Looking at the bottom of d flash it does look like it can b change . If it can b change then is clever .. if not ill may b exhange a large portion of the flash. N cost me a bomb. Hope they can change it for a small price. I haven't check if my flash stand that attached with it is it broken too ..since both side also made from plastic ... pray ... luckily is not my f58 that is attached to the light box . Should have ask an assistant to take care of all the lighting setup ...wat a messurm.. i think they build it with plactic to make sure the hotshoe is the only thing that gets broken.. imagine when the hotshoe is made from metal and when the flash falls then instead of JUST the hotshoe.. the whole flash get broken in two (or more)? the same goes with the hotshoe connection port in the body.. imagine when a camera (attached with a flash) falls to the ground.. and because the 'attachment' is so strong then instead of the flash gets ripped o the body.. the flash suffer (broken into two/three parts) and the body also suffers.. so i think the hotshoe is sacrificed fairly.. he he this is just my opinion tho.. im using 2 bodies and both had fall from my grip and now i know why the plastic hotshoe is there in the first place.. i didnt work for the designing team but i think this might cross their mind upon designing the hotshoe... |
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Mar 19 2010, 05:34 PM
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WARNING.. for those thinking Sony flash plastic hotshoes is meant to broken easily and easily replaceable + cheap... better b careful as the replacement can cause up to 50 % the price for a f42.
I ask in Sony service centre for my plastic hotshoes replacement . The lower part is rm 110. ( change d whole lower big portion of d whole flash. Not just d plastic ! Stupid design ) Labour fee is rm 150 . Total of rm 260! For that few mm plastic .I cancel my intention to repair it. I'll just custom made my own stand . Anyway i only use it for wireless flash since my main flash is f58 now... ;( Very disappointed .. |
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