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English Clubs Arsenal Street Talk, 10/3 03:45 ARS vs POR | FT: ARS 3-1 BUR

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buzzfizz
post Feb 19 2010, 03:57 PM

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What about Grafite?
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post Feb 19 2010, 04:03 PM

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its unfair to say this player is a flop,
that player is a flop....all flop la like that

then if theres only 1-2 super strikers in the world. the other clubs will die?
jeez. cannot think like that one.

there are some that is a flop at certain clubs
some that isnt. very hard to say
i guess the best thing to do is, just trust whoever wenger signs,
if its chamkah then chamakh it is.....i would be glad, if he is not as good as we hope him to be
may AW polish him up.

thats just how we do things here,
as long as AW is Arsenal mgr, we gotta learn to accept his principle & mgt style


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post Feb 19 2010, 04:11 PM

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1 thing for sure , Fabianski is a flop , lol . Big Time !


Added on February 19, 2010, 4:17 pm
QUOTE(chypher @ Feb 19 2010, 03:22 PM)
yea, it is indirect freekick but watch the goal one more time, you will see that sol campbell is trying to block the kick but the referee is blocking sol campbell from going to the ball.

I just don't get it why is the referee block our players.
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This .

The situation is very unfair , at least let campbell go for defense first . But there's nothing wrong about this actually .

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post Feb 19 2010, 04:29 PM

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it is unfair because indirect FK inside the penalty box? Without any chance to defense while Sol is still arguing with the ref, the ref simply put the ball into the Porto player feet.
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post Feb 19 2010, 04:41 PM

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again with the signing... haih...

someone mentioned we should used our extra money to get players... errr do we even have any extras?

signing an established players doesn't mean addressing ur needs. Chelsea signed sheva but he's a flop. Charlton signed Rommedahl but flop also. not only charlton got relegated, still fighting to keep pace in Championships. Liverpool... well u know la how many signings they had the past 5 years, it's say most of them flops. Wigan found a gem in Amr Zaki last season but he couldn't cope with EPL tough tackles, out for most of the season and never discover his form. ManU got berbatov but i think he's average at best. ManCity signed Robinho... flop. Who else?

Actually, AW has been signing gems the past 5 years (bar Silvestre.. ehehe). Nasri, yet to realise his potential but we all know he's no flop. at least not yet. Diaby, most of us given up on him but look at how he has come through the past few months. Song, no one wants him but look at what he has become. Rosicky, unlucky with injury but you know he can just turn up the heat anytime. Arshavin, i don't think he's a flop though coz it's tough for him without any support. Vermaelen, flop is it? u must be kidding me. Ramsey, glimpses of brilliance and this is one for the future. Walcott, like ramsey, showed glimpses of brilliance but he might be a flop though. i'd give him another 2 years. Fabianski? of course now people saying he's a flop but i say this with caution, watch Diaby. Eduardo, again unlucky with injury but i think he'll come thru before this season ends.

call me optimistic but I believe in the squad.

come on u gunners!
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post Feb 19 2010, 04:50 PM

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no andrey not a flop
its just height matter
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post Feb 19 2010, 05:41 PM

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fabianski is really a talented goalkeeper
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post Feb 19 2010, 05:44 PM

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QUOTE(buzzfizz @ Feb 19 2010, 03:57 PM)
What about Grafite?
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He's aging already. Plus so many factors to consider.

QUOTE(leymar7 @ Feb 19 2010, 04:50 PM)
no andrey not a flop
its just height matter
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Definitely not a flop, his best position just isn't lone striker.
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post Feb 19 2010, 05:52 PM

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QUOTE(frankiejay @ Feb 19 2010, 04:54 PM)
And Liverpool.
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and and dont forget, chelsea and man city. Must have them in every transfer rumour



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post Feb 19 2010, 06:17 PM

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QUOTE(Angel of Deth @ Feb 19 2010, 04:29 PM)
it is unfair because indirect FK inside the penalty box? Without any chance to defense while Sol is still arguing with the ref, the ref simply put the ball into the Porto player feet.
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I've already corrected myself that there's nothing wrong about it . Just that the positioning of the referee caused the "situation" a little bit unfair .

QUOTE(leymar7 @ Feb 19 2010, 04:50 PM)
no andrey not a flop
its just height matter
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Yes , Andrey is certainly an excellent player . Don't forget that he is playing while bearing an injury which can only be corrected by surgery .

On addition , IMO , Andrey always played with the desire to win and did his past , just that the small injury was niggling him from performing as well as the past .
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post Feb 19 2010, 06:24 PM

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There no flop in Arsenal team currently (Fabianski don't count cause he never actually have a run of games, though few of the game he play actually do make me feel doh.gif )

Just that sometime the player just off form, like Nasri, he is currently off form, he did perform well last year. Also, sometime I felt it the fault of the tactic that make some of our player perform under par, for example how can AW put Ashavin against giant like Rio Ferdinand and such up front alone?

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QUOTE(jim18992 @ Feb 19 2010, 06:24 PM)
There no flop in Arsenal team currently (Fabianski don't count cause he never actually have a run of games, though few of the game he play actually do make me feel doh.gif )

Just that sometime the player just off form, like Nasri, he is currently off form, he did perform well last year. Also, sometime I felt it the fault of the tactic that make some of our player perform under par, for example how can AW put Ashavin against giant like Rio Ferdinand and such up front alone?
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i never thought Samir performed well enough to justify his price tag for the 1 season and a half he'd been with us so far. he's certainly is 1 of the main reason for our toothless attack for these past gloomy months we have for our striking department

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post Feb 19 2010, 06:43 PM

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yeah..Gunners have potential...but the Q, when these potential gonna turn to results(winning cups?)...i believe in AW too...and most of my decision in my real life also based on his policy and philosophy...hehehe...

i think arsenal just looking fw to finish off their stadium payment first without asking board of directors by generating money themselves...how? get young player and sell expensive after nurturing em and qualify to champs league...qualifying to champs lge is not ez with young players(hats off to wenger in this case)....we'll see after 2012...
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QUOTE(skeleton202 @ Feb 19 2010, 06:41 PM)
fabianski is really a talented goalkeeper
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Yes and the best schoolgoalkeeper in the world by far laugh.gif

Even his captain Fabregas thinks he is the best school goalkeeper around sweat.gif
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post Feb 19 2010, 07:51 PM

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QUOTE(kimhoong @ Feb 19 2010, 02:41 PM)
I believe most of us will feel okay if the freekick taker acknowledged the referee before taking it fast.

IINM, Henry did this before, but he verbally informed the referee first - correct me if I'm wrong though.

Anyway, the location of the freekick is "sensitive", the referee should had judged the situation more "rationally".
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Are you sure about the feeling okay part cuz from my experience, its never OK when opponent score from a quickly taken free kick when you dun even have your wall yet. From the defending side POV, the ref should only allow the freekick to be taken once the wall is fully formed. From the attacking side POV, they would like to play it at the best possible opportunity available in order to score. So whose side should be given the benefit? Obviously the attacking side because they were fouled in the first place. I still can remember Chelsea and Aston Villa players protesting furiously about Henry's quick freekick surrounding the ref and all like a bunch of maniacs, no need to mention what Mourinho said then cuz he was absolutely livid.

You are right, Henry did asked the ref first b4 taking the freekick, but hey this is Champions League football, not Sunday league where you need to be seeing every opportunity available in order to score. That quick thinking is what makes the differences in tight Champions League clashes. Remember Giggs' quickly taken freekick goal v Lille a couple of years back. Lille players even threatened to stop playing as a sign of protest but thats what you call naivety. I'll take a quote from Alan Hansen, "Bob Paisely used to tell us, put a damn man in front of the ball everytime the opponent gets a freekick".

Well, how sensitive is your sensitive? How sensitive is the ref's sensitive? Thats why you get controversial decisions now and then cuz ultimately its down to the ref's judgement. These things tend to even out, remember Fabregas's blatant handball to block Liverpool's freekick? Well, the ref thought it was alright then laugh.gif
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QUOTE(toshio14 @ Feb 19 2010, 06:40 PM)
i never thought Samir performed well enough to justify his price tag for the 1 season and a half he'd been with us so far. he's certainly is 1 of the main reason for our toothless attack for these past gloomy months we have for our striking department
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+1. I always rate him as average. Don't understand why you guys rated him so high. It is so obvious that he played outside the position
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QUOTE(ivanau88 @ Feb 19 2010, 08:07 PM)
+1. I always rate him as average. Don't understand why you guys rated him so high. It is so obvious that he played outside the position
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He is an ok player. Tho he not living up to his "Next Zidane" status last time when AW just bought him.
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QUOTE(jim18992 @ Feb 19 2010, 08:21 PM)
He is an ok player. Tho he not living up to his "Next Zidane" status last time when AW just bought him.
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I thought georcuff is the next zidane?
Nasri was inconsistent this year. Probably the 2nd season syndrome

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post Feb 19 2010, 08:48 PM

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Gourcuff so good .
If Wenger buy chamakh , he must get gourcuff .
both of them link up well .
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i would love to see fabregas link with georcuff


Added on February 19, 2010, 8:49 pmbut i guess its not quite possible tongue.gif

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