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Photography The Sony Alpha Thread V36!, The Orange Legion

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signither
post Jan 26 2010, 09:34 AM

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QUOTE(lwliam @ Jan 26 2010, 01:52 AM)
out of my 5 lenses, 4 of them are FFs too... i can still wait... wink.gif
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mine only 1 out of 3 sad.gif
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anyone can recommend lens that best for landscape and macro?
budget around Rm500 below or around.
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post Jan 26 2010, 09:41 AM

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QUOTE(Mikeshashimi @ Jan 25 2010, 10:35 PM)
im thinking of upgrading my camera for my bday...

but i was wondering... should i stick to sony or jump to another ship..
can some of u loyal sony users here tell me why u stuck with sony for a long time.. smile.gif

i know finejava said because he is a sony fan.. haha.
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I see that you have the A100. If you can live with that then any of the newer Alpha bodies will be great boost in performance for you.

What is the reason for jumping ship? Is there anything in the alpha mount that you want but cannot be provided for by Sony? If not then there's really no reason to jump.

Why I stuck to Sony:

1. I am not a high ISO pixel peeper thus all the Sony has poor high ISO performance crap does not affect me. With the A550, that argument is getting real old, real fast anyway.

2. The F58 flash - it is cheaper than the canikon's counterpart. It is more versatile and real fast in usage. Turning from landscape to portrait orientation is a SNAP, literally!!! I challenge any 580EXII and SB-900 users to beat the F58's speed in turning from landscape to portrait orientation without the use of any brackets. Problem is you will only miss it when it's not there.

3. Steady Shot Inside - all mountable lens (except for unchipped, manual focus lenses) stabilized! 'Nuff said.


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For APS-C bodies you will need 16mm for a proper wide angle. 18mm is like 28mm on a FF - acceptable but some of you would wish it was wider at times. 24mm on APS-C is cramped! 28mm? DO NOT even go there!

The 24mm and 28mm are for FF. I like 24mm better than 28mm - that's why the new 28-75mm F2.8 lens holds no interest for me. I would rather they have a 24-70mm F4 or even a 24-85mm f3.5-4.5 for a budget alternative to the 24-70mm f2.8 Zeiss.
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post Jan 26 2010, 09:47 AM

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QUOTE(finejava @ Jan 26 2010, 01:46 AM)
braindead_fr3ak: this sharp...

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lwliam, weixuan: i'm planning to upgrade to FF once the replacement for A900 comes out...so...just need to tahan till i get my FF...

24mm on FF should be comfortable enough...compare to aps-c

lwliam: previously i had my sigma 10-20, 16-80 and 18-250...base exif...all my shots are usually taken avgly at 30-60mm...so...24-70 will fit my style just fine...
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QUOTE(lwliam @ Jan 26 2010, 01:52 AM)
i know what u mean when u say distorted, but sometimes in tight conditions it really saves the day (and even with pronounced distortion) it gives more kick than just any regular joe's photos. but it of coz boils down to preference.
out of my 5 lenses, 4 of them are FFs too... i can still wait... wink.gif
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all moving towards FF thumbup.gif

but for myself, I will probably move towards m4/3 or APS-C EVIL camera (if sony makes one) when they mature. i prefer smaller camera brows.gif


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QUOTE(shootkk @ Jan 26 2010, 09:41 AM)
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my sentiments exactly! Have been using A100 for 2 years now and still loving it!

1. although i would prefer it to have better high ISO, but i wouldn't trade it for the ISO 80 that is just so useful
2. ditto on the F58. i haven't use any other flash so it's not fair for me to compare. but F58 is just a breeze to use
3. i once tried using my friend's camera with a 50mm mounted and wondered why my photo are still soft when i used 1/30s. too pampered by steady shot tongue.gif

This post has been edited by weixuan: Jan 26 2010, 09:55 AM
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post Jan 26 2010, 10:20 AM

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lwliam: Unique as in, there is no Canon 14-24mm. The 14-24mm is not quite considered 'in' the holy trinity the way the Nikkor 17-35mm is (the 24-35mm end of the 17-35mm comes in very crucially for emergency un-distorted shots.)
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post Jan 26 2010, 10:34 AM

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QUOTE(albnok @ Jan 25 2010, 11:27 PM)
Braynumb: Canon does not have AF with Zeiss ZE lenses!

And don't be a sheep. If somebody jump means you must jump ah?

I find it quite silly that there are people here who tend to follow without knowing why. One fella sells his 16-105mm, then another fella with a 16-105mm also wonders why but decides to sell anyway. One fella gets a split focusing screen, suddenly a lot of people want it, but they don't understand what it is for and when it cannot be used.
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Ok... I stand Corrected... so the ZE mount's contacts are for focus confirmation izzit?

didn't say must jump la... sticking with Sony anyways...

well... good thing I didn't sell my 16105 coz of impulse biggrin.gif sold it coz need the money... hehehe...

QUOTE(weixuan @ Jan 26 2010, 12:38 AM)
1750 is about 1 stop faster than 1680. so it all depends if you want the reach or the extra stop smile.gif

anyway, 1680 spam below

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dayum! very nais set indeed... biggrin.gif

QUOTE(neo_lam @ Jan 26 2010, 12:46 AM)
spam one of my old pic being reedited....shot with 1680

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this is seriously poisonous!
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post Jan 26 2010, 11:06 AM

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Braynumb: Yes, for focus confirm.

There was only one other mount which Carl Zeiss made autofocusing full-frame lenses for - the contax N Digital. It was the world's first full-frame dSLR (and using CCD)! The body reminds me too much of a Nikon F4. Sadly this was discontinued in 2005. Don't hope to find any of these N-mount lenses, they are obscenely rare (and the slightly more common C/Y mount is very rare, too.)

http://www.luminous-landscape.com/reviews/...n-digital.shtml
http://www.dpreview.com/news/0202/02022505...gitalinhand.asp

Contax was a brand developed by Zeiss Ikon to counter the Leicas. So in that sense it was a system developed by a lens company, instead of a camera company developing lenses!

Somebody else asked what the T in T* stands for - apparently, Tarnung:

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Most of these lenses were marked T* referring to their T* coating (pronounced "Tee Star"), a highly developed Zeiss multi-coating process. The 'T' came from a German word 'Tarnung', which means 'camouflaging', as in making invisible, used here in reference to making flare invisible.

From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contax.
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waaa... the contax N looks gorgeous! biggrin.gif a great collector's item... biggrin.gif btw, the Zeiss Icon is a film camera right? albert, with film cameras, if the film is ISO400, does it mean that i can't/shouldn't set my camera to more than ISO400 or i can, but would cause noise?
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post Jan 26 2010, 11:26 AM

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the rubber on the hand grip of my a100 is quite loose dy.. how much to change it in sony service centre ya?? any idea?
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post Jan 26 2010, 11:34 AM

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QUOTE(Braynumb @ Jan 26 2010, 11:12 AM)
waaa...  the contax N looks gorgeous! biggrin.gif a great collector's item... biggrin.gif btw, the Zeiss Icon is a film camera right? albert, with film cameras, if the film is ISO400, does it mean that i can't/shouldn't  set my camera to more than ISO400 or i can, but would cause noise?
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Bro, films have fixed ISO values. You cannot push the ISO values of film. If you increase the camera's ISO setting, you will only cause the shot to be underexposed (because the camera thinks you are using a higher ISO value film, but in actual fact you are not). Noise in DSLR is only relevant because it is digital noise. Film is analogue, so it doesn't have digital noise. Having said that, higher ISO films have grains.... these are very different than digital noise and in some cases is actually quite pleasing.

I remember I used to have ISO400 films and I have to store them in my fridge because at ambient temperature, the film will go haywire.... tongue.gif
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First to fouth pictures edited with Photoshop. First time making use of HDR laugh.gif Pictures taken in Cameron Highlands recently. Using a200 + kitlens 18-70. Comments are greatly welcomed to improve the pictures thumbup.gif Thanks

PS: How to get rid of the purple marks on the clouds blink.gif

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post Jan 26 2010, 12:02 PM

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Nice. Really love #4 detail. Anyone up to broga? hehe. Really want to again. There 's a lot of detail place that i missed out.

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post Jan 26 2010, 12:13 PM

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uzu, nk ikut!
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QUOTE(signither @ Jan 26 2010, 12:13 PM)
uzu, nk ikut!
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post Jan 26 2010, 12:18 PM

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Yes the Zeiss Ikon is a film rangefinder.

Yes, you can 'push' film by processing it longer e.g. 8 minutes instead of 4 minutes. This was common practice with some black-and-white films which have no fixed ASA value but work approximately best at ASA400. Black-and-white films have the most flexibility; color negatives in between; color positive slide film has the lowest flexibility and latitude.

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Minolta 50mm F1.4 on Minolta Dynax 7 with Lucky ASA100

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Minolta 58mm F1.2 MD (modified mount) on Minolta Dynax 7 with Kodak BW 400 CN

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Vivitar 24mm F2.0 on Olympus OM-2000 with Kodak Gold ASA 400 (one of my favorite shots, with film you won't use burst mode)

Instead of noise it has grain and it usually looks alright.

Oh, and the Contax N Digital does look quite like the Konica Minolta 7 Digital:
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Here's the Nikon F4:
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And the Contax N Digital again:
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signither: No idea but when it was under warranty it was free. Let us know!

ReaperOfSoul: Your masking isn't done well. Use a gradient instead. Also, do multiple exposures instead of one RAW - that will increase tonality.

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QUOTE(shootkk @ Jan 26 2010, 09:41 AM)
I see that you have the A100. If you can live with that then any of the newer Alpha bodies will be great boost in performance for you.

What is the reason for jumping ship? Is there anything in the alpha mount that you want but cannot be provided for by Sony? If not then there's really no reason to jump.

Why I stuck to Sony:

1. I am not a high ISO pixel peeper thus all the Sony has poor high ISO performance crap does not affect me. With the A550, that argument is getting real old, real fast anyway.

2. The F58 flash - it is cheaper than the canikon's counterpart. It is more versatile and real fast in usage. Turning from landscape to portrait orientation is a SNAP, literally!!! I challenge any 580EXII and SB-900 users to beat the F58's speed in turning from landscape to portrait orientation without the use of any brackets. Problem is you will only miss it when it's not there.

3. Steady Shot Inside - all mountable lens (except for unchipped, manual focus lenses) stabilized! 'Nuff said.
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For APS-C bodies you will need 16mm for a proper wide angle. 18mm is like 28mm on a FF - acceptable but some of you would wish it was wider at times. 24mm on APS-C is cramped! 28mm? DO NOT even go there!

The 24mm and 28mm are for FF. I like 24mm better than 28mm - that's why the new 28-75mm F2.8 lens holds no interest for me. I would rather they have a 24-70mm F4 or even a 24-85mm f3.5-4.5 for a budget alternative to the 24-70mm f2.8 Zeiss.
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funny, i not sure bout albnok and CJlai, my fisheye is SSSed. ^^;

18mm is consider wide. because u still stand infront of all other compact camera to shoot group photo. and i always turn to 24(even apsc) to shoot, it is less distorted then 18mm.
16 and 18, a minor diff in space/area, but the distortion is big. sad.gif

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QUOTE(albnok @ Jan 26 2010, 12:18 PM)
Yes the Zeiss Ikon is a film rangefinder.

Yes, you can 'push' film by processing it longer e.g. 8 minutes instead of 4 minutes. This was common practice with some black-and-white films which have no fixed ASA value but work approximately best at ASA400. Black-and-white films have the most flexibility; color negatives in between; color positive slide film has the lowest flexibility and latitude.

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albnok! pushing the film in post-processing do not count as changing the ISO setting in the camera! laugh.gif tongue.gif
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QUOTE(vincyuee @ Jan 26 2010, 09:40 AM)
anyone can recommend lens that best for landscape and macro?
budget around Rm500 below or around.
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wah..very hard to satisfy,,especially the 500buck price tag

if ur macro means still life toy/flower..the closest i can think off is the sony 30 2.8...but if u wanna use it to shoot bugs..thats gonna be so dam challenging..
well..not very wide for landscape..but i cant think of anything else..lol


i think u can use ur kitlens(if any) to shoot landscape first..nothing wrong with that..when u have a zoom(i see u r buying a zoom) get a macro converter like Raynox 250...its very cheap..and it can last u awhile until u have the budget to buy a true macro lens..

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