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kysham
post Jan 21 2010, 10:27 PM

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MoO, someone had indeed shown some interest in that 70-200 of mine. In fact, 2 of them. Didn't you follow the thread in alphanatics? wink.gif

Time to de-mistify the myth about filters. Current crop of UV filters are mostly put in to do one thing only. And that is to protect the front element of the lens. So what about flare? Well, most of the time, the flare is caused by the filter's optics itself! So that is why modern UV filters have anti-flare coatings. That is also one of the reasons why if you are going to invest in UV filters, think carefully about your approach.

A good UV filter can cost upwards of RM150 (depending on brand and filter thread size). If you buy an inferior filter, you will be plagued by flare issues, as it is the inferior quality of cheap filters that is causing the flare. So essentially, if you do not use a filter, the flare problem will not come up. Now, the only question left is "Is the lens worth protecting?". If it is a kitlens, think how much will it cost to replace that kit lens. RM150 (for a 2nd hand SAL1870)? Would you protect a lens that is valued at RM150 with a filter that costs RM150? If me, I will not. If the lens get scratched pretty bad, then I just buy another kit lens. Or buy a replacement (such as the SAL1680Z) - which I will then protect with a RM200 UV filter.
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post Jan 21 2010, 10:49 PM

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QUOTE(noellee69 @ Jan 21 2010, 10:32 PM)
bro kysham, thanks for de-mistify smile.gif since the filter issue r raise, juz wish to know about their effect to the IQ, be it B+W, hoya or CZ smile.gif or they all juz the same which provide protection only? thanks smile.gif
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noellee69: All filters will decrease the IQ. It is just a matter how how badly it decreases the IQ. Good filters, like those from B+W, Hoya (btw, Hoya have a few grades of filters. the better ones are the Pro1D and the new HD series) and Sony's CZ filters tends to degrade the IQ far less compared to cheaper filters.

MechaHerc: I still love that photo of yours, even after seeing it a few times! notworthy.gif


OK, photo spam time. Here is another photo from Bali. Some HDR treatment done....

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post Jan 22 2010, 08:51 AM

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QUOTE(albnok @ Jan 22 2010, 01:50 AM)
kysham: Cheap filters cause flare but good filters can kill flare that shows on a naked lens; filters no matter what can cause ghosting in various levels.
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Well.... technically you are correct, albnok. I know my naked 50mm f1.7 flares like nobody's business. But I never put a good filter on that lens before...
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post Jan 22 2010, 02:43 PM

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You will need one of those low profile (read: THIN) filters to avoid vignetting. Try the Hoya Pro-1D. The HD version also quite good. But the problem is that the 16-80 is known to vignette at 16mm, even without a filter! *hehehe*
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post Jan 22 2010, 04:18 PM

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Go for the flash. For broader learning, go for at least the mid-range F42 flash. Don't get the F20 flash as you will be pretty limited. The F20 is more of a supplement flash rather than a full on external flash.
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post Jan 23 2010, 10:18 AM

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QUOTE(kmarc @ Jan 23 2010, 08:57 AM)
Thx. Difficult to find Hoya filters here in Sibu. Searched around and only see KEEP filters.  sweat.gif Imagine a KEEP UV filter 62mm for RM80..... no choice, had to buy as I wanted it fast to protect my front lens elements....  sad.gif

Going to search around garage sales for the Hoya CPL filter.

I have read on all those settings i.e. aperture/iso/DoF/Metering. Just that reading and practical is two BIG different things. Tried to play around with my camera's setting and got some awful pictures......  cry.gif
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kmarc, buy online. there are a few reputable sellers. i think yannick is one of them, selling B+W filters. ask him lah. KEEP is a cheap and not very good filter brand. it does the job of protecting the front element, but also at the same time degrade the IQ. want to know how much it degrades the IQ? simple take 2 shots. 1 with filter and the other without filter. You should be able to see the difference. If it is acceptable to you, then no need to buy another more expensive filter. wink.gif
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post Jan 25 2010, 10:42 AM

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OK, some pic spam. KL street shooting. Same group of people as Hokc, who put up his photos a few pages back.


#1 Upside down DBKL. biggrin.gif
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#2 Dark tunnel to KL Plaza. Someone called it the holy tunnel! hahaha...
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#3 Mirror Image, split by the joint of the glass window.
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post Jan 25 2010, 11:47 AM

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popfish: Go for the F42....
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post Jan 25 2010, 12:00 PM

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QUOTE(guitarleo @ Jan 25 2010, 11:54 AM)
I got me myself a SAL70300G.
THIS is AWESOME... ^^ haha~
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Congrats, bro! That is indeed an awesome lens!
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post Jan 25 2010, 07:18 PM

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QUOTE(achew @ Jan 25 2010, 06:57 PM)
to me its the background tht doesnt goes very well with the portrait..can i know whether its a backdrop or its post processed background?
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well, a professional photographer (who works for Reuters) once told us during a talk that "The background makes or breaks the photograph". I find that to be so true and I tried to stick to that nowadays.....
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post Jan 26 2010, 11:34 AM

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QUOTE(Braynumb @ Jan 26 2010, 11:12 AM)
waaa...  the contax N looks gorgeous! biggrin.gif a great collector's item... biggrin.gif btw, the Zeiss Icon is a film camera right? albert, with film cameras, if the film is ISO400, does it mean that i can't/shouldn't  set my camera to more than ISO400 or i can, but would cause noise?
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Bro, films have fixed ISO values. You cannot push the ISO values of film. If you increase the camera's ISO setting, you will only cause the shot to be underexposed (because the camera thinks you are using a higher ISO value film, but in actual fact you are not). Noise in DSLR is only relevant because it is digital noise. Film is analogue, so it doesn't have digital noise. Having said that, higher ISO films have grains.... these are very different than digital noise and in some cases is actually quite pleasing.

I remember I used to have ISO400 films and I have to store them in my fridge because at ambient temperature, the film will go haywire.... tongue.gif
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post Jan 26 2010, 12:27 PM

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QUOTE(albnok @ Jan 26 2010, 12:18 PM)
Yes the Zeiss Ikon is a film rangefinder.

Yes, you can 'push' film by processing it longer e.g. 8 minutes instead of 4 minutes. This was common practice with some black-and-white films which have no fixed ASA value but work approximately best at ASA400. Black-and-white films have the most flexibility; color negatives in between; color positive slide film has the lowest flexibility and latitude.

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albnok! pushing the film in post-processing do not count as changing the ISO setting in the camera! laugh.gif tongue.gif
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post Jan 26 2010, 01:42 PM

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braynumb: Congratulations on your shot being featured in dyxum! That really is something.
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post Jan 28 2010, 12:11 PM

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Dun believe in brand war. A camera is still just a tool. Canon is NOT the inventor of the camera anyway, so what makes him think that Canon is not a copycat in that sense? laugh.gif
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post Jan 28 2010, 11:39 PM

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a700 is still a very good body, even by today's standards. thumbup.gif
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post Jan 29 2010, 09:14 AM

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bro, just call the customer service. they will help you to register. they are very helpful. automatic help you extend your warranty as well. smile.gif
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post Jan 29 2010, 02:13 PM

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nose-bleeding again. hang on, isn't that last girl Crystel?
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post Jan 29 2010, 03:01 PM

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ahtsong, the CZ85 poison really kena you kaw-kaw ah? brows.gif
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post Jan 29 2010, 03:21 PM

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flash to get first, if you do not already have one. thumbup.gif
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post Jan 30 2010, 01:27 AM

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