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Photography The Sony Alpha Thread V36!, The Orange Legion
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neo_lam
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Jan 26 2010, 01:14 AM
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QUOTE(braindead_fr3ak @ Jan 26 2010, 01:12 AM) yea...i figured... i see that u are using a a700...same!  does the a700 low light performance compensate for the ziess "darkness" enough..... meaning if u shoot at iso400/800 , in low light, no flash, are the photos "professional"- all other things constant eg : skill, wb, aperture, yada yada professional - able to be convincingly beautiful(debatably i know), not noisy and sharp for me , using ISO 400/800 on a700 with zeiss is acceptable. just dont shoot on the area thts too dark. of coz frankly it totally cant compare with something using flash in low light....
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finejava
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Jan 26 2010, 01:16 AM
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braindead_fr3ak: 24-70/F2.8 or 85/F1.4 or 135 F1.8
confirm will perform in low light ...
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ky-l
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Jan 26 2010, 01:16 AM
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Getting Started

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QUOTE(neo_lam @ Jan 26 2010, 12:46 AM) spam one of my old pic being reedited....shot with 1680 » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Could have step a little on the left to allow the dock to be totally symmetrical. My 2 cents worth only though. Nice shot btw.
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braindead_fr3ak
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Jan 26 2010, 01:20 AM
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finejava :
24-70..not ideal range for a aps-c zoom.... effectively it would be 35-100?...not to mention its 5k ++ price....ahahha.... my percentage meter will NEVER reach 100% like that haha... and with regards to the others...erm... focusing on a zoom...not yet time to play with the danger-primes yet...
neo_lam.... any personal dissapointments against this lens?....i know the benefits...everywhere got... ahahah.... no worries..if really no light..then can flash mar... or tripod...its still better than the 1870 by LEAPS
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neo_lam
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Jan 26 2010, 01:21 AM
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QUOTE(ky-l @ Jan 26 2010, 01:16 AM) Could have step a little on the left to allow the dock to be totally symmetrical. My 2 cents worth only though. Nice shot btw. yep, but cant change the fact now, thanks for the critics.
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finejava
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Jan 26 2010, 01:23 AM
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braindead_fr3ak: i'm using the 24-70 on my a700...it's just nice...for a walkabout lens...better than having 16-35
my 2 cents
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braindead_fr3ak
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Jan 26 2010, 01:29 AM
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.. O_O.... very nice walkabout lens...easy to upgrade to ff also  good...but 2.5x the pricing.... very interesting..... u have many dangerous lenses...i shall not ask about the 85mm 1.4 ...... i shall not say a word.... problems would be the range as well as the "no wide shots" for zoom.... can u fit group shots in?
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finejava
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Jan 26 2010, 01:31 AM
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QUOTE(braindead_fr3ak @ Jan 26 2010, 01:29 AM) .. O_O.... very nice walkabout lens...easy to upgrade to ff also  good...but 2.5x the pricing.... very interesting..... u have many dangerous lenses...i shall not ask about the 85mm 1.4 ...... i shall not say a word.... problems would be the range as well as the "no wide shots" for zoom.... can u fit group shots in? sure...just need to take couple of steps back...that will do the trick...
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braindead_fr3ak
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Jan 26 2010, 01:33 AM
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i see.. 5.4k vs 2.5k... ahhaha..great..... ill start with the 16-80..i think the 24-70 is out of my budget..but oh ssm..and oh f2.8...
how is the sharpness at f2.8 by the way?
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lwliam
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Jan 26 2010, 01:33 AM
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Your friendly neighborhood photographer
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java, so another words, u have nothing wider than the 24mm now?
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finejava
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Jan 26 2010, 01:36 AM
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lwliam: yeap...sold of everything that i got previously...widest i have now is 24mm
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weixuan
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Jan 26 2010, 01:39 AM
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QUOTE(finejava @ Jan 26 2010, 01:23 AM) braindead_fr3ak: i'm using the 24-70 on my a700...it's just nice...for a walkabout lens...better than having 16-35 my 2 cents i would prefer having 16-35 as walkabout on an aps-c camera. perhaps because i prefer wider shots.
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braindead_fr3ak
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Jan 26 2010, 01:40 AM
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here i have the comparison chart... if used on apsc... the 24-70.....will give u 38mm?!?? ....hardly wide actually.. Attached thumbnail(s)
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lwliam
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Jan 26 2010, 01:40 AM
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Your friendly neighborhood photographer
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QUOTE(finejava @ Jan 26 2010, 01:36 AM) lwliam: yeap...sold of everything that i got previously...widest i have now is 24mm previously before i had my 11-18, the widest is 28 mm... its starting to get pretty restrictive after a while... when i got my UWA, everythings just frees up... feels so much more relaxed thats how i felt anyway
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braindead_fr3ak
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Jan 26 2010, 01:46 AM
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hmmm that is debatable lwliam....i actually dont really like distorted photos...i find them.......weird a bit ahahah...also fisheye is not to my taste...
if i can find the perfect focal range that begins JUST before distortion sets in....that would be my ideal wide!
so it depends on individual pref though...
given the choice(leave money out of the equation)..id gladly take the 24-70.... but funds dont allow....the f 2.8 and SSM would be PWNING!
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finejava
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Jan 26 2010, 01:46 AM
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braindead_fr3ak: this sharp...  lwliam, weixuan: i'm planning to upgrade to FF once the replacement for A900 comes out...so...just need to tahan till i get my FF... 24mm on FF should be comfortable enough...compare to aps-c lwliam: previously i had my sigma 10-20, 16-80 and 18-250...base exif...all my shots are usually taken avgly at 30-60mm...so...24-70 will fit my style just fine... This post has been edited by finejava: Jan 26 2010, 01:51 AM
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braindead_fr3ak
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Jan 26 2010, 01:49 AM
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i can see...ahahah from ur gears...u r just waiting to go FF...i on the other hand...prolly wont go..... i dont see the need...  how much did u purchase ur 24-70? and how do u find the focusing on the a700? fast ah...ahehehehheh
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lwliam
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Jan 26 2010, 01:52 AM
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Your friendly neighborhood photographer
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QUOTE(braindead_fr3ak @ Jan 26 2010, 01:46 AM) hmmm that is debatable lwliam....i actually dont really like distorted photos...i find them.......weird a bit ahahah...also fisheye is not to my taste... if i can find the perfect focal range that begins JUST before distortion sets in....that would be my ideal wide! so it depends on individual pref though... given the choice(leave money out of the equation)..id gladly take the 24-70.... but funds dont allow....the f 2.8 and SSM would be PWNING! i know what u mean when u say distorted, but sometimes in tight conditions it really saves the day (and even with pronounced distortion) it gives more kick than just any regular joe's photos. but it of coz boils down to preference. QUOTE(braindead_fr3ak @ Jan 26 2010, 01:49 AM) i can see...ahahah from ur gears...u r just waiting to go FF...i on the other hand...prolly wont go..... i dont see the need...  how much did u purchase ur 24-70? and how do u find the focusing on the a700? fast ah...ahehehehheh out of my 5 lenses, 4 of them are FFs too... i can still wait...
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finejava
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Jan 26 2010, 01:52 AM
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QUOTE(braindead_fr3ak @ Jan 26 2010, 01:49 AM) i can see...ahahah from ur gears...u r just waiting to go FF...i on the other hand...prolly wont go..... i dont see the need...  how much did u purchase ur 24-70? and how do u find the focusing on the a700? fast ah...ahehehehheh rm5800 + rm300 for my zeiss filter... SSM on a700...SUPERBLY fast and quite...
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lwliam
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Jan 26 2010, 01:54 AM
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Your friendly neighborhood photographer
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QUOTE(finejava @ Jan 26 2010, 01:46 AM) braindead_fr3ak: this sharp... » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « lwliam, weixuan: i'm planning to upgrade to FF once the replacement for A900 comes out...so...just need to tahan till i get my FF... 24mm on FF should be comfortable enough...compare to aps-c lwliam: previously i had my sigma 10-20, 16-80 and 18-250...base exif...all my shots are usually taken avgly at 30-60mm...so...24-70 will fit my style just fine... 24 on FF is like 16 on apsc... do sony have 14-24 like canon and nikon does with their trinity?
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