Grimm:

You are very unlikely to grab any attention from the big IBs with just an okay eca to be honest, when I mentioned impressive, I'm referring to stuff like president of student organization in not only uni, but also state and even national level. And yes, I somehow remember seeing one of the IB career website saying explicitly that they do prefer double degree or at least an Honours degree.

Big four banks aren't easy at all either, a friend of mine who got into St. George's grad program (a local) told me that they only took in 7 people for the entire NSW in 2009 recruitment and there were hundreds if not thousands of applications submitted. And it's even harder in a sense that there is not a statement from the bank saying that they will accept international students except for ANZ if I remember correctly.

Seriously, given your situation I would more than likely to be return to Malaysia upon graduate, if extending for 1 more year to do Honours is not an economically viable option to you. Just my 2 cents worth.

Just want to ask yea, in melbourne, whats d best way to access the internet? Should i subscribe to a broadband provider(any reccomendations?) or just use the uni internet? =P

@darkconfidant

strange question. i think the question you need to ask is... "do i want internet in my house or not?" and then go from there. the internet is the same whether at uni or at home. except that uni's usually got a cap on usage per user.

It helps a lot if you have internet access at home. Many things are done over the internet in Australia; be it banking and finances, payment of bills, applications for visas/permits/licenses/property leases.

Check the first post for guide to ISPs.

Too much propaganda going on. Malaysia has her flaws, but she's not going to collapse tomorrow or anything like that. It's still a functional country, you know. There are many good companies you can work for with your qualifications. If you can't secure a position with a top firm in Malaysia (have you tried?), THEN you should worry because your chances may be even slimmer in Australia. Your parent's friends are probably gloating over their ability to migrate at the expense of others' misfortunes (or not!).
On a more serious note, have you calculated your points and assessed if you have sufficient points to apply. If you do, then I don't understand the problem because you should be able to attain a PR eventually, except there may be a delay in your application (does it really matter in the short term???)

This post has been edited by chris_c28: Jan 28 2010, 04:46 PM

btw, in order to get PR, you must at least have 2 years study in australia.l.if u got enough points but not meet the 2 years study requirement, you still cant go for pr...

that is INCORRECT.........

the 2 years of onshore study is only for eligibility to apply for the 18 months bridging temporary resident visa, which allows you to stay on in oz and work........even if you get that, you will still need to formally apply for a skilled migrant pr visa........

on the other hand, you do NOT need to even have studied in oz, to be potentially have the required points to apply for pr.........many people apply and have successfully obtained a pr visa from outside oz..........

o issit?
my bad then
i just asuming student who applying for pr n wat i heard from student tht apply pr too

...the future of malaysia is in the hands of its rakyat and if everyone thinks that the country is going to the dumps then its a really sad thing. before you make the decision you should go meet your parents friends. the ones from the emails. no offence to your parents friends or your parents but you should really ask them for both sides of the stories. usually people will omit all the negative things they are faced with and only share the good things. personally through my experience, malaysia is still my favorite place to live. if you ever do decide to migrate though, never give up your malaysian citizenship.

if your budget is not tight, get a broandband provider. Uni internet usually filter out a list of websites that dont allow users to download files or visit it.

You should enjoy things which u cant do it in Malaysia, the Internet Speed (Streamyx 4mb so expensive).

A lot of students, as far as im concerned, most of my friends either use the service of TPG or iinet. You can check it out on the website itself about the rates. After currency conversion off course its expensive but still better than streamyx 4mb with such price.

So many want to get out of Malaysia & run to Australia for better prospect etc... No offense, but its own will & future..

the question post here is; How you guys sure Australia is a safe heaven bet that you feel you are well treated?

Overall, Aust education is going a major overhaul same as their Health sector...again the rising dollar...
many issue arise, asylum seekers etc..
Indian student half out after the racism...
if you are to retire & having family here, the cost is going up..n up..
even more than if you had in msia..

Is Msia that worst? besides the current political climate?

I fully agree and can understand your point of view.

I believe that most people who intend to move over to Australia can neither answer any of your question nor guarantee that at some point, come back to Malaysia eventually.

But because of the current political situation, most people are not willing to stay to find out. By then, it will already be too late for them and their family.

If, IF malaysia can clean up its own act in, say 10 years time..there will probably be less people wanting to migrate.

it's not a must. but it is very useful cos it gives 15-25 points for your application

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Added on January 29, 2010, 6:23 am@Grimm -

i dont know how well off your family is, but if 130k is not a problem then go for hons or even masters. but bear in mind the changes that immigration can make within the 1 year or so of the duration of your honours. bit of a gamble. the same can happen if u choose to go back and work but at least instead of spending money u will be earning some and in the process kickstart your career. but also consider the fact that onshore applicants get more priority in their application.

but think if it's absolutely necessary to sacrifice so much just to work in aus? if ur thinking of working a few yrs in aus and then going back to malaysia with a shitload of moolah i suggest u forget it, cos as a fresh grad u wont be earning enough to make it worthwhile anyway.

if ur thinking of bringing your family over it will take yearsss and that is assuming your folks dont mind adapting to the change in lifestyle at their age and assuming that immigration doesnt change any of their guidelines. and since u wont get HECS as a PR your bro will still need to pay full fees for his education so no cheaper there.

if your family doesnt need u for support, the cheapest option is to get a temporary resident visa and do shit here for 1.5 years, work, get enough points for PR or decide what u wana do.




This post has been edited by b3ta: Jan 29 2010, 06:23 AM

imho, the australian education system is very good because the lecturers are actually getting paid what they deserve, but as for their work structure im not too sure. maybe for the short run it would be good to work in australia but i believe it would be difficult to start a life in australia unless you have lots of money. tax is high, along with rent and utilities and such. it would be difficult because no matter how long you stay there, you would be seen as first generation and thus seen as a second class citizen and it would be difficult for someone to get a house, or loans and such esp after the crisis. i dunno if the guy is being supported by his family or not while he is living there, but if i was his parents i would stop sending money once he started working just so he can be independant. its a difficult decision for me/you/his/her/them and lots of things need to be considered.

i think the politics in malaysia suck and sometimes get carried away on unimportant issues, but its not really affecting my way of life much at all in malaysia other than a few price increases once in a while which is common in any country. i dunno why people wanna run away for but it does give good topics for discussion.

Far better than having 10 medical schools sprout out of nowhere for the monies of desperate parents wanting their beloved child to be a doctor, at any cost.

And the rising dollar? It will find its equilibrium. A rising dollar only affects the exporters. As consumers, it is actually a boon, as imports become cheaper, holidays are more affordable.


Far better than the unchecked number of illegal immigrants roaming the streets of Malaysia, committing crimes and getting away with it. with some of them becoming citizens with full bumiputera rights.


Is it any different from the 2 million Malaysians that have emigrated out of Malaysia due to racism at all levels, from your school to your work to when you buy a house?

Frankly, only a few Indian nationals out of the 234,718 in Australia are targeted, and it is a national calamity for overseas Indians. Don't get me wrong, I condemn any kind of unprovoked attack, and I will not be silent if there were targeted attacks on Malaysians, but I personally think it is far better than being discriminated and "attacked" wholesale by the government itself.

At least the Australian authorities (publicly at least) acknowledge there is a problem; a solution is a separate matter altogether. In Bolehland? This joke gives an idea how racism is treated in Malaysia:



I'm not so sure about that. When my workmate started the same job I'm doing, he got RM1200/month. 12 years later, the starting salary of a fresh grad network administrator is still ~RM1200. RM1500 tops if you're lucky. Thats just a 12% salary increase over 12 years, Who believes the inflation rate in Malaysia is around 2% a year?

Retire? My grandfather, a long time senior government servant, scrapes by with a pension allocated to him in the 1980's. Suffice to say, you can't survive in 2010 with a 1980's cash inflow.
No, Malaysia is not "that worst", and I still call Malaysia home. So do many Malaysians overseas who hold Permanent Residency in their new adopted country hanging on to their Malaysian Passport. There are some things going for Malaysia: food for instance, and if there is one thing that Malaysia does not lack, it is water. But some things are done differently in other places, and some things are done better.

I do not think that Australia without flaws: it is a bit too Right leaning for my liking in certain aspects, through less Right than Malaysia. But I will bet the same question was going through the minds of many Malaysians who trace their roots from elsewhere. If China was that great and grand, why did they leave? If Malaysia is so nice, why do all of us know a relative/friend who have emigrated elsewhere?

Call me amnesiac but I do not recall universities offering twinning/transfer to Australia including the cost of student's insurance in the whole scheme. (inclusive of course fees et-cetera)

In case of any doubt, probably it'll be advisable for all prospective/current students in Australia (on a Students Visa) to renew/obtain a insurance cover.

It is compulsory and it is deemed to be against your visa requirement if you do not have an up-to-date insurance cover during your stay here in Australia.

OSHC provides the necessary insurance cover during your stay in Australia.

yes, you are right.

OSHC isn't affiliated with universities (but if i'm not wrong, monash offers a percentage discount off due to their strategic partnership et cetera)

i thought it is automatically renewed every year, and the uni will pay for it in advance, and the costs be included in your tuition fees. so if u dont pay for oshc u can consider urself indebted to the uni and wont be able to sit for exams/view results etc

Im going 2 Oz dis Feb and i actually had pay for all 3 years of OSHC in 1 lump sum as part of the fee requirements

differs from uni to uni. I'm paying for 1 year health cover in UTAS, while back in UWA I paid everything in one go. =)