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post Jan 17 2010, 12:26 PM

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australian immigration is being sucky towards graduates now. this is freakin unfair.
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post Jan 17 2010, 07:14 PM

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QUOTE(limeuu @ Jan 17 2010, 08:48 PM)
it happens in cycles........there was an economic downturn last year, and policies were set in place which will now affect graduates who wants to stay on.....

so what are they doing to you?.....
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theyre closing the window. i might as well go back than staying on gambling on whether they will chg the guidelines further
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post Jan 19 2010, 05:25 AM

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QUOTE(limeuu @ Jan 17 2010, 10:34 PM)
you are still eligible for the 18 mths bridging visa, no?........i am not aware that has been removed..........but it may take a while to get it, somebody just got it after 6 months, she was stuck in oz with a temporary visa which does not allow you to leave............
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yup im on that visa now. but 18 mths...pfft...during which time they can change the guidelines however they want once they think of a better way to select migrants. rclxub.gif
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post Jan 19 2010, 09:53 PM

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QUOTE(limeuu @ Jan 19 2010, 11:20 AM)
if you have a full time job relevant to your qualification, you should have enough points to start applying for a pr..........and as far as i know, the points, and conditions have not changed, just the 'shortage professions' lists........which of course will change depending on labour conditions......
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there have been a couple of changes within these few mths alone. with the new changes it requires graduates to receive their degree assessment results before submitting the application but as far as i remember u need to have a copy of your cert to be able to do the assessment, which means u need to graduate 1st. most student visas dont hold out that long. this probably means those who want to apply for a PR will need to apply for a TR 1st.

i bet there will be more changes during these 18 mths. the processing period has been increased too in these few mths with the priority processing.

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post Jan 19 2010, 11:52 PM

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QUOTE(limeuu @ Jan 20 2010, 01:58 AM)
of course you need to graduate first before applying for any visa other than your student visa.........

as i understand it, you will have a few months of student visa left after graduating.......and you can then initiate your application for the bridging visa, and will be given a temporary visa while waiting for the bridging visa to be processed.........you can stay on, do part time work, look for a permanent job etc, but will not be able to leave oz while on this temporary visa.........

once your 18 mths bridging visa is approved, then you have that 1 1/2 years to get enough points and start applying for a pr visa........and you can also leave and return to oz anytime.......

the pr processing takes time, i am not sure what happens if your bridging visa runs out and your pr is not approved yet..........
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not true. most people try to send an application in before they graduate. but it's hard now that the requirements changed. before this they only needed to provide evidence of their degree assessment application. now they want the results in before they proceed with the processing.

most student visas expire in march when the student completes his studies in december the previous year after the finals. most unis graduation ceremonies will only take place in mar/april afaik. the degree assessment will take about a month after u send the assessment application in, which means april/may, at the earliest.

and on a bridging visa u can leave australia as long as u apply for a bridging visa B which allows u to return to your home country in the event of emergencies. that will cost u 60 bucks.

a bridging visa is also indefinite. that means it will never run out until your application is approved or rejected. if rejected, u will be given 1 mth to gtfo or apply for another visa.

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post Jan 20 2010, 08:32 PM

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QUOTE(StarGhazzer @ Jan 20 2010, 09:03 PM)
I'm not sure about other professions, but for my course I can actually send in the application for temporary business visa (457) before I graduate. The application would be pending and once you graduate you need to supply them with proof of your degree/certificate and you'll get your visa approved within a few days, probably even the immediate next day.

For those who will be applying, it's better to check with Immigration or any Visa agents regarding this issue. It would be so much easier and faster to submit the application early (eg September or Oct) if possible, instead of waiting till the end of the year. Bear in mind that the last 2 weeks of December would be hell as everybody is on leave for Christmas and New Year... Everything will be in slow motion.
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does your 457 require an assessment of your degree? if not good on ya. but you need a job/internship offer by an employer


QUOTE(StarGhazzer @ Jan 20 2010, 10:40 PM)
Who knows why it is called "business" visa, but it's merely a nomenclature issue.

I'm not sure how easy/difficult it is to apply for a temporary visa (?short stay ?visitor pass) without a confirmed employment, but good luck to those who are attempting to do so. For most students their student visa would end around March so after graduation you'll have approximately 2-3 months to find a job and obtain visas and such.
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the temporary visa (TR) requires an assessment of your degree, not sure if u need the results before applying or not, but i dont think so. it's easy provided that u have an australian degree and have completed a minimum of 2 years of study in australia within 6 mths of application.

but yeah this new guideline has screwed a lot of onshore graduate applicants. they will need to apply for a TR 1st before going for a PR cos theres just not enough time on their student visa to wait for their degree assessment results.

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post Jan 20 2010, 11:58 PM

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QUOTE(limeuu @ Jan 21 2010, 01:06 AM)
actually, what is the purpose of this 'assessment' of your degree?...........since applicants will be graduates from oz unis anyway.......

in star's case, no he will not need 'assessment' as his degree will need to be (and will be) registered with amc before he can start work........it normally flows seamlessly from graduation to housejob as part of the registration process with amc...........
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i dont know if AMC is the relevant authority for degree assessment. if yes, then he probably wont need to do it twice. if not, he will need to submit it through to the relevant authorities for assessment if he wants to apply for a TR or PR visa. it is just strictly for immigration purposes.

cos to get marks for immigration your degree commonly awards u 40-70 points out of the 100/120 points needed for PR. each course will differ in the amount of points u earn. most engineers will earn 60 while food science and biomed guys like me only get 50. the assessment is to justify whether your degree is qualified to earn you your points. it also plays a role in determining whether the job u get is relevant to your studies. cos to qualify for more points through employment you need to hold a job that is relevant to your qualifications.

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post Jan 29 2010, 05:54 AM

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QUOTE(hihihehe @ Jan 28 2010, 08:29 PM)
o issit?
my bad then
i just asuming student who applying for pr n wat i heard from student tht apply pr too
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it's not a must. but it is very useful cos it gives 15-25 points for your application


Added on January 29, 2010, 6:23 am@Grimm -

i dont know how well off your family is, but if 130k is not a problem then go for hons or even masters. but bear in mind the changes that immigration can make within the 1 year or so of the duration of your honours. bit of a gamble. the same can happen if u choose to go back and work but at least instead of spending money u will be earning some and in the process kickstart your career. but also consider the fact that onshore applicants get more priority in their application.

but think if it's absolutely necessary to sacrifice so much just to work in aus? if ur thinking of working a few yrs in aus and then going back to malaysia with a shitload of moolah i suggest u forget it, cos as a fresh grad u wont be earning enough to make it worthwhile anyway.

if ur thinking of bringing your family over it will take yearsss and that is assuming your folks dont mind adapting to the change in lifestyle at their age and assuming that immigration doesnt change any of their guidelines. and since u wont get HECS as a PR your bro will still need to pay full fees for his education so no cheaper there.

if your family doesnt need u for support, the cheapest option is to get a temporary resident visa and do shit here for 1.5 years, work, get enough points for PR or decide what u wana do.




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post Jan 29 2010, 12:36 PM

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QUOTE(-Jonathan- @ Jan 29 2010, 03:20 PM)
Call me amnesiac but I do not recall universities offering twinning/transfer to Australia including the cost of student's insurance in the whole scheme. (inclusive of course fees et-cetera)

In case of any doubt, probably it'll be advisable for all prospective/current students in Australia (on a Students Visa) to renew/obtain a insurance cover.

It is compulsory and it is deemed to be against your visa requirement if you do not have an up-to-date insurance cover during your stay here in Australia.

OSHC provides the necessary insurance cover during your stay in Australia.
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i thought it is automatically renewed every year, and the uni will pay for it in advance, and the costs be included in your tuition fees. so if u dont pay for oshc u can consider urself indebted to the uni and wont be able to sit for exams/view results etc
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post Feb 3 2010, 12:03 AM

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never got my electronics checked. i feel that aus customs are more lax than malaysian ones.
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post Feb 3 2010, 07:16 PM

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QUOTE(DaViDcHiN @ Feb 3 2010, 09:03 PM)
Getting really close to my departure now, does anyone has a checklist on what to bring and what not to bring?

Just worry that I might forget to bring something important. biggrin.gif

Did you guys bring over your birthday cert as well? How about driving license?
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HAHA other than ur important documents and stuff like drivers license (cos u can use ur malaysian license to drive here) and of course cash, anything else is practically non-essential and can be bought here. so no worries. tip - try not to convert everything to RM and u'll be fine. smile.gif


Added on February 3, 2010, 7:17 pm
QUOTE(k-ivy @ Feb 3 2010, 08:24 PM)
thanks =)

any temporary accommodation suggestion for my dad?
and and..
do we actually need to bring kitchen utensils over there?
is it expensive over there?
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what kinda utensils. just get it here la. u cant bring sharp objects on the plane anyway hmm.gif

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post Feb 3 2010, 11:18 PM

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QUOTE(D_s_X @ Feb 4 2010, 01:53 AM)
Hello everyone =)
I was wondering is there some sort of rule on bringing textbooks over there?
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as long as it's original tongue.gif
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post Feb 4 2010, 04:34 AM

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im driving with my full license and i dont use a translation. got stopped once for breath test. police didnt say anything smile.gif
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post Feb 4 2010, 06:45 PM

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QUOTE(hihihehe @ Feb 4 2010, 08:55 PM)
winter is not so cold compare to other europe places except the wind
the wind can make u moody..lol
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i dont mind the wind. it's the early sunset that gets to me hmm.gif
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post Feb 6 2010, 07:29 PM

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QUOTE(tsm @ Feb 6 2010, 06:18 PM)
Watch the fuel price carefully. I notice that every Wed or Thurs is the lowest rate. I not sure true or not blush.gif
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yeah it's the cheapest wed nights. currently around sydney the prices are around low 1.2x round weds and around 1.3x on thurs
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post Feb 7 2010, 09:37 AM

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u can choose to be bound for less than 2 years if u take up somebody's mobile plan

that being said

anyone wana take up my plan? im planning on going back soon n i have around 1 year left on my 3 mobile $29cap. i'll give u the E63 as well as maybe some cash too laugh.gif
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QUOTE(hihihehe @ Feb 8 2010, 04:41 AM)
"Foreign students who have a qualification for an occupation no longer considered in demand will get to apply for a temporary 18-month visa, allowing them to gain work experience.

The 18 months will also give a foreign graduate time in which to find an employer willing to sponsor their application as a skilled migrant."

the statement above means can work as 20 hours per week or full time?
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can work full time
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post Feb 16 2010, 07:25 PM

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any gig goers here? who's gona be at soundwave/sidewaves?
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post Feb 17 2010, 01:25 AM

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QUOTE(DaViDcHiN @ Feb 17 2010, 01:43 AM)
Anyone signed up the Iphone 3gs with 3?

My visa is only 1 year, can I sign 24 months contract?

What I heard is that as long as I have 1 year visa, they will let me sign 24 months contract, my friend's friend get an Iphone and left the country in 1 year, means still got another 12 months. That is in Melbourne, but then I asked a Vodafone dealer, the guy said, if I have 1 year, they can only provide me 12 month contact with higher cap for sure.

Mmm...anyone can help clarifying?
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how did ur friend settle his cap? pay the cancelling fees? or...
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if they blacklist ur identity based on ur passport number u will get a new passport with a different number after a few years right. so the blacklist will only be for a few years? hmm.gif

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