Really? Haven't tried PB12-NSD before... Is it base on the shootout, articles reading or just assumption?

Paradigm DSP-3400 = RM3800(Miri price) - 300Watts - 14"

SVS PB12-NSD = RM3750(KL price not including shipping to Miri yet) - 325Watt - 14"

SVS PB12-Plus : RM6,599(KL price not including shipping to Miri yet) 525Watts - 12.5"

If you read my test of both the SVS PC12+ Vs Paradigm DSP-3400 , I can say that the Paradigm DSP-3400 is just as good as the PC12+ for RM2600 less.

Yes, subwoofer test is no easy task, but during my listening with both sub, we place the sub at the same location and adjusted to the same output level. And btw, my Pc12+ was at 12 o'clock all the time during the test while the Paradigm DSP-3400 was only set at 10:30 position. I am happy to say that the Paradigm DSP-3400 can keep up with the PC12+ on all the test. Although I mention that the PC12+ may have a slight edge over Paradigm DSP-3400, that difference is really not much. But when comparing the price, the Paradigm DSP-3400 is RM2600 cheaper. I would buy the Paradigm DSP-3400 if I have to choose between to 2 subs again simply because I can save a lot of money yet I get a great sub.

Base on my listening Paradigm DSP-3400 Vs SVS PB12-Plus, I seriously doubt that the SVS PB12-NSD can compete with the Paradigm DSP-3400. So if you are comparing between Paradigm DSP-3400(RM3800) VS SVS PB12-NSD(RM3750), I think the Paradigm DSP-3400 would clearly outperform the NSD by a big margin for the same price.

For those who are SVS loyalist, go ahead and spend more on the SVS. For me I have listen for 2 hours with both and I am happy with both.

This post has been edited by lightning69: Jul 20 2010, 10:42 PM

Paradigm FTW!!!!!

I rest my case Have to ask mr Loud Boomy Boom Boom to look for this liao....

no point arguing lar....each person have their own preferential, that's why still got people paying 20k for a sub-woofer and 100k for a pair of speakers..

And I think lightning got his PC12+ on the cheap without having to pay any tax....I wonder how much the DSP-3400 selling price will be without tax??

I think the DSP-3400 is actually 14".

Also, what is good about it is the option for the PBK. Any idea how much the PBK costs here?

This post has been edited by jchong: Jul 20 2010, 05:23 PM

what title you want to test? audio calibration tones ok?

Want to try out some crazy low LFE? Try out Iron Man walking out from the cave. For LFE mid punch, try out Dark Knight where batman punching Joker's thug at the party. You can really feel the punch in your chest.

Why is this tax issue always in discussion??? I did get my svs cheap but my comparison of the 2 subs is base solely on malaysian price.

The above price for the Paradigm and SVS are all Malaysian price for fair comparison. The DSP-3400 is RM3800 right here in Miri and you don't have to pay any shipping to your door step. If anybody are willing to pay Rm6599 for the PB12+, then by all means go and buy it. I have heard the DSP-3400 and I think anyone who want some serious bass should go check it out and it won't hurt your wallet too!

Bro, Ip Man 2 is worth mentioning too When Twister landed those bone-crushing blows on Hung, it is This is where to lousy door busted open by the air pressure.

I have to watch WOTW. Heard that the pod emerges from the soil is another jaw dropping ULF scene. Have you try it out? I bet your whole room should be having massive tremors as if the pod in your room

Tested IP Man2 yesterday night but only mkv with DTS. There is a lot of low rumbling bass during the fight scenes in the ring.

First time I hear my sub bottom out. I think need EQ to tune down some freq a bit. I can't use audysey MultiEQ XT as it some how constraint the sound of my speaker. The bass boost for MultiEQ XT also is crazy high matching 10hz at 105db (I think my sub start to bottom when hitting 10hz - 15hz at 110db.

Will borrow EQ1 from Anfieldude to see if it help to tame the sub. eD A7s-650 is a beast but need some control from EQ. Will post my REW graph later.

waiting to see your REW graphs, shd be awesome! can show the waterfall chart as well?

What movie and what level were you playing at when your ED bottomed out?

You mean the MultEQ XT constrains the sound of your ED or your JTR?

Iron Man when walking out from the cave, I believe my gain is mismatch to my receiver sub out. At -5db on my receiver, my ED bottom out. If I turn down to -12db, then the thumping stop. REW test tone at -5db at my receiver will bottom out my sub too. That's when it hit 110db from 10hz to 20hz with audyssey engage.

MultiEQ XT constrain JTR speakers. I heard similar reports in avsforum.

Graph posted in eD DIY thread.

This post has been edited by pierreye: Jul 21 2010, 12:59 PM

If DSP-3400 is really selling at RM3,800, it is very very attractive price considering its performance & its 14-inch driver at sub RM4k price range.

But I seriously doubt you can find it at this price range beside probably in Miri. Velodyne CH-12Q is retailing in the region of RM3k to RM3.5k in Kuching. I still think it will be a steal to get a fully imported 14'' sub from Canada at below RM4k. I would wish to visit the AV shop in Miri and maybe can get some other equipments real cheap.

DSP-3400 list price in US is $950 (RM3,135)
Street price cheapest is $560 (RM1,848)

with the 65lbs weight...shipping can calculate from there....
so if the unit can sell at RM3.8k here, it's very near to US list price and a good value if compare to list price, but if compare to street price....then , I can only say that everything in Malaysia is demn overprice!!!

Hey mpyw, do you feel sad or not since both our SVS PC-12plus are almost on par with Paradigm DSP-3400 for a much lower price??

Couldn't agree more, everything in Malaysia is damn expensive yet our currency is so small...

Tat's why i can said MALAYSIA BOLE

Earn half from everybody else but pay double price. So in actual fact we are 1/4 spending power compare to other advance country. Also, we always get second grade items. Ask Panasonic on their V model compare to US/UK. What to do, our minister all 3rd grade.

This post has been edited by pierreye: Jul 21 2010, 08:41 PM