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 The Official Subwoofer Thread v3, Everything you need to know about bass!

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jchong
post Jan 2 2010, 12:09 PM

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Found a post on AVS about the Paradigm Sub 25's output:

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The SPL figures below are from anechoic measurements. For in-room response add 3 dB per nearby boundary, so if the sub is in a corner add 9 dB to all the numbers (that's where the data sheet's 125 dB of clean in-room bass comes from).

The Sub 25 puts out 9 Hz cleanly up to around 89 dB - after that it's limited by the DSP. We could make it go louder but it won't be clean. This is still better than not having 9 Hz response at all, and it's not like some manufacturers who say that if you input 8 Hz you'll get 120 dB out when what they're not saying is that it's loaded with distortion and/or containing no fundamental tone to speak of. From 17 Hz and up Sub 25 output is linear up to 108 dB. Beyond that the DSP rolls off the deepest bass off and the remainder goes up to 116 dB cleanly.


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post Jan 3 2010, 09:41 AM

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For that price the Sub 25 better be an impressive performer smile.gif

Yeah, still in a dilemma.
jchong
post Jan 3 2010, 11:58 AM

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QUOTE(logit85 @ Jan 3 2010, 11:44 AM)
sub 25 what price
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Why don't you call the distributor and find out.
jchong
post Jan 3 2010, 01:11 PM

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QUOTE(geforce1999 @ Jan 3 2010, 11:59 AM)
You forgot, logit rather email to them instead. tongue.gif
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post Jan 6 2010, 11:49 AM

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QUOTE(arremie @ Jan 5 2010, 01:42 PM)
then what r u doing here? laugh.gif
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post Jan 6 2010, 03:23 PM

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QUOTE(htkaki @ Jan 6 2010, 03:06 PM)
Here's a review of 3 traditional subs and  3 modern (compact) subs by the renown Brent Butterworth in S&V Nov 2009.

However, I could not find this article on S&V web anymore. Is there a possibility that it was being pulled out of S&V website? My guess is that one of the heavy advertisers might have give an earful or whatever to S&V. If that's true, then it is sad (but, it's a reality of life) that S&V is going down the What Hi-Fi crap road. 

Below are large files, so might take time to load.

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Axiom Audio EP600v 2, Bag End PD12E-1 & JL Audio Fathom f112
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PSB Subseries 500, SVSound PB12-Plus & Velodyne Optimum-12 (SPL1200Ultra in Asia)
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Interesting how he classifies traditional = big and modern = small. It is not a surprise that all the traditionals got the "S&V Certified and Recommended" chop.
jchong
post Jan 7 2010, 09:48 AM

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QUOTE(dirtrun @ Jan 6 2010, 08:47 PM)
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He is .. apparently changin to sealed subs now..
In fact a few of them hv .. uhm how do u say 'outgrown' from svs..

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jchong
post Jan 8 2010, 07:32 AM

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QUOTE(the jazzman @ Jan 8 2010, 12:11 AM)
tks for the comment.. not really loud sound good.. afraid mother in law later kapak my sub if the house suddenly shake.. huhu
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Thankfully loudness is something you can control using the volume knob. But if you can't play loud, then also no point getting a very powerful sub.
jchong
post Jan 14 2010, 02:07 PM

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Wow, it is very small if can fit under a mouse.

Do let us know after you install it and tested.
jchong
post Jan 15 2010, 10:13 AM

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QUOTE(w00lvie @ Jan 15 2010, 10:03 AM)
htkaki... thanks... but where normally is KLAV held coz never been to one before.  and is it easily accessible, coz im not from KL.  tongue.gif
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I think it is normally held in JW Marriott hotel.
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post Jan 21 2010, 09:15 PM

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I don't remember any thump with my previous Velo 12Q. Also no thump with my Rythmik.

Anyway, seems some have and some don't.
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post Jan 23 2010, 12:59 PM

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QUOTE(lightning69 @ Jan 22 2010, 09:10 PM)
I hope this sub give the SVS a run for its money.  Just wanna have good competition so price will come down.  Its like politic where you need strong opposition to keep the gov't from abusing its power!
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Ha-ha, you make it sound as if SVS is monopolizing the market. Don't you realize there is so much competition out there? Aside from Epik there are so many other sub brands. As it is the existing competition is what enables us to get good value subs. If we only had to rely on the mainstream commercial brands we'd have to pay more.


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QUOTE(ronaldjoe @ Jan 23 2010, 12:30 PM)
Sigh... Check on fedex site, it's usd 1k for shipping. anyone got jalan to bring it back?
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I think that is the rate for one time customers. If the vendor has volume definitely it will be negotiated much lower.

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post Jan 23 2010, 07:29 PM

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QUOTE(ar188 @ Jan 23 2010, 06:29 PM)
is this better than pb13?
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It's a promising sub, could potentially rival PB13 but no field reports yet.
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post Mar 29 2010, 04:06 PM

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QUOTE(sKyWiR3pT3lTd @ Mar 29 2010, 03:56 PM)
Whose CT Seong? PM him for pricing?
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There's a forummer going by the handle CT Seong, who works with A&L Bangsar.
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post Mar 29 2010, 04:07 PM

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QUOTE(htkaki @ Mar 29 2010, 02:08 PM)
Speaking of Emotiva, they did not bother to reply my e-mail after the product was delivered with a t-shirt missing. Not being particular abt the t-shirt, but at least have the courtesy to reply. So much so for their after sales service.

Mr Tan got so pissed with their delay in reply for XPA-2 that he decided not to buy from them.
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Seems Emotiva needs to buck up their communications.
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post Mar 29 2010, 06:06 PM

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QUOTE(htkaki @ Mar 29 2010, 04:12 PM)
Welcome back, bro  smile.gif

Yes, indeed disappointing. I wonder what will happen if any of our power amps blows off. It could possibly be a long wait. In saprozeldo's case, he need to call them at midnight to get the quote during the promo as they did not reply his few e-mails.

Btw, have you been able to re-position your F15?
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Been so occupied haven't played with my HT at all in March.
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post Apr 26 2010, 02:41 PM

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QUOTE(logit85 @ Apr 25 2010, 11:59 PM)
why cannot pinjam let say u can come my house then u can bring subwoofer pb13-ultra i test sound bass
then u can take out can ?
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post Jun 29 2010, 05:16 PM

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Yeah I would also agree with the suggestion to get a sub. Firstly, to solve the 80Hz crossover from your AVR and the missing .1 LFE channel and secondly also to get the really low bass.

Although your S606 has the 8" passive woofer, it still cannot produce the low bass that a true subwoofer can. Means you're missing out on a lot of the "boom". Adding a sub will add a whole new dimension to your system.
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post Jun 30 2010, 02:23 PM

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QUOTE(ambg @ Jun 30 2010, 01:05 PM)
Then will there be any options for ard 3K on subwoofer?

Btw what is ID companies imply in the statement,"ID companies seem to produce good subs that are much better priced"?

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ID = Internet Direct. Most of these brands sell direct via their website (no retail store) in USA. Cut out middleman so will be cheaper. Of course as some expand overseas (like SVS) they will appoint local distributor to offer support.

Check with htkaki what is available around 3k.
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post Jun 30 2010, 09:01 PM

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QUOTE(nders @ Jun 30 2010, 06:45 PM)
KL can get lots I presume... but I'm in backwater Kuching where only those sharks hifi shops lurk around waiting to chop ppl... so I'm finding it hard to get an active sub...

any reputable shops that's willing to ship here?
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As anfieldude suggested pm forumer junwei, he has a shop in Kuching.

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