All in including sub (US$1,495) + shipping (US$180) + Black Oak finish (US$50) + debit card charge (US$25) = US$1,750.

HP version for 230V country not ready until 2011.

wow.. u got ur subm for only 1.5k?? thought i paid $2k excluding shipping

good price mate

For US$1.5k, I get brand new cabinet and driver but pre owned 1000W amp. These are the perfectly working amps from people who upgraded/trade in to the new HP version. Mark will retest and give a 2 years warranty on these amp. This represent a US$400 reduction from new amp + US$50 reduction in black oak finish + US$150 reduction in freight = US$600 discount.

I believe u r not based in Malaysia, right? The shipping cost of USD180 is cheap if its all the way to Malaysia..

You're switch on! I'm a Msian based in Melb and I'm currently participating in a Group Buy where at present, 40 or more Submersive is on order!

At 40 subs, u guys better be getting USD180!

The last I checked if its single sub, it was something like USD400 odd.

I believe u r making a wise decision.

The PB13U, Seaton Submersive and now the Rythmik F15 are all in the class of subs that u cannot really go wrong.

I am pretty sure the eD 750 is also such a sub...

The sealed vs ported is a personal thing.

bro anfield... have u decided which to switch to ?

Before I send the SB13-Plus to those audiophiles' home for audition (with so many of them, it will probably be out for 2-3 weeks), I will try to pitch it against the PB13-Ultra for movie and concert.

I think I am very much a ported sub uncle when it comes to movie Since I can set up both ported and sealed sub in the room with EQ1 controlling both (dual inputs and dual outputs), I can switch the Ultra beast on for movie and SB13-Plus for music

Usually Submersive is more expensive than a PB13U but because of this GB, it is slightly cheaper.

ronnt88 - how's your submersive? Like I said, don't worry - I did not take away your exclusivity of having one in Msia.

my subby is fine... especially when i'm sitting on the sweet spot

i believe 2 subs could create more sweet spots in me living room

And a AS-EQ1 to troubleshoot the acoustic issues

bro,

If u've got the time, drop by....check out the F15.

The last couple of days (actually from Saturday last week), I've been mucking around with the Rythmik F15.

Most of u who know me and hv been to my home, will know that I am an audio 1st guy. I currently own a Dali Ikon Sub (12in driver) that seemed to do the job well in my room, went down to about 26Hz. Probably at high SPL scenes, it could go to about 100dB but it was always strained. I have auditioned the Rythmik in the owners home before and at that time, was convinced that it was either a room problem or a sub problem. Subsequently, I listened to PB13U (was absolutely floored by the punch), Seaton Sub (my personal favourite due to its ability to handle music and movies with relative ease, the one complaint I had to the owner was that his sub was outperforming the rest of his gear!), the Velo DD12 (also powerful but not near the PB13U) and all of them in this range seem good. I am pretty sure by pierreye's current impression the eD650 seems to trump his DD12 easily so its another one of those damn good subs...

My current Ikon Sub has overhang, that's one thing I do not like when integrated to my current fronts. The Ikon6s go pretty low (rated at 37Hz) but paired with a sub, for orchestral pieces and even music, its even better. Being a 6 1/2in driver of course it does not do low frequencies that well but its rated low anyway.

So when I actually plonked the F15 by simply removing the IkonSub, (did not redo the Audyssey), the improvement over the smaller sub was clearly evident. The older AS-EQ1 curve was set to cutoff everything at 26Hz due to the older sub. All I did was to adjust the trims to bring the levels matched, and even then the difference was clear. I later re-did the EQ1 with 1 in 2 out combo and set the F15 to 20Hz mode. The curve post EQ1 was pretty spot on and the cutoff was set at 18Hz or so. I did not do REW or enable the PEQ on the F15. I believe for my 2 channel listening this will improve the effect much more. Some of my reference CDs for bass response do seem much better. Also I can listen at lower volumes and still get the low end to show. So after all this, I watched some of the normal scenes to check the overall bass response for movies.

Boy, was there a difference! My room is untreated, so I already know that there will be a decay problem. Maybe this weekend I will run the REW curves and see how it looks.

The normal movie scenes that has been recommended by all, Batman, WOTW, KungFu Panda was all so much better compared to my older sub. All this was not at reference levels. Since my room is untreated, I normally listen to -5 to -10dB below reference, at the impact was really big! The sub seemed to dig deeper (of course) and the impact was visceral as well. The kick in the chest was evident on some of the scenes. I will write more of my impressions later.

So the moral of the story, for all those contemplating for a sub and u r the kind who wants to enhance ur viewing experience, go out there and spend on a good sub. All the subs above are good. Of course, with htkaki selling SVS here locally in Malaysia, it makes it that much easier in not having to import the sub urself and also with the addition of the new SB13, u can get the sealed in big bad a** sound! I also know how capable the PB13U is as I have felt it in the demo room and its one big bad sub! Certainly give it a try if u r looking for a big sub.

I am definately going to continue to play with this sub to see how I can further integrate it into my 2 channel stereo as there are still knobs on the bugger (phase, PEQ, damping and rumble filters) to see if I can improve on it.

woohoo... congratz on ur new upgrade

Never know that you actually got the F15 sub from our buddy. LOL... Maybe I was too busy with the show that I did not actually pay attention to it. My bad...

Btw, have you been to Mr Tan's home for the calibration? I have yet to follow up again on the status of his HT system. He might be the 1st PB-U owner in PG.

Yeah, with the GB you guys were able to nego for a very good price overall. Congrats! Now for the anxious wait

Wow great price. Too bad not for Malaysia.

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Added on July 28, 2010, 11:16 amYou are using the Onkyo 876 for music? All this upgrade of sub and speaker had exposed that the weakest link I have in my system is the receiver. I seriously consider getting an Emotiva USP-1 so that I can cross the speaker and sub at 80hz for music (analog crossover) and use the HT passthrough for Onkyo 805 during movie session. I need sometime to tune in my system as I'm still waiting for my RCA to 1/4" plug for BFD and Galaxy CM-140 SPL meter to measure the full freq response of my speaker.

This post has been edited by pierreye: Jul 28 2010, 11:17 AM

pierreeye

I know you already built your own sub but for those interested, the purchase of new sub + pre-owned amp can be arranged. Not sure whether pricing and freight remained the same but no harm asking Mark.

shhh.... pls don't market this as to protect my exclusive ness ... kakak

I do not use the 876 for music. I use a dedicated pre/power combination for music. Its the Holfi PreNB1 and the Holfi Power NB2. I am looking at the possibility of a pre amp with HT bypass but have not decided on that one yet. If I do get one, it might be a tube amp. The way I hv it set up now requires me to change the cables each time. I believe Rythmik might hv a new amp with the required LineIn/Line out and dedicated LFE in soon.

Also if u need the RCA to 1/4" plug, check ThyeHuat, I hv to check if I hv one as well. The CM-140 is great...

If you need a preamp with analog crossover to sub + HT bypass, I narrow down the choice to Emotiva USP-1 and Parasound 2100. If you need full range bypass for HT then your choice would be parasound 2100 as Emotiva can't passthrough full range for HT bypass option and the lowest it will go for the crossover is 50hz. But it's a good choice for me as my speaker is only rated down to 80hz only.

Time for you to call Mark for pre-own amp version of Submersive.

Thye Huat adapter a bit cheapo. Fedex should deliver the plug and meter today from Part Express. Damn 25% tax again.

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Added on July 28, 2010, 11:55 amNo worry. I'm not getting the submersive. If I didn't built the sub than I would call Mark every morning until I get him a confirm shipment.

This post has been edited by pierreye: Jul 28 2010, 11:55 AM