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 SVS Owners Thread V2.0, New PB and PC DSP are here!

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jchong
post Aug 18 2010, 05:59 PM

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QUOTE(htkaki @ Aug 18 2010, 01:32 PM)
Nothing beats an Ultra for the sheer ULF.
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I know what can beat that... 2 Ultras!! tongue.gif
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post Aug 18 2010, 09:17 PM

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QUOTE(jchong @ Aug 18 2010, 05:58 PM)
Interesting why the 1008 would be brutal with the bass. Especially after you ran Audyssey.

Did you check with your SPL meter on the channel level for the sub? Was it at 75 dB? I suspect sometimes due to the mic or the Audyssey implementation in each AVR, the resulting setting can differ by a few dB. For all you know the sub level could be set a bit 'hot' (without you knowing) and makes the bass seem brutal.
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Checked with SPL meter right after Audyssey.

I thought it is Onkyo's characteristic, which it is quite renowned. Denon is more balance. 1008 makes me feel like in a cinema since everything seems larger than life while 4310 makes you feel at home, in this case home theater. The vocal is quite expansive than 4310, which I do not quite fancy. I prefer vocal to be tighter.

The 'pow wow' of Onkyo makes movie watching quite suspenseful.

I am thinking of getting one for the showroom in near future since a lot of ppl prefers dynamic and punchy sound.

It would have to wait for now as I am in the search for a pre/power for hi-fi.

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I know what can beat that... 2 Ultras!! tongue.gif


And I know one fellow avid HT hobbyist here that will have 2 PB13-Ultras by early Sept.

A month or 2 down the road, there will be another member here having a new SB13-Plus with probably new PB13-Ultra.

Speaking of which, dual subs kakis seem to be on the rise thumbup.gif



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post Aug 18 2010, 09:56 PM

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QUOTE(htkaki @ Aug 18 2010, 09:17 PM)
Checked with SPL meter right after Audyssey.

I thought it is Onkyo's characteristic, which it is quite renowned. Denon is more balance. 1008 makes me feel like in a cinema since everything seems larger than life while 4310 makes you feel at home, in this case home theater. The vocal is quite expansive than 4310, which I do not quite fancy. I prefer vocal to be tighter.

The 'pow wow' of Onkyo makes movie watching quite suspenseful.

I am thinking of getting one for the showroom in near future since a lot of ppl prefers dynamic and punchy sound.


Yeah I think the Onkyo sound appeals to a wider audience. Their AVRs are also quite feature packed for the money.


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Speaking of which, dual subs kakis seem to be on the rise  thumbup.gif


More business for u rclxms.gif
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post Aug 18 2010, 10:01 PM

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QUOTE(htkaki @ Aug 18 2010, 09:17 PM)
Checked with SPL meter right after Audyssey.

I thought it is Onkyo's characteristic, which it is quite renowned. Denon is more balance. 1008 makes me feel like in a cinema since everything seems larger than life while 4310 makes you feel at home, in this case home theater. The vocal is quite expansive than 4310, which I do not quite fancy. I prefer vocal to be tighter.

The 'pow wow' of Onkyo makes movie watching quite suspenseful.

I am thinking of getting one for the showroom in near future since a lot of ppl prefers dynamic and punchy sound.

It would have to wait for now as I am in the search for a pre/power for hi-fi.
And I know one fellow avid HT hobbyist here that will have 2 PB13-Ultras by early Sept.

A month or 2 down the road, there will be another member here having a new SB13-Plus with probably new PB13-Ultra.

Speaking of which, dual subs kakis seem to be on the rise  thumbup.gif
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The Onkyos definately work well for movies. Not too good for music.

2 subs is the way to go, for sure.

Also, this is one thing. So far, I hv heard the following subs, eD a7s-650, Rythmik F15, Seaton Submersive, SB13U, PB13U, PC12, Dali IkonSub, Sunfire, Velo DD12, Velo CHT series and some others.

There is nothing that I know that comes close to the the max SPL of PB13U for movies except the Seaton (but it sounds different).

The sealed subs, get as loud and work very well for music, but for movies that port build up sound and the sheer raw power of the PB13U are very difficult to beat. Get a pair with an AS-EQ1, u shd be in bass heaven...
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QUOTE(anfieldude @ Aug 18 2010, 10:01 PM)
The Onkyos definately work well for movies. Not too good for music.

2 subs is the way to go, for sure.

Also, this is one thing. So far, I hv heard the following subs, eD a7s-650, Rythmik F15, Seaton Submersive, SB13U, PB13U, PC12, Dali IkonSub, Sunfire, Velo DD12, Velo CHT series and some others.

There is nothing that I know that comes close to the the max SPL of PB13U for movies except the Seaton (but it sounds different).

The sealed subs, get as loud and work very well for music, but for movies that port build up sound and the sheer raw power of the PB13U are very difficult to beat. Get a pair with an AS-EQ1, u shd be in bass heaven...
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Bro, you should come down when you have time smile.gif . Now, it is even better than you have auditioned it before. IMHO, at least 10-15% better even though it is in a larger room now.

So far, only ronaldjoe and a few other forummers auditioned it before.
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post Aug 19 2010, 05:49 PM

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still dun understand the hype abt all this bass thing
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QUOTE(rx330 @ Aug 19 2010, 05:49 PM)
still dun understand the hype abt all this bass thing
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you are too get used to the sound of iTune liao.... sweat.gif
just like airport....no up, no down, no front, no back tongue.gif
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QUOTE(rx330 @ Aug 19 2010, 05:49 PM)
still dun understand the hype abt all this bass thing
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YB, I'll help you to set the PC13-Ultra up at ur Villa. Then, you will tell me what's the 'hype'. If elek, please throw the PC-U along with me to Selat Tebrau. Ok boh? brows.gif
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post Aug 19 2010, 10:38 PM

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QUOTE(htkaki @ Aug 19 2010, 09:31 PM)
YB, I'll help you to set the PC13-Ultra up at ur Villa. Then, you will tell me what's the 'hype'. If elek, please throw the PC-U along with me to Selat Tebrau. Ok boh?  brows.gif
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trust me it wont be the same once u heard svs sub perfomance just like to me lol laugh.gif
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QUOTE(htkaki @ Aug 18 2010, 01:32 PM)
Nothing beats an Ultra for the sheer ULF.

Bryan have 2x PB12-Plus and a SPL-1200Ultra in a room. He told me that it still not able to match the downright ULF of Ultra. In terms of output, 2x 12-Plus might be higher than a single Ultra. But, in terms of bass quality, still Ultra has an edge.
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I know what sub can beat the ULF of Ultra. JTR Orbit Shifter or eD A7-900. Both sub are pure SPL beast. The size also too big for average HT room. Totally no WAF. sweat.gif
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Boss, you stuff shall eta Mon smile.gif

Pls use 1 input, 2 outputs at EQ1 for the subs
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post Aug 20 2010, 02:56 AM

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QUOTE(htkaki @ Aug 19 2010, 11:36 PM)
Boss, you stuff shall eta Mon smile.gif

Pls use 1 input, 2 outputs at EQ1 for the subs
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hi maxx,

For svs subwoofer connection is it better to connect only to 1 input on the sub or use the adapter which comes with the cable that connect to 2 input on the sub?

Thanks
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post Aug 20 2010, 06:45 AM

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if you use both, you'll gain 6dB from it. Hence, you need not crank the sub's gain that high. I am doing that for my 13-Ultra
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QUOTE(htkaki @ Aug 19 2010, 11:36 PM)
Boss, you stuff shall eta Mon smile.gif

Pls use 1 input, 2 outputs at EQ1 for the subs
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OK. My replacement driver should arrive on Sat according to Fedex. I hope the f**king ketam wouldn't try to tax replacement item. vmad.gif

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QUOTE(pierreye @ Aug 20 2010, 09:50 AM)
OK. My replacement driver should arrive on Sat according to Fedex. I hope the f**king ketam wouldn't try to tax replacement item. vmad.gif
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Bro, just show them the previous ketam form & courier slip for the return. They will not tax you.
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rm 599 ar for the sub?
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QUOTE(rx330 @ Aug 20 2010, 12:05 PM)
rm 599 ar for the sub?
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More like add another zelo..

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QUOTE(htkaki @ Aug 20 2010, 06:45 AM)
if you use both, you'll gain 6dB from it. Hence, you need not crank the sub's gain that high. I am doing that for my 13-Ultra
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I am using Y-cable from monoprice. At 12 o'clock on the sub gain, my AVR trim is at -8dB after Audassey and it is still +5dB hot according to Anfieldude's SPL meter. sweat.gif

Should I remove the Y-cable in this case, or just tune down the gain on the sub?
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QUOTE(chewkl @ Aug 20 2010, 01:52 PM)
I am using Y-cable from monoprice. At 12 o'clock on the sub gain, my AVR trim is at -8dB after Audassey and it is still +5dB hot according to Anfieldude's SPL meter. sweat.gif

Should I remove the Y-cable in this case, or just tune down the gain on the sub?
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play some music on it with the sub turned on. tune the sub trim on the avr till the sub blends in. david foster & friends is a good source. if the trim is too low, adjust the sub gain till the trim is about -5dB to cater for needed overhead when playing movies.
for music my setup is at -5dB. in some movies like war of the worlds where the bass is superbly good i like to increase it to -1dB. for most movies i tend to keep it at -5dB.

well that's how a peasant does it
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QUOTE(chewkl @ Aug 20 2010, 01:52 PM)
I am using Y-cable from monoprice. At 12 o'clock on the sub gain, my AVR trim is at -8dB after Audassey and it is still +5dB hot according to Anfieldude's SPL meter. sweat.gif

Should I remove the Y-cable in this case, or just tune down the gain on the sub?
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I'll try to get the avr trim at 0, the sub sld be at abt near 10 o'clock or less.

My current PB13-Ultra is at slightly above 9o'clock, 0 at avr level. Level checked, 74-75dB

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