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 A love story from busy guy, My failed relationship

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n00b13
post Nov 30 2009, 06:39 PM

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QUOTE(little ice @ Nov 30 2009, 06:21 PM)
and who we are to critique? have you been through the same situation? being the only son, living under a business oriented + very strict (perhaps very traditional) family?
His situation is far from unique.

QUOTE(little ice @ Nov 30 2009, 06:21 PM)
it's his family. we shouldn't comment. because we will always begin with our own insight, rather than knowing his family enough to form a conclusion. unless you know TS that well to give bold statements. wink.gif
We can certainly comment on what he's told us. Why else would he start this thread in the first place?


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QUOTE(bennymc @ Nov 30 2009, 06:32 PM)
all i can say is all the best in patching up, but do remember to consider the consequences before taking the first step. changes in you need to be done willingly, you don't change just to suit her cos it might ended up in a bigger mess.

you stated that you never question your dad and followed everything he said. i know you're being filial, but there's a difference between obedient with critical thinking and obedient by following blindly. your lack of critical analyze on r/ship issues had landed you in today's state. so pls, if you ever thought of mending back, learn to communicate and learn to love. all these while your posting is only about you, how bout her?

and there are times where loving someone means letting them go and let them live their own life~
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nod.gif That's wat i wanna to tell earlier..

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post Nov 30 2009, 06:47 PM

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QUOTE(debbieyss @ Nov 30 2009, 04:56 PM)
And I would say, Winner, think what and how you should do before you really take action. Think on her behalf and think about the consequences before you approach her again. Adapt the appropriate ways to handle this relationship. Do not make mistakes again.

Learn how to manage your time well. Learn how to honor your parents. Learn how not to obey blindly.

I once forsaken what I initially have, just for my parents, so I understand how you feel. I no longer have it now but yeah, I have no regret cos I have thought of it thoroughly and I know this is the right decision to forsake it, so that my parents have no care about me.

Winner, remember if you really go for her this time, the consequence may not as what you want it to be. If you fail to win her heart back, it's ok. At least you have tried your best. Set her free. She will have a happy life, too.
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Got it. As the only son, I have never forsaken anything thus far. Just hope he won't get mad with me, you see she's the only daughter in law, dad has high expectation as me.

Anyway, the past has long gone, and now at the age of 28, dad has become more understanding.
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post Nov 30 2009, 06:51 PM

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hmm....since now u said ur dad is more understanding...what's the issue and revolving points now?

carpe diem my friend! cheers!



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post Nov 30 2009, 06:59 PM

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QUOTE(theWinner @ Nov 30 2009, 06:24 PM)
Rule is rule, and I'm in the least bit interested to do anything to change my rigid dad. However I could spin, he is a high profile person and a VIP in most occasion, and no matter how high I achieve, get a PhD, do a business project in his company, he would still think I know nothing.


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"This is not something I should tell, but listen, who is going to manage the business one day your father is not feeling well?" 

"Sorry" I went straight into my room.


debbieyss, Ice, rainbowemo and others, now you know why I have been a good "Kwan keok zai".

But, for personal life other than business, yes, I should talk to my father. I need a change!
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if the business is big, it is not necessary to have one's own family members to inherit it
I mean, aside from you, your dad should have trained and select a few others as the possible candidates to take the helm of a company, while you can chair the board and your siblings in BOD.
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post Nov 30 2009, 07:02 PM

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QUOTE(n00b13 @ Nov 30 2009, 06:39 PM)
His situation is far from unique.
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yes but have YOU experienced it?


QUOTE(n00b13 @ Nov 30 2009, 06:39 PM)
We can certainly comment on what he's told us. Why else would he start this thread in the first place?
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yup, but it seems like you're making conclusions than comments...



QUOTE(theWinner @ Nov 30 2009, 06:47 PM)
Got it. As the only son, I have never forsaken anything thus far. Just hope he won't get mad with me, you see she's the only daughter in law, dad has high expectation as me.

Anyway, the past has long gone, and now at the age of 28, dad has become more understanding.
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it's actually a pretty common problem - father/mother versus gf. the hardest thing is to find a proper balance. sweat.gif

anyway, in short, all you need is time. at the moment, you certainly don't need to rush things. start off with getting in touch with your ex, politely ask for a lunch or dinner. maybe once or twice a week. just remember don't rush, take your time. biggrin.gif


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post Nov 30 2009, 07:03 PM

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ts pls chase her back then only tell us more about the story..
as above said, the story will not grow until u're brave enough to take out the next move
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post Nov 30 2009, 07:05 PM

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how about i inherit your dad's business? or at least put me on the board of the company or CEO or watever not...just to lighten your burden....

BTW, i'm also a PHD holder...!
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post Nov 30 2009, 07:07 PM

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QUOTE(little ice @ Nov 30 2009, 07:02 PM)
yes but have YOU experienced it?
I have experienced the same pressures any Asian male with a traditional-minded father has. Just because we don't have a family business that I'm expected to inherit doesn't mean I can never understand.

(And BTW, it's not even unique to Asians.)

QUOTE(little ice @ Nov 30 2009, 07:02 PM)
yup, but it seems like you're making conclusions than comments...
I don't see a distinction. It's not like I'm the mod, that I can close a thread to "conclude" it. I'm saying what I think, just like everyone else.


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post Nov 30 2009, 07:18 PM

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QUOTE(n00b13 @ Nov 30 2009, 07:07 PM)
I have experienced the same pressures any Asian male with a traditional-minded father has. Just because we don't have a family business that I'm expected to inherit doesn't mean I can never understand.

(And BTW, it's not even unique to Asians.)
I don't see a distinction. It's not like I'm the mod, that I can close a thread to "conclude" it. I'm saying what I think, just like everyone else.
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ok, guess we don't share the same view on this, and it's leading nowhere, i shall stop here. wink.gif

in the end, i believe TS is mature enough to come out with a way to sort things out. besides, let's focus on his relationship rather than his family, which already lead to a temporary end here and i'm looking forward to Winner's stories. laugh.gif

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post Nov 30 2009, 07:41 PM

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QUOTE(kienu @ Nov 30 2009, 07:05 PM)
how about i inherit your dad's business? or at least put me on the board of the company or CEO or watever not...just to lighten your burden....

BTW, i'm also a PHD holder...!
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You don't sound like a PHD holder.
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post Nov 30 2009, 10:24 PM

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lol....

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post Nov 30 2009, 11:48 PM

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QUOTE(theWinner @ Nov 30 2009, 09:47 PM)
Got it. As the only son, I have never forsaken anything thus far. Just hope he won't get mad with me, you see she's the only daughter in law, dad has high expectation as me.

Anyway, the past has long gone, and now at the age of 28, dad has become more understanding.
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Whoa whoa whoa let's not be hasty now. Do you actually plan to reconnect all the loose threads with your ex-GF, and talk to your parents NOW ? shocking.gif Don't let your raw emotions override your logic, man. I think you know best that now is not the time, there's a distance factor *You're in NZ she's in MY*, and you have your Research to focus on. Priority No.1. Other stuff can wait. whistling.gif

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Your relationship with the ex-GF can be mended slowly in the meantime wub.gif .... for example you could reconnect with her electronically (email/facebook/etc) and just keep in contact briefly, provided the first thing you do is apologize. Blame your dad if you have to, and use the sympathy card. It always works. This time, please KEEP MONEY AND FAMILY OUT OF THE LOVE EQUATION. Once you're done with Graduate School you can tackle her anytime, right ?? Why rush ? Hell, you could actually go for any other girl tongue.gif if only you weren't so attached to your 8-year-ex. sad.gif

Do know that you've already done your best to fulfill your dad's expectations since you were kid. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH. In the future, when the time is right, you should tell him straight in person that he should stay the fark out of your personal relationships. mad.gif

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He ruined your 8 years of relationships after all, don't you see ? Why aren't you angry ? vmad.gif Because of him you couldn't take one mere trip to Australia with your GF. You couldn't be more intimate with your GF. Because of him your GF was forced to be 'trained' on high profile situations like attending parties/golf/etc. Because of his high expectations of you to master various business-related skills and do well academically you never had a chance to just relax and be with your GF..... IT WAS BECAUSE OF YOUR DAD WHO GAVE YOU SEPARATE VOUCHERS THAT LED TO THAT "SEPARATE HOTEL ROOMS" INCIDENT, REMEMBER ? Let's not fool yourself into a sense of obedient denial now. Have the guts to face the truth, what you really feel. Just because he's your dad doesn't mean you can't get angry at him.... you're only human, after all, no ?

Even though he may never be proud of your achievements compared to his own, he will at least get a shock that his only "obedient son" suddenly man up and fought back against his unrealistic expectations. I can assure you that even though he may be pissed off for a while, eventually he will be proud of you for taking charge of your own life. flex.gif

Just talk to your Dad calmly how you really feel like mature adults do, can liow.... don't overdo it like this kid below....ahahahahaha~ tongue.gif

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Finally, I dedicate this song to you, theWinner.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqTzrUJNtyU

GOOD LUCK !! YOU CAN DO IT !!! thumbup.gif

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post Dec 1 2009, 12:36 AM

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Priapuseros, you overused the font style. Keep it simple and tidy. tongue.gif
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post Dec 1 2009, 12:38 AM

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This song oso ok..... if theres chance to patch things up. I wish u all the best.

Kate Winslet- what if i had never let u go..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5VqwQ-7dhUg&feature=related
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post Dec 1 2009, 12:51 AM

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QUOTE(debbieyss @ Dec 1 2009, 03:36 AM)
Priapuseros, you overused the font style. Keep it simple and tidy. tongue.gif
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Edited, thanks.

QUOTE(viper88 @ Dec 1 2009, 03:38 AM)
This song oso ok..... if theres chance to patch things up. I wish u all the best.

Kate Winslet- what if i had never let u go..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5VqwQ-7dhUg&feature=related
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Great Song. tongue.gif

This one is also really powerful and naisss >

It's not over - Chris Daughtry

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post Dec 1 2009, 01:58 AM

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Sometimes,

True Love doesn't exist and

Winner, the best you can do is let it go.

Even if you were to be with here it's never going to be a happily forever ending. There're bound to be challenges ahead in the future.

All I can say is that the girl is insecure, weak and lack of self confidence. Or, it could be that she does have her pride too and when she thinks enough is enough, she just let it go.

So, the fruit of this relationship is in the hands of both of you.

Best wishes.
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post Dec 1 2009, 08:32 AM

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Chilled la all of the TFs here. what is the point of arguing when TS doesnt asking for solution or anything. he just want to 发泄 in this post.

he should know what is the problem and solution himself. no one can help to clean the mess, onli him. we just advise what is in our mind. to take into consideration or not, it all depends on the TS.

no point arguing who's right or wrong here.

as the fella said, wait for new news come onli discuss further.

have a nice day! cheers~
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post Dec 1 2009, 08:46 AM

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Added on December 1, 2009, 8:48 amhi lee hom...

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post Dec 1 2009, 09:10 AM

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Bro,because of career,money,future,and your family face.. Worth it?After all you both have been through...After i sawyour story, i remember mine. But, hey... cheer up. If you still love her, why not ask her to forgive you and get married. start a warm family.

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