is Winner = TS?

as in the same person? or it's a Dr Jekyll n Hyde scenario>?

hahahahaha..........taiwanese/tvb drama? ur too dramatic lah..

if there's the BEST tvb drama ever..it is n must be Chong Sai Gei~

for Taiwanese...it must be Express Boy! Really really missed the late Xu Wei Lun....RIP...

We are not discuss drama/tvb here.. if not later kena warned.. 

Anyway, try think in TS's shoes sure he hv the responsible as a son to do all the things since he is the only son.. try imagine if u r him then..

So learned sister, where to discuss? Hahaha....

We gotta chill....everyone has or will go thru this kind of scenario lah...cheers!

Sister? 

*Pointing to Music & Movie Thread* 

i sort of understand how it feels like when Winner is facing his father. at this point, i sympathize TS's situation.

as a son, you cannot just do whatever you like. as a son, you cannot just run all out just for a girl. it's very hard to make a decision. those who never have this experience before of course can talk very easy.

on the other hand, there's no single father/mother in the world will make use of the son like a machine or tool. i believe, deep down in TS father's heart, he just want him to not make a failed step in his life. not the best way to show his love, but nevertheless, he's trying to give the best to his son.

Winner, at this point, i can't give you definite suggestion on the "correct" path. things might or might not work out, and you might spend another few years and end up nothing. but most important thing is, if you truely love her, you shouldn't feel regret whatsoever.

A father will always have expectations of his child, whether reasonable or unreasonable.

No one is asking TS to be an anak derhaka. But there comes a time in every child's life when he has to take charge of his own life. A good father knows how to balance his expectations of his child with giving them the freedom to choose their own path.

Hell, I used to have huge arguments with my dad. And sometimes it wasn't because I disappointed him or anything - sometimes, it was just because we were two grown men living under the same roof, like two male lions growling at each other.    The best decision I ever made was to move out, and now I can go visit them every so often like a good son. 

28 is pretty damn old enough to know how to take charge of his life without upsetting his father. If he's still blaming his dad for where he is now, he's just making excuses.

sometimes the eastern culture is loathe-able 
because of some of these cultures, Asian can hardly produce Bill Gates, Steve Jobs, Mark Zuckerberg etc

this is TS life.not ur life.so get back to the topic

this is TS life.not ur life.so get back to the topic

A good father knows how to balance his expectations of his child with giving them the freedom to choose their own path.

There is no wrong in following his father or proper word is obey all the requirement set by the father.. without our parent we are nothing now.. as for TS case what he need to do is think in his gf's shoes rather than just want his gf follow his way blindly n at least voice out to his daddy when he think something is wrong.. i believe as a only son in the family n even in a rich family it's much stress than our normal one.. jz by watching those taiwanese/tvb drama u will get the idea..

Rule is rule, and I'm in the least bit interested to do anything to change my rigid dad. However I could spin, he is a high profile person and a VIP in most occasion, and no matter how high I achieve, get a PhD, do a business project in his company, he would still think I know nothing.


One week after getting back from UK, I suggested to tour Australia with my GF.

"You must listen your father." My mom said, in her usual soft tone.

"But, I want to go to Australia for long holidays!" I stressed.

"Listen, Winner, you must listen to your father!" she repeated.

"Alright, reason?"

"You should achieve something, your father wants to see results."

"I don't get it, I'm tired!"

"Tired? So tired that you can go as far as Australia with a girl?"

"I have never been to Australia! This is a joke, who has never been to Australia?"

"Winner, look, you must listen to your father!"

Mom became serious and continued.

"Your father is old, he should have retired."

She became emotional.

"This is not something I should tell, but listen, who is going to manage the business one day your father is not feeling well?" 

"Sorry" I went straight into my room.


debbieyss, Ice, rainbowemo and others, now you know why I have been a good "Kwan keok zai".

i sort of understand how it feels like when Winner is facing his father. at this point, i sympathize TS's situation.

as a son, you cannot just do whatever you like. as a son, you cannot just run all out just for a girl. it's very hard to make a decision. those who never have this experience before of course can talk very easy.

on the other hand, there's no single father/mother in the world will make use of the son like a machine or tool. i believe, deep down in TS father's heart, he just want him to not make a failed step in his life. not the best way to show his love, but nevertheless, he's trying to give the best to his son.

Winner, at this point, i can't give you definite suggestion on the "correct" path. things might or might not work out, and you might spend another few years and end up nothing. but most important thing is, if you truely love her, you shouldn't feel regret whatsoever.