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PC Audio Please Recommend... a 2.1 or 5.1 speaker set V3, Comparison and advice needed.

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post Nov 8 2009, 08:43 AM

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QUOTE(aspire2oo6 @ Nov 8 2009, 01:55 AM)
my z-5500D is entering its 4th year already still works great. Havent found a speaker to replace my z-5500D yet
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Entry level hifi/ht smile.gif Same feel only better, tigher, louder thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(dlyz @ Nov 8 2009, 08:43 AM)
Entry level hifi/ht smile.gif Same feel only better, tigher, louder  thumbup.gif
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wow haha u have the same previous setup as mine.

Before Altec VS4121 then now Z-5500D.

For basshead VS4121 is ideal for its price and power.
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post Nov 8 2009, 12:56 PM

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My budget is around RM250 - 300, please recommend me a 2.1 PC speaker pls, really appreciate your input here.
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QUOTE(aspire2oo6 @ Nov 8 2009, 01:38 AM)
its a 5.1 but u can choose how u want the speaker to perform. When listening to music i will let it play thru ASIO for the amazing output quality. When movie i switch the 5.1 on. When music i let it run on 4.1 or 2.1
No regrets. My room not big either. The smaller the better the more amazing the surround sound is\

Some day if have chance u can find someone to demo it i bet watever speaker ure consider getting now will change your mind. Last time my bass made my neighbour two doors away banging on my door because of the bass
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i dont have the chance to test z5500 yet...if i use only 2 satellites only, would the sound be not nice?...my budget are quite tight..if i take z5500, i cant buy a decent soundcard yet... im targeting 1000 for speaker and 400 for SC...but when u say i will change what i have consider if i ever listen to z5500, it make me think twice....

in your opinion, z5500 still can perform well without SC?...


QUOTE(nismo91 @ Nov 8 2009, 01:46 AM)
lol bro u still havnt got the "basshead" speaker until today?
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not yet bro....i cant make up my mind yet....i want to find a really2 good speaker that confirm will statisfied me....i got budget 13++..sumthing around that...so im not sure which one is the best....i never test z5500 yet...i already test z Cinema and s730D...but aspire say both are no match for z5500...and make me start to think twice whether issit better for me to top up abit my speaker budget and buy the z5500 and put on hold on the sound card1st or buy zcinema or s730d or razer mako and yet can buy a decent SC...


QUOTE(Faint @ Nov 8 2009, 08:14 AM)
As you mentioned your requirement, for 2.1 speaker is only S730 suit you. If place S730 in large living room, I guess you not able to feel the heart pain & mouse pointer shaking but the bass still very very strong !
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now im not quite sure wheter to take 5.1 or 2.1 only...

tq for the opinion and advice.....i will consider it... nod.gif
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QUOTE(narkon @ Nov 8 2009, 02:03 PM)
i dont have the chance to test z5500 yet...if i use only 2 satellites only, would the sound be not nice?...my budget are quite tight..if i take z5500, i cant buy a decent soundcard yet... im targeting 1000 for speaker and 400 for SC...but when u say i will change what i have consider if i ever listen to z5500, it make me think twice....

in your opinion, z5500 still can perform well without SC?...
not yet bro....i cant make up my mind yet....i want to find a really2 good speaker that confirm will statisfied me....i got budget 13++..sumthing around that...so im not sure which one is the best....i never test z5500 yet...i already test z Cinema and s730D...but aspire say both are no match for z5500...and make me start to think twice whether issit better for me to top up abit my speaker budget and buy the z5500 and put on hold on the sound card1st or buy zcinema or s730d or razer mako and yet can buy a decent SC...
now im not quite sure wheter to take 5.1 or 2.1 only...

tq for the opinion and advice.....i will consider it... nod.gif
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haha, im sure Z5500 will blast Zcinema away. i once heard its cranked up, not to the max though. if u compare Z5500 with S730 or S550, im pretty sure Z5500 has the edge in the sub. thats not because of the spec, because of the reviews and the fact that logitech is specialized in making bassy speakers. while edifier focus more on the highs than the lows.

at this review, at the conclusion it clearly suggest that the S550 (not S730) needs to be "lower" in frequency. i wonder if we share similar genres of speakers, you would want to find speakers with lower frequency response.

thus, i would go for speakers that has the lowest true frequency response, which is Z5500. but since im not a big fans of logitech i went for something else. although i must admit the control pod of the Z5500 is interesting. that is the part where logitech excels, their z680 and z5500 control pod, and their zcinema remote control.
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QUOTE(nismo91 @ Nov 8 2009, 02:43 PM)
haha, im sure Z5500 will blast Zcinema away. i once heard its cranked up, not to the max though. if u compare Z5500 with S730 or S550, im pretty sure Z5500 has the edge in the sub. thats not because of the spec, because of the reviews and the fact that logitech is specialized in making bassy speakers. while edifier focus more on the highs than the lows.

at this review, at the conclusion it clearly suggest that the S550 (not S730) needs to be "lower" in frequency. i wonder if we share similar genres of speakers, you would want to find speakers with lower frequency response.

thus, i would go for speakers that has the lowest true frequency response, which is Z5500. but since im not a big fans of logitech i went for something else. although i must admit the control pod of the Z5500 is interesting. that is the part where logitech excels, their z680 and z5500 control pod, and their zcinema remote control.
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so Zcinema is a no no for me?

thanks for the link...but as u can see in the link,as what i understand, y the tester say that in term of quality and overall edi s550 is more better...y ya? i read the translate version,quite hard to understand fully what he is try to say... rclxub.gif

what does it mean by the suggestion for "need to be lower Frequency" for s550.....can explain more on that?

what did u get for your self? a speaker more superior that z5500?...
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QUOTE(narkon @ Nov 8 2009, 07:17 PM)
so Zcinema is a no no for me?

thanks for the link...but as u can see in the link,as what i understand, y the tester say that in term of quality and overall edi s550 is more better...y ya? i read the translate version,quite hard to understand fully what he is try to say... rclxub.gif

what does it mean by the suggestion for "need to be lower Frequency" for s550.....can explain more on that?

what did u get for your self? a speaker more superior that z5500?...
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it says the the bottom frequency response of S550 is much higher than Z5500. although it states 20hz - 20khz freq response, of course, the spec is not totally accurate. S550 start to be effective from 40hz onwards. im sure z5500 is lower, because when i audition Z5500 and S730, i can straight tell Z5500 has lower response.

yes the reviews do criticize Z5500 on using thin materials for the subwoofer enclosure which is ridiculous, as well as their one-way satellites compared to two-way in S550. but i can understand that their decoder needs developments etc, which shows that the price u pay went much for the decoder and control pod. as i said, upon looking at them u should know that bass lover would take Z5500 home and treble freak would buy S550.

hmm i didnt buy anything now. still using the old ifi. its more of a living room speakers compared to Z5500 which is computer speakers, therefore are not comparable. im currently waiting whether the new klipsch promedia 2.1 wireless exported to south-east asia market. if it does, surely get it. looks great. although it surely reach about 2010. now using my edifier R501 until i found a new replacement. Z5500 and S550 is too big for my room. lol.
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QUOTE(narkon @ Nov 8 2009, 02:03 PM)
tq for the opinion and advice.....i will consider it... nod.gif
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I don't really like z5500 bass, not tight as S730. and don't forget to buy a SC as well. Good luck to your shopping tongue.gif
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QUOTE(nismo91 @ Nov 8 2009, 08:50 PM)
it says the the bottom frequency response of S550 is much higher than Z5500. although it states 20hz - 20khz freq response, of course, the spec is not totally accurate. S550 start to be effective from 40hz onwards. im sure z5500 is lower, because when i audition Z5500 and S730, i can straight tell Z5500 has lower response.

yes the reviews do criticize Z5500 on using thin materials for the subwoofer enclosure which is ridiculous, as well as their one-way satellites compared to two-way in S550. but i can understand that their decoder needs developments etc, which shows that the price u pay went much for the decoder and control pod. as i said, upon looking at them u should know that bass lover would take Z5500 home and treble freak would buy S550.

hmm i didnt buy anything now. still using the old ifi. its more of a living room speakers compared to Z5500 which is computer speakers, therefore are not comparable. im currently waiting whether the new klipsch promedia 2.1 wireless exported to south-east asia market. if it does, surely get it. looks great. although it surely reach about 2010. now using my edifier R501 until i found a new replacement. Z5500 and S550 is too big for my room. lol.
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ok2...thanx alot for the explanation...i think i will get the z5500 instead..im a bass head person...but need to sacrifice the soundcard money 1st.. biggrin.gif


QUOTE(Faint @ Nov 8 2009, 10:49 PM)
I don't really like z5500 bass, not tight as S730. and don't forget to buy a SC as well. Good luck to your shopping  tongue.gif
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ok bro...tq2

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post Nov 9 2009, 11:07 AM

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Basshead go for Z5500 smile.gif It has the power when u want it though seldom can utilise it unless your house is like mine. Behind is sungai, left is empty lot, right is plant nursery, front is road. No neighbours to complain me... haha. But the songs i listen too is not basshead type anyways so outside my room is not very noisy in the first place.

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QUOTE(Orcamaniac @ Nov 8 2009, 12:56 PM)
My budget is around RM250 - 300, please recommend me a 2.1 PC speaker pls, really appreciate your input here.
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i would recommend Edifier M3300 (RM 239) - its the best in terms of clarity and music (but not for bassheads-not punchy enough)

p.s i'm using one myself - for better review u can check m3300 thread in this forum.
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QUOTE(nismo91 @ Nov 8 2009, 08:50 PM)
it says the the bottom frequency response of S550 is much higher than Z5500. although it states 20hz - 20khz freq response, of course, the spec is not totally accurate. S550 start to be effective from 40hz onwards. im sure z5500 is lower, because when i audition Z5500 and S730, i can straight tell Z5500 has lower response.

yes the reviews do criticize Z5500 on using thin materials for the subwoofer enclosure which is ridiculous, as well as their one-way satellites compared to two-way in S550. but i can understand that their decoder needs developments etc, which shows that the price u pay went much for the decoder and control pod. as i said, upon looking at them u should know that bass lover would take Z5500 home and treble freak would buy S550.

hmm i didnt buy anything now. still using the old ifi. its more of a living room speakers compared to Z5500 which is computer speakers, therefore are not comparable. im currently waiting whether the new klipsch promedia 2.1 wireless exported to south-east asia market. if it does, surely get it. looks great. although it surely reach about 2010. now using my edifier R501 until i found a new replacement. Z5500 and S550 is too big for my room. lol.
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For me i dont believe reviews. I believe my ears because even a speaker system cost 10k if the source is crappy it will sound crappy on tat 10k system.
Z-5500D is not only for bass u can tune its treble as well. Like i said your source matters. Currently i combine my z-5500D with Xonar D2X with Foobar thru ASIO. U should listen to it. Music have never been the same to me ever since.


My personal opinion i invest heavily on my speakers system because even the era from windows 95 to windows 7 your speaker still works fine. A computer system gets outdated within a year or 2.


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QUOTE(dlyz @ Nov 9 2009, 11:07 AM)
Basshead go for Z5500 smile.gif It has the power when u want it though seldom can utilise it unless your house is like mine. Behind is sungai, left is empty lot, right is plant nursery, front is road. No neighbours to complain me... haha. But the songs i listen too is not basshead type anyways so outside my room is not very noisy in the first place.
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Basshead or not it depends on the placing of your subwoofer. You put your sub against different material it creates different effect. For me i put it against wood it creates a more warm bass then those noisy ones. If you put your sub against the air then it only creates noise

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can show picture how you setup your z5500 bro aspire?
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Well, i bought Altec Lansing VS3251 and have to say quite disappointed with 5.1. Sounds crappy because most videos and all mp3 dont support it. Some games do and it's nice. I notice when i switch to 5.1 mode, alot of bass is lost. When i change to 2.1 (on my pc and speakers), seems to have more realistic bass. If i knew this earlier, i would have just bought 2.1. Anyone wanna buy my 1 week old system for RM350?
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QUOTE(aspire2oo6 @ Nov 10 2009, 09:24 PM)
For me i dont believe reviews. I believe my ears because even a speaker system cost 10k if the source is crappy it will sound crappy on tat 10k system.
Z-5500D is not only for bass u can tune its treble as well. Like i said your source matters. Currently i combine my z-5500D with Xonar D2X with Foobar thru ASIO. U should listen to it. Music have never been the same to me ever since.
My personal opinion i invest heavily on my speakers system because even the era from windows 95 to windows 7 your speaker still works fine. A computer system gets outdated within a year or 2.


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Basshead or not it depends on the placing of your subwoofer. You put your sub against different material it creates different effect. For me i put it against wood it creates a more warm bass then those noisy ones. If you put your sub against the air then it only creates noise
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well definitely, im just referring to the rightmark graphs. even though they may not be totally accurate, for the lower boundary, it gives a "clue" on how low the subwoofer can play.

i also agree that speakers does not depreciate quickly, so it's not bad for investment. the good thing is, speaker are quite versatile, can be used on many purpose, unlike something like graphic card, which have different interfaces and etc over years.

QUOTE(darkcurves @ Nov 12 2009, 04:33 AM)
Well, i bought Altec Lansing VS3251 and have to say quite disappointed with 5.1. Sounds crappy because most videos and all mp3 dont support it. Some games do and it's nice. I notice when i switch to 5.1 mode, alot of bass is lost. When i change to 2.1 (on my pc and speakers), seems to have more realistic bass. If i knew this earlier, i would have just bought 2.1. Anyone wanna buy my 1 week old system for RM350?
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dejavu, i am just reading this review and at the cons of Altec 3251 it says bass is eliminated in 5.1 mode. if you want more bass, u can tweak your soundcard or music software to produce more bass. of course it wouldnt always result in excellent bass reproduction.
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Exactly, if i knew earlier, would just stick with 2.1. We are not ready for 5.1 yet.
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hey guys,wanna ask
I heard that Altec Lansing quality degraded
but is altec lansing MX5021 still a good speaker for a normal user like me?
bass,midrange and treble good?
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I just bought the z5500. My first impression was, "what the hell? My 11-12 year old Altec Lansing ADA880 sounds better!" Was so disappointed and then started to fiddle with all the settings to try to improve the sound. But then I let it run in for a few hours, and then the sound started to get better. Goes to prove that it requires burn in and burn in is real. Or maybe after a while I became immune to the bad quality! lol, but no, I believe it just needed burn in.

With regards to the bass being too loud, I didn't feel that at all, not because I'm a basshead. I think mine's the new version and that they took the feedback about the over empowering bass and reduced it. Why do I say that? because at some point I thought my bass was not working. I was like WTF! My sub woofer is not working, I'll need to RMA and put my head/ear next to the sound outlet by the side of the sub woofer (aiya, I don't know how to describe la), and then I could feel some air coming out, so I was like "ok ok .. it works. The sub woofer was a bit tight at the start. Took a long time to loosen up and sound better.

Then I bought a Compass Amp and Denon D2000 & Sennheiser HD650 headphones. I don't use my speakers anymore sad.gif ... Can't stand the sound compared to the headphones. Like the speakers are making the songs worst! @.@ but need to listen to it when my ears can't take the headphones anymore @.@

BUT, conclusion is, today the z5500 sounds a lot better than it did during the first day. I run it through the Compass DAC/Amp via coaxial/rca. And it sounds better than my 12 year old Altec Lansing ADA880 smile.gif Thank God.
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QUOTE(shuto1 @ Nov 14 2009, 02:48 AM)
I just bought the z5500. My first impression was, "what the hell? My 11-12 year old Altec Lansing ADA880 sounds better!" Was so disappointed and then started to fiddle with all the settings to try to improve the sound. But then I let it run in for a few hours, and then the sound started to get better. Goes to prove that it requires burn in and burn in is real. Or maybe after a while I became immune to the bad quality! lol, but no, I believe it just needed burn in.

With regards to the bass being too loud, I didn't feel that at all, not because I'm a basshead. I think mine's the new version and that they took the feedback about the over empowering bass and reduced it. Why do I say that? because at some point I thought my bass was not working. I was like WTF! My sub woofer is not working, I'll need to RMA and put my head/ear next to the sound outlet by the side of the sub woofer (aiya, I don't know how to describe la), and then I could feel some air coming out, so I was like "ok ok .. it works. The sub woofer was a bit tight at the start. Took a long time to loosen up and sound better.

Then I bought a Compass Amp and Denon D2000 & Sennheiser HD650 headphones. I don't use my speakers anymore sad.gif ... Can't stand the sound compared to the headphones. Like the speakers are making the songs worst! @.@ but need to listen to it when my ears can't take the headphones anymore @.@

BUT, conclusion is, today the z5500 sounds a lot better than it did during the first day. I run it through the Compass DAC/Amp via coaxial/rca. And it sounds better than my 12 year old Altec Lansing ADA880 smile.gif Thank God.
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That's what happen to me while using my new Altec VS3251. I think next time just going to invest in the real deal. What i mean is real home theater systems.

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