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PC Audio Please Recommend... a 2.1 or 5.1 speaker set V3, Comparison and advice needed.

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post Nov 7 2009, 08:35 PM

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QUOTE(hexion @ Nov 6 2009, 11:36 PM)
compare to divoom,edifier,altec for RM360 price range, which one better??? i also wanna get x-540...but there is only 1 shop sell this in my town..pc depot...n the price is RM355..n i haven't test/listen 2 the speaker yet..i only watch the unbox and bass testing in utube..
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for <RM400 5.1, u can consider Edifier R501 as well.
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post Nov 8 2009, 01:46 AM

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QUOTE(narkon @ Nov 8 2009, 01:21 AM)
but it is 5.1...i would prefer 2.1 only because my room is not that big....but yaaa...z5500 is the best i guess...hurmmm...now im confuse again which one to buy..
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lol bro u still havnt got the "basshead" speaker until today?
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post Nov 8 2009, 02:43 PM

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QUOTE(narkon @ Nov 8 2009, 02:03 PM)
i dont have the chance to test z5500 yet...if i use only 2 satellites only, would the sound be not nice?...my budget are quite tight..if i take z5500, i cant buy a decent soundcard yet... im targeting 1000 for speaker and 400 for SC...but when u say i will change what i have consider if i ever listen to z5500, it make me think twice....

in your opinion, z5500 still can perform well without SC?...
not yet bro....i cant make up my mind yet....i want to find a really2 good speaker that confirm will statisfied me....i got budget 13++..sumthing around that...so im not sure which one is the best....i never test z5500 yet...i already test z Cinema and s730D...but aspire say both are no match for z5500...and make me start to think twice whether issit better for me to top up abit my speaker budget and buy the z5500 and put on hold on the sound card1st or buy zcinema or s730d or razer mako and yet can buy a decent SC...
now im not quite sure wheter to take 5.1 or 2.1 only...

tq for the opinion and advice.....i will consider it... nod.gif
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haha, im sure Z5500 will blast Zcinema away. i once heard its cranked up, not to the max though. if u compare Z5500 with S730 or S550, im pretty sure Z5500 has the edge in the sub. thats not because of the spec, because of the reviews and the fact that logitech is specialized in making bassy speakers. while edifier focus more on the highs than the lows.

at this review, at the conclusion it clearly suggest that the S550 (not S730) needs to be "lower" in frequency. i wonder if we share similar genres of speakers, you would want to find speakers with lower frequency response.

thus, i would go for speakers that has the lowest true frequency response, which is Z5500. but since im not a big fans of logitech i went for something else. although i must admit the control pod of the Z5500 is interesting. that is the part where logitech excels, their z680 and z5500 control pod, and their zcinema remote control.
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post Nov 8 2009, 08:50 PM

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QUOTE(narkon @ Nov 8 2009, 07:17 PM)
so Zcinema is a no no for me?

thanks for the link...but as u can see in the link,as what i understand, y the tester say that in term of quality and overall edi s550 is more better...y ya? i read the translate version,quite hard to understand fully what he is try to say... rclxub.gif

what does it mean by the suggestion for "need to be lower Frequency" for s550.....can explain more on that?

what did u get for your self? a speaker more superior that z5500?...
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it says the the bottom frequency response of S550 is much higher than Z5500. although it states 20hz - 20khz freq response, of course, the spec is not totally accurate. S550 start to be effective from 40hz onwards. im sure z5500 is lower, because when i audition Z5500 and S730, i can straight tell Z5500 has lower response.

yes the reviews do criticize Z5500 on using thin materials for the subwoofer enclosure which is ridiculous, as well as their one-way satellites compared to two-way in S550. but i can understand that their decoder needs developments etc, which shows that the price u pay went much for the decoder and control pod. as i said, upon looking at them u should know that bass lover would take Z5500 home and treble freak would buy S550.

hmm i didnt buy anything now. still using the old ifi. its more of a living room speakers compared to Z5500 which is computer speakers, therefore are not comparable. im currently waiting whether the new klipsch promedia 2.1 wireless exported to south-east asia market. if it does, surely get it. looks great. although it surely reach about 2010. now using my edifier R501 until i found a new replacement. Z5500 and S550 is too big for my room. lol.
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post Nov 12 2009, 04:41 AM

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QUOTE(aspire2oo6 @ Nov 10 2009, 09:24 PM)
For me i dont believe reviews. I believe my ears because even a speaker system cost 10k if the source is crappy it will sound crappy on tat 10k system.
Z-5500D is not only for bass u can tune its treble as well. Like i said your source matters. Currently i combine my z-5500D with Xonar D2X with Foobar thru ASIO. U should listen to it. Music have never been the same to me ever since.
My personal opinion i invest heavily on my speakers system because even the era from windows 95 to windows 7 your speaker still works fine. A computer system gets outdated within a year or 2.


Added on November 10, 2009, 9:25 pm

Basshead or not it depends on the placing of your subwoofer. You put your sub against different material it creates different effect. For me i put it against wood it creates a more warm bass then those noisy ones. If you put your sub against the air then it only creates noise
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well definitely, im just referring to the rightmark graphs. even though they may not be totally accurate, for the lower boundary, it gives a "clue" on how low the subwoofer can play.

i also agree that speakers does not depreciate quickly, so it's not bad for investment. the good thing is, speaker are quite versatile, can be used on many purpose, unlike something like graphic card, which have different interfaces and etc over years.

QUOTE(darkcurves @ Nov 12 2009, 04:33 AM)
Well, i bought Altec Lansing VS3251 and have to say quite disappointed with 5.1. Sounds crappy because most videos and all mp3 dont support it. Some games do and it's nice. I notice when i switch to 5.1 mode, alot of bass is lost. When i change to 2.1 (on my pc and speakers), seems to have more realistic bass. If i knew this earlier, i would have just bought 2.1. Anyone wanna buy my 1 week old system for RM350?
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dejavu, i am just reading this review and at the cons of Altec 3251 it says bass is eliminated in 5.1 mode. if you want more bass, u can tweak your soundcard or music software to produce more bass. of course it wouldnt always result in excellent bass reproduction.
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post Nov 15 2009, 05:43 PM

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C3 sounds nice but the bass is weak, especially for a sub that size. must tweak your soundcard till max then can obtain decent bass. i recommend u to listen first prior to purchase.

anyway for X540, it should compete with edifier R501. also 400 range.
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post Nov 15 2009, 09:54 PM

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yup because its not designed for boom2 party or gaming speakers. instead its for music, so in order to achieve great bass u need to crank it up till very loud.

i prefer R501 because it has bigger subwoofer, in loud volume it has capability to go beyond X540. X540 has stronger bass in medium volume, but when cranked up all the way, since it only has 5.25 inch sub then its physically limited. u can read reviews about R501, its a good speaker. but be sure to listen before making decision.
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post Dec 2 2009, 12:50 AM

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QUOTE(corad @ Dec 1 2009, 08:49 PM)
space constraint unfortunately. so still looking at 2.1 speakers. what would you suggest for 1.5k ? smile.gif
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u may want to try the jamo i300 or bose companion 5.

QUOTE(darkcurves @ Dec 2 2009, 12:42 AM)
Hmmm, didnt know Logitech also suffers from quality issues. Perhaps the one at the shop was an isolated incidentt? I am targetting Logitech Z-2300, the only system which offers 200watts for below RM600.
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i think almost all multimedia speakers producer suffer from quality issue... rarely see any brand produce perfect speakers...
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post Dec 3 2009, 10:41 PM

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i vote for the Edifier R501. some claims that the divoom comet D1 is decent. but i have no chance to audition them. do not recommend the creative and 3251. recently a forumer complaints about his newly bought 3251.
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post Jan 2 2010, 05:20 PM

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i vote for the R501. using it now. great speaker for the price.
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post Jan 6 2010, 11:08 AM

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QUOTE(darkcurves @ Jan 6 2010, 08:54 AM)
Even my Z2300 is kinda hot after blasting for about 20 minutes. Cant even touch the heatsink.
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i think almost all multimedia speakers emit any heat when cranked up.. but as long as it's within the limit it should not destroy the subwoofer.

worst music ive ever have is "DJ Billy E - Beats 4 My Van". its heating the subwoofer real fast. due to the low frequency of course.
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post Jan 20 2010, 02:25 PM

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QUOTE(fadhfuad @ Jan 18 2010, 08:59 PM)
Just got Logi X540 based on recommendations here. However got problem!! WHen im hearing extreme bass song, when I pump the volume PC hang. using on boad audio on p5Q Pro. Could you tell me whats happening?
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that used to happen to my old pentium4 system. turns out, yes the vibration shakes the CPU heatsink bracket and it appears the thermal gel have been dried as well. so the CPU loses contact with the heatsink, and gets hot. thats when its hang. do check the heatsink and fan and re-apply thermal gel when necessary. it would be even worse if your bracket is already loosen in the first place.
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post Jan 20 2010, 10:44 PM

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^ that may happen to PC with heatsink. u using watercooled solution?
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post Jan 28 2010, 11:53 PM

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that is done by upscaling the stereo. one fine example is foobar channel mixer. you get to set how the rear speaker sounds. u can also tweak the centre and subwoofer so the subwoofer can have more bass.

the only thing i hate about 5.1 is there much wires laying around. and, since i hung my speakers on wall it cant give me on-axis direction. unless my 5.1 speaker is adjustable.
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post Jan 30 2010, 05:13 PM

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QUOTE(kilowatt @ Jan 30 2010, 04:29 AM)
how about Altec Lansing MX6021...any 1 here use it ?
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i only auditioned it once. its much better than new-batch of MX5021. but still, at the same price with Klipsch GMX 2.1 (sg) the klipsch still has the edge. the control pod is abit weird, u have to push it to drag the volume up or down. not sure is there any wireless remote available or not..
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post Jan 30 2010, 08:48 PM

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the promedia line is already discontinued for asian market. 99% im sure its not available in msia and sg. even the 5.1 ultra version is only made in 120V version. promedia 5.1 ultra vs s750

price not sure... if u want to add amp, might as well get klipsch cinema set. cause it doesnt come with any amp. there is people selling klipsches cinema sets in the garage sales.


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post Jan 31 2010, 11:03 PM

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microlab i dont think its very bad. i've read some articles of it being dismantled (check my signature below : MM review). not as bad as sonic gear.

even the sonic gear armageddon a5 uses incomplete PCB board. terrible.

for RM100, edifier M1310 or maybe M1335 is a good choice.
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post Feb 4 2010, 07:39 PM

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QUOTE(-kytz- @ Feb 4 2010, 04:38 PM)
Guys

I'm pondering boutmy speaker purchase.

So, C3 vs S330?C3 has a much bigger satelite thus better sound effect and more room for sound vs S330 which has better bass.And yes, C3's satelites is made of wood and thus giving it a more "bookshelf" look rclxms.gif

Need some expert's help here as i don't really trust the quality of the songs played at the computer shops doh.gif

Usage: Music,gaming,movies icon_rolleyes.gif
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imo, the C3 sound better than S330. probably because i prefer C3's midrange more over S330's clarity. both has its strength. but still, having heard of both, C3 gets my vote. however in the end i settled for R501 which also sells at the same price.

and for the C3 weak bass. im sure there are ways to improve it (i.e soundcard or software or mod).
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post Feb 4 2010, 08:17 PM

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QUOTE(-kytz- @ Feb 4 2010, 08:00 PM)
Thanks for the useful post smile.gif

But somehow, i couldn't really test both of them properly.Most of the time the demo units are just too old already and yeah...the songs they play aren't even 320kbps i reckon sweat.gif

Any place where i can really audition them properly?I don't wanna make the wrong decision sad.gif
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haha yea shops dont even play 320kbps mp3... some just use any songs that they have to demo.. anyway i dont know much about which shops provide best listening experience. just wait from some others' words. anyway, links for you, the frequency graph and what's inside both speakers : C3 and S330D
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yes both are MDF. just the paint finishes are not the same.

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