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BuilderBalls
post May 15 2010, 02:35 AM

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try d dymatize elite whey...wont dissapoint u smile.gif
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post May 15 2010, 11:32 AM

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QUOTE(arekey @ Oct 22 2009, 12:57 PM)
Conclusion is go for 100% gold standard whey.
Just to add a note:
For many years, egg protein was considered the best source. It is still the best natural source. It has a complete protein profile and is easily digested and absorbed.

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Are you sent here to promote ON 100% by ON? How much they paid you for this job? Can i apply for the job too?

Anyway, you're one of those guys who always over-complicate things. Protein is protein, be it iso or concentrate. Eggs or beef or chicken or whey or shit. They're all protein.

What you need to follow is, eat up to 1-1.5g per bodyweight in lb. U need to eat that much of protein, regardless of where it came from.

You see, if you dont eat enough protein, and all you do is to talk-shit about this is more efficient and that is more effiecnt, eggs albumin bla bla bla , ON OFF 1000% whey. Given the most expensive whey in the world, u dont grow. Why? because u dont eat enough.

Who would u bet on?

On your left : A guy who lectures on protein but take 50g of protein per day?
On your right: A guy who eat 200-250g of protein per day and train like hell , and know nuts about protein ?
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post May 15 2010, 12:04 PM

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QUOTE(david890701 @ May 15 2010, 11:32 AM)
Are you sent here to promote ON 100% by ON? How much they paid you for this job? Can i apply for the job too?

Anyway, you're one of those guys who always over-complicate things. Protein is protein, be it iso or concentrate. Eggs or beef or chicken or whey or shit. They're all protein.

What you need to follow is, eat up to 1-1.5g per bodyweight in lb. U need to eat that much of protein, regardless of where it came from.

You see, if you dont eat enough protein, and all you do is to talk-shit about this is more efficient and that is more effiecnt, eggs albumin bla bla bla , ON OFF 1000% whey (lol-ed at this). Given the most expensive whey in the world, u dont grow. Why? because u dont eat enough.

Who would u bet on?

On your left : A guy who lectures on protein but take 50g of protein per day?
On your right: A guy who eat 200-250g of protein per day and train like hell , and know nuts about protein ?
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its all in the diet man. ive friends who don noe how to do most of the lifts in gym. yet they're still bigger and stronger than me. spam the protein and just lift, bodyweight exercises and weighted bw as well.

This post has been edited by cheezzzz: May 15 2010, 12:05 PM
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post May 15 2010, 12:28 PM

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QUOTE(arekey @ Oct 22 2009, 12:57 PM)
Conclusion is go for 100% gold standard whey.
Just to add a note:
For many years, egg protein was considered the best source. It is still the best natural source. It has a complete protein profile and is easily digested and absorbed.

Why Use Bodybuilding Supplements?
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

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QUOTE(david890701 @ May 15 2010, 11:32 AM)
Are you sent here to promote ON 100% by ON? How much they paid you for this job? Can i apply for the job too?

Anyway, you're one of those guys who always over-complicate things. Protein is protein, be it iso or concentrate. Eggs or beef or chicken or whey or shit. They're all protein.

What you need to follow is, eat up to 1-1.5g per bodyweight in lb. U need to eat that much of protein, regardless of where it came from.

You see, if you dont eat enough protein, and all you do is to talk-shit about this is more efficient and that is more effiecnt, eggs albumin bla bla bla , ON OFF 1000% whey. Given the most expensive whey in the world, u dont grow. Why? because u dont eat enough.

Who would u bet on?

On your left : A guy who lectures on protein but take 50g of protein per day?
On your right: A guy who eat 200-250g of protein per day and train like hell , and know nuts about protein ?
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post May 15 2010, 12:45 PM

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Just eat, lift and rest.

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post May 15 2010, 12:51 PM

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It is wrong to assume that all protein sources are alike. You cannot compare milk protein to beef protein for instance.

Both are composed of entirely different things, and have different absorption rates, nutrients, bioavailability.. and so many other things.

It is important to hit daily macros, especially protein when it comes to building muscle, in this way protein is protein. But they are NOT all the same thing. The average trainee should not worry about timing their different kinds of proteins, but as you progress and learn more about nutrition and your body, this will help you alot.

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post May 15 2010, 02:33 PM

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I want a Peanut Butter Protein...
i want Peanut Butter PROTEINNNNNN

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post May 18 2010, 07:01 PM

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Is it okay if i take whey protein 3 times a day + animalpak multivitamin? Will it cause alot of stress to my kidneys? I drink around 10 cups of water a day.
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post May 18 2010, 07:27 PM

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QUOTE(ecVk @ May 18 2010, 07:01 PM)
Is it okay if i take whey protein 3 times a day + animalpak multivitamin? Will it cause alot of stress to my kidneys? I drink around 10 cups of water a day.
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post May 18 2010, 08:44 PM

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QUOTE(ecVk @ May 18 2010, 07:01 PM)
Is it okay if i take whey protein 3 times a day + animalpak multivitamin? Will it cause alot of stress to my kidneys? I drink around 10 cups of water a day.
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you need to drink MORE water. 10 cups is only 2.5litres. I drink that much during my workout alone..

Aim for at least a gallon a day.(1 US gallon = 3.78541178 litre)

Also, high protein diets and high doses of vitamins will surely tax your liver/kidney more than usual, there is no escaping that.

Issit safe in the long run? Well, much safer than what you put your body through when we consume alcohol, so you do the math smile.gif
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post May 19 2010, 03:51 AM

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QUOTE(ecVk @ May 18 2010, 07:01 PM)
Is it okay if i take whey protein 3 times a day + animalpak multivitamin? Will it cause alot of stress to my kidneys? I drink around 10 cups of water a day.
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Yes. No stress on kidneys unless you're having renal pathology. Common sense drink more water. But don't drink till you explode and die.
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post May 19 2010, 09:12 AM

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QUOTE(tineagle @ May 15 2010, 12:51 PM)
It is wrong to assume that all protein sources are alike. You cannot compare milk protein to beef protein for instance.

Both are composed of entirely different things, and have different absorption rates, nutrients, bioavailability.. and so many other things.

It is important to hit daily macros, especially protein when it comes to building muscle, in this way protein is protein.  But they are NOT all the same thing.  The average trainee should not worry about timing their different kinds of proteins, but as you progress and learn more about nutrition and your body, this will help you alot.
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You are right. Proteins are not created equal. They have different amino acid profile. Red meats are different from white meat. Whole egg have higher biological value than meats. We should eat different protein food to get the benefits from each source.
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post May 19 2010, 08:34 PM

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Is whey protein a good step for person who in the process of losing weight but in the same time build muscle?

how about instead of taking it normally like other person, losing weight people only take it twice a day.

First with oat on breakfast. Second, post workout.
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post May 19 2010, 09:57 PM

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QUOTE(Cotton Diesel @ May 19 2010, 08:34 PM)
Is whey protein a good step for person who in the process of losing weight but in the same time build muscle?

how about instead of taking it normally like other person, losing weight people only take it twice a day.

First with oat on breakfast. Second, post workout.
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How you use whey can help you with weight loss.

Whey is calories, but compared to solid food, the calories come mostly from protein and not carbs/fats. Therefore taking it as a meal replacement or snack over junk food/ dirty food can keep you full with clean calories.

At the end of the day, its your caloric deficit that will make you lose weight. 1 scoop of whey consists of 120-160calories; and it may be able to keep you full and away from food cravings where you over indulge and end up with a caloric surplus.
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post May 19 2010, 10:03 PM

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so, can i put it like this

breakfast
oat+whey+fruits [blend]

lunch
a piece of chicken [not fried] + veges

post workout
whey

dinner rice +meat

this is for weight loss

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post May 19 2010, 10:30 PM

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QUOTE(Cotton Diesel @ May 19 2010, 10:03 PM)
so, can i put it like this

breakfast
oat+whey+fruits [blend]

lunch
a piece of chicken [not fried] + veges

post workout
whey

dinner rice +meat

this is for weight loss
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yeah, sounds good.

If you get hungry in between meas, snack on fruits n veges.
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post May 20 2010, 04:48 AM

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thanks mate. however, gonna workout for 3 months first without any supplement. gonna use the original source from my body first.
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post May 20 2010, 10:38 AM

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QUOTE(Cotton Diesel @ May 20 2010, 04:48 AM)
thanks mate. however, gonna workout for 3 months first without any supplement. gonna use the original source from my body first.
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post May 20 2010, 10:46 AM

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QUOTE(ecVk @ May 18 2010, 07:01 PM)
Is it okay if i take whey protein 3 times a day + animalpak multivitamin? Will it cause alot of stress to my kidneys? I drink around 10 cups of water a day.
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i take 2 pak everyday.
i've never had any piss colors other than glowing green.

This post has been edited by ReonLim83: May 20 2010, 10:47 AM
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post May 20 2010, 05:12 PM

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QUOTE(david890701 @ May 15 2010, 12:32 PM)
Are you sent here to promote ON 100% by ON? How much they paid you for this job? Can i apply for the job too?

Anyway, you're one of those guys who always over-complicate things. Protein is protein, be it iso or concentrate. Eggs or beef or chicken or whey or shit. They're all protein.

What you need to follow is, eat up to 1-1.5g per bodyweight in lb. U need to eat that much of protein, regardless of where it came from.

You see, if you dont eat enough protein, and all you do is to talk-shit about this is more efficient and that is more effiecnt, eggs albumin bla bla bla , ON OFF 1000% whey. Given the most expensive whey in the world, u dont grow. Why? because u dont eat enough.

Who would u bet on?

On your left : A guy who lectures on protein but take 50g of protein per day?
On your right: A guy who eat 200-250g of protein per day and train like hell , and know nuts about protein ?
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