Well go ahead, i dont really care what u "arekey" say about me. But if let say some other say so, i might consider, but u?

Weider Jr is back

Bro,am willing to explain a bit this time!

We prefer to get normal whey as its cheaper!

Why?

As you said egg is important,am a heavy egg eater and i know that,means that we already have egg in our diet.

Essential amino acids are obtained from our diet and the non-essential ones the body can manufacture.

Most of the regulars here already know this so why spend more on supplements??

Spend the extra money on natural food will be better!

Megamass has too much carbs and not enough protein per scoop!

This thread is getting interesting. lol!

Amen to that! LOL!
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I recommend:
Buying pure whey from 4Rings.
or ON Whey.

No need for fancy-pansy stuff like Pro Complex or Syntha6million or Appeton Weight Gain or Nucleartech or iamyuanwu-freaking-awesome-godzilla-whey.

If I want a weight gainer: I just add glucose/maltodextrin/Vitargo into my whey, eat lots of bananas, eat lots of eggs.

As for blends of egg albumin, egg yolk, whey isolates, whey concentrates, whey super-duper isolates etc... no need to bother lah. They all do the same thing: give you protein quick and easy.

Oh, no need to bother with the amino acid sh!t. Protein IS amino acid. LOL!

If Pro Complex works wonders you could post a pic of yourself? I might give it a shot if you were huge and ripped. Otherwise my preferences would be Dymatize Elite Whey or ON, they cost the same. Or if you on tight budget then I would suggest you contact pizzaboy's supplier or 4Rings.

Yeah thats the point. normal people like me do not eat egg regular or heavy like you do.

that's why 100% whey is perfectly fit for you and other that have egg on their diet.

But me?? need pro complex to match your diet.
The technical behind the pro complex is by combining these protien (whey+egg) is to maximize the uptake of these amino acids and minimize the premature breakdown of amino acid cause by too rapid absorbtion.

why i spend more money on pro complex is because i'm not heavy egg eater while you can spend you save at egg.

Pro complex is for post workout to accelerate recovery. megamass is for pre workout to add some energy.

it's true megamass has low on protien, but you can get extra protien from your diet.

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Added on October 20, 2009, 8:34 amI'm am junior, seniorrr.
Anything that work for you just share here so we don't have to listen to the marketing hype like nitrotech.
I'm geting advice from my trainer too.
Just wanna share the info and outcome

This post has been edited by arekey: Oct 20 2009, 08:38 AM

relax guys, this is just some opinions la..results vary from each other..anyway, are u an expert in nutrient arkey?..anyway, all this supplements is all about money..mosy ppl can't afford..rather then buying supplements, ppl go for real food for growth..supplements, i think helps only a lil bit..is either u're going for ripped or going for size, i think it's solely on diet..that's all..have a look at Kevin Levrone..he's doing the natural way,and he grows due to proper food and training..which, i doubt most of us in here can achieve that..well except for kmaru coz he's a bodybuilder..he knows the way..

u can get the best brands or wat soever supplements u can get, but if u're real food is not quality one, i doubt u're gonna grow..hey, maybe it's just me, coz i take only protein and glutamine,but so far, my gf and frens says that i'm in better shape compare to last time, and i seriously think that it's down to my food intake..

and don't la condemn2 ppl arkey..we're her to juz share xperience and results..juz take it as it is la..relax bro..

seems like u manage to nail ur problem but u still prefer to be ignorant and drown in the mist of supplement. Smart.

U LOVE TO compare and when u lose out u will start using the word "u r advance, u r senior or watever " and yet u want to speak so loud tat as if u r a super duper ultimate pro. Good that u realize how "junior" u r so i think the best way to solve ur issue is to stop whining around and saying this supplement is ultimate and it do miracle, or may be u dont know that every product do come from "raw material".

By the way, now I really c a good example of self conceit.

No I'm Not.

Mind to share your protien and glutamin type and brand. we might try it

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Added on October 20, 2009, 10:23 amI'm not having diet like BB do. That's why i'm relying on supplement.



This post has been edited by arekey: Oct 20 2009, 10:23 AM

Huh?
The whole point of taking supplements like whey or egg protein powders is because we can't get enough from food sources.

You're getting the whole concept backwards: you are taking the supplements as the main protein source, and using food to supplement your 'supplements'.

BTW, your body doesn't break down amino acids into nothing. It breaks down protein INTO amino acids (AA), then absorbs the AA.

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Is the rate of protein absorption really that important?
Anyone care to give their opinions? I don't really know because I've never bothered with it.

i use the syntha 6 on my off days,which i drink it before i go to sleep..and on training days i use Ultimate Nutrition..Glutamine, jz a normal one..the EGO brand..last time use ultimate nutrition.

btw bro, it's not about having a bb diet la..u can search and google on how to get a body like say Arnold, Hugh Jackman, Bradd pitt..there they share all info from diet to training..sure can get one..if not 100%, at least almost similar consider ok la..

No i don't. Food still main source protien. just don't like eating boil egg and eat 6 times a day. Only i eat a lot of chiken.

That why i'm choosing Protien supplement which contain egg ablument profile.

Pro complex now suit to my profile and i've done my research. It's work but pricey.

If i'm eating egg, 100% whey just enough.

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Added on October 20, 2009, 1:32 pmwow 2 brand of protien.
syntha 6 also have egg ablumin. that makes the product work i think (Based on my experience).
from what i read from the user, the flavor is delicios. rite?

This post has been edited by arekey: Oct 20 2009, 01:32 PM

actually not all whey are created equal. There are 2 types, whey protein isolate & whey protein concentrate. From my limited knowledge, whey protein isolate is more expensive. Not sure whether its better or not. On Whey is an example of whey protein isolate. For me, cost is important (since I take a lot of whey), so I am using Scivation Whey (10lbs for Rm300). Its whey protein concentrate. The only difference I find between ON & Scivation is that I get really thirsty after drinking ON whey. Other then that, haven't really noticed much difference. BTW anyone here using the whey 4Rings is selling? Price is really tempting .

The difference of isolate and concentrate is the pureness of the whey in the raw material.
Isolates (of any protein e.g. whey, soy, egg) is more pure. Up to 97% (if I'm not mistaken).
Concentrates are lower in purity. That means the raw material contains 85-90% of whey/soy/egg/etc.

Manufacturers (ON, BSN, Muscletech, Amway, Nutrilite, etc) buy these WPI or WPC... then add in colourings, flavourings, carbs, etc.
Then *poof*, you've got your product.

It doesn't matter WPI or WPC they use. It's the protein content which matters.
If a brand uses WPC but adds very little crap, you'll still get a good product with high protein %.
If another brand uses WPI, but adds a tonne of carbs (which is dirt cheap), ash etc. Then you get lower protein %. <-- not so value for money.

Probably the the artificial sweetener in ON Whey is causing the thirst.

You think you know it all, but it's just your opinion...everyone has a right to their own opinion, however no one has a right to their own facts...so, let's just stop here and let others share their experiences in consuming proteins...

i think besides ON Gold Standard 100% Whey and Xtend Scivation, Dymatize Elite Whey looks promising...anybody has tried this ??

I tried ON's Pro Complex (due to the fact it was on a discount, if I remembered correctly), didn't really get any significant difference in terms of recovery and slower digestion of protein and so on, was hungry in a short while after taking it anyways.

Except it tasted better than the ON gold standard whey.

Just wanna add, different protein sources have distinct amino acid profiles and utilization rates

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Added on October 20, 2009, 4:08 pmThis protien shake will open up your appetite.It's normal
So after Pro Complex fail. did you switch to another brand/type??
Pls Share your experience especially Protien that work for you.

This post has been edited by arekey: Oct 20 2009, 04:10 PM

Went back to regular ON Gold Standard Whey and some other brand whey which I can't remembered (when it was cheaper).

End results: better for my wallet.

I rather just spend my money on normal whey and creatine. How big a difference would it make anyway? Using Dymatize Elite Whey now, about the same as ON only la. Berry Blast doesn't taste that good in water, but damn nice with milk/ soyabean.