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darklight79
post May 15 2010, 12:28 PM

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QUOTE(arekey @ Oct 22 2009, 12:57 PM)
Conclusion is go for 100% gold standard whey.
Just to add a note:
For many years, egg protein was considered the best source. It is still the best natural source. It has a complete protein profile and is easily digested and absorbed.

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QUOTE(david890701 @ May 15 2010, 11:32 AM)
Are you sent here to promote ON 100% by ON? How much they paid you for this job? Can i apply for the job too?

Anyway, you're one of those guys who always over-complicate things. Protein is protein, be it iso or concentrate. Eggs or beef or chicken or whey or shit. They're all protein.

What you need to follow is, eat up to 1-1.5g per bodyweight in lb. U need to eat that much of protein, regardless of where it came from.

You see, if you dont eat enough protein, and all you do is to talk-shit about this is more efficient and that is more effiecnt, eggs albumin bla bla bla , ON OFF 1000% whey. Given the most expensive whey in the world, u dont grow. Why? because u dont eat enough.

Who would u bet on?

On your left : A guy who lectures on protein but take 50g of protein per day?
On your right: A guy who eat 200-250g of protein per day and train like hell , and know nuts about protein ?
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Both of you aren't wrong.
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post May 19 2010, 03:51 AM

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QUOTE(ecVk @ May 18 2010, 07:01 PM)
Is it okay if i take whey protein 3 times a day + animalpak multivitamin? Will it cause alot of stress to my kidneys? I drink around 10 cups of water a day.
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Yes. No stress on kidneys unless you're having renal pathology. Common sense drink more water. But don't drink till you explode and die.
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post Jun 14 2010, 02:15 PM

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QUOTE(-Nos- @ Jun 13 2010, 02:19 PM)
Guys, have a question here about which protein to chose.

I'm thinking to get either MuscleTech NitroTech or Myofusion as a mean of supplement.
I'm going to the gym 5 days a week.
I dont really want to grow too big muscles, just a lean body.
which is more suitable for me?

Please advice.
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Lol. Muscletech - overpriced shit. Want to waste your money sure go ahead.

And the way you talk is like it's soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo easy to get muscles when it takes so many years. Stop acting like you'll grow too huge when you touch a pair of 5lb pinkies and JFT (just f***ing train)
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post Jun 16 2010, 10:37 PM

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QUOTE(-Nos- @ Jun 14 2010, 05:50 PM)
hello?

in which way makes you perceive that i think its sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo easy to get muscles?
i believe there are different supplements for different use.
That is because somebody recommend some mass thingy to me before.

please dont act like a sage and act as if i-know-it-all here.
if you dont intend to help just skip, i'm sure there are some sincere people here willing to comment.
thanks.
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QUOTE(-Nos- @ Jun 14 2010, 06:37 PM)
hahahaha
really?
those newbies are encouraged to ask but in the end got such sarcastic replies. lulz
i admit i'm new to all this.
the so called seniors/ 'pro' acting like they are so helpful and all but... lulz
such hypocrisy
anyway, thanks for your earlier suggestion. i've decided to get myofusion.
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Oh my. A touch too defensive aren't we? I never intended my post to be disparaging, I don't think you're used to my sort of humor yet but I'm among one of the more newbie friendly regs in this section.

Hence, I'll apologize for the fact that you misconstrued me wrongly but I'm not going to apologize for my normal manner of posting.

QUOTE(Neek @ Jun 15 2010, 02:31 PM)
The fact that you said in  your earlier post "i dont want so big muscles"
its not easy getting big muscles. heck, getting medium muscles is already hard!!! forget big.
but anyways, you'll know when u start training longer.

for some strange reason the general public have a perception that muscles are easy to build, fat is hard to lose. its actually the opposite. which is why they dont have some tv program called "The Biggest Gainer". probably cos that show will have to go on for several years.
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I hear ya bro. Even though they're innocently ignorant statements, sometimes I get seriously tested when I hear the same line over and over again.
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post Jun 19 2010, 10:48 PM

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QUOTE(law1777 @ Jun 19 2010, 06:46 PM)
ON is tasteless, higher cholesterol and lower calcium % than Dymatize but wth ON is always the one who got those awards shakehead.gif

anyway its just in my oppinion i think Dymatize suited me better bcoz it is still out of stock at my place so im forced to give ON a try nod.gif

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You guys do know that we need cholesterol to convert to testosterone right?
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post Jun 20 2010, 01:20 PM

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QUOTE(law1777 @ Jun 20 2010, 12:13 PM)
yeap. i prefer lower cholesterol bcoz of my personal blood test results. my cholesterol is still higher than the 'acceptable' digits
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You might be a hyper responder. Ive been eating 5 yolks or more a day, my blood cholesterol is perfect. Low HDL, high LDL and very very low triglycerides. Plus i have a cheat meal twice a week consisting of triple maggi goreng and a lot of fried stuff.
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post Jun 20 2010, 01:33 PM

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QUOTE(iamyuanwu @ Jun 20 2010, 01:31 PM)
Darklight's blood cholesterol only goes up if he ingests kryptonite.
Heh heh! =P
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But it goes down when I smoke shisha. wink.gif

Wonder hows Kmaru doing at the comp today.
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post Jun 20 2010, 07:57 PM

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QUOTE(kurtkob78 @ Jun 20 2010, 03:30 PM)
darklight i like your cheat meal. But I have 2 cheat day. sigh that's why not much progress in my cut.
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I cheat on Sat and Sun. Lol. But I've started doing cardio for a month dy. Chicaman has saw
my fat loss progress.
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post Jun 20 2010, 08:46 PM

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QUOTE(chicaman @ Jun 20 2010, 08:24 PM)
sat and sun is my rest and cheat day~ been loading a lot of sugar and carbs lol. next week must not cheat that much tongue.gif

darklight u are lean enough already LOL. btw whats ur cardio workout like? seperated day on treadmill?
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After or separate days from workouts. I make it a point to have at least 3 or 4 sessions.
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post Jun 21 2010, 12:35 AM

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QUOTE(John91 @ Jun 20 2010, 03:20 PM)
And wildcat.
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Lol the fella tried to masuk open category. Too small, had to downgrade to juniors.

QUOTE(kobe8byrant @ Jun 20 2010, 09:11 PM)
How long each run?
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30 - 45 mins.
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post Jun 25 2010, 07:41 PM

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QUOTE(MelForC3 @ Jun 25 2010, 03:31 PM)
haha i was reading the first few post..it looks like have some misunderstanding there but i didnt read the back yet because stil in office lol..boss was looking =="

Hm...i plan to buy on nitrotech because when i consulted a few person they said is a very popular choice right now. Before this i was taking 100% whey but the effect doesnt seems to be visible perhaps my workout not too frequent enough.

But thanks for the information, i'll try one then wait for the result he3..
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You're 100% wrong. I can bet you a hundred bucks that you think whey protein is a magic potion and that if you think you were to change brands, you'll see instant results. Doesn't work that way bro, no offense.

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post Jun 26 2010, 12:36 PM

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Changing whey protein brands won't make a huge difference. Everyone here's telling you the same thing. Nitrotech is overpriced crap. The person you consulted with doesn't know much doesn't he?

Things to prioritize in tweaking when you're not happy with progress:-
1. diet
2. Training
3. Last : supplements
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post Jun 26 2010, 01:19 PM

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QUOTE(MelForC3 @ Jun 26 2010, 01:07 PM)
thats what i eat for most of the day...bout 2 eggs per day sometimes...

nuts as well...
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See bro. I hope you can see the pattern here alright. If the beginner, intermediate and advanced lifters are telling you that you should rely more on protein from natural foods, then it's something that's very noteworthy to
listen to.

Food proteins have been proven to be scientifically superior to supplement protein. If you see the videos of every IFBB Pro Bodybuilder, always natural foods for breakfast. I eat 30 - 36 eggs a day. Obviously you don't need that much but you get the idea. Supplements HELP you, they don't do the job for you.
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post Jun 26 2010, 01:53 PM

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QUOTE(MelForC3 @ Jun 26 2010, 01:30 PM)
@@" ok, then?? so, in conclusion?? what are you trying to say?

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Someone please help me. Dan? John? Chica? Anyone?
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post Jun 26 2010, 02:28 PM

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QUOTE(angrydog @ Jun 26 2010, 02:22 PM)
In conclusion, you're pretty much going to look the same for the foreseeable future.
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QUOTE(ReonLim83 @ Jun 26 2010, 02:26 PM)
i cant stop laughing now.
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I seriously dunno what to say. I gave that fella clear cut explanation and advice. And he's still asking me what's the conclusion. Is there something wrong with my English? Didn't I take the liberty to elucidate myself with alacrity instead of replying in the ubiquitous manner which some trolls at bb.com do?

Gawd.

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post Jun 26 2010, 03:32 PM

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QUOTE(zalmerox @ Jun 26 2010, 03:30 PM)
No.
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Nitrotech = Overpriced Crap
If Nitrotech = Overpriced Crap,  Nitrotech != Good
Hence Nitrotech = Suxxor.
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Conclusion, go for natural food(eggs), or a cheaper brand. (Scivation, Egonutritions, ON, GNC, bla bla)
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post Jun 29 2010, 03:39 PM

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QUOTE(ReonLim83 @ Jun 29 2010, 10:41 AM)
Have you seen their research facilities? LOL
Clinical Studies pulak, Clinical test? or wat is it that they called?
Tested on human subject, see their growth, etc etc...
then their studies, to make it much more efficient to absorb. etc etc.
small partical etc etc etc... ah i dont know how to explain.


Added on June 29, 2010, 10:43 am

A friend of mine open a supp shop, at kuching.
so when i place order he'll put under his shop's order, then when he came down to kl he'll bring it or he'll post it up to me.


Added on June 29, 2010, 10:45 ambut all in all, the best way to see is not by looking at labels or how much protein it contains per serving etc etc etc, just have to try it out yourself and see which work best for you, to achieve your goals, not everything is the same like in a text book. you have to try it out find it out yourself.
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Of course the company would tell you that they've done clinical studies. Just like they've supposedly done the same thing for GAKIC and LEUKIC and everything else. It's common knowledge supplement companies will only claim such.
Which is why it's called a sales gimmick. Whey is still whey. There's a reason why ON Whey has still topped bb.com 5 years in a row as best selling and best voted protein supplement. =P I still
remember terry's quote when we were chilling at mamak: big guys don't use muscle tech.

It's a decent product though, not take anything away from it but grossly exagerrated and grossly
overpriced.
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post Jun 29 2010, 10:58 PM

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QUOTE(ReonLim83 @ Jun 29 2010, 07:50 PM)
ah yes absolutely right, pro complex and lava.


Added on June 29, 2010, 7:58 pm

LOL
True, back to back protein is protein.
But have you tried the Nitrotech Pro series flavours?
Try cookies and cream, damn thats the best flavour i've ever tasted ever (for whey)
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Dunno la bro. Been tempted sometimes but the price turns me off. But I know they upgraded their protein content to 25 grams per scoop as opposed to the 22 grams. That's a good improvement. Still... the price... grrr...
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post Jun 30 2010, 10:59 AM

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QUOTE(jamis @ Jun 30 2010, 10:54 AM)
Sponsored big guys take muscletech coz its free lol.

Reom: How do u feel on the vapor? my fren tried and he said the taste is bad and no much effect (he prefer bsn N.O thou).

I made a huge mistake, i take 100 - 150g of chicken and the weight is as it is raw, aft cook left with 60% of the weight, guess i m taking less protein ><. Instead of 30g it left with 20g T.T
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Sup. How's training? Omg Xtend Grape tastes awesome!
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post Jun 30 2010, 11:54 AM

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QUOTE(jamis @ Jun 30 2010, 11:15 AM)
Squat morality drops horribly lol.
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