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Honours:
Division One Champions: 1908, 1911, 1952, 1956, 1957, 1965, 1967.
Premiership: 1993, 1994, 1996, 1997, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2003, 2007, 2008, 2009

European Cup: 1968, 1999, 2008
European Cup-Winners' Cup: 1991
European Super Cup: 1991
FA Charity/Community Shield: 1908, 1911, 1952, 1956, 1957, 1965, 1967, 1977, 1983, 1990, 1993, 1994, 1996, 1993, 2003, 2007, 2008
FA Cup Winners: 1909, 1948, 1963, 1977, 1983, 1985, 1990, 1994, 1996, 1999, 2004
League Cup Winners: 1992, 2006, 2009
Toyota Inter-continental Cup Winners: 1999
FIFA Club World Cup: 2008

Managers:
Alex Ferguson 06-11-1986 Present
Ron Atkinson 01-06-1981 06-11-1986
Dave Sexton 14-07-1977 01-04-1981
Tommy Docherty 22-12-1972 03-07-1977
Frank O'Farrell 08-06-1971 19-12-1972
Matt Busby 28-12-1970 02-06-1971
Wilf McGuinness 10-08-1970 28-12-1970
Matt Busby 01-02-1945 08-06-1969
Walter Crickmer 01-08-1944 01-02-1945
Jimmy Porter 01-08-1938 31-05-1944
Scott Duncan 01-06-1932 01-09-1937
Walter Crickmer 01-04-1931 01-06-1932
Herbert Bamlett 01-04-1927 01-04-1931
Clarence Hildrith 01-10-1926 01-04-1927
John Chapman 01-10-1921 01-10-1926
John Robson 01-12-1914 01-10-1921
Ernest Magnall 01-09-1900 01-09-1912

Record Home Attendance: 76,098 31/3/2007 Premier League (Man Utd vs Blackburn) (83,260 for United v Arsenal at Maine Road in 1948)

Record league win: 10-1 v Wolves 15/10/1892 Division 1

Record league defeat: 0-7 v Blackburn 10/4/1926 Division 1

Record league appearances: 606 Sir Bobby Charlton 1956/73

Record league goalscorer: 199 Sir Bobby Charlton 1956/73

Record transfer fee received: 80,000,000 pounds for Cristiano Ronaldo to Real Madrid July 2009

Record transfer fee paid: 30,750 000 pounds for Dimitar Berbatov from Tottenham (August 2008)


AS the world's biggest and richest club, Manchester United reach a global fanbase.

Part of the attraction for fans around the world has been the football luminaries, such as George Best and Sir Bobby Charlton, who have graced the Old Trafford turf in a Manchester United shirt over the years.

Recently, Manchester United have continued to attract or develop some of the game's biggest names, with England stalwarts such as Paul Scholes and David Beckham having been regular fixtures in the Reds line-up.

The Manchester United team, past and present, reads like a who's who of world football.

It is only fitting that a great team should grace a great stadium. And with Old Trafford's recent development and the closure of Wembley, the ground is easily the largest in English football, holding in excess of 60,000 fans.

Despite this capacity, the demand to see United in action is so great that tickets are hard to come by.

But it isn't only Manchester United fans who flock to Old Trafford. The standard of the ground is such that it regularly hosts high-profile games, most notably, the Champions League Final and Great Britain rugby league games.

Rock fans have also made use of the Reds's facilities, watching a number of high-profile acts at the ground.

But it's football that will forever be synonymous with the Reds famous ground - and with good reason.

The last decade has seen Manchester United under the shrewd leadership of Sir Alex Ferguson maintain a virtual stranglehold on the Premiership crown.

Manchester United has won the league no fewer than 17 times in their history - 10 times in the last 11 seasons. They are also Cup Kings too, winning the FA cup 11 times, the league cup twice, as well as winning the European Super Cup, European Cup Winner's Cup, and 3 times being crowned European Cup champions.

Manchester United has long become a name associated with success both on and off the pitch.

As club profits continue to grow, Manchester United have become one of the richest sports clubs on the planet.

With supporters club branches on every continent, it's hard to go any where in the world and not see somebody wearing the famous red shirt of Manchester United.

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Nickname: The Red Devils

Ground: Old Trafford

Pitch Size: 116 x 76 yards (106.0704 x 69.4944 meter)

Capacity: 76,000

Address: Sir Matt Busby Way, Old Trafford, Manchester

Postcode: M160RA

Directions: From North: Leave the M60 at junction 12 for M602 (Salford / Manchester). At the end of M602 (Jtn 3) follow the signs for Salford Quays and Trafford Park. At the roundabout turn right into Trafford Road (A5063), then at the bridge over Manchester Ship canal, keep in the right hand lane and turn right. Next, follow this road round to Trafford Wharf Road, and then left onto Watersreach. Continue through the traffic lights onto Sir Matt Busby Way.

From South: Leave M6 at junction 19, then take the A56 towards Manchester Airport. Join the M56 to Manchester, going past the Airport and then follow the signs for the M60 (Leeds / Liverpool). Leave M60 at Jtn 7 (A56 Chester Road) following signs for Manchester United Football Club. Turn left into Sir Matt Busby Way.

Ticket prices: 25 pounds upwards, concessions from 12.50 pounds. Tickets for the home sections are usually only available to members of the club and are normally allocated by ballot.

Contact information: Ticket Office: 0161 868 8020
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22/10 | 00:25 | ESPN | Away | CSKA Moscow | UCL

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Previous Match (Man Utd v Sunderland)

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Season 2009/2010 Fixtures

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July 2009
18 Jul Pre-season Malaysian XI A [W 3-2 | Rooney, Nani, Owen]
20 Jul Pre-season Malaysian XI A [W 2-0 | Macheda, Owen]
24 Jul Pre-season FC Seoul A [W 3-2 | Rooney, Macheda, Berbatov]
26 Jul Pre-season Hangzhou Greentown A [W 8-2 | Owen, Berbatov, Tosic, Owen, Nani, Giggs, Giggs, Giggs]
29 Jul Audi Cup Boca Juniors A [W 2-1 | Anderson, Valencia]
30 Jul Audi Cup Bayern Munich A [D 0-0, Lose 6-7 On Penalties]

August 2009
05 Aug Pre-season Valencia CF H [W 2-0 | Rooney, Cleverly]
09 Aug Community Shield Chelsea A [D 2-2, Lose 1-4 On Penalties | Nani, Rooney]
16 Aug Barclays Premier League Birmingham H [W 1-0 | Rooney]
19 Aug Barclays Premier League Burnley A [L 1-0]
22 Aug Barclays Premier League Wigan A [W 5-0 | Rooney, Berbatov, Rooney, Owen, Nani]
29 Aug Barclays Premier League Arsenal H [W 2-1 | Rooney, Diaby OG]

September 2009
12 Sep Barclays Premier League Tottenham A [W 3-1 | Giggs, Anderson, Rooney]
15 Sep UEFA Champions League Besiktas A [W 1-0 | Scholes]
20 Sep Barclays Premier League Man City H [W 4-3 | Rooney, Fletcher, Fletcher, Owen]
23 Sep League Cup Wolves H [W 1-0 | Welbeck]
26 Sep Barclays Premier League Stoke City A [W 2-0 | Berbatov, O'Shea]
30 Sep UEFA Champions League Wolfsburg H [W 2-1 | Giggs, Carrick]

October 2009
03 Oct Barclays Premier League Sunderland H [D 2-2, Berbatov, A.Ferdinand OG]
17 Oct Barclays Premier League Bolton H [W 2-1 | Knight OG, Valencia]
21 Oct UEFA Champions League CSKA Moscow A 19:45
25 Oct Barclays Premier League Liverpool A 14:00
31 Oct Barclays Premier League Blackburn H 17:30

November 2009
03 Nov UEFA Champions League CSKA Moscow H 19:45
08 Nov Barclays Premier League Chelsea A 16:00
21 Nov Barclays Premier League Everton H 17:30
25 Nov UEFA Champions League Besiktas H 19:45
28 Nov Barclays Premier League Portsmouth A 15:00

December 2009
05 Dec Barclays Premier League West Ham A 15:00
08 Dec UEFA Champions League Wolfsburg A 19:45
12 Dec Barclays Premier League Aston Villa H 17:30
15 Dec Barclays Premier League Wolves H 20:00
19 Dec Barclays Premier League Fulham A 15:00
27 Dec Barclays Premier League Hull City A 16:00
30 Dec Barclays Premier League Wigan H 20:00

January 2010
09 Jan Barclays Premier League Birmingham A TBC
16 Jan Barclays Premier League Burnley H TBC
26 Jan Barclays Premier League Hull City H TBC
30 Jan Barclays Premier League Arsenal A TBC

February 2010
06 Feb Barclays Premier League Portsmouth H TBC
10 Feb Barclays Premier League Aston Villa A TBC
20 Feb Barclays Premier League Everton A TBC
27 Feb Barclays Premier League West Ham H TBC

March 2010
06 Mar Barclays Premier League Wolves A TBC
13 Mar Barclays Premier League Fulham H TBC
20 Mar Barclays Premier League Liverpool H TBC
27 Mar Barclays Premier League Bolton A TBC

April 2010
03 Apr Barclays Premier League Chelsea H TBC
10 Apr Barclays Premier League Blackburn A TBC
17 Apr Barclays Premier League Man City A TBC
24 Apr Barclays Premier League Tottenham H TBC

May 2010
01 May Barclays Premier League Sunderland A TBC
09 May Barclays Premier League Stoke City H TBC

17 June 2009. Please note these fixtures are provisional only. Fixtures are subject to change and may be selected for live TV broadcast; kick-off times will be confirmed in due course. Fans are strongly advised not to make travel or accommodation arrangements too far in advance.

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Manchester United 2009-2010 Squad List [Squad number - Player Name]

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Goalkeeper
1. Edwin Van der Sar
12. Ben Foster
29. Tomasz Kuszczak
38. Ron Robert-Zieler
40. Ben Amos

Defender
2. Gary Neville (capt)
3. Patrice Evra
5. Rio Ferdinand
6. Wes Brown
15. Nemanja Vidic
20. Fabio da Silva
21. Rafael da Silva
22. John O'Shea
23. Jonathan Evans
30. Ritchie De Laet
31. Corry Evans
36. David Gray
37. Craig Cathcart

~ Danny Simpson * On Loan Newcastle United *

Midfielder
4. Owen Hargreaves
8. Anderson
11. Ryan Giggs
13. Park Ji-Sung
14. Zoran Tosic
16. Michael Carrick
17. Nani
18. Paul Scholes
24. Darren Fletcher
25. Antonio Valencia
26. Gabriel Obertan
28. Darren Gibson
35. Tom Cleverley

~ Rodrigo Possebon * On Loan To Sporting Braga *

Striker
7. Michael Owen
9. Dimitar Berbatov
10. Wayne Rooney
19. Danny Welbeck
27. Federico Macheda

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Siggy 141-150 ** 22/09/09 - New Siggy Added (#144-145) **

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QUOTE(air_mood @ Mar 14 2008, 02:53 PM)
Some excellent youtube videos. I did not find this and credit goes to wahls off RR. Give it a watch if you have the time.

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wow new thread.... laugh.gif
tonite vs stoke city...
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post Sep 26 2009, 09:52 AM

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ei?? so fast new thread?? hope for a comfortable win tonite.
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ya, hope foster can compensate his mistakes against City and give us a clean sheet with some unsavable saves ..
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ah...new thread. Yupz, hope a big win against stoke smile.gif
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wah.. oledi new thread.. haihz..

new thread.. new victim.. here we come STOKE..
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la, new thread edi...

i want to see berba in the scoreline tonite... he missed few chances in the last game
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Looking forward for tonight's match. Stoke throw in strategy is really gaythreatening so Vidic need to be on his toes today. Will Rio start alongside him or Evans get the starting 11?


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QUOTE(nizamhameed @ Sep 26 2009, 10:51 AM)
la, new thread edi...

i want to see berba in the scoreline tonite... he missed few chances in the last game
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i second.. he deserve the goal.. SAF will have a strong line up today.. expect to see fletcher + ando
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QUOTE(Apis_LuaLua @ Sep 26 2009, 11:17 AM)
i second.. he deserve the goal.. SAF will have a strong line up today.. expect to see fletcher + ando
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berba is doing very good this season..hopefully there's few goal coming from berbatov..he totally deserve it..
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Berbatov needs to learn finishing from Owen
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line up prediction for tonite:-

Foster
JOS-Rio-Vidic-Evra
Valencia-carrick-ando-giggs/nani
berba-rooney
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Foster
JOS-Rio-Vidic-Evra
Valencia-fletcher-ando-park
berba-rooney

my line-up prediction
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JOS is a must in this game, rest fletcher for UCL
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QUOTE(nizamhameed @ Sep 26 2009, 03:28 PM)
JOS is a must in this game, rest fletcher for UCL
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JOS Ferdinand Vidic Evra

Valencia Carrick Ando Giggs

Berba Rooney
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Saw this video...quality video thou....26 years of waiting came to the end at the 92/93 season


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QUOTE(leongtat @ Sep 26 2009, 03:41 PM)
Saw this video...quality video thou....26 years of waiting came to the end at the 92/93 season


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Giggs was there for the first, and still here for the 11th,and possibly 12th,13th....wow
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guys...check this video link...LOL

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4N234vGB0Y

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QUOTE(n3o7 @ Sep 26 2009, 02:24 PM)
Berbatov needs to learn finishing from Owen
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If u watch the derby game.. u can see how close berba to score 2 goals with his header.. especially the second one, i even jump to celebrate... haihz

thanks to Given spectacular saves..
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Owen had 1 goal and 1 assist on his previous 2 matches. hope more will come from him afterwards.
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QUOTE(leongtat @ Sep 26 2009, 03:41 PM)
Saw this video...quality video thou....26 years of waiting came to the end at the 92/93 season
Great video. SAF and Giggs look very young in it lol. The feeling is especially strong the moment the fans pat Bruce on his head and shoulders before he went on to lift the trophy.

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QUOTE(Apis_LuaLua @ Sep 26 2009, 06:29 PM)
If u watch the derby game.. u can see how close berba to score 2 goals with his header.. especially the second one, i even jump to celebrate... haihz

thanks to Given spectacular saves..
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Actually the header was too damn near the keeper, if I recall correctly. Badly needs a goal, in my view.
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he's doing everything right, just not at scoring. he needs some luck too.
needs to move a lot more too.

lineup prediction from me :

Foster
JOS, Rio, Vida, Evra
Park, Ando, Carrick, Giggs
Rooney, Berbatov

if Ando and Carrick boss the midfield, we'll be good.
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QUOTE(a.ihsan @ Sep 26 2009, 08:32 PM)
he's doing everything right, just not at scoring. he needs some luck too.
needs to move a lot more too.

lineup prediction from me :

Foster
JOS, Rio, Vida, Evra
Park, Ando, Carrick, Giggs
Rooney, Berbatov

if Ando and Carrick boss the midfield, we'll be good.
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QUOTE(allenultra @ Sep 26 2009, 03:22 PM)
Foster
JOS-Rio-Vidic-Evra
Valencia-fletcher-ando-park
berba-rooney

my line-up prediction
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Foster
Gary, Vida, Evans, Evra
Park, Fletch, Scholesy, Nani
Owen, Wazza

Sub: Kuscszak, Rio, Sheasy, Carrick, Ando, Giggsy, Berba

Captain Gary Neville need more games. Should give him a chance to play against Stoke City.
Rio should rest on bench 1 or 2 games...he need a rest after he did serious mistakes in Man City match.
Owen should given chances to perform also.

Ando, Giggsy need enough of rest to against Wolfsburg in Champions League.
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QUOTE(KhangFai @ Sep 26 2009, 08:46 PM)
The following is my line-up (Not prediction, I mean the pickup if I'm manager)

Foster
Gary, Vida, Evans, Evra
Park, Fletch, Scholesy, Nani
Owen, Wazza

Sub: Kuscszak, Rio, Sheasy, Carrick, Ando, Giggsy, Berba

Captain Gary Neville need more games. Should give him a chance to play against Stoke City.
Rio should rest on bench 1 or 2 games...he need a rest after he did serious mistakes in Man City match.
Owen should given chances to perform also.

Ando, Giggsy need enough of rest to against Wolfsburg in Champions League.
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mana rooney? i tot SAF wants rooney to play more.

EDIT: sorry, i didnt see the selection not prediction thingy

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Fourth round of the Carling Cup

Blackburn v Peterborough

Manchester City v Scunthorpe

Tottenham v Everton

Barnsley v Manchester United

Chelsea v Bolton

Sunderland v Aston Villa

Arsenal v Liverpool

Portsmouth v Stoke

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QUOTE(IcyDarling @ Sep 26 2009, 07:53 PM)
mana rooney? i tot SAF wants rooney to play more.

EDIT: sorry, i didnt see the selection not prediction thingy
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Wazza = Wayne Rooney...he is playing in MY SQUAD...haha biggrin.gif
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Icy, I think Wazza tu Rooney la.

Why no Valencia in anyone's lineup? Although he has disappointed so far (looks half the player he was at Wigan), that may be due to a lack of a proper run of games.

Ataupun dia intimidated by colleagues, tak...
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QUOTE(unknown @ Sep 26 2009, 09:02 PM)
Fourth round of the Carling Cup

Blackburn v Peterborough

Manchester City v Scunthorpe

Tottenham v Everton

Barnsley v Manchester United

Chelsea v Bolton

Sunderland v Aston Villa

Arsenal v Liverpool

Portsmouth v Stoke
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this looks like a great match to watch

btw, what the hell Wazza gt to do with rooney now?


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Anyone know any streaming site? sweat.gif

I prefer not to download any software though.
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Sopcast and stuff is always very slow for my comp,dunno why sad.gif
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Anyone know any streaming site? sweat.gif

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try justin tv
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i tot someone will post the link half an hour or an hour before match....

dun worry... sure got one... ^^


Added on September 26, 2009, 8:24 pmsry off topic. but im thinking if we could catch up with City thread.
Ever since admin posted his warning there, there hasnt be much post there.

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QUOTE(Apis_LuaLua @ Sep 26 2009, 06:29 PM)
If u watch the derby game.. u can see how close berba to score 2 goals with his header.. especially the second one, i even jump to celebrate... haihz

thanks to Given spectacular saves..
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I am beginning to see Berba taking more chances to score goals.

As you see... Ronaldo is not here the game play is totally different. Berba is given higher opportunity to act as a striker and score goals... I am sure he can make it..

Owen will be a threat in the box... replacing Ruud..

We did not have a real threat inside the box after Ruud left.. now Owen is..

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QUOTE(davidlow7 @ Sep 26 2009, 09:50 PM)
I am beginning to see Berba taking more chances to score goals.

As you see... Ronaldo is not here the game play is totally different. Berba is given higher opportunity to act as a striker and score goals... I am sure he can make it..

Owen will be a threat in the box... replacing Ruud..

We did not have a real threat inside the box after Ruud left.. now Owen is..
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IMO, Michael Owen is a little small in size, when Nani/ Valencia/Giggs/Park/Neville cross in, he cant seem to reach with a header. The only thing i can see from owen is the smartness in him in finding a nice position.

Maybe from experience kua
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QUOTE(IcyDarling @ Sep 26 2009, 09:02 PM)
IMO, Michael Owen is a little small in size, when Nani/ Valencia/Giggs/Park/Neville cross in, he cant seem to reach with a header. The only thing i can see from owen is the smartness in him in finding a nice position.

Maybe from experience kua
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Is there any official lineup yet?

I'm hoping for a Valencia Fletcher Anderson Nani midfield. We are away against Stoke and we merely won it there last season. Park and Giggs should be reserved for the UCL match. Rooney to start alongside Berba.
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Stoke: Sorensen, Huth, Abdoulaye Faye, Shawcross, Collins, Lawrence, Whelan, Delap, Whitehead, Etherington, Kitson. Subs: Simonsen, Higginbotham, Cort, Beattie, Pugh, Sanli, Wilkinson.

Man Utd: Foster, O'Shea, Ferdinand, Vidic, Evra, Valencia, Scholes, Fletcher, Nani, Berbatov, Rooney. Subs: Kuszczak, Neville, Owen, Anderson, Giggs, Carrick, Jonathan Evans.


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http://tv.indonewyork.com and http://f7ac3a47.ugalleries.net
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Don't know the mamak stall at my place will show which match later, I want them to show Utd but I think most probably will show Chelsea
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QUOTE(unknown @ Sep 26 2009, 10:20 PM)
Stoke: Sorensen, Huth, Abdoulaye Faye, Shawcross, Collins, Lawrence, Whelan, Delap, Whitehead, Etherington, Kitson. Subs: Simonsen, Higginbotham, Cort, Beattie, Pugh, Sanli, Wilkinson.

Man Utd: Foster, O'Shea, Ferdinand, Vidic, Evra, Valencia, Scholes, Fletcher, Nani, Berbatov, Rooney. Subs: Kuszczak, Neville, Owen, Anderson, Giggs, Carrick, Jonathan Evans.
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is this official?
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QUOTE(IcyDarling @ Sep 26 2009, 09:26 PM)
is this official?
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Yes. Official Line up
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haiz...Why owen not first team again?tot he can play tonight...
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QUOTE(unknown @ Sep 26 2009, 10:29 PM)
Yes. Official Line up
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where u get all this?


Added on September 26, 2009, 9:37 pmfound it in premierleague.com

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Strong lineup that, minus Anderson and Giggs who are both on form, but in Fletcher-Scholes in the center is good with them also on very good form. Valencia has looked threatening whenever he gets a chance and Nani hopefully will play better than against Wolves.


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QUOTE(IcyDarling @ Sep 26 2009, 09:36 PM)
where u get all this?


Added on September 26, 2009, 9:37 pmfound it in premierleague.com
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http://www.redcafe.net/f11/
Go there and click on the match we play that day. Refresh the last page of that matchday thread around 40-20mins before the game. They usually would tell then.

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QUOTE(zeneyam @ Sep 26 2009, 09:33 PM)
haiz...Why owen not first team again?tot he can play tonight...
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why carrick always on bench lorrr..
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mm..SAF should atleast give him start the game leerr

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why carrick always on bench lorrr..
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he's not on form i guess...

btw, is carrick having personal problems? He seems unhappy to me, and the way he move around the field suggest that he is not in the mood
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mm..SAF should atleast give him start the game leerr
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QUOTE(davidlow7 @ Sep 26 2009, 08:50 PM)
I am beginning to see Berba taking more chances to score goals.

As you see... Ronaldo is not here the game play is totally different. Berba is given higher opportunity to act as a striker and score goals... I am sure he can make it..

Owen will be a threat in the box... replacing Ruud..

We did not have a real threat inside the box after Ruud left.. now Owen is..
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It's all about Rooney these days to be that man(although not like for like just waiting inside the box for a chance) ever since Tevez and Berba came into the picture. He showed flashes of his brilliance there being really good at getting behind defenders and into great goal scoring positions all the time, just that his form can't keep up and he's only able to show it in patches. He's been great for England over the last year or so, and seems to start the season really well. Let's hope he can keep that up this time and finally show his prowess in front of goal consistently. His finishing is superb IMO when he's on that kind of run. Just need to hold onto it longer and more frequent compare to previous seasons.

Valencia has done pretty well IMO being a new guy at the club. Always threatening even though he's not that effective right now. He gives us genuine width and will always try to cross the ball in. He's not shining as much as at Wigan because he's not the main man anymore like when he was there. And he's new with us, will take a while for him to gel with the rest. But he just need to be that traditional winger, and everything will take care of itself. Just need to improve his overall game a bit.


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mm..SAF should atleast give him start the game leerr
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With Fletcher and Scholes in great form, + Ando and Giggs in form as well, it's hard for him to get games. Up to him to win a place back when he gets his next chance.

QUOTE(IcyDarling @ Sep 26 2009, 09:56 PM)
he's not on form i guess...

btw, is carrick having personal problems? He seems unhappy to me, and the way he move around the field suggest that he is not in the mood
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Don't think so. Just a normal player struggling for form. Look at Ronaldo early last season. He was struggling with his form and was easily frustrated on the pitch in most games. Same thing Carrick is going through I guess. All players go through these spells where they just can't seem to do things right. Nani, Ando(until late last season), Scholes last season weren't in form.

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scholes has never mastered tackles has he?


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sudah biasa dengan 'tendangan maut' scholes. lucky tak dapat card.

btw, is it me or is it nani is very desperate to get a goal?
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ref should be given a yellow card for blocking the way. lol!
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haha...eh,,if referree accidentaly make it a goal,then how? still considered?
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Scholes is the only player that was impressive.

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Scholes is the only player i impressed.
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Dont worry... im coming on for the 2nd half ... what minute do you want me to score? any particular gaya?
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Valencia is not running into D box,,and Nani is not able to cross properly,,
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i like it when berba showing and running toward giggs after scored... damn emo...


Added on September 26, 2009, 11:39 pmabt oshea, no comment as i said HE is a MUST for this game

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Giggs, 2 games 5 assist, but 0 goal...
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his assists are just as important as the goals. plus, just let the forwards get the goals.
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QUOTE(ic3rock @ Sep 26 2009, 11:40 PM)
Giggs, 2 games 5 assist, but 0 goal...
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QUOTE(ic3rock @ Sep 26 2009, 11:40 PM)
Giggs, 2 games 5 assist, but 0 goal...
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QUOTE(maxizanc @ Sep 26 2009, 11:45 PM)
How come there's assist when there's no goal??
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He assisted other to get goals...
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what ic3rock meant was that giggs assisted 5 goals so far but he has yet score himself. am i right ic3rock? hurmm hmm.gif
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Sorry.. misunderstood, i thought you were talking about this game?

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Yup, Giggs assist 5 in last 2 games, but he 0 goal. He very wish to score, last season....
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QUOTE(Pain_X @ Sep 26 2009, 11:48 PM)
Keane 4 goals. Crazy.
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damn pool... 6 goals....
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QUOTE(skylinegtr34rule4life @ Sep 26 2009, 11:53 PM)
hahaha this weekend is the big boys bully small boys festival laugh.gif rclxms.gif
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not for ski.. haha
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QUOTE(skylinegtr34rule4life @ Sep 26 2009, 11:53 PM)
hahaha this weekend is the big boys bully small boys festival laugh.gif rclxms.gif
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Wigan 3 Chelsea 1 ... biggrin.gif Not for all of them lah smile.gif
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What can I say about this game? Long live Giggsy. Nani clearly need an Intel Quad Core chip implan. doh.gif
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yahoo!!.. giggs!... our savior!!... n congratulation to berba n o'shea!!... n we r top now!!...
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QUOTE(kampit_ikram @ Sep 26 2009, 11:54 PM)
not for ski.. haha
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yeah unfortunately but good la UTD fecking top rclxm9.gif thumbup.gif

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so we r same point with ski eh... but behind in term GD...
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QUOTE(MyDevil @ Sep 26 2009, 11:55 PM)
What can I say about this game? Long live Giggsy. Nani clearly need an Intel Quad Core chip implan.  doh.gif
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we cant depend on him just yet.... sigh...
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QUOTE(nizamhameed @ Sep 26 2009, 11:56 PM)
so we r same point with ski eh... but behind in term GD...
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haha eh i tot same pts b4 the match hmm.gif
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Looks like we won't be the one ending Ski's unbeaten run tongue.gif
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Nani isnt performing well today though. Still need Giggs. Better hope he gets to his top form before Giggs retire....

btw, we should srsly celebrate, the one that we beat 5-0 have just won Chelsea 3-1,

Wigan is like, our best fren now because they brought us to lever with chelsea
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QUOTE(skylinegtr34rule4life @ Sep 26 2009, 11:57 PM)
haha eh i tot same pts b4 the match hmm.gif
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they were on unbeaten run
we've lost to BURNley

so they've 3 points more than us
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giggs is such a wonderful player ...
at age of 35 ... he still shine ^^
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our gd better than ski rite....anyway...salute to the living legend...SIR RYAN GIGGS!! lol
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QUOTE(IcyDarling @ Sep 26 2009, 11:57 PM)
Nani isnt performing well today though. Still need Giggs. Better hope he gets to his top form before Giggs retire....

btw, we should srsly celebrate, the one that we beat 5-0 have just won Chelsea 3-1,

Wigan is like, our best fren now because they brought us to lever with chelsea
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haha yeah...unbelievable and now we no need worry about bogey wigan at their own turf anymore

QUOTE(driftmeister @ Sep 26 2009, 11:58 PM)
they were on unbeaten run
we've lost to BURNley

so they've 3 points more than us
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haha oh my bad...kinda lost count on the table liao...probably i still on hype after manchester derby win
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Burnley 1-0 ManUtd
Spurs 1-3 ManUtd
Sprus 5-0 Burnley


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which team is on the top now?.. @@. confuse neh...
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which team is on the top now?.. @@. confuse neh...
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our GD is +11
Ski is +10

we're topping the league!!
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QUOTE(driftmeister @ Sep 27 2009, 12:03 AM)
our GD is +11
Ski is +10

we're topping the league!!
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sure ? biggrin.gif
ahh good good.
but man city 1 game behind .
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Yea Berbatov needs some love here tongue.gif
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haha... salute to GIGGS neh... so much different after he subs in... n luckily our scholes din get red card.. =.='... manyak takut dia la!!
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QUOTE(driftmeister @ Sep 27 2009, 12:03 AM)
our GD is +11
Ski is +10

we're topping the league!!
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and we r here to stay
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QUOTE(jackiewong @ Sep 27 2009, 01:05 AM)
haha... salute to GIGGS neh... so much different after he subs in... n luckily our scholes din get red card.. =.='... manyak takut dia la!!
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was it a hand? cant see clearly le....

btw, how many red cards chelsea received ar? It seems like they're talking bout playing with 9 players on field
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QUOTE(IcyDarling @ Sep 27 2009, 12:06 AM)
was it a hand? cant see clearly le....

btw, how many red cards chelsea received ar? It seems like they're talking bout playing with 9 players on field
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Petr Cech only
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QUOTE(IcyDarling @ Sep 27 2009, 12:06 AM)
was it a hand? cant see clearly le....

btw, how many red cards chelsea received ar? It seems like they're talking bout playing with 9 players on field
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Only 1, Cech. 9 players mean not included goalkeeper..
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just 1. cech got red carded. glory-glory Man Utd! oh how i miss watching games with my high school friends. darn.
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We deserve 3point today thumbup.gif

Giggs really on top form this months, 2 assist and should score one today.

Scholes MOTM. He pass really top class today.
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today match result is good....but it show our weakness as well..our first choice wing didnt really produce anything..well,they can run, but their crossing really erm...not that good man...luckily giggs is back to save us....nani and valencia shud learn from giggs..and valencia shud wear his boots and learn how to shot on goal...
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stay strong!!... other teams keep chasing us d!!..
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Portsmouth is having a beaten-run
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zzzz...what happen to portsmouth =.= .....btw louis saha on form liao , scoring so many goals =x
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lol ..i guess , this player of the month belong to giggs else screw them all smile.gif
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nani, valencia they all still raw and young.
give them some time lah. especially foster.
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i saw the Ronaldo shadow behind nani.. not scoring but selfish... =.='.. hopefully he knows this is a team game.. let's give valencia chance.. just the 7th bpl match he played for the team only..
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Great result against a resilient Stoke side. Ryan Giggs completely changed the game for us. Arise Sir Ryan Giggs. Did more for us in his first 10 minutes than Nani did for the 50+ minutes he was on. Shame he couldnt score his opportunity. Good to hear Ski dropped points and us going back on top.
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MOTM, Ryan Giggs. Not a shadow of doubt about that. He came into the field and make Nani previous 55mins looks like school kids playing football on the field. Nani again, disappointed with his performance today, nowhere near Utd standard. Sorry Nani fans but I personally think that Tosic can do better than him. Less trick but more crosses and wing plan instead of dribbling mistake. I gave my support to Nani all the time but he need to improve his play. Imagine if Giggs is not available for this match, Rooney was cold, Valencia is absolute sweat.gif , Scholes keep provoking referee to give him red card and Fletcher running the around the field winning the ball without providing threat to the opposition, we need to improve the wing play, IMO.

Spurs is on fire after 2 continuous defeat, belasah Burnley 5-0 laugh.gif Thanks to Wigan for helping us to beat Chelski and getting Cech sent off laugh.gif Winner of this week, Man Utd.
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QUOTE(joonwei23 @ Sep 27 2009, 12:04 AM)
sure ? biggrin.gif
ahh good good.
but man city 1 game behind .
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dont care about 1 game behind...4 now celebrate our top of the table feat hehe
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QUOTE(ahbenggay @ Sep 27 2009, 12:14 AM)
lol ..i guess , this player of the month belong to giggs else screw them all smile.gif
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just now i saw the setanta channel shown there 'man of the match - paul scholes!!'... this two old fellas still shine neh~~ but too bad.. they r goin to retire d.. but still no other strong replacement yet...
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Ryan Giggs for this year's PFA Player of the Year as well pls!
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2 goals, 3 points, top of the league. Giggs really changed the game when he came on, the assists he provided are vital but should have put his name on the score sheet. Can't wait for next week's chelsea vs pool game, with the former had their goalkeeper sent off and the latter hitting top form. Still, the best result for us is a draw. I'm satisfied with 1-1.

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QUOTE(skylinegtr34rule4life @ Sep 27 2009, 12:17 AM)
dont care about 1 game behind...4 now celebrate our top of the table feat hehe
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it doesnt matter what happen to other team ...as long as we win all of the match LOL sweat.gif drool.gif That matters the most =x
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i feel man utd not solid.
i dunno which part.
the defending or the attacking.
ohh well.
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QUOTE(joonwei23 @ Sep 27 2009, 12:23 AM)
i feel man utd not solid.
i dunno which part.
the defending or the attacking.
ohh well.
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Def and mid, still not so well...


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Def and mid, still not so well...
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yrs ? haha
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but atleast now rio n vidic know when should back pass or not.. cuz they oso afraid foster cannot handle...
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QUOTE(joonwei23 @ Sep 27 2009, 12:26 AM)
nice persona.
yrs ? haha
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Yrs? My age? laugh.gif
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QUOTE(jackiewong @ Sep 27 2009, 12:27 AM)
but atleast now rio n vidic know when should back pass or not.. cuz they oso afraid foster cannot handle...
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LOL, Foster did pretty well today. No panic moment from him
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Yrs? My age?  laugh.gif
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nono. i mean your siggy.
xD yours ?
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QUOTE(jackiewong @ Sep 27 2009, 12:27 AM)
but atleast now rio n vidic know when should back pass or not.. cuz they oso afraid foster cannot handle...
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But Vidic just now still make a danger back heading to Foster, doh.gif
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QUOTE(shgx700 @ Sep 26 2009, 11:59 PM)
our gd better than ski rite....anyway...salute to the living legend...SIR RYAN GIGGS!! lol
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is he really SIR???

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hey did u guys saw foster used his right leg to kick the back pass?..@@... haha.. very rare to c 1 le.. XD
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i think joonwei23 meant "yours".
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QUOTE(joonwei23 @ Sep 27 2009, 12:28 AM)
nono. i mean your siggy.
xD yours ?
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dammnn..i expected us to end chelseas unbeaten run!!!
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alright cya guys.
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is he really SIR???
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Not really. The fans probably declare it themselves, laugh.gif
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QUOTE(lowyat.user47 @ Sep 27 2009, 12:30 AM)
i think joonwei23 meant "yours".
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QUOTE(sHsIkuA @ Sep 27 2009, 12:33 AM)
Not really. The fans probably declare it themselves, laugh.gif
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Yea i get it, it not Persona but Gen2...  brows.gif
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he do body kit until like tht.
cannot differentiate liao.
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he do body kit until like tht.
cannot differentiate liao.
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oh i just read. chelsea did have only 9 players left in the end. including the keeper. because Ashley Cole went off injured and they had used all the substitutes already.
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QUOTE(lowyat.user47 @ Sep 27 2009, 12:44 AM)
oh i just read. chelsea did have only 9 players left in the end. including the keeper. because Ashley Cole went off injured and they had used all the substitutes already.
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anyways, its good that we are on top again. am i the only one who would like to see owen in the starting line up? against a respectable team that is. am i?
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QUOTE(ahbenggay @ Sep 27 2009, 12:13 AM)
zzzz...what happen to portsmouth =.= .....btw louis saha on form liao , scoring so many goals =x
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Nani needs to become a team player more...

Once he learns that he will be good...
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QUOTE(davidlow7 @ Sep 27 2009, 01:31 AM)
Nani needs to become a team player more...

Once he learns that he will be good...
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precisely, of course i am not suppose to compare him to giggs but nani definitely need to see how giggs does it. but then again, that dipping shot he did at one point was niceeeeee. for some reason, keepers of the opp team tend to be super goalies when they are against us sweat.gif lol
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QUOTE(lowyat.user47 @ Sep 27 2009, 12:57 AM)
anyways, its good that we are on top again. am i the only one who would like to see owen in the starting line up? against a respectable team that is. am i?
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It's not that I don't want him to play, but Rooney is a must, and Berba too is important in the way we play. With him we stand a better chance of holding onto the ball better IMO.

QUOTE(davidlow7 @ Sep 27 2009, 01:31 AM)
Nani needs to become a team player more...

Once he learns that he will be good...
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He need a run of games. He was starting the season well I thought although he wasn't spectacular always, but it was an improvement from last season and on his way to recapture the form of his first season. But SAF rotate the squad him along with the other wingers giving them bench time etc, and he's suffered. Now he's back to his frustrating self. He just need to simplify his game like Ronaldo did after that WC incident with Rooney. I won't lose faith in him yet though even if he doesn't turn it on consistently this season, although that would mean we would suffer a bit.

Foster seems fine today. Wasn't tested much, but dealt with everything thrown at him, although he had one nervy kick.. but it got out of harms way. Showing his mental strength again bouncing from a bad game. He did fine after his shaky start against Chelsea until that City game, and seems to be fine against Stoke. Hope he can keep this up. Really looking the part IMO.
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And yet again, it is proven beyond doubt that NANI is not a good player for MU standard...!!
he doesn't pass the ball because he don't have the Football Sense and intelligence !!

when he got the ball, all that he is thinking of " i want to be hero and dribble pass 10 players and score a spectacular goal !"

And pls stop your bullsh1t about Nani not having enough game and stuff....
he has been given enough chances ....
SAF should just sell off NANI, give others player a chance and move on...!!!
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And I have to say, if Scholes was shown a 2nd yellow there for his handball, it would have been harsh IMO. We can see lots of incidents where the ref didn't give anything other than a freekick/penalty unless it was an obvious one, or stopping a goal chance. What do you guys think about that? I was worried though, I thought he would have gone straight away seeing our luck over the years with referee regarding giving our players the 2nd yellow.

Ronaldo did it a few times if I'm not mistaken, and Rooney last season against Fulham.. the ref is quick to show them that..


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And yet again, it is proven beyond doubt that NANI is not a good player for MU standard...!!
he doesn't pass the ball because he don't have the Football Sense and intelligence !!

when he got the ball, all that he is thinking of  " i want to be hero and dribble pass 10 players and score a spectacular goal !"

And pls stop your bullsh1t about Nani not having enough game and stuff....
he has been given enough chances ....
SAF should just sell off NANI, give others player a chance and move on...!!!
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He didn't have a good game admittedly, but not many did in that game. Valencia and Rooney were ineffective I thought. Berba wasn't doing much either. It was just that type of game where the opposition had men behind the ball most of the time.

Who's to say he won't have a good game next time he plays and keep that up? It's not like he didn't show any potential.. in his first season he was very good I thought. One of our highest assister.. since then things haven't quite work out, but we look at things 2-3 years ahead, not just on the now of things. Ronaldo took 4 seasons to become the player we know today. Nani is just starting his third season for us. Give it time eh? I'm sure you had doubts about Fletcher too back then. Good to see our fans don't learn a thing about being patient our players, young ones especially. Keep up the good work because I would love to see you guys being proven wrong, yet again.


Added on September 27, 2009, 3:10 amHe's only 22.. players took different times to mature the player they suppose to be. Not everyone is special like a Rooney, Ronaldo or Messi who can make a consistent impact straight away only a few years after their break through. Most players take a while. And even Ronaldo took 4 seasons to become consistent in his game for us. It's when around 25 they get that consistency in their game that would stamp their mark on the team in almost every game. Fletcher showed just that. Shit initially.. for a few seasons in fact, and only showing up once in a while to show that he has something in him. That's what young players tend to do, until they mature and become more confident in their ability and game which would bring along consistency in their game. You can critise of course, that's what fans are supposed to do if they see a bad play/game, whatever it is. But look at the bigger picture, and not just what you see today. Be a bit patient, because if we look back, not everybody become a world beater at 22.

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And I have to say, if Scholes was shown a 2nd yellow there for his handball, it would have been harsh IMO. We can see lots of incidents where the ref didn't give anything other than a freekick/penalty unless it was an obvious one, or stopping a goal chance. What do you guys think about that? I was worried though, I thought he would have gone straight away seeing our luck over the years with referee regarding giving our players the 2nd yellow.

Ronaldo did it a few times if I'm not mistaken, and Rooney last season against Fulham.. the ref is quick to show them that..


Added on September 27, 2009, 3:03 amHe didn't have a good game admittedly, but not many did in that game. Valencia and Rooney were ineffective I thought. Berba wasn't doing much either. It was just that type of game where the opposition had men behind the ball most of the time.

Who's to say he won't have a good game next time he plays and keep that up? It's not like he didn't show any potential.. in his first season he was very good I thought. One of our highest assister.. since then things haven't quite work out, but we look at things 2-3 years ahead, not just on the now of things. Ronaldo took 4 seasons to become the player we know today. Nani is just starting his third season for us. Give it time eh?  I'm sure you had doubts about Fletcher too back then. Good to see our fans don't learn a thing about being patient our players, young ones especially. Keep up the good work because I would love to see you guys being proven wrong, yet again.
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berba wasn't doing much?
did u even watch the match?
did u c his touches and passes that open up play????

what do u expect? hat trick everytime from him???

at least he didn't make any wayward passes and lost crucial possession like that NANi did...
Nani can't even make a decent cross!

and NO! Ronaldo doesn't took 4 season to shine... in fact from the very first game, we can c his potential......and he is bound to be a great player

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Saying that, Nani should really do better. He was starting really good I thought this season. But the international break, and the rotation doesn't help his cause IMO. He need a run of games..
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and NO! Ronaldo doesn't took 4 season to shine... in fact from the very first game, we can c his potential......and he is bound to be a great player
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I would agree on Ronaldo's part

Fergie did not expect to play him straight away when he came here.

Even commentator said that.. but somehow he shine... suddenly... ..

The boy was great
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berba wasn't doing much?
did u even watch the match?
did u c his touches and passes that open up play????

what do u expect? hat trick everytime from him???

at least he didn't make any wayward passes and lost crucial possession like that NANi did...
Nani can't even make a decent cross!

and NO! Ronaldo doesn't took 4 season to shine... in fact from the very first game, we can c his potential......and he is bound to be a great player
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Look who's talking. whistling.gif You were the one expecting a young player to play like a freaking world class player. Did I say anything bad about it? All I said is that he didn't do that much in that game. A player can have an average game too even if he scored. He does a lot better in normal games that he plays in which he didn't score. Tonight he didn't show much. But I'm not blaming him for that. It was just that type of game where not a lot shine.

Wake up sunny boy. Not everyone is a Ronaldo who's special from day one. But still he wasn't that great initially. He was good, only in patches and there was a lot of games where he didn't contribute other than running down blind alleys all the time. Where did you think that one trick pony stuff about him came from? Besides if we judge every young winger to a Ronaldo, we won't find anyone able to become a regular for us there other than buying establish stars which we won't even get as good as Ronaldo.


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I would agree on Ronaldo's part

Fergie did not expect to play him straight away when he came here.

Even commentator said that.. but somehow he shine... suddenly... ..

The boy was great
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It was only after that WC incident where he got consistent. Before that he was inconsistent as hell. One game he was great, the next he couldn't do anything other than going past one defender, and that's all he does all game long.

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This is where I'm coming from. You guys are expecting another Ronaldo who straight away showed he was great which is ridiculous. We are really spoiled by Ronaldo and Rooney was both were child prodigies. Nani showed he was gonna be a very good winger for us providing goals for our players in his first season. Why can't everyone see that, and have a bit of hope he'll be consistent for us in the future? Fletcher showed players do improve..


Added on September 27, 2009, 3:30 amRonaldo did took 4 seasons though to get to where he is today. I never once said he was a shit little player before that oh the great one. Still think Fletcher is shit eh?


Added on September 27, 2009, 3:47 amI understand you being frustrated by him. He did have a shit game. But to claim he's not a good player for our standard is a bit too much. Like I said, being a fan of our team, and seeing so many players over the years turning it around, should tell anyone with a bit of brain to take a step back when judging young players. If you want to give criticism about him, go on ahead.. that's acceptable. That's what we do. We judge things after they play on the pitch. If we see them playing shit, we say they had a shit game. Simple as.

But don't come here blabing about you having a freaking magic ball that you can predict the future and say he's not good enough for us saying as though he won't improve an inch. God. He's fecking 23 years old playing for the best team in the world. Having join us only 3 seasons back, where he was what 21 and becoming the top assister in our team then. If he wasn't good enough, he wouldn't manage that amount of tally. All I say is hold that mouth of yours, or your hand rather in this case. Give it a bit more time. I'm sure he can turn this around.. although whether he does that is another matter.

He really is frustrating. He need to play. He won't ever improve that consistency of his if we keep rotating him around between playing and spending time on the bench. He just need to use that brain of his better, like in his first season where he was better although still inconsistent. He really need to just do it, rather than play around all the time.. that stop start dribbling of his. Just do like Valencia does.. at least he's managed to consistently cross the ball into the box unlike Nani who struggles a bit when his trick doesn't work. Simplify things Nani! For god's sake. It can't be that hard to just run and cross now and then.

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lagi lagi Giggs, balik balik Giggs jugak, come on la young lads, aku dah penat la nak tunggu korang menyinar, jarang2 je baru berlaku zzzzz

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hello dumbo

now u are blaming me because i am comparing him with ronaldo????

who is the 1 that wanted to start comparing him with ronaldo?
who is the 1 that say ronaldo need 4 season to shine????

did i  even mentioned 'ronaldo' name in my first post??
Please i am not that farking dumb to compare Nani to ronaldo cause Nani wasn't even in the same class as ronaldo

AND NO!
I am not expecting him to perform like a world class player..!
i am just hoping that he can MAKE A FREAKING PASS AND DON"T BE SO FARKING SELFISH!!!!!!!!!!

did u c how many bad passes and possession lost he did today?
even Rooney was freaking mad at him!

he was also freaking useless in last Wednesday match if u didn't notice
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hello bro...this is no place for u to call others "dumbo"..u speak ur opinion,o ther speak out others....and for nani, he need to prove himself and he is not playing that BAD....he is the only one that is doing something in the first half apart from valencia's run???? he just need to be consistent....

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Cool down everyone..

It is just about voicing opinions. Everyone is entitled to his own opinion.

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It's still too early in the season anyway to make any sort of conclusions. Judge what they do on the pitch, but wait for half a season or more before judging their contribution to the team, or their worth to the team. Carrick doesn't look like a 16m player right now.
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Sell Nani, buy Silva.

Sell Carrick, get Xavi.

Sell Berbatov, get Aguerro ...
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we got 3 points and we are still arguing?? lol cmon guys huh.gif
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It's ok to argue. Nani was shit in that game. But he's a good player, just a frustrating inconsistent one right now.
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imho.. nani and valencia should learn from Giggs. smile.gif
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give nani one or two more years. hes gonna be the nx fletcher smile.gif

valencia is such a boring winger to watch sad.gif

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He's your plain winger type. Not much skill, but plenty of pace and would look to cross all the time.
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valencia can run through defender,but his crossing arent that good...or i shud say our striker are not good enough to get the cross...watever..since we r playing with wings now, we need better crossing skills and that is wat giggs is providing us in this 2 match....
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Nani needs to change his behavior during dribble. too much attention looking at the ball during dribbling. thats why he lack of awareness to spread the balls to other teammates.
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this is what the commentators said jsut now....they said he dribble and his head is facing down..he didnt try to look at the surrounding to see is there any other better option...well maybe he is learning...
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great result and the most important positives out of this game is not how well giggs play or how shitty nani is but FOSTER. he looks steady and confident with no side effect follow-up from the match against city.

VDS is not getting any younger and it is important that our No 2 who will eventually succeed VDS pass the tough mental test which is the no 1 criteria for being the top goalkeeper for man utd. i'm sure SAF is gearing foster towards there

it's great to see o'shea name on the scoresheet .such a loyal servant to the club. my next wish is to see g.neville score. his reaction after the owen goal against city is so memorable if not comical.

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QUOTE(w3er @ Sep 27 2009, 03:52 AM)
And yet again, it is proven beyond doubt that NANI is not a good player for MU standard...!!
he doesn't pass the ball because he don't have the Football Sense and intelligence !!

when he got the ball, all that he is thinking of  " i want to be hero and dribble pass 10 players and score a spectacular goal !"

And pls stop your bullsh1t about Nani not having enough game and stuff....
he has been given enough chances ....
SAF should just sell off NANI, give others player a chance and move on...!!!
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Ronaldo was a winger ryte? He scored so many goals... Nani also want ma.. maybe Ronaldo everyday tell him in MSN, "Dun need cross la, shoot urself only, or not how u think i get so many goals?"
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Sell Nani, buy Silva.

Sell Carrick, get Xavi.

Sell Berbatov, get Aguerro ...
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Funny, all happen to be from Liga BBVA...

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menang pun nak gaduhh~~

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QUOTE(yfchin2 @ Sep 27 2009, 05:35 AM)
this is what the commentators said jsut now....they said he dribble and his head is facing down..he didnt try to look at the surrounding to see is there any other better option...well maybe he is learning...
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this is ronaldo too last time until SAF ask him to keep his head up ... the one i seen can keep his head low and still can pass is messi i think
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It probably won't be remembered as a classic, but Sir Alex Ferguson was more than happy with the way his players navigated Saturday's tricky trip to Stoke.

Goals from Dimitar Berbatov and John O'Shea clinched a 2-0 win and sent United to the top of the table, but the Reds were made to work hard for the points by a stubborn Stoke side.

"The Britannia is a difficult place to come," the boss told MUTV. "No one gets it easy here – Stoke's home record tells you that. We saw a really good performance by Manchester United.

"I think we played very well and showed plenty of composure throughout the game."

The Reds enjoyed almost 70 per cent of the possession but struggled to create clear-cut chances against Stoke's determined defence.

"We didn't quite have the penetration to round off our possession," the manager admitted. "Antonio Valencia had a great chance in the first half, but he just clipped it past the post.

"We had a lot of the ball, created maybe one or two near things, but nothing concrete in terms of a real chance. The goalkeeper made a couple of saves from Nani, but other than that it was a case of having possession of the ball but not creating enough chances.

"In the second half we were much better. It was a good day for us."

The Reds are next in action on Wednesday night in the Champions League before returning to domestic action next Saturday when Sunderland visit Old Trafford.


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Joy for John

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John O'Shea was hugely satisfied with a goal on his 350th United appearance and paid tribute to its creator, Ryan Giggs, whose cameo second half display turned the game in United's favour.

It was the Welshman's right wing free-kick which O'Shea rose to head past Thomas Sorensen in the Stoke goal, having earlier set up Dimitar Berbatov to open the scoring.

"Giggsy's experience of taking up different positions and taking advantage of any gaps proved crucial," O'Shea told MUTV. "The great run he made for the first goal was him all over. The way he used his experience to get on the blind side of the defender was brilliant.

"I was really pleased to score especially against a team who are so strong on set pieces.

"It was a great ball in from Giggsy - I said to him I'd try and get across the keeper - and thankfully I was able to knock it in."

The victory was United's seventh on the trot in all competitions since the shock defeat at Burnley and, alongside Chelsea's loss at the DW Stadium, took them top of table. And O'Shea keeping that fine run going is the only thing on the players' minds.

"We knew we had to put a good run together after the Burnley defeat which was a freak result," he explained.

"We've always responded well to results like that with a great run of victories, but the games keep on coming and we've got to keep that run going."


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Sir Alex hails Giggs impact

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Sir Alex Ferguson heaped yet more praise on Ryan Giggs following the Reds’ impressive 2-0 win over Stoke at the Britannia Stadium.

The Welshman stepped off the bench at 0-0 to create both goals, first latching on to Darren Fletcher's fine threaded pass to cross for Berbatov to tap in, then curling in a free-kick for John O’Shea to head home.

The United boss was delighted with Giggs’ contribution, and hailed his positional sense as a key factor in the midfielder’s performance.

“He’s important, he made the goals,” Sir Alex told MUTV. “I felt his intelligence would give them a bit of bother on that side of the pitch.

"I think Nani did his job quite well. He kept penetrating and keeping them pinned back, but Ryan brings you something else. He’s got the intelligence to take up good positions and for the first goal he made a lovely run in behind them to get the pass from Darren Fletcher and roll it along for Berbatov to score.”

Ferguson was also elated with Giggs’ free-kick that led to O’Shea’s header, which sealed the winner and made the Irishman’s 350th appearance for the Reds one to remember.

“It was a nice free-kick from Ryan. You’re always looking for that second goal to kill the game – the sooner it comes the better.

“I felt we were a much bigger threat in the second half, particularly after we scored.”


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Faith in Foster

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Nemanja Vidic insists he and his fellow defenders have total confidence in goalkeeper Ben Foster.

The 26-year-old stopper came in for criticism during last Sunday's derby victory after his failure to deal with a hopeful ball forward from City led to the Blues' opening goal.

Despite seeing Tomasz Kuszczak keep a clean sheet and put on a good performance in the Carling Cup win over Wolves in midweek, Sir Alex opted to stick with Foster for Saturday's trip to Stoke and he repaid his manager's faith with a clean sheet and solid display.

And Vidic says the defence have great belief in the England international.

"I feel very comfortable with Ben in goal and I have great confidence in him," the Serbian told ManUtd.com.

"The more games you play with the same keeper or the same defenders the more you learn how to play with each other.

"Everyone makes mistakes, that’s normal, but we all know what a good keeper Ben is."


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btw,what happened to the 80 million from the transfer of Ronaldo?
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give nani one or two more years. hes gonna be the nx fletcher smile.gif

valencia is such a boring winger to watch sad.gif
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The good thing is he manages to cross the ball into the penalty almost all the time.. smile.gif You dont really find such wingers these days...


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imho.. nani and valencia should learn from Giggs. smile.gif
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well yeah..nani's got much to learn...thanks for coming over tho smile.gif

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QUOTE(Wan @ Sep 27 2009, 02:55 AM)
And I have to say, if Scholes was shown a 2nd yellow there for his handball, it would have been harsh IMO. We can see lots of incidents where the ref didn't give anything other than a freekick/penalty unless it was an obvious one, or stopping a goal chance. What do you guys think about that? I was worried though, I thought he would have gone straight away seeing our luck over the years with referee regarding giving our players the 2nd yellow.
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If scholes was sent off, it would have been harsh, but then again his hand were high up his body. Incidents where ref did not give anything when ball hits player's hands is because it was not intentional and the players keep their hands down. So normally, referee will see the position of player's hands if they were to issue a foul or not. I am not so sure we will have a point against the referee if he sent Scholes off last nite.

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We are using it to buy the referees instead.
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After last night's match , I was like " What are we going to do without Giggs? " . Awesome performance by him . *Applaud*

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berba and jos both hail giggs as running towards him after the goals... emo, emo and emo... especially the berba one... they know how difficult it was to get a goal yesterday..
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Sell Nani, buy Silva.

Sell Carrick, get Xavi.

Sell Berbatov, get Aguerro ...
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we got 3 points and we are still arguing?? lol cmon guys  huh.gif
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biasa la tue...

ini mesti kes Nani main mcm $### nie semalam..

he is just not consistent at the moment, he cant keep his performance, up and down like yoyo eh...
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Nani is trying to play like Ronaldo , which we all know he cant achieve , he should change his playing style .
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valencia played worse than nani last night but people dont slag him off that much.. he already played in england 3 years before he joined us
even saf said nani played quite well
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Didn't know Gary was a cricketer. I'm glad that he chose United than cricket though. A long read but it's worth the time. Here's part of the interview

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They were team-mates at an under-15 Bunbury festival. Neville was to bat at three, ahead of the future England captain. But a broken finger put paid to his cricketing aspirations.

26th September 2009

Starting a new series of interviews, Michael Vaughan talks to his old friend about cricket and life at Manchester United...

MV: I want to ask about City to start with.

GN: Do you now? There's a surprise.

MV: They have spent loads of money. Did the game on Sunday feel any different?

GN: It did. The build-up was different. Derbies always get a build-up but this time it seemed there was a lot more talk coming out of their camp then there has in the past. There was a lot more confidence from them and I think because of the money they have spent the press wanted to build it up more and turned it into a game of national interest, whereas in the past it has been more of a local thing.
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MV: Were you on the stopwatch? Is that your job now?

GN (who was on the bench): To be honest people have a go at us for scoring goals late in the game but to be fair we score goals late because of our mentality. We don't stop until the last second of the match.

MV: You must have a huge belief to do that because you score goals late so often.

GN: It runs through the club and runs through all the big clubs. If you look at what was happening in the last five minutes on Sunday you will see that their bench were looking at their watches and wanting the draw. We were thinking 'lets go on and win the game.'

MV: All Sunday was missing was Brian Kidd on his knees celebrating like he did when Steve Bruce scored against Sheffield Wednesday. Did you think of doing it?

GN: If Sky had been quicker they could probably have caught me doing it.

MV: I'm a football fan and watching the Emmanuel Adebayor celebration a couple of weeks ago I didn't think there was much wrong. OK he probably ran 30 yards too far. But you guys take the brunt of the stick. It must be hard when you score a goal to not react when people are abusing. Do you have sympathy with Adebayor?

GN: In football we have all become too sensitive. You celebrate a goal because you are winning a football match. Fans give you loads of stick. You give them a bit back. That is football.
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MV: On to cricket. I have always wanted to ask this question. At that under-15 Bunbury festival, when you bust your finger, if that hadn't happened and you had scored four or five hundreds, would you have chosen cricket over football?

GN: My mind was made up on United. I signed for them when I was 14 but I enjoyed my cricket more between 14-16 than I did football. Before that I was an unspectacular child cricketer, but then I started playing with Lancs under-14s. I started getting better and played a decent level of club cricket with Matt Hayden and Franklyn Stephenson. But really [brother] Phillip had a bigger choice to make.

From 12-13, he was outstanding at cricket and beating records set by Mike Atherton and John Crawley. He had a genuine choice but he followed me because of the passion for watching United, but to this day I would have liked to see Phil go on and play for Lancashire. I was never good enough and you can confirm that.


MV: You were at the Twenty20 washout at Old Trafford. If you were ECB boss what would you change in cricket?

GN: If I could change something I would want to make county cricket more attractive. Maybe create a world series of domestic cricket where state teams from Australia and South Africa and sides from India and Pakistan play here in a world league of four-day cricket. County cricket looks dead to me. Maybe that's wrong. But they get small crowds and that is no good for the lads playing.

MV: I will pass your number on to Giles Clarke.

GN: Just tell him to give me a ring. I have spent 10 years trying to have a go at the FA. Might as well have a go at the ECB now.

MV: You have done a couple of your coaching badges. Do you want to go into management?

GN: I have to say it doesn't interest me but I suppose you never know.


MV: So you won't be managing Man City?

GN: That would never happen. There are certain clubs I just couldn't manage or play for.

MV: When will you retire?

GN: I said at the start of this season that if my injury situation didn't improve then that would be it. I have given it one last go to see if I can have a season injury-free, but my decision will depend on how I feel going into the new year and how the club feels. They have others and they may not want this option next season.


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damn... i know this has been said before. but nani is shit man... i wish we had another giggs to replace giggs jurnior.... sad.gif
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yeah yeah yeah..nani is shit..sell him off..last time giggs oso shit..sell him off..and last week foster did some mistake..sell him off..VDS didnt do so well againts liverpool last season..sell him off..
ronaldo wanna move..sell him off(eh..its sold..) scholes dunno hw to tackle..sell him off..SAF stupid..sell him off..we sell all of our people..every1 is shit..
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no one detects my sarcasm eh? LOL.

I am giving time to the lads to prove all of the pundits and other fans wrong. We are fighting for our fourth consecutive league title and to our 19th which will knock Pool out of their perch. Hehe.

I expect feisty affairs between the players and fans. The latter will result to extreme measures, no?
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do ur guys judge the players on one match forms or a season forms,its a better if we try at least give them chance,yeah i agree nani really out form last nite even on his first touch but he have something to prove us,just give him a time,same goes to valencia just a few BPL matches cant show us what he could do in the red shirt,some people here want to know what the team do for that 80m sales... IMO better use it for build up the young lads,we have enough than good young lads,they only need times before shining in the first place
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yet again, we are back to where we belong.................
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We are using it to buy the referees instead.
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valencia is a different type of player guys. he's more like an Ashley Young or Liam Milner except he doesn't get as much freedom to roam everywhere on the field. and i think fergie is going back to basics and try to play a game which beckham used to have in him by giving ppl like Giggs, the wingers and the full backs to cross the ball as much as possible ( a perfect example would be the derby game. 2 goals from crosses), because with one of the deadliest finishers we have in the league like berbs, owen and wazza (i really couldn't think of a team which can top us on that) we definitely can live life without cRon. and for Nani's case, i think he can excel and suceed. at least most of the united team and cRon himself came out to say he can, he has the quality, nice quick feet, both feet very powerful, he just needs to be more physical and try not trying to over-impress the ppl you know

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QUOTE(wild_card_my @ Sep 27 2009, 11:16 AM)
damn... i know this has been said before. but nani is shit man... i wish we had another giggs to replace giggs jurnior.... sad.gif
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I will never say Nani is shit....

But he just lack of experience to decide what he should do with the ball at different circumstances.....

If you mention about talent, yes he has even. If not why would Sir Alex buy him?

Fletcher was shit too as ppl said but now he is now treated like a midfield king... that's not the mentality we must have....

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QUOTE(davidlow7 @ Sep 27 2009, 12:34 PM)
I will never say Nani is shit....

But he just lack of experience to decide what he should do with the ball at different circumstances.....

If you mention about talent, yes he has even. If not why would Sir Alex buy him?

Fletcher was shit too as ppl said but now he is now treated like a midfield king... that's not the mentality we must have....
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well i think it's sometimes frustrating to watch him play. he often takes too much time on the ball and wastes alot of opportunity.
there are many times where he could thread the pass or just simply take the shot for himself, but he just holds on to the ball.
maybe he lacks of confidence or trying too hard who knows.
he just needs to make up his mind better. his style of play is too readable.

well fletcher was kinda crappy two seasons ago. but now he's matured.
i believe nani was crappy two seasons ago. but he's still the same today.
ahaha that is the point. there is no improvement.

well i believe the reason MU is doing so well now is cos the fringe players like fletcher, o'shea and maybe evra has stepped up their game.
now there is no weakness in all the positions of MU.
last time there were excellent players (rooney, ronaldo, scholes maybe?) and the others were abit of the "weak link"
now everyone has stepped up their game and they are a good team all around as a whole.
much much better.


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I'd say give Nani some time, it's OK to criticise him if he is having a poor game.
Try not to be too harsh on him, this kid got talent and has a powerful two footed. His crosses seem a little off but his lobbing skill is brilliant.
Sometimes a player can make you eat back your own words, I'm sure Nistelrooy never expect that he is now playing again with the world most expensive player where he used to critise him during his last season in Man Utd.

And yesterday game, finally a defender scored a goal for us. Looks like the goals is coming from all department now.
Was worried when Scholes handed the ball, luckily the referee just gave some warning. I'll treat it as the compensation for 1st half where Scholes volley in a great ball but blocked by the defender's hand in the box tongue.gif


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Scholesy was unlucky and it was not intended.
Thus the ref gave a warning.

The referee overall was a bit lenient yesterday. I think pretty okay so far.

On Nani, did anyone notice he was kept being pushed when he tried to go pass the opponents??? They couldn't stop him so just pushed him down
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Ferdinand was solid yesterday. A lot of clearences from him and fletcher+scholes in midfield really dominated well smile.gif Seldom loosing the ball and manage to hold the ball well..

Wasn't nani's best match tho =P
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QUOTE(GIGGS_11 @ Sep 27 2009, 01:25 PM)
I'd say give Nani some time, it's OK to criticise him if he is having a poor game.
Try not to be too harsh on him, this kid got talent and has a powerful two footed. His crosses seem a little off but his lobbing skill is brilliant.
Sometimes a player can make you eat back your own words, I'm sure Nistelrooy never expect that he is now playing again with the world most expensive player where he used to critise him during his last season in Man Utd.


And yesterday game, finally a defender scored a goal for us. Looks like the goals is coming from all department now.
Was worried when Scholes handed the ball, luckily the referee just gave some warning. I'll treat it as the compensation for 1st half where Scholes volley in a great ball but blocked by the defender's hand in the box tongue.gif
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QUOTE(davidlow7 @ Sep 27 2009, 01:31 PM)
Scholesy was unlucky and it was not intended.
Thus the ref gave a warning.

The referee overall was a bit lenient yesterday. I think pretty okay so far.

On Nani, did anyone notice he was kept being pushed when he tried to go pass the opponents??? They couldn't stop him so just pushed him down
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QUOTE(nimrod2 @ Sep 27 2009, 12:44 PM)
well i think it's sometimes frustrating to watch him play. he often takes too much time on the ball and wastes alot of opportunity.
there are many times where he could thread the pass or just simply take the shot for himself, but he just holds on to the ball.
maybe he lacks of confidence or trying too hard who knows.
he just needs to make up his mind better. his style of play is too readable.

well fletcher was kinda crappy two seasons ago. but now he's matured.
i believe nani was crappy two seasons ago. but he's still the same today.
ahaha that is the point. there is no improvement.

well i believe the reason MU is doing so well now is cos the fringe players like fletcher, o'shea and maybe evra has stepped up their game.
now there is no weakness in all the positions of MU.
last time there were excellent players (rooney, ronaldo, scholes maybe?) and the others were abit of the "weak link"
now everyone has stepped up their game and they are a good team all around as a whole.
much much better.
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No complaints on the Stoke match. The players got the job done.

However, I agree that Nani is making all the wrong decisions, and remains the most frustrating player in the squad for me. In flashes, Nani has shown he has the ability. It's the consistency that is the problem. Hopefully with Ronnie gone, he will get a run of games that will help hem get that.

By the way, Fletch has improved because he's now playing centre midfield. His crappy days was when he was playing wide right. I used to groan out loud whenever I saw Ferguson playing that way.

Also, since when has Evra ever been a fringe player??
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No complaints on the Stoke match. The players got the job done.

However, I agree that Nani is making all the wrong decisions, and remains the most frustrating player in the squad for me. In flashes, Nani has shown he has the ability. It's the consistency that is the problem. Hopefully with Ronnie gone, he will get a run of games that will help hem get that.

By the way, Fletch has improved because he's now playing centre midfield. His crappy days was when he was playing wide right. I used to groan out loud whenever I saw Ferguson playing that way.

Also, since when has Evra ever been a fringe player??
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QUOTE(Mayomythical @ Sep 27 2009, 02:58 PM)
Also, since when has Evra ever been a fringe player??
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With all due respect, Vidic and Evra was pretty rubbish the first season they're here. The next season, was a different story.

It is good to see Giggs going for a good run at this time of his career, but we cannot depend on him every game to come in and provide. The current wingers have to step up.
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why city game so late one ar? i saw 3 am, very late le
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why city game so late one ar? i saw 3 am, very late le
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QUOTE(MADReaLJL @ Sep 27 2009, 11:12 AM)
valencia played worse than nani last night but people dont slag him off that much.. he already played in england 3 years before he joined us
even saf said nani played quite well
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Valencia is still new. So it's forgiven. But wait 6 months, the knife will be out. Won't be long before people complain about him not being anywhere near as good as Ronaldo was for us if he doesn't perform next few months. Typical nature. We expect success almost straight away. sweat.gif

QUOTE(Mayomythical @ Sep 27 2009, 02:58 PM)
No complaints on the Stoke match. The players got the job done.

However, I agree that Nani is making all the wrong decisions, and remains the most frustrating player in the squad for me. In flashes, Nani has shown he has the ability. It's the consistency that is the problem. Hopefully with Ronnie gone, he will get a run of games that will help hem get that.

By the way, Fletch has improved because he's now playing centre midfield. His crappy days was when he was playing wide right. I used to groan out loud whenever I saw Ferguson playing that way.

Also, since when has Evra ever been a fringe player??
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Even when playing centrally just a few seasons back, Fletcher's form fluctuates. Good-very good against the big teams, but generally against the smaller teams he never really perform in most games. He was average-decent in most. He just wasn't able to stamp his mark and look almost scared to play forward passes too much. Even me, one of his loyal defenders in here over the years thought he would probably have gone after Anderson came and conquer that midfield in his first season, and with Possesbon showing potential there that season. After that Fletcher really stepped up and became a regular for us there. Right now we can't do without him in the big games. It can change easily in a few months/just a few seasons. So I say let's wait till it's a foregone conclusion that someone won't make it here.


Added on September 27, 2009, 5:38 pmBtw, did anyone else think Giggsy would play as well as he has on the wings ever again after seeing him more centrally over the last few seasons? I really thought his time was over there. In fact, last season he hardly plays there right. But this season somehow he became our best winger so far.. and he's 35 years old. Most wingers his age would have retired by now.

VDS in goal, 39.
Scholes in midfield.. still our best midfielder, 34.
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well i think it's sometimes frustrating to watch him play. he often takes too much time on the ball and wastes alot of opportunity.
there are many times where he could thread the pass or just simply take the shot for himself, but he just holds on to the ball.
maybe he lacks of confidence or trying too hard who knows.
he just needs to make up his mind better. his style of play is too readable.

well fletcher was kinda crappy two seasons ago. but now he's matured.
i believe nani was crappy two seasons ago. but he's still the same today.
ahaha that is the point. there is no improvement.

well i believe the reason MU is doing so well now is cos the fringe players like fletcher, o'shea and maybe evra has stepped up their game.
now there is no weakness in all the positions of MU.
last time there were excellent players (rooney, ronaldo, scholes maybe?) and the others were abit of the "weak link"
now everyone has stepped up their game and they are a good team all around as a whole.
much much better.
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Fletcher broke through into the first team at the same time we got Ronaldo. That's 5-6 seasons ago! He was 'shit' until 2 seasons back where he turned it around. Nani is only starting his third..

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When Ronaldo gets a pass like that, he runs the length of the pitch, tears off his shirt, and reveals a tattoo that says "I Belong To Real Madrid".
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Fair enough, I remember Vidic & Evra having a nightmare of a first game, was against the Shittys, I think.
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Did he know when he joined City. The fans was okay with him... Respected him as usual but he went further to accuse SAF... and Fergie at first kept quiet and then he went further and further......

Again further and further ....

That's how me myself also start to get fed up with him.

The respect was only for him to lose.

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QUOTE(davidlow7 @ Sep 27 2009, 09:17 PM)
Did he know when he joined City. The fans was okay with him... Respected him as usual but he went further to accuse SAF... and Fergie at first kept quiet and then he went further and further......

Again further and further ....

That's how me myself also start to get fed up with him.

The respect was only for him to lose.
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I'm totally agree with you.
I was understand Tevez's situation, and I have "nothing to hate" while he join City.
But he was over arrogant. Maybe Fergie did something wrong to him but doesn't mean he should accuse Fergie further and further.
You see David Beckham or Diego Forlan never speak like Carlos Tevez.

So, who is hypocrites?
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And to think that there are still fans whom kept defending the twat just irks me.

Was a good servant when playing for our club. Helped scoring crucial goals yet still a twat to me for non stop b****ing.

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Eh tai lou's... that interview was not given by him lah. That was all Zabaleta. Zabaleta can say all the crap he wants, although Tevez is capable of saying the same, for now, we know it wasnt him!

He'll probably understand, that its not him joining City thats the problem, its him dissin' SAF that ticked us off
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QUOTE(aboogee @ Sep 27 2009, 10:45 PM)
Eh tai lou's... that interview was not given by him lah. That was all Zabaleta. Zabaleta can say all the crap he wants, although Tevez is capable of saying the same, for now, we know it wasnt him!

He'll probably understand, that its not him joining City thats the problem, its him dissin' SAF that ticked us off
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and we don't want any other fans saying we are hypocrite..
claiming we defended Tevez and now against him cause he is City's fan

That's never the case....


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I'm beginning to think that there's a reason why Tevez talked to the media and blast SAF, team mates and fan so much.

As we all know, Man utd always media's favourite, so they approach Tevez to talk about United on and on and on.

Probably because Tevez doesn't know how to think what's the media intention he just talk. Probably also he's trying to be nice. Yeah so nice until the media people also so 'nice'.

I'm beginning to think it's whether the media have twisted his word and view or they don't know how to translate and write or misunderstood what Tevez has said.

United are always being treated like that.

So starting from today, i have no reason to hate him no matter what other people say. And i have no reason to like him too.

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And yet again, it is proven beyond doubt that NANI is not a good player for MU standard...!!
he doesn't pass the ball because he don't have the Football Sense and intelligence !!

when he got the ball, all that he is thinking of  " i want to be hero and dribble pass 10 players and score a spectacular goal !"

And pls stop your bullsh1t about Nani not having enough game and stuff....
he has been given enough chances ....
SAF should just sell off NANI, give others player a chance and move on...!!!
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sell Nani, use back the 80M and buy back Ronaldo then you will be the happy man
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QUOTE(beck_ken @ Sep 28 2009, 01:24 AM)
sell Nani, use back the 80M and buy back Ronaldo then you will be the happy man
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got to agree with u..sell nani..and re-buy ronaldo..
that's what will make them happy..they didnt even have the time to give nani to improve himself..
they want waste the money on a world best player instead of trying to create a new world best player..
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sell Nani, use back the 80M and buy back Ronaldo then you will be the happy man
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will RM agree with that? haha.. just let them be..

Anyone can express their feelings.. and for sure, anyone who watch the stoke game will have a lot of frustration with Nani.. he kinda of ikut mood punya player laugh.gif
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Manchester United are said to be closing in on the signature of Grenoble starlet Sofiane Feghouli, according to reports in France.

The 19-year-old has, like many before him, been dubbed the 'new Zidane' by the French media and has seen his name linked with a number of Europe's biggest clubs.

Despite the high level of interest the attacking midfielder has been quick to stress that he is happy learning his trade in Ligue 1 rather than warming the bench abroad.

However, the situation has changed considerably after Feghouli criticised Grenoble fans for their lack of support in recent weeks.

Grenoble find themselves bottom of the table having lost all seven of their league games this term, giving the impression that Feghouli has outgrown the French outfit.

The youngster was expected to depart last summer with Barcelona, Liverpool and Inter Milan monitoring his situation.

However, it now appears that Sir Alex Ferguson has upped his interest in the star and could be prepared to bid for Feghouli in January.


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Out of topic.

Was at Tokyo Game Show Yesterday.

Manage to play the new Winning Eleven for PS3. Can only choose either Barca, Liverpool, Brazil or Italy sad.gif

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QUOTE(corez @ Sep 28 2009, 10:02 AM)
Out of topic.

Was at Tokyo Game Show Yesterday.

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Boo to torresssss!!!

Ah jeles dapat gambar ngan awek nihonnnnnnnnnn.

Tokyo is a must!!!
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QUOTE(corez @ Sep 28 2009, 10:02 AM)
Out of topic.

Was at Tokyo Game Show Yesterday.

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Ni yg bikin jeles ni..but those are great pic, thanks for sharing bro smile.gif

I though you scored a hattrick last weekend but you're in Tokyo hmm.gif laugh.gif

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Fergie show his trump card on the pitch ehh..
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Fergie show his trump card on the pitch ehh..
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duno how many players were dubbed as the new Zidane in the French League doh.gif:

even Arsenal's Samir Nasri was dubbed as the next Zidane... too many dubbed Zidane(s) around tongue.gif
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now i understand why SAF dont play nani as much last season..
with valencia adapting to united colour and style having another winger still.. and still growing up i hv to say we dont look good on wing/AMRL department. look like we hv more quantity than quality here..

thank god fletcher really step up and giggs still rock at the age of 35!!
also scholes still hungry for success and suck at tackles laugh.gif
giggs is the new king for me notworthy.gif

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shakehead.gif Giggs has ALWAYS been the king.

I'd hate to think of the inevitable day when he hangs up his boots.
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QUOTE(onepack @ Sep 28 2009, 01:04 PM)
now i understand why SAF dont play nani as much last season..
with valencia adapting to united colour and style having another winger still.. and still growing up i hv to say we dont look good on wing/AMRL department. look like we hv more quantity than quality here..

thank god fletcher really step up and giggs still rock at the age of 35!!
also scholes still hungry for success and suck at tackles  laugh.gif
giggs is the new king for me  notworthy.gif
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Well, Nani just need to tick that consistency box every single time he steps up on the pitch. Right now he forgot to do that before each game, that's why you see him like that. He's quality no doubt.
Valencia is adapting, but he's very good. With him in the side, we won't have to worry about our side lacking width. He will always provide that, although his final delivery and play doesn't quite work just yet.
Park we know about. He's now world class, but a very good squad layer.
Giggs is still turning it on at 35, thank god!

And Obertan will be the surprise package.. hopefully. Have high hopes for him.
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QUOTE(heeren @ Sep 28 2009, 01:03 PM)
duno how many players were dubbed as the new Zidane in the French League doh.gif:

even Arsenal's Samir Nasri was dubbed as the next Zidane... too many dubbed Zidane(s) around tongue.gif
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Bordeaux's yoann gorcuff is also dubbed as next zidane tongue.gif

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almost every prospect player dubbed as next zidane, even Ribery as well

our radar starting to roam in French club
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QUOTE(Wan @ Sep 28 2009, 01:56 PM)
Well, Nani just need to tick that consistency box every single time he steps up on the pitch. Right now he forgot to do that before each game, that's why you see him like that. He's quality no doubt.
Valencia is adapting, but he's very good. With him in the side, we won't have to worry about our side lacking width. He will always provide that, although his final delivery and play doesn't quite work just yet.
Park we know about. He's now world class, but a very good squad layer.
Giggs is still turning it on at 35, thank god!

And Obertan will be the surprise package.. hopefully. Have high hopes for him.
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was obertan registered for the CL squad as well? same here - hoping for some greatness from him....
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today heard the radio saying that MU planning to buy a great keeper..
but was not paying attention about it..
so any news on this?
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today heard the radio saying that MU planning to buy a great keeper..
but was not paying attention about it..
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great keeper? who? Cassilas?
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Darren Fletcher seeks fulfilment in the Champions League with Manchester United
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Darren Fletcher will probably be tempted to stick his fingers in his ears when the Champions League anthem rings out around Old Trafford before the Group B encounter with Wolfsburg on Wednesday.

By missing last season's final against Barcelona in Rome due to suspension, the Manchester United midfielder ironically became identified as the reason why Sir Alex Ferguson's team failed to defend their trophy in Rome.

Fletcher's stock rose by virtue of the fact that he was sitting in the stands in his club suit, paying a heavy price for his bewildering dismissal for an apparent goal-saving tackle in the semi-final victory over Arsenal.

But his new identity as the player Man United could not do without washed over Fletcher. For the second time in 12 months, a Champions League final was taking place in front of him when he only wanted to be on the pitch.

"I think my reputation has maybe been enhanced a little bit since missing Rome," Fletcher admits. "But I just watched the final from the stand, behind the bench, with the other lads who weren't involved.

"I was just a fan. I felt the team had put a lot of effort in, so let's go and win it. But after the game, walking around the pitch with the other lads, I was gutted.

"A year earlier, I was on the bench in Moscow [when United beat Chelsea] and didn't get on, so I don't feel as though I have won the Champions League.

"Moscow was great, but you want to play in the final. When you don't get on the pitch, you don't feel involved."

At 25, Fletcher is at least consoled by the fact that he will have more opportunities to make it third time lucky in a Champions League final. His emergence as United's leading midfielder in recent months ensures that he will have a key role in helping the team reach Madrid in May.

But how has it happened? Where has this destructive, energetic goal-scoring midfielder come from? Four years ago he had been written off many of the club's supporters and singled out for criticism by Roy Keane during his infamous dissection of a 4-1 defeat at Middlesbrough on MUTV in October, 2005.

The Scot, alongside Wayne Rooney, has emerged as perhaps United's most important player since the summer departure of Cristiano Ronaldo to Real Madrid.

He may not dominate the headlines like Rooney or Ronaldo, but United have lost just one of the last 47 games started by Fletcher – a 2-0 defeat at Fulham in March. Barcelona and Burnley both triumphed against United in Fletcher's absence.

As United prepare to face the German champions in their second group game this season, Fletcher is suddenly the man of the moment and he credits much of that to Keane, the man whose criticism could have broken him.

Fletcher said: "On the pitch and in the dressing room, Roy was always fantastic for me. He was constantly reiterating what it means to play for United, what it takes professionally.

"He always used to tell me, 'I get on your back because I want you to do well. If I ignore you, that's when you should be worried'. It is something that has always stuck with me.

"He was constantly there and I learned so much from him. The player I am now, and the way I am off the pitch, my professional levels, has all come from that.

"The biggest thing was the infamous MUTV video, which was really a kick up the backside for everyone. Anything Roy ever said, it was always done to fire you up. He was never going to tiptoe around people or put an arm around your shoulder.

"He used to make comments around the training ground and maybe get a bit annoyed at me because I snapped around at his ankles, but if he did have a go at me, I thought 'right, I'm going to prove you wrong'. That's the reaction he wanted."

Two days after Keane's interview, Fletcher reached his nadir when he was booed off the pitch as United slumped to defeat against Lille in Paris.

"It wasn't easy, but it was character-building stuff," he admits. "I could have gone away and hid and played within myself, but that's not me.

"Don't get me wrong because, at times, it wasn't easy going on to the pitch and being singled out, but you have to learn from it."

When he sat in the main stand of the Olympic Stadium last May, Fletcher was the one player United arguably needed most of all.

Without him, Lionel Messi, Andres Iniesta and Xavi went unshackled as Barca dethroned United with an all-too comfortable 2-0 victory, but Fletcher insists he is more than the 'destroyer' many have labelled him as since Rome.

"I don't want to be pigeonholed as a destroyer," Fletcher said. "The whole idea is to become an all-round midfielder, who can pass the ball, score goals and get the team going.

"I can be a destroyer when we don't have the ball and set a high tempo and be the trigger. When we don't have possession, I'm thinking, 'right, I'm going to be the first one to press and win it back'."

Fletcher's ability to press and harass opponents was best displayed in United's 2-1 victory against Arsenal last month when his second-half performance helped force Arsène Wenger's team into submission.

The tenacity of Fletcher and Michael Carrick prompted Wenger to criticise United's 'anti-football', but Fletcher regards Wenger's comments as a compliment.

He said: "Wenger still hasn't mentioned me by name, he just says 'that player at United'.

"It doesn't bother me one bit, though. I don't know whether he was trying to get referees to pick up on me, but I have always seen myself as a fair player. I'm not dirty. I go to win the ball, but that is part of the game.

"Tackling is part of the game and British football fans love to see that. Winning the ball back and quick transitions are a big part of the game. Maybe you could say that it was a compliment in some respects."

When Wolfsburg visit on Wednesday, they will encounter a United team still finding its feet without Ronaldo.

Replacing Ronaldo, Ferguson has already conceded, is an impossible task, but Fletcher insists that United must move on and prosper without the Portuguese forward.

He said: "The manager has pointed out that Ronaldo has gone and that is a huge goal difference that we need to fill. As players, we all have to rise to the challenge.

"Ronaldo was good for us, but a lot of players sacrificed themselves for Cristiano too. In a lot of games, I'd be asked to play in central midfield but, whenever he went forward, I'd have to get out to the right to cover him.

"Maybe, now we have got back to 4-4-2, where everybody drops back as a four, it gives the midfielders more opportunity to bomb forward.

"I'd like to think I can get double figures this season because, in this team, you are always likely to get chances if you can get into the box."

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pergh.. bila pulak kau pegi tokyo ni.. tak de pun ajak.. ceh shocking.gif

aku tak kesah kau nak tunjuk gambar2 tu.. tp gambar yg last tu bole tak kau simpan je dalam laptop kau.. vmad.gif

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aku tak kesah kau nak tunjuk gambar2 tu.. tp gambar yg last tu bole tak kau simpan je dalam laptop kau..  vmad.gif
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ala apa yg ko jeloes tu.... kan dia photoshop jer gamber tue... mana ada real beb... tongue.gif
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today heard the radio saying that MU planning to buy a great keeper..
but was not paying attention about it..
so any news on this?
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they are going to buy Sporting lisbon keeper - Rui Patricio... aged 21 only...

Young and talented but there is also another keeper on their wish list, but i forget the name already...
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Ben Foster has revealed the debt of gratitude he owes to Manchester United manager Sir Alex Ferguson. There was widespread speculation that Foster would be dropped for Saturday's Premier League win at Stoke. Foster was certainly to blame for Manchester City's opening goal in the derby encounter last weekend, while questions were also asked about his dismal efforts to prevent Craig Bellamy scoring the Blues' third equaliser. Yet at the first available opportunity, Ferguson insisted he was sticking with the 26-year-old and was rewarded with a clean sheet as United defeated Stoke 2-0 at the Britannia Stadium to go top for the first time this season.

"I have to say a big thanks to the boss for sticking by me," said Foster. "Last Sunday was great for the team but personally, it was an absolute disaster. "I was gutted afterwards. I was the only one in the changing room with an upside down smile on his face."

The torment continued long into the week as professional and amateur analysts had their say. Foster could have driven himself mad by pouring over every damning word. Instead, he chose to ignore it all.

"I pretty much buried my head in the sand," he said. "I didn't really want to watch the television and there was no way I was reading the papers the next day."

Not that Foster could escape scrutiny. But the assessments that mattered were kept within United's Carrington training complex as goalkeeping coach Eric Steele delivered his withering verdict.

"When we got into training I had to face up to it," he said. "I had to look at the replays, analyse them and learn from them. "The goalkeeping coach has been on at me all week and was really hard on me. But I needed that and I like to think I have learnt from it. "You are going to have those days as a goalkeeper sometimes and you have to keep them to a minimum."

As Foster acknowledges, mental fortitude is one of the major reasons why Edwin van der Sar has lasted so long at the top. Whereas Foster used to look at the battle for a first-team berth with the 39-year-old as purely an assessment of their relative abilities, now he realises it is much more. Van der Sar makes mistakes like everybody else. His big advantage is not being affected by them.

"The more you play the more concentration and consistency you develop," he said. "Edwin is a typical example of Mr Cool. He is a fantastic professional and he is someone I want to emulate at Manchester United. "He is exactly what I am aiming to be for years to come."

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FOSTER READY TO REPAY FAITH
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Really hope he can walk the talk thou.... I really hope he can learn from it and prove me wrong that i had write him off...
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QUOTE(bcts85 @ Sep 28 2009, 03:38 PM)
they are going to buy Sporting lisbon keeper - Rui Patricio... aged 21 only...

Young and talented but there is also another keeper on their wish list,  but i forget the name already...
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Really hope he can walk the talk thou.... I really hope he can learn from it and prove me wrong that i had write him off...
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i beginning to hate foster...he suck big time sigh

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Nani has revealed he turns to ex-Manchester United team-mate Cristiano Ronaldo whenever he needs a confidence booster.

The Portugal international is likely to have exhausted his phone bill at the weekend following a poor display at Stoke.

The skilful 22-year-old was wasteful to say the least in United's 2-0 win at Stoke before being hauled off early in the second half for Ryan Giggs, who helped set up both goals for Sir Alex Ferguson's side.

Nani has revealed he remains close with Real Madrid superstar Ronaldo and the pair often talk about how he can improve his game.

Confidence

"Cristiano and I talk a lot," explained Nani. "We speak about my own game and he gives me confidence to go out and perform."

The world's most expensive player Ronaldo has backed his international colleague's credentials and believes that in the coming years he will be amongst the world's best.

Ronaldo said: "Nani is an excellent player and I am sure that in a few years he will be among the best players in the world."


http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11661_5588742,00.html
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QUOTE(heeren @ Sep 28 2009, 03:11 PM)
was obertan registered for the CL squad as well? same here - hoping for some greatness from him....
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yes.. he was registered in..
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well yeah...nani is backed by ronaldo..but nani u must learn wat to do at the right time....lol
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well yeah...nani is backed by ronaldo..but nani u must learn wat to do at the right time....lol
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Its the decision making that makes most of us tearing our hairs out sweat.gif rclxub.gif icon_question.gif

We all know he has the skills & ability but just to know when to do what. I remember the commentator did said there was a time when Rooney was anticipating an early cross from him but he end up dragging it too long and end up a goal kick for Stoke instead.
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Its the decision making that makes most of us tearing our hairs out  sweat.gif  rclxub.gif  icon_question.gif

We all know he has the skills & ability but just to know when to do what. I remember the commentator did said there was a time when Rooney was anticipating an early cross from him but he end up dragging it too long and end up a goal kick for Stoke instead.
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he need to learn decision making process...
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the other keeper dats been in todays rumor was Julio Caesar (Inter Milan)
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the other keeper dats been in todays rumor was Julio Caesar (Inter Milan)
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IINM ..it was on the paper that the buyout clause for Messi is more than 100M euro
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IINM ..it was on the paper that the buyout clause for Messi is more than 100M euro
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perhaps need to wait until he got nothing to archieve anymore at there? what else he have not got from Barca?
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perhaps need to wait until he got nothing to archieve anymore at there? what else he have not got from Barca?
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Giggsy, Raul, Maldini.. Messi could be one of them.
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maybe till he say " i always dream to play for man utd.. wearing red"
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Rosenborg ace Anthony Annan admits he is flattered by the reported interest from Arsenal and Manchester United.

Speculation has been rife in Norway and the 23-year-old's homeland of Ghana that the English sides have stepped up their interest in the midfielder.

The former Start player only signed for Rosenborg last year but has already attracted interest from a whole host of English clubs.

Annan was thought to be close to a switch to Blackburn last summer after impressing on trial but a move failed to materialise.

But it now appears comparisons with national team-mate Michael Essien have alerted the Gunners and Red Devils.

"Essien is a top player, to be (compared) alongside him is amazing," he told skysports.com.

"He has everything, class, power, touch, stamina, what a player, to compare him to me? People are crazy. I learn a lot alongside him, he is simply awesome.

"To me, to be followed by Arsenal and Man United, they are two great teams. I just won the league here let me enjoy it and we will see in the future."

For the time being Annan is determined to focus all his attention on the World Cup next summer and the African Cup of Nations in January.

"I can't wait to represent Ghana in South Africa, but in January we need to go for the African Nations Cup."


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The right result

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Dimitar Berbatov says United's positive approach to Saturday's game at Stoke City merited the 2-0 win and three points that took the Reds to the summit of the Barclays Premier League.

Despite being away from home, Sir Alex's men enjoyed approximately 70 per cent of possession in a game in which United goalkeeper Ben Foster didn't have a save to make.

Resolute Stoke defending kept the Reds at bay until the 62nd minute when Berbatov tapped home from close range to finish off a cross from influential substitute Ryan Giggs.

"I think the game changed when Ryan came on," the Bulgarian told MUTV. "You can see the years he has been playing for Manchester United. They really help when you come on to the pitch and make decisions.

"That’s what gave us the three points: his decisions. He played the pass to me to score, and then the free-kick [for United's second on 77 minutes] was another assist for him.

"We needed the three points and we deserve them. Stoke threw everything they had at us and it was a difficult game, but in the end we deserved to win because we attacked them. We wanted to score and we eventually did."

Berbatov's strike was only his second this season and third in his last 22 United apperances. Before the match he'd been subject to scrutiny for a strike-rate some perceive to be sub-standard for a centre-forward. But he insists his goal on Saturday carried no special significance.

"What can I tell you? The most important thing about me scoring is that it put us 1-0 up. Whoever scores it puts us top of the table and keeps us winning. That's what really matters."

The victory took United ahead of Chelsea on goal difference. The Reds meet Sunderland next, at Old Trafford on Saturday 3 October.


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Reds don't fall for intimidation

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The Britannia Stadium is one of the Premier League's more hostile and intimidating venues – even for commentators.

As ever, myself and Paddy Crerand covered the game for MUTV on Saturday. Quite often, we are tucked away on a gantry or in a booth somewhere. But at Stoke, the commentary box is very close to the home fans. In fact they were in the row directly in front of us. To say the least, they were passionate!

Every time even a slightly contentious decision went United's way, one fan with an alarmingly intense stare would turn round to face me and Paddy and gave us a bit of an earful.

This man clearly didn’t realise that Paddy is a man who relishes an argument. More than once in the game, off came Paddy’s headphones, he put down the microphone and engaged in a, shall we call it, debate with the fan.

Indeed, MUTV viewers with pin-sharp hearing might have been able to pick up bits of this discussion in the background of my commentary. It was basically good-natured banter, but also more than a little off-putting.

By the end of the game all of the Stoke fans had quietened down, though. All you could hear was the United fans going through their full repertoire of witty songs - “It’s just like watching Port Vale” and “Where’s your famous atmosphere?” getting an airing.

Stoke looked incredibly limited. Tactics of “get nine outfield players behind the ball and pump it up to Kitson to see what he can do” deserved nothing and that’s what they got.

After last weekend’s defensive problems, United were back in rock solid mode again – Foster caught everything and Vidic and Ferdinand headed all the bombs that Stoke launched away.

In last week’s blog, I lavished praise on Ryan Giggs. I’ve got no option but to do that again today.

The Reds totally dominated the game on Saturday but just couldn't make it count until Giggs replaced Nani. A cool head and his intelligent use of the ball was what was required to unlock the door.

First he played in Berbatov for a tap-in, after Darren Fletcher's defence-splitting pass, then found the head of John O’Shea with a pin-point free kick. Job done. He could have scored himself if he’d converted Scholes’ wonderful pass.

Scholes had been the best player on the pitch by a country mile, a point graciously accepted by Tony Pulis.

Giggs and Scholes, still doing the business. Legends. What on earth will we do when they retire? That’s a debate for another day.


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Hahaha...Ferdinand is worshipping King Giggsy
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That's not Rio I think. You can see Rio's head just beside/infront of Berba.

Looking back the video itself, looks like its Evra who got "sandwiched" between the players! laugh.gif

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That's not Rio I think. You can see Rio's head just beside/infront of Berba.

Looking back the video itself, looks like its Evra who got "sandwiched" between the players!  laugh.gif
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i think its oshea

opss.. looks like evra

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isnt the goal keeper man utd chasing manuel neuer?
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dont need keeper la, 80 million use to buy Messi
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according to RUMOURS...we are chasing ALL BEST KEEPRES... at least 6-8 on the list...LOLZ.....
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according to RUMOURS...we are chasing ALL BEST KEEPRES... at least 6-8 on the list...LOLZ.....
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yea. i just came back from carrington. saf said i too young for a quality keeper like me to play for manutd, later m'sia ban manutd for poaching me ler. sweat.gif sweat.gif
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dont buy africans. although they are dirt cheap, but in the middle of season, they got this african nation cup. clubs get into trouble if most of their important players are africans.

for example.... arsenal?

chelsea for sure gonna lose drogba. without him although got anelka, wont be the same. man city no worry, they got 9 stikers. sadly no one will be playing. due to injuries.

on buying goalies, i believe currently we no need to buy any. goalie got longer life span compared to lets say a defender. i am not saying that because we got van der sar, but younger ones arent any better, apart from cassilas at madrid or cech at chelsea.

that neuer prat. hes german for god sake. germans are ugly. (read: kahn and that prat used to play for arsenal. lehmann)
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QUOTE(alien2003 @ Sep 28 2009, 04:15 PM)
Its the decision making that makes most of us tearing our hairs out  sweat.gif  rclxub.gif  icon_question.gif

We all know he has the skills & ability but just to know when to do what. I remember the commentator did said there was a time when Rooney was anticipating an early cross from him but he end up dragging it too long and end up a goal kick for Stoke instead.
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similar with Ronaldo for the first 3 season, totally frustrating and keep on dribble until he lose the ball
it take times for a player to grow, take fletcher as example

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I don't think Messi will want to leave Barca. He is enjoying there...
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Barcelona offered treatment for his growth hormone deficiency, that was a good offer since Newell's Old Boys(his ex-club) could not foot the medical bill
i guess he want to repay the help of Barcelona for his disease, plus there is not much rumour about Messi leaving Barca as well

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dont buy africans. although they are dirt cheap, but in the middle of season, they got this african nation cup. clubs get into trouble if most of their important players are africans.

for example.... arsenal?

chelsea for sure gonna lose drogba. without him although got anelka, wont be the same. man city no worry, they got 9 stikers. sadly no one will be playing. due to injuries.

on buying goalies, i believe currently we no need to buy any. goalie got longer life span compared to lets say a defender. i am not saying that because we got van der sar, but younger ones arent any better, apart from cassilas at madrid or cech at chelsea.

that neuer prat. hes german for god sake. germans are ugly. (read: kahn and that prat used to play for arsenal. lehmann)
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Cech ever since he got that head injury, never really been the same. He's still good, but make mistakes here and there. There's just not many top class GK's around. You have Casillas, Buffon.. then the rest all about the same level. VDS, Cech, Reina.. a few others. Right now people seem to rate that Cesar at Inter as one of the best around. Then there's the upcoming Germans.. don't care how ugly they are if they're one of us. If we can tolerate Tevez before this, we can tolerate anyone. laugh.gif

Buying GK is never easy. Even Arsene seem to struggled with that position. We got very lucky someone as good as VDS who was very experienced was playing for a club like Fulham and was available. We won't get Casillas.. that Cesar and Buffon(he's only 31.. don't mind if we can get him) will cost A LOT. 30-40m easily in today's market. Not sure we're prepared to pay that amount for a GK. We could buy the up and coming GKs, but still it's no guarantee they're going to nail the position VDS currently held for us. Foster apart from the mistakes in the two games he had so far for us, seems to be a fairly solid GK. Mentally he's strong showed by how he bounced back after the bad games against Chelsea and City. That's always a sign of a good GK. He just need to keep on being solid and redeem himself in the big games should he play in them that would really cement his future as our #1, and maybe even take over from VDS this season.
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Artwork by sporting legends, including Sir Alex Ferguson, Theo Walcott, Thierry Henry, Joe Calzaghe and Shane Warne, created for a fundraising exhibition, are available for fans to buy.

The Art of Sport exhibition is being held at the Catto Gallery, Hampstead, London, until Sunday, in aid of the Willow Foundation, and the artworks featured can be bought either at the gallery or direct from the charity.

The Willow Foundation, set up by Arsenal legend Bob Wilson and his wife Megs, provides special, morale-boosting and memorable days for seriously ill people aged 16 to 40.

Its fundraising exhibition features unique "impact" artworks created by famous sportsmen using the tools of their trade, such as footballs, boxing gloves and even tyres, to apply paint to canvas.

Stars from the worlds of football, snooker, golf, cricket, motor cycling and boxing including Cesc Fabregas, Robin Van Persie, Theirry Henry, Dennis Bergkamp, Jens Lehmann, Ricky Hatton and Ronnie O'Sullivan have taken part, with each piece of art signed by its creator.

Willow Foundation ambassador and Arsenal striker, Theo Walcott, said: "I am proud to be an ambassador for The Willow Foundation.

"Having seen the work they do first hand in helping seriously ill young adults I was delighted to get involved with this art exhibition."

Bob Wilson, said: "The generous support and creativity of this great mix of sports personalities has produced a superb range of artwork, which ultimately helps the Willow Foundation to make a difference to the lives of people living with life threatening conditions at a time when they need it most.

"Sports fans will love impact art, so come along to the exhibition or take a look at the artwork online."

Originals and signed prints are available to buy, with all proceeds to the Willow Foundation. To view the artwork go to http://www.willowfoundation.org.uk/artofsport.

The exhibition at the Catto Gallery, 100 Heath Street, London, NW3 1DP, is open to the public from Friday to Sunday and entry is free.

To date the Willow Foundation has provided more than 5,000 special days for people living with cancer, cystic fibrosis, motor neurone disease and muscular dystrophy, among other conditions.

For further information visit www.willowfoundation.org.uk, telephone 01707 259777 or email louise.smithwillowfoundation.org.uk.


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mana2 pun owen carry that newspaper.. nak show off la tu.. haha
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u guys know owen got gambling problem right hahaha
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A lot player also got ler, the famous one are Lampard and Terry IIRC

too much money don't know where to spend
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woot... the true manchester win with tevez scoring 2 goals laugh.gif

i want casillas as our GK, really2 world class GK. long time admire him. he achieved everything with RM already rite?
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Giggs, Scholes, Gary Neville achieved everything at our club.. tongue.gif
There's no reason for him to leave anyway. Playing for a top team, playing in his home.. no reason for him to leave.
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woot... the true manchester win with tevez scoring 2 goals  laugh.gif

i want casillas as our GK, really2 world class GK. long time admire him. he achieved everything with RM already rite?
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he is not able ot hold his starting spot at Bayern not to mention at man utd... now bayern is using their second choice experience keeper = Hans Jorg Butt...

But keeper division still can left alone for a while. I think most important for future will be a winger.

Maybe an attacking midfielder??? Joao Moutinho - Sporting lisbon Captain???
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me think midfiedler packett already.
ando,fletcher,carrick,hargo,scholes,gibson. scholes mayb 1 or 2 season more.
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if winger i'll prefer A.Lennon from Tottenham or Ashley Yong from Vila...
Fast Runner Winger.

But i hear a lot of news from Chinese Forum.
Man Utd interetesed with DAVID SILVA from valencia ?
Its true ??
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QUOTE(bcts85 @ Sep 29 2009, 11:40 AM)
he is not able ot hold his starting spot at Bayern not to mention at man utd... now bayern is using their second choice experience keeper = Hans Jorg Butt...

But keeper division still can left alone for a while. I think most important for future will be a winger.

Maybe an attacking midfielder??? Joao Moutinho - Sporting lisbon Captain???
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I think we're done in the wingers department. That is until we're done with Nani. Could be the end of this season or the end of the next. Park, Valencia, Obertan, Ljajic.. we have plenty of options and potential to work with.
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that horse day thing, we all know sir alex got few horses running with man united colours. and owen also got a horse or two of his own.

and i guess they are socializing with him owen in a way he likes it. i cant imagine paulie putting a punt or two at horses. i tot hes a family man, isnt he? the one like getting home and spending quality time with kids n wife.

but yeah english are bet crazy. the difference among them is the size of the bets. or the size of the balls (to bet)
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QUOTE(Nic87_Lowyat @ Sep 29 2009, 11:58 AM)
if winger i'll prefer A.Lennon from Tottenham or Ashley Yong from Vila...
Fast Runner Winger.

But i hear a lot of news from Chinese Forum.
Man Utd interetesed with DAVID SILVA from valencia ?
Its true ??
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We were interested 2-3 years back I think. Not sure now. He's not a winger anyway.. more like a roaming AM.
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well, i mean we cna have a lot of prospect in our midfield but seriously do we really have a world class midfielder beside Scholes?

Fletcher is up-coming and is the one that have the highest credentials but the rest did not show that as promising and can guarantee a world class prospects.

Mostly u can know that all of our youngster or player usually will be discarded to the other team well below the age of 25 - richardson, greening, bramble, pugh, campbell, eagles, and others that always loks like a prospect but end not even able to wear the reds shirts as promising as they should be
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I think we're done in the wingers department. That is until we're done with Nani. Could be the end of this season or the end of the next. Park, Valencia, Obertan, Ljajic.. we have plenty of options and potential to work with.
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agree ... we do have a lot of winger already ...
so we think we have to more focus on keeper side right ??
I think keeper is the most weak in united. ( IF van der sar retire this year. )

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woot... the true manchester win with tevez scoring 2 goals  laugh.gif

i want casillas as our GK, really2 world class GK. long time admire him. he achieved everything with RM already rite?
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Yes.. so, no point he will be going anywhere..

My keeper list :

Buffon
Julio Cesar
That CELTIC GK.. forgot his name.. haha
Toldo (where is he huh)
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Yes.. so, no point he will be going anywhere..

My keeper list :

Buffon
Julio Cesar
That CELTIC GK.. forgot his name.. haha
Toldo (where is he huh)
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i use buffon in my championship manager, 12 game straight non-conceded a single goal brows.gif
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I think we're done in the wingers department. That is until we're done with Nani. Could be the end of this season or the end of the next. Park, Valencia, Obertan, Ljajic.. we have plenty of options and potential to work with.
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nani is pretty.......useless? dont get me wrong. he arrived pretty much the same time of ronaldo. yet, he is now nowhere half as good as ronaldo was. infact i am thinking about him getting backward at times.

i've seen him playing few times this season and i must say i am a bit disheartened by his performance. very different with anderson, although his performance so far quite fluctuating (sometime good - champions league vs arsenal, league vs spurs, sometime bad - league vs burnley although all of the team play under par in that game).

i've said times n times again about valencia. hes very raw and at times i felt the price was ridicolous. 2 games i've watch him this season, both time he sort of clueless. his speed is blistering, but his touches/ ideas/ visions are as good as dead. but hes very raw and i bet the coaching staffs will try to open him abit. we may compare him with ronaldo the new boy few seasons back but then he got flashy stuffs and if not mistaken he got plenty of goals to show for.

those lajij, obertain need some games and adjustments to english game. i believe they wont feature much in this season's plan.

one question wanna ask - are we turning into selling club? not the selling club without the winning mentality. is it possible to make profits upon selling players and at the same time win some silverware? not selling the biggest players tho.
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well, i mean we cna have a lot of prospect in our midfield but seriously do we really have a world class midfielder beside Scholes?

Fletcher is up-coming and is the one that have the highest credentials but the rest did not show that as promising and can guarantee a world class prospects.

Mostly u can know that all of our youngster or player usually will be discarded to the other team well below the age of 25 - richardson, greening, bramble, pugh, campbell, eagles, and others that always loks like a prospect but end not even able to wear the reds shirts as promising as they should be
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Sure we don't really have world class players there, but like I always say, this is the same group of players that win so many stuff over the last 3-4 seasons. They are obviously more than just decent player carried by the others. Fletcher have grown into one of our most important players.. Anderson and Nani have both showed that they have done much more in the first team than Fletcher had in the past at the same age. So they both have massive potential. We don't really have a problem in our CM IMO. Just waiting for Anderson to take a few more step forward and become an important player for us there.

As for the wing part, if Ribery was available at a price we were comfortable to pay, we would have gotten him already. Apart from him, there's no one else out there who we could get and would say improve on the ones we currently have. Valencia is still settling. Nani just needed to mature. Obertan and Ljajic have potential.. do remember where the likes of Giggsy, Ronaldo, Beckham came through.

Forget about AMs... we won't ever make use of them consistently. We don't play with a midfield 3 that often to make use of them. We usually play a midfield of 4 with two wingers and two CMs who must be able to defend properly. And AMs generally don't do well when they have to defend. Riquelme, Aimar etc.. they all play further forward.
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Why suddenly Carrick not SAF favourite anymore ?
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nani is pretty.......useless? dont get me wrong. he arrived pretty much the same time of ronaldo. yet, he is now nowhere half as good as ronaldo was. infact i am thinking about him getting backward at times.

i've seen him playing few times this season and i must say i am a bit disheartened by his performance. very different with anderson, although his performance so far quite fluctuating (sometime good - champions league vs arsenal, league vs spurs, sometime bad - league vs burnley although all of the team play under par in that game).

i've said times n times again about valencia. hes very raw and at times i felt the price was ridicolous. 2 games i've watch him this season, both time he sort of clueless. his speed is blistering, but his touches/ ideas/ visions are as good as dead. but hes very raw and i bet the coaching staffs will try to open him abit. we may compare him with ronaldo the new boy few seasons back but then he got flashy stuffs and if not mistaken he got plenty of goals to show for.

those lajij, obertain need some games and adjustments to english game. i believe they wont feature much in this season's plan.

one question wanna ask - are we turning into selling club? not the selling club without the winning mentality. is it possible to make profits upon selling players and at the same time win some silverware? not selling the biggest players tho.
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He's not useless. He's just having consistency issues. He started the season well, then the international break came and we rotated the wings, and now he's back to square one. He just needs time to sort it all out. Fletch did. I'm not saying Nani will, but at least give him the chance to prove it.

As for Valencia, why not judge him mid/end season? Evra and Vida hardly set the world alight in their first 6 months. Since then they've been our first choice.

Ljajic won't, but Obertan will. As for how many games he will feature, god knows. But SAF seems to think he will play a part with his versatility and obvious potential. People will love him in no time once he steps on to the pitch and dribble past a few players each game, even if he doesn't have an end product to show for.

Every club does the selling bit. But we're just selling only if we have to(Rossi, Pique, contract expiring in a year, and Ronaldo.. wanted to leave and nobody could reject that amount I suppose), or those youngsters that don't quite make it. We're keeping everyone we want to keep and the good ones. I'm very happy with the transfer in and out ever since we got Saha. After that almost every signing have been great.
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QUOTE(ReAcTiVo @ Sep 29 2009, 12:16 PM)
Arthur Boruc?

i use buffon in my championship manager, 12 game straight non-conceded a single goal  brows.gif
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For Goal Keeper ( I prefer ) -

* Michael Rensing ( Bayern Munich ) Talent Keeper ... icon_idea.gif icon_idea.gif
* Peter Cech ( Chelsea ) Imposible for him to came over united shakehead.gif
* Casillas ( RM ) same opinion with CECH, imposible ... sweat.gif

Man Utd Keeper -

* Van der Sar - Retire Soon cry.gif cry.gif
* Ben Foster - We have to believe why SAF always give chance to him, but still need some times to become world class keeper. shocking.gif
* Tomasz Kuszcazk - Still waiting chance ... ( Really Don't Knw when ... ) World Class Keeper for him, who know ?? hmm.gif


Added on September 29, 2009, 12:52 pmWe no need to worry our midfielder and defender ...
They do have some very good performance ..
and we Have Jackson 5 also in united...
Nani, Valencia, Erva, Anderson and Welback.

Hahaz !!

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QUOTE(Wan @ Sep 29 2009, 12:27 PM)
He's not useless. He's just having consistency issues. He started the season well, then the international break came and we rotated the wings, and now he's back to square one. He just needs time to sort it all out. Fletch did. I'm not saying Nani will, but at least give him the chance to prove it.

As for Valencia, why not judge him mid/end season? Evra and Vida hardly set the world alight in their first 6 months. Since then they've been our first choice.

Ljajic won't, but Obertan will. As for how many games he will feature, god knows. But SAF seems to think he will play a part with his versatility and obvious potential. People will love him in no time once he steps on to the pitch and dribble past a few players each game, even if he doesn't have an end product to show for.

Every club does the selling bit. But we're just selling only if we have to(Rossi, Pique, contract expiring in a year, and Ronaldo.. wanted to leave and nobody could reject that amount I suppose), or those youngsters that don't quite make it. We're keeping everyone we want to keep and the good ones. I'm very happy with the transfer in and out ever since we got Saha. After that almost every signing have been great.
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even i can tell u now, what valencia's MO on the right flank. got the ball, he'll try to get to ball further to his right leg. he'll speed up and will try to cross on that.

no side steps, no taking on defenders, turning left / right to out-turn the defender. nothing. i thought he played at wigan a season or two hasnt he? but yeap, i'll reserve my judgement till january 2010.further than that, we must find solution on that right flank. cant give him full season tho we are abit tight on flanks. middle yes got plenty of bodies.

i remember evra got tortured in his first game vs man city but after that i saw the promise he brought in every game he played. vida was feature in phases and transition done well. but nani? hes been here for years now.

ps- i read one book about questioning fan's loyalty to teams, particularly fans who follow the team from afar, i.e us. the book said something about the craap things we said to players if they do mistakes. and the fact is that the team never been owned by the fans, but the fans felt they owned the club. its a good read tho, and i am particularly offended by what i read. one minute we loath on ronaldo, lost the ball while doing sidesteppings, and we were cursing him off limit. the next minute he got back the ball, the same side steps then bang! goal. we forgot the curse we said and start worshipping him. thats how quick our judgement are. flashing quick. good read tho. i found it at borders penang.
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To be frank, our squad did look quite large in number... 30+ players
Of course many of them are youngster and in reserve squad, but not hoping to see them being offload.
Sometimes a departure of players can affect the team performance.

Hope the big squad we're having got the quality to bring us glory this year and many years to come flex.gif
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great GK always come more from experience than talent.
back to back games and playing important match with lots of crowd really help making a great goalkeeper. shoot,try from opposition also help a lot making a GK to be better.

theres only few great world class GK like buffon,casillas,cech..
but there still many really good and experience GK out there. in EPL itself i really think GK like given(ex-newcastle), green(eng no.1?),howard(been better with more match), friedel(very experience), reina(fast reflexes), cudicini(better than gomes), schwarzer(really good last season).

can see the talent in foster but he really need lots of match to be a good GK. hope he still get some match mostly in league cup,fa cup and some epl,CL when VDS came from injury. or maybe united should get someone more experience to backup VDS on january and loan foster somewhere where he can get more matches and make more saves hmm.gif


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QUOTE(SBHakaRyuzaki @ Sep 29 2009, 12:24 PM)
Why suddenly Carrick not SAF favourite anymore ?
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So far as I can tell, Carrick has been pretty much a passenger in the team when he's playing. Nothing but safe side and back-passes. Forward passes tended to be over/under-hit. So it's not surprising he's been dropped. Especially with the way Scholesy, Fletcherinho and Anderson-son-son has been playing.

Mind you, he started last season in the same vein as well, but grew in importance as the season wore on. Still has the annoying tendency to go invisible when it matters most, though (e.g. CL Final vs Barcelona).


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QUOTE(mokhzaini @ Sep 29 2009, 01:10 PM)
even i can tell u now, what valencia's MO on the right flank. got the ball, he'll try to get to ball further to his right leg. he'll speed up and will try to cross on that.

no side steps, no taking on defenders, turning left / right to out-turn the defender. nothing. i thought he played at wigan a season or two hasnt he? but yeap, i'll reserve my judgement till january 2010.further than that, we must find solution on that right flank. cant give him full season tho we are abit tight on flanks. middle yes got plenty of bodies.

i remember evra got tortured in his first game vs man city but after that i saw the promise he brought in every game he played. vida was feature in phases and transition done well. but nani? hes been here for years now.

ps- i read one book about questioning fan's loyalty to teams, particularly fans who follow the team from afar, i.e us. the book said something about the craap things we said to players if they do mistakes. and the fact is that the team never been owned by the fans, but the fans felt they owned the club. its a good read tho, and i am particularly offended by what i read. one minute we loath on ronaldo, lost the ball while doing sidesteppings, and we were cursing him off limit. the next minute he got back the ball, the same side steps then bang! goal. we forgot the curse we said and start worshipping him. thats how quick our judgement are. flashing quick. good read tho. i found it at borders penang.
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If he's effective, who cares how predictable he is. Right now he's still finding his feet and still haven't figure it out properly how to play things our way. I know he played with Wigan, but they're not ManUtd. We play things differently, not to mention most teams we play would defend most of the time with almost no space at all to exploit. He will improve by playing more games with us. I'm not sure why there's this mentality of expecting stuff to magically work in one season. Ronaldo took effectively 2-3 seasons to get to where he was. Fletcher took 5-6 seasons since he broke through to become a regular for us. We can wait two seasons at least for a new player to make his mark for us.

Evra showed promise.. yeah, bit like Valencia and Nani is showing/has shown. Evra came here when he was 25. He was the finished article. The only thing he needed to improve was his familiarity with the team, and tweak his game a bit to suit the hust and bustle of EPL, not to mention the way we play. Nani came here when he was 21 and he was one with the highest number of assists for our team in his first season. He wouldn't be able to achieve that if he was useless. When he was 22 he was going through that 2nd season syndrome and he struggled to find form when we preferred Park on the wings most time. Now 23.. only his third season here, he started the season well, but last 2-3 games he starts to play that clueless game again. But let's give him till the end of the season to fix things. But as Fletcher showed, it's when they're 24-26 they became consistent and playing with confidence and able to be a regular for a top team. Only those special players would be able to break through and stay there in the team since they're young. We can't expect every player to be special.

It's normal being a football fan. We watch game and we look Nani misplace another pass, Ben Foster make yet another mistake, we would curse them straight away at that time. Yet when they do something brilliant, get a goal, make a fantastic pass that lead to a goal, make a fantastic save, we would cheer. But looking at Fletcher's progress, and even I learned that just recently is that we should give young players(under 24/25) time to prove their worth in the first team. If it's like Miller/Djemba2 who was disappointing most of the time, then yes we should maybe move them on, but Nani has showed in a single season that he can provide goal scoring chances for us.. he has promise, just right now struggling with his consistency. I'm not saying we should criticize if they have a bad game, we do that for most players. That's normal. But don't write off their chances in the team so soon.

Like I maintained throughout, we are a bit spoilt having child prodigy in Rooney and Ronaldo at the club in their teenage years. Having seen them in the first team since forever, we expect every single player to have the same impact almost in the first team and be consistent as they were all the time. But as we know with young players, they're bloody inconsistent. Great one game, fecking terrible the next. Fletcher was like that.. and Nani is going through similar phase. Nani really need to improve though. Whatever he does, at least create a couple of chances.. right now he's going through some spiral blind tunnels with nothing to show for.. he should just whipped them crosses in a few times at least. He doesn't do that although he's well capable. He prefers to play with one defender over and over till he pass the ball back to someone if he doesn't lose it.

Then there's the no old man brigade. They would want those players that's in their thirties to be shipped off straight away and get new players as replacement. Hopefully the likes of VDS, Giggs, Scholes, Gary and soon Rio will show that when they're old, doesn't mean they would turn bad and can't run anymore overnight.

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Everyone was missing in that Barca game though. Ando was useless, Giggs can't do anything, and Carrick obviously can't hold that midfield on his own. IMO, in a 433 game, he's important for us. Stick him next to Fletcher and someone else, you would see our midfield work. Before his form dipped and Fletcher grew into the player he is today last year, I thought he was the important piece in the middle. Even though he's not as good as Scholes was/is, but his role in the team is of far more importance. Right now on a bad run of form.. but he will get that form back. November-December he should be back to his normal self.. unless Fletcher, Scholes and Ando keep him out of the team beyond that, but he should still get games.

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Wah, Wan... such a long post. Lunch break, ka?

I'm all for giving Nani a decent run. However, he must realise he needs to buck up soon and show us that talented side of him that we all know he has, somewhere deep inside that Michael Jackson suit.

QUOTE(Wan @ Sep 29 2009, 02:44 PM)
Everyone was missing in that Barca game though. Ando was useless, Giggs can't do anything, and Carrick obviously can't hold that midfield on his own. IMO, in a 433 game, he's important for us. Stick him next to Fletcher and someone else, you would see our midfield work. Before his form dipped and Fletcher grew into the player he is today last year, I thought he was the important piece in the middle. Even though he's not as good as Scholes was/is, but his role in the team is of far more importance. Right now on a bad run of form.. but he will get that form back. November-December he should be back to his normal self.. unless Fletcher, Scholes and Ando keep him out of the team beyond that, but he should still get games.
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I have free time last 2-3 months. Won't be free soon.

That, and/or a certain hairy English-Canadian.. laugh.gif Thank god he's back soon. If Fletcher is out, we can rely on him. CL 433.. midfield will fix itself as long as Fletcher is there and his partners do their job, but those supporting Rooney will have to do better than they have so far shown. We can't leave him so isolated upfront..
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QUOTE(Wan @ Sep 29 2009, 03:07 PM)
I have free time last 2-3 months. Won't be free soon.

That, and/or a certain hairy English-Canadian.. laugh.gif Thank god he's back soon. If Fletcher is out, we can rely on him. CL 433.. midfield will fix itself as long as Fletcher is there and his partners do their job, but those supporting Rooney will have to do better than they have so far shown. We can't leave him so isolated upfront..
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That Julio Cesar does look fantastic from youtube clips. Strong hands there. He's 30.. got his chance at Inter when he was 26(same age as Foster is now).. hardly heard of his name except last few years. I'm almost hoping VDS will be out a bit longer or won't straightaway get into the team just to see how Foster handle being a Utd GK for a few more months. If he doesn't do anymore mistakes in the next 3 games till VDS get's back, we should keep him there till mid season and see how things goes. We can use VDS in the 2nd part of the season where the games will be of higher importance and give Foster runs out in the cup games, and a few league games. Even if VDS decides to stay in goal next season for us, we should just give that experience to Foster if we can afford it.. I just can't see us getting in another GK that would guarantee success there in goal unless we spunk over 30m for one. That Barca GK.. Casillas.. they all broke through since they were young.. if they can have that chances, we can give it to Foster too to see how he develops.
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here the boys' record:

2009/2010

2 Goals
2 Assists

2008/2009 (Less than 10 league starts)

6 Goals
4 Assists

2007/2008

4 Goals
14 Assist

we all know last game, fergie had enough and turned to giggsy. we all can sense on that. a poor player is a poor player, you'll get the very occasional brilliance of him, but the rest of it, he's either halfly turn or doesnt turn at all. like keep losing simple passes and stuffs like that

i know u've always defend nani and thats very admirable. unless he improves dramatically, i pretty sure he'll out at the end of this season, flogged to some team for 5-10 mils.

slating my own team's player is not so okay but i think its justified by seeing the bigger picture.
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Did you say the same thing about Fletcher? He was poor for a few years. He was just the extra leg in midfield to cover Keane and Scholes. He showed nothing more. Then he gradually improved and became a regular in midfield for us. The same could happen for Nani. And why not. He's only 23.

2 goals, 2 assists so far. Good start to the season if we compared that number to last season. I understand your frustrations.. he really need to turn it on soon if not he'll be off. But like I always said, those under 24/25 are inconsistent and don't really play with the confidence needed to stamp their mark on games. Seems SAF is happy enough to still play him in games. Before Giggsy started to deliver again on the wings last few weeks, I would say our season depended a lot on him to deliver.. that's still the case as we can't expect Giggsy to turn it on every time and play all the time. So Nani does have to step up.. but we may have to play the waiting game on him for another season looking at things. But he'll do better this season compared to last. We can afford to play two attacking wingers this time round rather than have someone to look after the defensive side of things on the other side of Ronaldo.
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QUOTE(Wan @ Sep 29 2009, 03:16 PM)
That Julio Cesar does look fantastic from youtube clips. Strong hands there. He's 30.. got his chance at Inter when he was 26(same age as Foster is now).. hardly heard of his name except last few years. I'm almost hoping VDS will be out a bit longer or won't straightaway get into the team just to see how Foster handle being a Utd GK for a few more months. If he doesn't do anymore mistakes in the next 3 games till VDS get's back, we should keep him there till mid season and see how things goes. We can use VDS in the 2nd part of the season where the games will be of higher importance and give Foster runs out in the cup games, and a few league games. Even if VDS decides to stay in goal next season for us, we should just give that experience to Foster if we can afford it.. I just can't see us getting in another GK that would guarantee success there in goal unless we spunk over 30m for one. That Barca GK.. Casillas.. they all broke through since they were young.. if they  can have that chances, we can give it to Foster too to see how he develops.
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I can understand it if the club is actually start looking for another GK. First of all, VDS will only decide in December if he stay on another year. The is a possibility that he might hang up his gloves after this season. Another thing is that how well Kuszczak is taking it after Foster pipped him in the pecking order? Will he be looking to move as well?

We could easily end up with Foster as our only senior GK after that and I don't see either Zieler/Amos make the big step up required yet.

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QUOTE(mokhzaini @ Sep 29 2009, 03:16 PM)
here the boys' record:

2009/2010

2 Goals
2 Assists

2008/2009 (Less than 10 league starts)

6 Goals
4 Assists

2007/2008

4 Goals
14 Assist

we all know last game, fergie had enough and turned to giggsy. we all can sense on that. a poor player is a poor player, you'll get the very occasional brilliance of him, but the rest of it, he's either halfly turn  or doesnt turn at all. like keep losing simple passes and stuffs like that

i know u've always defend nani and thats very admirable. unless he improves dramatically, i pretty sure he'll out at the end of this season, flogged to some team for 5-10 mils.

slating my own team's player is not so okay but i think its justified by seeing the bigger picture.
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You forget about Fletcher, dude. He was nowhere where he is now few years back....and now look at him. He is the important man in the middle. Some players developed their games very fast at the very young age (eg. Ronaldo, Messi) but some only become good when they are towards late of their young age (eg. Fletcher), and some good at young age, flop when they reached 26 to 30. So different players have different kind of attributes. You don't expect everyone to fully developed as a class player at the age of 21, 22 or 23.

Nani is not the next Ronaldo or the next Luiz Figo, he is just him. Yes, you can see a lot of similarity between Ronaldo and Nani but the way of playing from both of them are different.

Just give him play few games in a row, don't rotate him too much and he will warm himself up for that. Certain players are late warm type of players...they just need more games to show their consistency

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It won't be too much trouble to look for another GK to act as backup. Can get an up and coming one at a lower league or someone experience like Ricardo etc. I wonder if we can persuade VDS to stay another season to see things through with Foster.. that would definitely be one I would want right now. Foster taking over permanently next season with VDS as that safety net.

Only IF Foster pass the test given to him this season that is..

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i thought CL's match is tonite.. oh well.. continue watching House then
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It won't be too much trouble to look for another GK to act as backup. Can get an up and coming one at a lower league or someone experience like Ricardo etc. I wonder if we can persuade VDS to stay another season to see things through with Foster.. that would definitely be one I would want right now. Foster taking over permanently next season with VDS as that safety net.

Only IF Foster pass the test given to him this season that is..
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use vDS as back up, mainly use Foster... IF he start to F555 up, look for another keeper... for time being i see our gk post save with kuschack, foster and vds
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fletcher? yes i am not forgetting him. infact, i remember luke chadwick, chris eagles, and to say the least, djemba djemba and kleberson. if we go along with most people here, i am pretty sure djemba-djemba and kleberson still with us.

but they are not, thank god we are not following some people's logic here. for the record, djemba-djemba arrived 2003 and flogged to villa 2005. thats what ... 2 years? more of less the same story with kleberson. i dont know what the reason we flog them too quickly, but whatever the reason is, i am pretty sure SAF know both were not cut out for man united.

as for fletcher, he graduated from a 'normal' player to an important first team player beginning 2005-2006. my term on 'normal player' is the one that made to the bench and may be thrown into active at the 80th minute of 90th minute, and not expecting to do much different. now aged 25(?), hes an important player after .... 6 years but as i said earlier, his game picked up season 2005-2006.

he added steel to his game and bang for the last 2 seasons, he been one of the best players. and if we are to compare him and nani, which for me isnt comparable at all because of the positions and values, we can see that nani struggled as the number of years playing increases. for example, arriving here, nani got like 14 assist? 4 goals? the next year, he got like less than 10 assists? but more goals? but he appears in less game as the year before. as for fletcher, he's very consistent through out seasons after 2005.

i am prepared to wait for him to turn, that nani, but not i am to wait till end of season. if not, then its better for us to get on.
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ape2 la bradah~ buih mulut ko bertekak, SAF tau le ape die buat hehehe
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QUOTE(avars @ Sep 29 2009, 04:36 PM)
ape2 la bradah~ buih mulut ko bertekak, SAF tau le ape die buat hehehe
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no doubt, man utd will win.
we r in good form right now., nobody can stop us.

show me some SPIRIT..!
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QUOTE(mokhzaini @ Sep 29 2009, 04:15 PM)
fletcher? yes i am not forgetting him. infact, i remember luke chadwick, chris eagles, and to say the least, djemba djemba and kleberson. if we go along with most people here, i am pretty sure djemba-djemba and kleberson still with us.

but they are not, thank god we are not following some people's logic here. for the record, djemba-djemba arrived 2003 and flogged to villa 2005. thats what ... 2 years? more of less the same story with kleberson. i dont know what the reason we flog them too quickly, but whatever the reason is, i am pretty sure SAF know both were not cut out for man united.

as for fletcher, he graduated from a 'normal' player to an important first team player beginning 2005-2006. my term on 'normal player' is the one that made to the bench and may be thrown into active at the 80th minute of 90th minute, and not expecting to do much different. now aged 25(?), hes an important player after .... 6 years but as i said earlier, his game picked up season 2005-2006.

he added steel to his game and bang for the last 2 seasons, he been one of the best players. and if we are to compare him and nani, which for me isnt comparable at all because of the positions and values, we can see that nani struggled as the number of years playing increases. for example, arriving here, nani got like 14 assist? 4 goals? the next year, he got like less than 10 assists? but more goals? but he appears in less game as the year before. as for fletcher, he's very consistent through out seasons after 2005.

i am prepared to wait for him to turn, that nani, but not i am to wait till end of season. if not, then its better for us to get on.
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He was more than just a bench player. Those days we played with 3 in the middle if you remember. He was always part of that. Fletcher showed in the big games that he can really play, but come the normal games he disappeared for some weird reason. That's when people say he's a bit limited I guess. That continued even into 06/07.. but that season he played a lot better as a whole and doesn't always look limited in the games he had. But still he didn't dominate the way he is now. It was only last season things started to work for him in every game. And in 05/06, he lost his place when Keano retired, Scholes got injured with that eye injury to O'Shea-Giggs combo in midfield.

Oh come on. You think we're blind. I'm not saying we should give every single player games or keep them when it was obvious they're consistently shit.. and looking at their current ability+potential, their performances in the team, their contribution.. if they're not up to mark, I won't say no to moving them on. It depends on the quality. Some players you know straight away won't provide much other than just another body to choose from. Evans always had quality. Fletcher.. well, he was highly regarded as a kid. Chadwick showed nothing much other than a few trick to beat his man. Eagles and Richardson both showed they are average on the wings. Can't beat their man, can't provide any decent balls into the box.. never once did they really impress for us. Djemba2(left when he was 24) obviously failed here. Kleberson(24-26) struggled with injuries and didn't adapt to the league. Both of them showed nothing of the sort of performance Nani did in his first season here. They both had just around 15 starts for us both season, and never really impress except for a few games. Everyone of those had their chances for a few seasons before we flogged them off.

I would understand totally where you come from if Nani indeed have been inconsistent from the very start. But from the tone of your post, it's obvious you're just looking at the recent season that just past rather than his whole career here. Nani showed in his first season he can be very good for us from the wings. He doesn't quite manage to play that way last season, but still showed in some games that he has the ability to trouble and create chances for us. This season has been a mixed bag for him. He started the season well, then he sort off had a bad few games. But as always the talent is there. Now he just need to make use of it better which would come with age. Hopefully he does it this season. His spot should be save unless we can prise away Ribery/Messi. Can't see anyone else I want for that winger spot other than those two, and Ronaldo of course.
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that stats are all out and we've got our verdicts and opinions out as well.

so how we can draw the line now?

should we give nani another season? or should we give him ultimatum on this season?

the problem is, the thin line of giving a player's some time to adjust and play. ronaldo took 1 year to impress and another year to establish. and another year to ultimately conquer to scene.

nani on the other hand, 1 year to....... ? another year to VANISH. fletcher is always there since 2005/2006, when he picked up his game so much.ruud van nistelrooy took no time at all to hit it big time.

yes we cant decide on that but we are not living it forever and the pressures are always mounting. we need to draw a line eventually. and giggsy, sooner or later will hang his boot up.
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but 1 thing that worriying me.....most of england keeper always show promising stat in their early of their career but flop in their latter stage...look at kirkland, robinson, carson...

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that stats are all out and we've got our verdicts and opinions out as well.

so how we can draw the line now?

should we give nani another season? or should we give him ultimatum on this season?

the problem is, the thin line of giving a player's some time to adjust and play. ronaldo took 1 year to impress and another year to establish. and another year to ultimately conquer to scene.

nani on the other hand, 1 year to....... ? another year to VANISH. fletcher is always there since 2005/2006, when he picked up his game so much.ruud van nistelrooy took no time at all to hit it big time.

yes we cant decide on that but we are not living it forever and the pressures are always mounting. we need to draw a line eventually. and giggsy, sooner or later will hang his boot up.
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Ronaldo had 4 seasons before he conquered everything. Started from 03/04 till 06/07 when he just became the best player around. And before that there were even doubts from our own fans whether he would be consistent enough to be a top winger for us. But ihs talent and potential was there for all to see. He was younger too that time compared to Nani, but again we can't compare everyone to those special ones. Everyone else would look quite average. Ruud joined us after he turn to 25. Two years older than Nani is right now. You're basically written him off even from last season if I remembered it correctly unless I mistaken it for someone else.

Of course Giggsy won't last that much longer. That's why we have the likes of Park and Valencia around to be that experience guys should anything go wrong in the short term. Nani will soon step up you feel.. and then there's Obertan and Ljajic.

Just a question, who would you get to play on the wings for us? Messi and Ribery seems to be out of our reach. Ronaldo is at 'his home'. Like the GKs, there's just a lack of quality out there atm..
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Just a question, who would you get to play on the wings for us? Messi and Ribery seems to be out of our reach. Ronaldo is at 'his home'. Like the GKs, there's just a lack of quality out there atm..
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the wings? have to select any of those we have currently or basically anyone in the world?

i'd like to see park feature alot more. i feel that the way football is being played nowadays, it seems the traditional flankers are no longer effective. particularly in europe. us vs arsenal last season CL summed up everything that is going on in football now.

one touch football, lightning counterattacks, penetrative players. park is one of the creative players we have.

if i've got to choose anybody out there available (realistically) to us both financially and mentally, i would love to see.... wait a minute. no one i cant think of now.

on nani, i have to respect fellow reds here. so i'll stop slating him for everyone;s good. and for now. after all if compared to anybody outside united, hes not that bad to be honest. but the standard we set is bloody high and with commitments in all cups we are focusing, everybody must be at their toes and perform, which nani has failed to do these few games into the new season. and last season.

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Nemanja Vidic is still trying to ignore talk about the impact of losing both Cristiano Ronaldo and Carlos Tevez in the summer, determined that Manchester United's success this season will not be based on how the club deals with their departures.

The Serbia international, speaking ahead of Manchester United's Champions League date with Wolfsburg on Wednesday night, feels that the club's critics are desperate for United to fail this season so they can point the finger of blame at Sir Alex Ferguson for not adequately replacing the duo.

"Ronaldo and Tevez are quality players, there is no question about that,'' Vidic said. "But it is hard to say whether we have got over losing them. We will probably only know that at the end of the season.

"If we don't win trophies, people will say it is because they have gone, although that is not necessarily the case. At the moment we are doing well. We have had the best start in the four years I have been here. There is no question we have quality players but, for me, the really encouraging sign is that we are still not in the best form.

"You don't want to be at your highest level at this stage. We have to be ready for the most important games at the end.''

Vidic was also quick to praise striker Wayne Rooney, but believes his value to the side has long been overlooked with Ronaldo in the squad.

"It is wrong that people are suddenly looking at Wayne,'' he said. "He has always been an important player for us so, in that sense, nothing has changed. Sometimes he does things the fans don't see because he is doing a job for the team.

"This year he is even more noticeable because he is scoring goals and has a different role in the team. But we don't need to put pressure on him. We know all about his ability.''


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QUOTE(mokhzaini @ Sep 29 2009, 07:04 PM)
the wings? have to select any of those we have currently or basically anyone in the world?

i'd like to see park feature alot more. i feel that the way football is being played nowadays, it seems the traditional flankers are no longer effective. particularly in europe. us vs arsenal last season CL summed up everything that is going on in football now.

one touch football, lightning counterattacks, penetrative players. park is one of the creative players we have.

if i've got to choose anybody out there available (realistically) to us both financially and mentally, i would love to see.... wait a minute. no one i cant think of now.

on nani, i have to respect fellow reds here. so i'll stop slating him for everyone;s good. and for now. after all if compared to anybody outside united, hes not that bad to be honest. but the standard we set is bloody high and with commitments in all cups we are focusing, everybody must be at their toes and perform, which nani has failed to do these few games into the new season. and last season.

now must go back and wash me body. get some snacks. blardy hungry.
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Yeah, Nani have been pretty disappointing since his debut season, save for a few good games here and there. He started this season quite well I thought, but seems to return to his shell last two games especially. But it's only the start of the new season. Hopefully things will pan out better for him this season. With Ronaldo gone, maybe we can have two wingers doing their thing rather than cover defensively on one side.

Park can be very good in some games, but in some games he can truly be ineffective too. If he has better control, touch and finishing, he would be a great player. Right now he's just a good player IMO. He's the opposite of Valencia really. Very good coming inside, but pretty woeful going outside, while with Valencia it's the other way round. Nani seems to be good on both, but as we know, he's inconsistent. When he's in that kind of form, he's would mess everything up. Simple pass, movement etc.. all wouldn't work for him. Hopefully that Obertan kid has something special about him.. a surprise perhaps.
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The whole Nani vs Ronaldo saga still going on? Man give it up, Ronnie is gone, Nani is what we have. Yes, we may look to give him room for improvement and wait to see his development but just simply said as of current he ain't playing at the top of his game. Nuff said. However we are tops of the table and we are still not in our top form!! That's something to look at rclxms.gif

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However we are tops of the table and we are still not in our top form!! That's something to look at  rclxms.gif
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SAF put so much faith in Nani as he did with Fletch. Even Ronaldo himself saying Nani has the potential to replace his spot. What's there to doubt for?

I was one of those whom were slating Fletch back then. Even when he wasn't playing. I wondered why did SAF has so much faith in him because he was shit back then. And I thought it was because he's a Scot.

Foster and Nani will improve, because our club standard is high and they would want to achieve things with us.
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So far as I can tell, Carrick  has been pretty much a passenger in the team when he's playing. Nothing but safe side and back-passes. Forward passes tended to be over/under-hit. So it's not surprising he's been dropped. Especially with the way Scholesy, Fletcherinho and Anderson-son-son has been playing.

Mind you, he started last season in the same vein as well, but grew in importance as the season wore on. Still has the annoying tendency to go invisible when it matters most, though (e.g. CL Final vs Barcelona).
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He will be back in the game after Sunderland.. Bolton I think in 2-3 weeks time. That's what SAF said. He's back in training though.
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michael owen missed the training...hope nothing serious happens lol...
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He will be back in the game after Sunderland.. Bolton I think in 2-3 weeks time. That's what SAF said. He's back in training though.
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SAF won't rush VDS back in action as it is better to play safe with senior player, don't really want VDS to get injured again in the crucial period in the season, especially during Christmas boxing day.

Micheal Owen and Park are our UCL secret weapon laugh.gif

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Thing about Nani is that since his first season, he's actually deteriorated in terms of performance and product. In his debut season, he was beating players down his wing for fun and whipping in very inviting crosses and corners. And that goal against Tottenham kickstarted our campaign. He's still not turned out to be the star player we've expected him to be when we signed him for about 20 million (must admit I've never heard much about him till we suddenly came out early in the window and said we've signed him and Anderson). Technically, he's one of the best in our squad. He has a fantastic shot in him and very good ball control. What he needs to improve on as many of you has said is his decision-making. Atm, he seems to play with his head down and slows our play down when he's one v one against the opposing rightback. We all know he can beat players with ease, what he needs to do is beat them and whip in a cross immediately. Take lessons from Giggsy. Once he beats his man, he looks up and picks out passes or crosses. I fancy Valencia more as our traditional winger in that he's designated to cross balls in from the right for us to attack, whereas Nani is better cutting inside and popping in shots with his right foot. Ronaldo and Evra were an immense combination, if Nani can develop that area and be half the player Ronaldo was, we'll have a quality winger. Give him time, I'd like to think with the opportunity to feature more often he will get better, and he could be the next no. 7. He blows hot and cold atm. One game he's fantastic, the next he's the worst player on the pitch. He must work on consistency and his footballing brain or he might lose his place to the likes of Park or the upcoming Obertan, who I have very high hopes for.


Added on September 29, 2009, 11:21 pmDamn, I've babbled on far too much. Is Mickey skipping training for his horse betting hobby again? Jk.

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QUOTE(Hevrn @ Sep 29 2009, 11:19 PM)
Thing about Nani is that since his first season, he's actually deteriorated in terms of performance and product. In his debut season, he was beating players down his wing for fun and whipping in very inviting crosses and corners. And that goal against Tottenham kickstarted our campaign. He's still not turned out to be the star player we've expected him to be when we signed him for about 20 million (must admit I've never heard much about him till we suddenly came out early in the window and said we've signed him and Anderson). Technically, he's one of the best in our squad. He has a fantastic shot in him and very good ball control. What he needs to improve on as many of you has said is his decision-making. Atm, he seems to play with his head down and slows our play down when he's one v one against the opposing rightback. We all know he can beat players with ease, what he needs to do is beat them and whip in a cross immediately. Take lessons from Giggsy. Once he beats his man, he looks up and picks out passes or crosses. I fancy Valencia more as our traditional winger in that he's designated to cross balls in from the right for us to attack, whereas Nani is better cutting inside and popping in shots with his right foot. Ronaldo and Evra were an immense combination, if Nani can develop that area and be half the player Ronaldo was, we'll have a quality winger. Give him time, I'd like to think with the opportunity to feature more often he will get better, and he could be the next no. 7. He blows hot and cold atm. One game he's fantastic, the next he's the worst player on the pitch. He must work on consistency and his footballing brain or he might lose his place to the likes of Park or the upcoming Obertan, who I have very high hopes for.


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Paragraph, my friend.

It's still too early of the season to judge, but I personally feel Nani's experience is vital for him to be a great player, I still think he is a very technically gifted winger. Unlike Valencia, who is to me, a bit too narrow on his game. Think Nani as the young giggsy (or Ronaldo), quick on his feet with good skills, but just needs more games.

Oh btw, I still know people who still cringe whenever they see Fletcher or JOS on the team sheet. Funny people, really.
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Paragraph, my friend.

It's still too early of the season to judge, but I personally feel Nani's experience is vital for him to be a great player, I still think he is a very technically gifted winger. Unlike Valencia, who is to me, a bit too narrow on his game. Think Nani as the young giggsy (or Ronaldo), quick on his feet with good skills, but just needs more games.

Oh btw, I still know people who still cringe whenever they see Fletcher or JOS on the team sheet. Funny people, really.
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Nani just doesn't run at defenders the same way. That's why he's not as effective. Ronaldo would just drive at them at speed. Giggs would leave the defenders with twisted blood.. while Nani would go around in circles in slow motion almost most of the time, beating the same guy over and over. That's on his good days. On his bad days even that he can't manage. He need to learn from Valencia a bitm and incorporate that with his skills.. add both qualities together, he would be far more effective. Beating a guy on the outside and crossing it in can't be that hard.


Added on September 30, 2009, 12:42 amPark is out with a virus.. Evra was out too after the Stoke game but recovered in time. Park suap sup to the both of them while Evra is in bed, that's why Park got the virus too I bet. Owen had a groin problem, although not serious. But SAF won't use him unless he has from his tone..

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Hailed as the heir apparent of Cristiano Ronaldo, Nani's recent displays seem to indicate he is but a poor clone of CR7 CR9. Given a first-team berth at Stoke, Nani failed to make his mark and was replaced by Ryan Giggs after just 55 minutes. The Portuguese has himself to blame for the early substitution, as his selfishness in front of goal infuriated the United fans (and Wayne Rooney as well). His unwillingness to pass made it easy for Stoke to surround defenders around him and crowd him out. It was no surprise that United manager Ferguson took him out. The real surprise is how Nani revealed that he phones Cristiano Ronaldo to talk about his problems. Nani should know better than ask the king of selfishness about improving his team play. Perhaps he should just knock on the door of 35-year-old Ryan Giggs to learn a thing or two about teamwork? He can also help the club save some money by knocking back on those overseas phone bills! copy from espnstar.com


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NANI
Hailed as the heir apparent of Cristiano Ronaldo, Nani's recent displays seem to indicate he is but a poor clone of CR7 CR9. Given a first-team berth at Stoke, Nani failed to make his mark and was replaced by Ryan Giggs after just 55 minutes. The Portuguese has himself to blame for the early substitution, as his selfishness in front of goal infuriated the United fans (and Wayne Rooney as well). His unwillingness to pass made it easy for Stoke to surround defenders around him and crowd him out. It was no surprise that United manager Ferguson took him out. The real surprise is how Nani revealed that he phones Cristiano Ronaldo to talk about his problems. Nani should know better than ask the king of selfishness about improving his team play. Perhaps he should just knock on the door of 35-year-old Ryan Giggs to learn a thing or two about teamwork? He can also help the club save some money by knocking back on those overseas phone bills!      copy from espnstar.com
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The only way to judge Nani's quality is to play him frequently. Not all players have the ability to perform right on the spot when needed. Some players,like Nani, need a run of games to be comfortable and grow as a player.

I still feel Nani can become a star in our team if given the opportunity to play week in week out for a stretch of games. If he's only playing once every 2-3 games and on top of that getting substituted early,it definitely will not give him the confidence to continue pushing forward and establishing himself as Man Utd player.

We've seen glimpses of brilliance from him. We know he can put in quality crosses. We know he can play a good one-two with Evra. We know he has the ability to beat defenders over and over again.
The only thing lacking is his bad timing when it comes to delivering crosses. Who knows,maybe he doesn't cross early because he feels there isnt enough targets in the box.

Whatever it is,i feel Nani deserves to have a run with the team for a at least 5-6 matches in a row,over the course of the season. Only then we can make a fair assessment of his abilities.
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guys do you think our local fan club here is strong? it seems to me chelsea and liverpool and heck even arsenal one quite strong.

is ours strong. i wish that we can have regular gathering like every two weeks and huge attendance for big games =( ...

the one in ss2 still there ma ?
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i m started to praise this young Jovetic.. really cool and brilliant player to watch.. heh

Not forget vargas and marchionni too.. but thanks for the opponent failure tactic wink.gif

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agree apis...i got to say jovetic play very well...especially in the first half...giving lots of prob to defenders and can shoot well....let see his 2nd half performance...
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They look really great good forward. Fluid.. and they always have more players attacking than Liverpool defending for some reason.
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well..obviously they play with attacking mind....they didnt only ask for a draw..they wan to win....their players are so aggressive for the ball...that is the reason u will see may players upfield...anyway they might concede some goal if a successful counter attack is played by the opposition...
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well..obviously they play with attacking mind....they didnt only ask for a draw..they wan to win....their players are so aggressive for the ball...that is the reason u will see may players upfield...anyway they might concede some goal if a successful counter attack is played by the opposition...
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guys do you think our local fan club here is strong? it seems to me chelsea and liverpool and heck even arsenal one quite strong.

is ours strong. i wish that we can have regular gathering like every two weeks and huge attendance for big games =( ...

the one in ss2 still there ma ?
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i do agree and i admit that i envy myrawk. their gathering always have lots of people and sometimes they have lucky draw.

so if u wish like that, how about we start our own? u be the chairman and the main sponsor brows.gif
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QUOTE(redscorpion @ Sep 30 2009, 05:33 AM)
i do agree and i admit that i envy myrawk. their gathering always have lots of people and sometimes they have lucky draw.

so if u wish like that, how about we start our own? u be the chairman and the main sponsor  brows.gif
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actually we dont need so much sponsor ... we can actually pool our own money together to run the club. we dont need prizes to see united right?

we start small but strong. need to keep up the activities. but first thing first i believe is the recognition from manchester united first.
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To play him frequently means to take a gamble.

Nani has this problem, see, of being inconsistent. We can see that 1st match he showed his ultimate best, but as the season goes on, his form drops.

So it's either we take a gamble, and play Nani, or we play King Giggsy.
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To play him frequently means to take a gamble.

Nani has this problem, see, of being inconsistent. We can see that 1st match he showed his ultimate best, but as the season goes on, his form drops.

So it's either we take a gamble, and play Nani, or we play King Giggsy.
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King Giggsy is becoming more of a 'Second Half Savior' or a '90-minute Big Game Man' (the latter is after being rested in the previous game) due to his age and his position. Fergie should start adding Tosic into the mix instead of just having either Nani or Giggs on the left side. It'll remind Nani that there are others within the club itself who can replace him if he doesn't buck up. This isn't his first season at the club, how much longer do we have to wait until he's finally developed his footballing brains? doh.gif
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QUOTE(whoopa @ Sep 30 2009, 07:28 AM)
actually we dont need so much sponsor ... we can actually pool our own money together to run the club. we dont need prizes to see united right?

we start small but strong. need to keep up the activities. but first thing first i believe is the recognition from manchester united first.
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Added on September 30, 2009, 9:52 amYou could prob ask those in MyRAWK to get an idea of where to start

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If ur willing to go thru the process of setting up a fan club I'd be glad to lend my support, and I'm sure most of the ones here would be happy to help out as well.


Added on September 30, 2009, 9:52 amYou could prob ask those in MyRAWK to get an idea of where to start
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biggrin.gif at Ferguson and Evans. The old gaffer certainly knows what to say.

Outside of United's circle, Rooney isn't exactly rated highly. Most of the time he gets a mention its due to his temper or a controversial incident involving him (like the "dive" against Arsenal). With Ronaldo's departure, ppl will begin to take more notice of the man. Prior to this the threat has always been Ronaldo. Now, if United were to be successful this season, Rooney will defo be instrumental in that, and surely he'll get the recognition he deserves.

Looking back, the 30 million we blew on him didn't seem too big a sum, especially if he goes on and plays for us till the end of his career. That'd be a steal!
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King Giggsy is becoming more of a 'Second Half Savior' or a '90-minute Big Game Man' (the latter is after being rested in the previous game) due to his age and his position. Fergie should start adding Tosic into the mix instead of just having either Nani or Giggs on the left side. It'll remind Nani that there are others within the club itself who can replace him if he doesn't buck up. This isn't his first season at the club, how much longer do we have to wait until he's finally developed his footballing brains? doh.gif
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Tosic has been nowhere near the first team squad. What's happened to the boy? Dah la not in the Champions' League squad.

Having said that, everytime I've seen him, he's been a little too small and lightweight to be playing as a winger, especially in the EPL. He's done well for Serbia though by all accounts, and has a handy left foot, apparently.
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QUOTE(Rhadykall @ Sep 30 2009, 09:48 AM)
King Giggsy is becoming more of a 'Second Half Savior' or a '90-minute Big Game Man' (the latter is after being rested in the previous game) due to his age and his position. Fergie should start adding Tosic into the mix instead of just having either Nani or Giggs on the left side. It'll remind Nani that there are others within the club itself who can replace him if he doesn't buck up. This isn't his first season at the club, how much longer do we have to wait until he's finally developed his footballing brains? doh.gif
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Tosic is well down the pecking order. He's even behind Welbeck for that spot(Carling Cup recently). I believe it will be a while before we can count on him to contribute in the first team. Well, this is only the start of Nani's third season.. let's see how he does mid season. He really need to turn it on this season.. or next at a push.

QUOTE(Hevrn @ Sep 30 2009, 12:51 PM)
biggrin.gif at Ferguson and Evans. The old gaffer certainly knows what to say.

Outside of United's circle, Rooney isn't exactly rated highly. Most of the time he gets a mention its due to his temper or a controversial incident involving him (like the "dive" against Arsenal). With Ronaldo's departure, ppl will begin to take more notice of the man. Prior to this the threat has always been Ronaldo. Now, if United were to be successful this season, Rooney will defo be instrumental in that, and surely he'll get the recognition he deserves.

Looking back, the 30 million we blew on him didn't seem too big a sum, especially if he goes on and plays for us till the end of his career. That'd be a steal!
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Everybody knew he was something special when he broke through at Everton. SAF initially didn't want to buy him straightaway after that Euro I think.. but Newcastle came in with a bid making us move for him. Thank god! Imagine, a season after that Roman bought Chelsea over... haha, instead of cursing Drogba, we could have been cursing Rooney..

QUOTE(Mayomythical @ Sep 30 2009, 12:59 PM)
Tosic has been nowhere near the first team squad. What's happened to the boy? Dah la not in the Champions' League squad.

Having said that, everytime I've seen him, he's been a little too small and lightweight to be playing as a winger, especially in the EPL. He's done well for Serbia though by all accounts, and has a handy left foot, apparently.
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No idea what happened to him. His first game against Spurs last season he showed good ability. A bit like Park, but just not as busy and with better control. Since then it's like he's been asked to play like a traditional winger, and he so far haven't really impress. Doesn't really have the pace to beat his man, not much variety in his play too.. defenders easily blocked him. Maybe he's better playing on the right coming inside..
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Tosic is well down the pecking order. He's even behind Welbeck for that spot(Carling Cup recently). I believe it will be a while before we can count on him to contribute in the first team. Well, this is only the start of Nani's third season.. let's see how he does mid season. He really need to turn it on this season.. or next at a push.

Everybody knew he was something special when he broke through at Everton. SAF initially didn't want to buy him straightaway after that Euro I think.. but Newcastle came in with a bid making us move for him. Thank god! Imagine, a season after that Roman bought Chelsea over... haha, instead of cursing Drogba, we could have been cursing Rooney..

No idea what happened to him. His first game against Spurs last season he showed good ability. A bit like Park, but just not as busy and with better control. Since then it's like he's been asked to play like a traditional winger, and he so far haven't really impress. Doesn't really have the pace to beat his man, not much variety in his play too.. defenders easily blocked him. Maybe he's better playing on the right coming inside..
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sorry, you have to be exceptional top performance only can stay in the first team of man united or the other top 3 epl clubs ...

tosic is good but his level only good for teams like portsmouth or burnley ... and i doubt even he good enough for villla or everton.

unless drastic improvement from him like fletcher, else he will follow manucho fate.
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sorry, you have to be exceptional top performance only can stay in the first team of man united or the other top 3 epl clubs ...

tosic is good but his level only good for teams like portsmouth or burnley ... and i doubt even he good enough for villla or everton.

unless drastic improvement from him like fletcher, else he will follow manucho fate.
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Tosic hasn't even got his real first team opportunities due to pack of midfield in our team. We don't even know if he is good or not good enough for us. So judging him is good only for teams like portsmouth/burnley NOW is wrong. It's still early bro...

Ferguson wants him to develop slowly so he is playing for our reserves team first. Even highly rated macheda/welbeck ain't got their opportunities yet.

Judging from that, a good example is lassana diarra. He was just a sub for arsenal and chelsea but joined portsmouth at the age of 23 then won a cup with them at that season. Now he is playing for real madrid, considered one of the best DM in the world...

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Tosic hasn't even got his real first team opportunities due to pack of midfield in our team. We don't even know if he is good or not good enough for us. So judging him is good only for teams like portsmouth/burnley NOW is wrong. It's still early bro...

Ferguson wants him to develop slowly so he is playing for our reserves team first. Even highly rated macheda/welbeck ain't got their opportunities yet.

Judging from that, a good example is lassana diarra. He was just a sub for arsenal and chelsea but joined portsmouth at the age of 23 then won a cup with them at that season. Now he is playing for real madrid, considered one of the best DM in the world...
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but that would be asking the enemy lol .. just jk will do .. just see how it goes during the weekend ..
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... the problem i foresee before people start associating rooney with the afore-mentioned 'great' players is that compared to them, rooney is seen more as a bulldozer. granted, a bulldozer with supreme skills but a bulldozer nonetheless. Kaka, messi, even ronaldo is more the silky-smooth lotus elise in comparison biggrin.gif ...not that's a bad thing... seriously, i'd take rooney over the others mentioned anyday... what better than a superb athlete with a combative spirit? ...but then again, during world cups i'm always the german juggernaut machine supporter than silky brazil anyday...
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Not 24 until next month, Rooney's storming start to the current campaign has seen him pass a century of United goals and join the pacesetters in the race for the Barclays Premier League golden boot.

Having worked closely with the England international for half a decade, Sir Alex is in little doubt as to how far Rooney can go.

"He hasn't at any point disappointed us," the United manager said at his pre-Wolfsburg press conference. "When we signed him as a young kid we thought exactly the same as today; that he will become a real top player.

"There are some great players like Kaka, Ronaldo and Lionel Messi - they're the three best players in the world, I think, and Wayne could easily get to that level, with the right progress.

"He is going in that direction without question. He's blessed with certain ingredients that only great footballers have. Great determination and hunger to win every match. Every time he goes on the field, every training session, he's blessed with that. It won't ever change for him and these are wonderful things to take into the game of football today.

"You sometimes wonder about the criticism of what footballers get paid, but when you see that effort he puts in, he's worth every penny he's paid. He plays as if he means it and I think it's a  wonderful thing to have."

Sir Alex brackets Rooney alongside a number of United greats who have given their all for the cause, and he points out that the striker's desire to be control and win games will forever be his fuel.

"We've had countless players at this club - like Roy Keane, Bryan Robson, Steve Bruce - who have had that great desire to win matches. It's a pre-requisite coming to this club and we like to think our identification of footballers includes that.

"Wayne's a funny animal. He thinks he's a good centre half, and I wouldn't bet against that! He is the coach now, he tells me. Manager, coach and referee! He's got a great desire and you can't put that down. It's always there."


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Cristiano Ronaldo lines up against Marseille in the Santiago Bernabeu on Wednesday evening, while Carlos Tevez was in goalscoring action for Manchester City on Monday. But Martins, who is enjoying a new lease of life after his own summer move, sees through those high-profile departures.

"Even without Ronaldo and Tevez, I would say you face the same problems playing against United," Martins told BBC Sport. "In fact, I would even say they are playing much better than before.

"When Ronaldo was on the pitch, everyone looked to him, expecting him to change the game when his team most needed it. But now United have a lot of players who can change a game, like Wayne Rooney, Michael Owen, Dimitar Berbatov. Even the defenders can score goals, so we must watch out for them all over the pitch."

The Nigerian concedes that he holds Rooney in special regard, and is aware that he and his new team-mates must beware United's number 10 on Wednesday.

"He is my favourite, no question," he said. "He is playing so well at the moment, he can destroy defenders in an instant.

"He is scoring goals, maybe more goals than before, and he is helping the team in lots of other ways as well. He is a player we need to be very, very careful of.

"I've told my team-mates about Rooney and all the United players but they know United have a team full of top-class footballers. Everyone knows that."

Wolfsburg are renowned for their own prolific goalscoring form, however, and Martins has been taken aback by his fellow strikers' quality.

"The quality of the squad has surprised me a lot since I arrived," he said. "There is a lot of talent here, no big-name players, but people who can play football - not least Grafite and (Ezin) Dzeko, who are both very, very good," added Martins.

"Grafite can score from absolutely anywhere and Dzeko is very strong, he can keep the ball and bring the midfielders into play. It is easy to play with these guys because they are big and strong and can hold it up for me.

"We are an attacking team, that's the way we play, so it is going to be tough for Manchester United as well. It will be a fun game, very interesting."


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Wow... thx alien.. never notice that martins was at wolfsburg now..

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Wow... thx alien.. never notice that martins was at wolfsburg now..

Hope that vida and evra can cope well with his pacey..
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We should be more worried about his teammates, Dzeko(36 goals last season) and that Grafite(28 goals last season?).

Rooney is not turning it on last 2 games or so.. should we be worried that he will be on a drought? I just hope even if his goalscoring touch ain't quite there, he would bring still bring his football boot and brain to the pitch with him.
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QUOTE(Wan @ Sep 30 2009, 08:23 PM)
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We should be more worried about his teammates, Dzeko(36 goals last season) and that Grafite(28 goals last season?).

Rooney is not turning it on last 2 games or so.. should we be worried that he will be on a drought? I just hope even if his goalscoring touch ain't quite there, he would bring still bring his football boot and brain to the pitch with him.
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QUOTE(Wan @ Sep 30 2009, 07:23 PM)
Reported for spam!  laugh.gif

We should be more worried about his teammates, Dzeko(36 goals last season) and that Grafite(28 goals last season?).

Rooney is not turning it on last 2 games or so.. should we be worried that he will be on a drought? I just hope even if his goalscoring touch ain't quite there, he would bring still bring his football boot and brain to the pitch with him.
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yeah...once Rooney on drought..he is really mean it! hope this time won't

yeah! Dzeko & Grafite! 60++ goals between them, it's a scary number and remind me of Cole-Yorke's goals!

As long as Rio or Foster don't do any funny things, we can hold them

Who said should rest Fletcher? We need him to cut off the supplies so that Dzeko-Grafite won't getting the balls!
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QUOTE(beck_ken @ Sep 30 2009, 08:08 PM)
yeah...once Rooney on drought..he is really mean it! hope this time won't

yeah! Dzeko & Grafite! 60++ goals between them, it's a scary number and remind me of Cole-Yorke's goals!

As long as Rio or Foster don't do any funny things, we can hold them

Who said should rest Fletcher? We need him to cut off the supplies so that Dzeko-Grafite won't getting the balls!
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Torres is also very menacing last weekend but totally didn't turn up in the UCL match last nite.

So should we praise the Fiorentina or say that Liverpool can only bully the weak ?
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A bit of both. biggrin.gif
It's hard playing away in the CL, no matter what team it is. Just look how we struggled a bit in Turkey last week.. or few weeks back.

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QUOTE(waif @ Sep 30 2009, 09:23 PM)
Torres is also very menacing last weekend but totally didn't turn up in the UCL match last nite.

So should we praise the Fiorentina or say that Liverpool can only bully the weak ?
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Hi, do you guys have the highlight of ManUtd vs ManC last week?? I know there is one in the front page, but I'm looking for wmv format, cause I need to edit it for my project, and the movie maker does not support avi format.

Help please cry.gif cry.gif
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Hi, do you guys have the highlight of ManUtd vs ManC last week?? I know there is one in the front page, but I'm looking for wmv format, cause I need to edit it for my project, and the movie maker does not support avi format.

Help please  cry.gif  cry.gif
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QUOTE(zs3889 @ Sep 30 2009, 09:41 PM)
Hi, do you guys have the highlight of ManUtd vs ManC last week?? I know there is one in the front page, but I'm looking for wmv format, cause I need to edit it for my project, and the movie maker does not support avi format.

Help please  cry.gif  cry.gif
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Not sure about wmv formats.. didn't search, but mostly people use avi.

But go here..
http://www.erightsoft.com/Superdc.html

Download and install that. Then just convert the vid to wmv format. Choose no change on the resolution thing..
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3 united on top of the league

EPL - Manchester UNITED
Championship - Newcastle UNITED
1st Division - Leeds UNITED
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3 united on top of the league

EPL - Manchester UNITED
Championship - Newcastle UNITED
1st Division - Leeds UNITED
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NO NO NO, I don't want to see f**king Leeds United promoted.... tongue.gif

This guy is getting arrogant and arrogant!!!
Tevez promises to celebrate goals against United
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QUOTE(KhangFai @ Sep 30 2009, 11:00 PM)
NO NO NO, I don't want to see f**king Leeds United promoted.... tongue.gif

This guy is getting arrogant and arrogant!!!
Tevez promises to celebrate goals against United
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PS: screw tevez, his not going to shine. All he know how to do is to talk big against us and in the end, do nothing
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QUOTE(zs3889 @ Sep 30 2009, 09:41 PM)
Hi, do you guys have the highlight of ManUtd vs ManC last week?? I know there is one in the front page, but I'm looking for wmv format, cause I need to edit it for my project, and the movie maker does not support avi format.

Help please  cry.gif  cry.gif
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windows movie maker does support avi IIRC
i've used them before
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wts wrong with leeds?

PS: screw tevez, his not going to shine. All he know how to do is to talk big against us and in the end, do nothing
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Don't know.....I just hate Leeds United without reason... tongue.gif
We are MANCHESTER UNITED ma....our blood is rival with f**king Liverpool, Manchester City and Leeds United...

COME ON UNITED!!!!
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QUOTE(KhangFai @ Sep 30 2009, 10:13 PM)
Don't know.....I just hate Leeds United without reason... tongue.gif
We are MANCHESTER UNITED ma....our blood is rival with f**king Liverpool, Manchester City and Leeds United...

COME ON UNITED!!!!
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their striker so scary  cry.gif  cry.gif  cry.gif
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QUOTE(Wan @ Sep 30 2009, 09:47 PM)
Not sure about wmv formats.. didn't search, but mostly people use avi.

But go here..
http://www.erightsoft.com/Superdc.html

Download and install that. Then just convert the vid to wmv format. Choose no change on the resolution thing..
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Thanks, I'm trying now.

QUOTE(driftmeister @ Sep 30 2009, 10:05 PM)
windows movie maker does support avi IIRC
i've used them before
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I've tried it, but the image didn't not show up, just the audio cry.gif
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Have u heard about Rooney, Berbatov, and Owen?  brows.gif
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Thanks, I'm trying now.
I've tried it, but the image didn't not show up, just the audio  cry.gif
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ermm...perhaps is the video codec problem? smile.gif
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Omg, Wan, after converting, the software left me a watermark in the middle of my video rclxub.gif Cause the version I'm using is not registered.


Added on September 30, 2009, 10:43 pm
QUOTE(mike86 @ Sep 30 2009, 10:34 PM)
ermm...perhaps is the video codec problem? smile.gif
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If so, what should I do...?

Sorry for interrupting in this thread, I'm just looking forward to get this thing done, of course I'm a ManUtd fans as well.

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QUOTE(zs3889 @ Sep 30 2009, 10:41 PM)
Omg, Wan, after converting, the software left me a watermark in the middle of my video  rclxub.gif Cause the version I'm using is not registered.


Added on September 30, 2009, 10:43 pm

If so, what should I do...?

Sorry for interrupting in this thread, I'm just looking forward to get this thing done, of course I'm a ManUtd fans as well.
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can you give me the full name of your converter and the version...??
example (abc dvi to mp3 converter 2.13)
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can you give me the full name of your converter and the version...??
example (abc dvi to mp3 converter 2.13)
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PM-ed you, let's continue thought pm system sweat.gif
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Wolfsburg are indeed scary. It will be a tough challenge for our team but winning such game will actually increase the team morale and "form" too.
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ok this tevez guy pisses me off more than liverpool fans nowadays

cant he just stfu and move on ?
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man utd can win if they can stop grafitte n eric dzeko..
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I think Ben Foster need to be on top of his game for this crucial match...
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man utd can win if they can stop grafitte n eric dzeko..
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yeah. not only him. the rest of the suppliers!
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he's the main supplier brows.gif
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have u guys prepare?
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Matchday thread open. F5 button at the ready... laugh.gif
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* 29 Tomasz Kuszczak
* 3 Patrice Evra
* 5 Rio Ferdinand
* 7 Michael Owen
* 8 Anderson
* 10 Wayne Rooney
* 11 Ryan Giggs
* 15 Nemanja Vidić
* 16 Michael Carrick
* 22 John O'Shea
* 25 Antonio Valencia

Substitutes

* 12 Ben Foster
* 6 Wes Brown
* 9 Dimitar Berbatov
* 17 Nani
* 18 Paul Scholes
* 20 Fabio
* 24 Darren Fletcher

Coach

Sir Alex Ferguson
VfL Wolfsburg

* 1 Diego Benaglio
* 4 Marcel Schäfer
* 5 Ricardo Costa
* 7 Josué
* 9 Edin Džeko
* 10 Zvjezdan Misimović
* 13 Makoto Hasebe
* 17 Alexander Madlung
* 20 Sascha Riether
* 23 Grafite
* 25 Christian Gentner

Substitutes

* 12 André Lenz
* 11 Obafemi Martins
* 14 Jonathan Santana
* 15 Karim Ziani
* 19 Peter Pekarík
* 24 Ashkan Dejagah
* 43 Andrea Barzagli

Coach

Armin Veh


Added on October 1, 2009, 1:56 amUnless that guys lying.. haha. quite weird lineup.

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PM-ed you, let's continue thought pm system  sweat.gif
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Kuszczak
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QUOTE(Wan @ Oct 1 2009, 01:55 AM)
* 29 Tomasz Kuszczak
* 3 Patrice Evra
* 5 Rio Ferdinand
* 7 Michael Owen
* 8 Anderson
* 10 Wayne Rooney
* 11 Ryan Giggs
* 15 Nemanja Vidić
* 16 Michael Carrick
* 22 John O'Shea
* 25 Antonio Valencia

Substitutes

* 12 Ben Foster
* 6 Wes Brown
* 9 Dimitar Berbatov
* 17 Nani
* 18 Paul Scholes
* 20 Fabio
* 24 Darren Fletcher

Coach

Sir Alex Ferguson
VfL Wolfsburg

* 1 Diego Benaglio
* 4 Marcel Schäfer
* 5 Ricardo Costa
* 7 Josué
* 9 Edin Džeko
* 10 Zvjezdan Misimović
* 13 Makoto Hasebe
* 17 Alexander Madlung
* 20 Sascha Riether
* 23 Grafite
* 25 Christian Gentner

Substitutes

* 12 André Lenz
* 11 Obafemi Martins
* 14 Jonathan Santana
* 15 Karim Ziani
* 19 Peter Pekarík
* 24 Ashkan Dejagah
* 43 Andrea Barzagli

Coach

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Added on October 1, 2009, 1:56 amUnless that guys lying.. haha. quite weird lineup.
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No berbatov?? No Fletchinho? haihz..

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QUOTE(Wan @ Oct 1 2009, 01:55 AM)
* 29 Tomasz Kuszczak
* 3 Patrice Evra
* 5 Rio Ferdinand
* 7 Michael Owen
* 8 Anderson
* 10 Wayne Rooney
* 11 Ryan Giggs
* 15 Nemanja Vidić
* 16 Michael Carrick
* 22 John O'Shea
* 25 Antonio Valencia

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Added on October 1, 2009, 1:56 amUnless that guys lying.. haha. quite weird lineup.
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It's normal IMO, 2 wingers and 2 at mid, at least Foster will be on the bench rclxms.gif
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SAF's way of punishing Foster? Don't want to make it obvious last Sunday, now got his chance. tongue.gif
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* 29 Tomasz Kuszczak
* 3 Patrice Evra
* 5 Rio Ferdinand
* 7 Michael Owen
* 8 Anderson
* 10 Wayne Rooney
* 11 Ryan Giggs
* 15 Nemanja Vidić
* 16 Michael Carrick
* 22 John O'Shea
* 25 Antonio Valencia

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* 12 Ben Foster
* 6 Wes Brown
* 9 Dimitar Berbatov
* 17 Nani
* 18 Paul Scholes
* 20 Fabio
* 24 Darren Fletcher

Coach

Sir Alex Ferguson
VfL Wolfsburg

* 1 Diego Benaglio
* 4 Marcel Schäfer
* 5 Ricardo Costa
* 7 Josué
* 9 Edin Džeko
* 10 Zvjezdan Misimović
* 13 Makoto Hasebe
* 17 Alexander Madlung
* 20 Sascha Riether
* 23 Grafite
* 25 Christian Gentner

Substitutes

* 12 André Lenz
* 11 Obafemi Martins
* 14 Jonathan Santana
* 15 Karim Ziani
* 19 Peter Pekarík
* 24 Ashkan Dejagah
* 43 Andrea Barzagli

Coach

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i am curios with SAF for the line up
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SAF's way of punishing Foster? Don't want to make it obvious last Sunday, now got his chance. tongue.gif
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Once on bench, forever on bench tongue.gif

There were some similar cases in the past what.

Ohya the match is 2:45am later? Just done my project and realize it's already 2am, since only 45minutes left brows.gif , although have to wake up 8am later in the morning.
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It will only be forever if he's benched for the EPL games too. We rotated the GK a bit last season in CL. Same thing again perhaps.
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Last season in CL group stage:
First 3 games: Vds.
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QUOTE(Wan @ Oct 1 2009, 02:07 AM)
It will only be forever if he's benched for the EPL games too. We rotated the GK a bit last season in CL. Same thing again perhaps.
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But Wolfsburg is the strongest opponent in the group what, the best GK should be on the pitch, btw when is VDS coming out??
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guys, are mcDs still pasang astro nowadays? all cafes in my college closed already =(
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guys, are mcDs still pasang astro nowadays? all cafes in my college closed already =(
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It depends, some have some don't, watch online lah, I'm going to watch in front of my computer since I'm watching alone sad.gif

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finally carrick!!
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QUOTE(zs3889 @ Oct 1 2009, 02:09 AM)
But Wolfsburg is the strongest opponent in the group what, the best GK should be on the pitch, btw when is VDS coming out??
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Added on October 1, 2009, 2:14 amKuszczak started the away game against Villareal last season. Strongest team in the group alongside us. tongue.gif

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QUOTE(sCooteRiSm @ Oct 1 2009, 02:08 AM)
guys, are mcDs still pasang astro nowadays? all cafes in my college closed already =(
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Depend on which McD you go to. Some still show football match in order to draw in more customer.

I would prefer to see Fletcher starting instead of Carrick and Scholes. I have a feeling SAF going to go for a 451 but it just a feeling. We got Sunderland in weekend and I know its suicidal to underestimate opponent but IMO, Carrick and Ando is more than capable to handle Sunderland midfield. We need Fletcher in this game as he play a pivotal role as the anchorman in the midfield and with Scholes alongside him to spread the ball around. I can't see Rooney Owen combination but I got my finger crossed for this biggrin.gif


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QUOTE(rayz1031 @ Oct 1 2009, 02:14 AM)
Depend on which McD you go to. Some still show football match in order to draw in more customer.

I would prefer to see Fletcher starting instead of Carrick and Scholes. I have a feeling SAF going to go for a 451 but it just a feeling. We got Sunderland in weekend and I know its suicidal to underestimate opponent but IMO, Carrick and Ando is more than capable to handle Sunderland midfield. We need Fletcher in this game as he play a pivotal role as the anchorman in the midfield and with Scholes alongside him to spread the ball around. I can't see Rooney Owen combination but I got my finger crossed for this biggrin.gif
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No Scholes please sweat.gif Didn't you see how hard inaccurate was his tackling sweat.gif sweat.gif
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post Oct 1 2009, 02:22 AM

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flecther need to rest.. so can tapaO sunderland this weekend~ biggrin.gif
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post Oct 1 2009, 02:22 AM

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Is McD open 24 hours? I want to call them for delivery.

Been here in my room for nearly 24 hours without eating. I'm sick.
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yes open.. just make a call
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QUOTE(maxizanc @ Oct 1 2009, 02:22 AM)
Is McD open 24 hours? I want to call them for delivery.

Been here in my room for nearly 24 hours without eating. I'm sick.
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It depends as well, haha, where is your location?
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Going to be a very open game I feel tonight.. just hope our defence is in tip top condition for once this season!
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QUOTE(maxizanc @ Oct 1 2009, 02:22 AM)
Is McD open 24 hours? I want to call them for delivery.

Been here in my room for nearly 24 hours without eating. I'm sick.
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Where have u been mate? Never go to McD i guess?

btw, rest and plz dont overjoy when we get a goal. Shafaakallah nod.gif

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lol 15mins to the game smile.gif

hope it's a good game!

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