dont think u underpaid bro, u only got barely 1 year working experience and yet ur gross earning around 3k+

My cousin sister grad in degree getting 1.8k as start in kl...

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Added on June 29, 2010, 9:30 amwith first class honour easily can get 3k...

banking line always welcome u....3k and above....hsbc ocbc 3.5k wootz

engineering line altera intel dell 3k also

2k ? really underpaid...typical chinaman company...hate it

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Added on June 29, 2010, 9:34 amits not very low but not that competitive pay...maybe u opt for joining back the same field for better salary?



This post has been edited by maru: Jun 29 2010, 09:34 AM

Any insurance agents here? If possible, can I get an idea of what the salary is like for an insurance agent after a year of work?

insurance agent salary is depend on their networking n hard work...

i can tell u if u hardworking enough, 5 figure is not a matter....but if u new in this line, well u can barely earn 1-2k

And how long does one normally take to break out of this beginning salary? Let's just say that I'm a very hardworking man.

I'm a school teacher with 4 years teaching experience and degree holder. My salary breakdown is:

Basic: 2329.00
Housing incent: 250.00
General incent: 300
CoLA (cost-of-living allowance): 100

Gross salary: 2979.00

Hey all i need opinion here...

Current job

Job Title : programmer
age: 22
Company : local chinaman co.
Industry : IT
Tenure : Permanent
Experience before joining : 1/2 year
Education: diploma
Tenure : permanent
Salary : RM1750

I got offer from another company, here is the details :

Job Title : programmer
Company : local co.
Industry : advertising
Tenure : 6 month probation (if excel will become permanent)
Experience before joining : 1 year ++
Education: diploma
Offered Salary : RM2500

I in dilemma right now, which one is better?? stay at my current co , move or find another better offer..help plz..thx

This post has been edited by tauhu: Jun 30 2010, 01:46 AM

its a no brainer. jump, srsly.

yeah i have decided to jump early, but my current employer seems like dont want to let me go and dont want to counter the offer also....he even ask me to keep my resignation later 1st when i give him and ask me to consider it again...do you think RM2500 is good enough??..how much can diploma holder expect to get with more than one year exp?? btw, im doing web programming...

i tell u what bro....just JUMP

seriously what u wanna do v ur current company? they dont counter offer? they look down on u, cause they thought u might bullshit them v this kind of salary...

bro is about opportunity, with diploma n getting 2.5k is very good pay

u only 22, u work around 1year only, ur basic 2.5k??? that is very wonderful...

me as degree holder....2.5k basic after 2 years working....now edi 26...

compare to me, u think ur salary aint that better?

So seriously just jump, money is more important

i making 3k++ cant even survive properly in kl area

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Added on June 30, 2010, 2:33 amhard to justify bro, as i said even if u very hardworking, selling insurance also depend on ur networking, i believe u might come out from fresh. Ur customer only can target fren n family, relatives etc....

The chances they goin to buy i not sure, pretty low i guess....

Nevertheless sky is the limit, once u know the tactic everything, thing might easy for u....

I used to work as part timer, not very aggressive, managed to earn around 1k+ 1-3months time....

Its very subjective to confirm u a proper figure....if u still young it wont be harm for u to try

This post has been edited by maru: Jun 30 2010, 02:33 AM

You have a diploma, work around 1 year and offered RM2500, its a good offer.

I really do not see any dilemma.

im in dilemma coz they dont want to let me go and keep trying to persuade me (with promise) to stay there...

I think its time to tell them my decision..i will jump hehe..feel really stupid if i let go this opportunity...
thx all 4 ur opinion...really appreciate it...

Yes you have made the right decision, best indeed.
For your qualification I think 2.5 k is the market rate.

In computer world degree or diploma is not really important the most important thing is you can deliver.

I think it's reasonable that an overseas graduate demand more, even RM2500 is a bit less, they should be paid around the range of RM3000-RM4000 depends on location. Please bear in mind that those who graduated from overseas have certain qualities that local graduates don't have, you can't hire someone ONLY based on their results. For example an overseas graduate need to stay far from his family, be independent, interact with people with totally different background, settle most of the stuff by himself (find a place to stay, pay electrical bills, cook by himself... etc), and some of them even work as cleaners in restaurants during summer holiday. These experience might not be significant, but certainly will develope the capabilities of someone in terms of handling problems and difficulties... Of course my statements are exclude those who are super rich and their parents flew to see them 5 times a year and settle everything for them.

And a typical chinaman company problem: Always press down someone's salary. I told my boss last time that money maybe is not everything, but it CERTAINLY will motivate the employees, the more you pay, the more the employees feel appreciated (tell me if I'm wrong!), don't expect to pay a price of a kancil and hope to drive it like a ferrari... you pay the price of a kancil, you will get a kancil (even if you boost the engine you will need to add more money). Always keep that in mind.

If you are the boss and you have a budget for your employees' salary, my advise to you is to hire less people and increase their salary, rather than hire a bunch of people and everyone getting very little pay.

Yes, i also agree that u should jump unless your current company counter offer u as same as your current offer rm2.5k. Chance does not come every time. Should grab the opportunity.

Just wants to get an opinion from you guys.

what is the market range for;

Interior Designer
4 Years Experience

Thinking to find new place next year.

I've sent her to training, seminar, expo and she enjoy the exposure. SInce the company is small, normally i'll approved the event that she proposed. If she is not happy with the offer or company and want to jump, no choice but let go. But, I have to say a fresh graduate can't demand so much until you show your performance and working attitude.

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Added on June 30, 2010, 11:17 pmHaha...actually not I demand for high grade for my staff. But, you will choose candidate with CGPA 3.65 or candidate with CGPA 3.25 if both also accept your RM1700 as basic salary? I think most ppl have the same answer, right?

This post has been edited by lynn1901: Jun 30 2010, 11:17 PM

Hi there, I'm in same situation with you before this..I'm 21 years old..Now my decision is change job..my previous job was higher salary..but it's not my field..dont let your current company effect your decision..ask yourself,do you satisfy what you have now?

do you like your current job?
what they promise you to make you stay? increment? higher position?
what you want to achieve?
what job do you prefer?
Let say it is same job scope, then just look for the salary..

This post has been edited by Lineage: Jun 30 2010, 11:30 PM

lynn1901, choose the one with cgpa of 2.5 if you have that kind of budget.

there is "zero" reason for someone good to stay in a company that does not pay accordingly. Most will leave once they find a better job. Every company can offer learning opportunities, training etc..

Choose the 2.5cgpa one and there is a higher chance that he will stick with the company due to a lack of choice. Of course, there is always the odd one that doesn't mind the low pay but that is an abnormality.

RM2000 basic for a fresh graduate consider underpaid? If this basic is net pay then consider is underpaid, but I still offer allowance (RM350 allowance), petrol claim (limit to RM500/month) and commission (0.4% on sales), she follow up current sales value about RM100K / month, total pay is about RM2000 + RM350 allowance + RM400 commission = RM2750/month. But,she only start to entitle for the commission after her 6 month probation, so now she already entitled for this commission. I think this package for a fresh graduate is acceptable. I still remember when I start my sales career with this company, I don't have existing customer account and start to build from ZERO la...

Good pour more effort, spend more time, give more training. after one year then what? she leaving? dont you think its a waste?

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Added on June 30, 2010, 11:39 pmIf it is sales even worst.... i got 1 whole lot of list with higher salary, transportation allowance + mileage claim, phone reimbursement, toll parking, lotta trainings provided. Basic + claim already about RM4k with good sales it would be so much more... RM2750 -___- i'm not a sales guy but my 1st job as a technical support i am already receiving 3k+...

This post has been edited by kidmad: Jun 30 2010, 11:39 PM