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TommyTan
post May 13 2010, 09:21 AM

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Fresh grads range from 1800 - 3000 in the general case, for KL jobs.

Jobs further from city centre may pay less.

If you think you're a hotshot grad, these figures don't apply.
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post May 14 2010, 09:17 AM

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QUOTE(static @ May 13 2010, 02:47 PM)
Doing SAS though. Might try SAP in the near future.
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Are you with the principal? SAS is "#1 best company to work with" in US according to Fortune

Added on May 14, 2010, 9:19 am
QUOTE(yvanser @ May 14 2010, 01:14 AM)
I have never met a guy with 4 years experience that earns less than 10k a month
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No wonder those fella I met all 20+ drive BMW one.

At first I thought they anak Datuk, but they say they anak kampung aje.

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post May 19 2010, 10:55 AM

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QUOTE(kidmad @ May 19 2010, 10:19 AM)
yo bro, what stock available? would it be safe to invest on it? I'm think of some investment as well at the moment.
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Sukuk.
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post May 25 2010, 09:13 AM

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QUOTE(kidmad @ May 25 2010, 09:07 AM)
Btw why not taking your degree?
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1. no budget
2. barely pass spm due to too much facebook, don't dare take degree scared fail.
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post Jun 2 2010, 09:38 AM

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Its all about opportunities.

You probably land in a 2K+ job for starters.

And you might get 10K a month working 1 hour a day like some other guy in some thread here.

What's important, is to secure stable income to meet your personal needs.
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post Jun 2 2010, 10:25 AM

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QUOTE(Starbucki @ Jun 2 2010, 09:59 AM)
It's easy to lose hope when people here tell you that fresh grads earn 2.5k, and those with 3 years experience get 5k.

What you don't see and hear are fresh graduates who find it difficult to even get a 1k clerical job.
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I joined a large MNC at 1.8K. 3 years later I was at 2.1K. Thats RM90 a year increment. 3-5% a year, very average, very normal.
And apparently that was "good already, so many no increment"

Know your market averages. Stop saying "that salary report is BS". Then in turn know your own value and how to bargain for more.
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post Jun 28 2010, 12:40 PM

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QUOTE(lynn1901 @ Jun 27 2010, 10:44 PM)
I've interviewed a few fresh graduates asking for salary above RM2500, reason is they graduated from oversea and some because they are 1st class honour. Honestly, I won't choose those fresh graduate who demand so much. At last, I choose a fresh graduate with CGPA 3.65 and expected salary is RM2000. I offered her RM1700 + allowance + commission and she accepted. After 6 months, she can perform and I increased her salary to RM2000. I think the most importance is you love the job, put effort to perform the best, innovative and learn. Your boss will knew it. If they don't appreciate you, learn everything and jump la.
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I believe a company offer RM1700 for fresh grad and want the high grade grade is being very cheapskate and these candidate will easily find a new job and you will deal with the attrition which is a loss to your company.
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post Jun 30 2010, 09:49 AM

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QUOTE(tauhu @ Jun 30 2010, 01:45 AM)
I in dilemma right now, which one is better?? stay at my current co , move or find another better offer..help plz..thx
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You have a diploma, work around 1 year and offered RM2500, its a good offer.

I really do not see any dilemma.
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post Jul 1 2010, 09:43 AM

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QUOTE(lynn1901 @ Jun 30 2010, 11:30 PM)
RM2000 basic for a fresh graduate consider underpaid? If this basic is net pay then consider is underpaid, but I still offer allowance (RM350 allowance), petrol claim (limit to RM500/month) and commission (0.4% on sales), she follow up current sales value about RM100K / month, total pay is about RM2000 + RM350 allowance + RM400 commission = RM2750/month.
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Previously you did not mention your allowance and commissions rate. Now that you did, I have no debate. This is a good rate for fresh grad. (at 1700 + 350 + MILEAGE + COMMISSION).
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post Jul 7 2010, 01:00 PM

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QUOTE(knight @ Jul 7 2010, 10:20 AM)
Age : 26
Job Title : Service Engineer
Job Desciption : Troubleshooting life plant, Calibration and maintenance.
Years spent in company : < 2 years
Industry : Oil and Gas
Employment Level : Executive
Experience before joining : 1 year
Degree : Microelectronics and Control Systems
salary : RM 2.5k
Do you guys think I'm underpaid?
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I thought oil and gas pay tons of money?
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post Jul 9 2010, 02:42 PM

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QUOTE(kenhm @ Jul 9 2010, 11:35 AM)
agree with u, that is such a rubbish HR person, i am wonder wheather she got learn HR management or not before in charge in recritment. Btw, RM 2.5K is not much nowadays, somemore ppl grad from oversea and first class honour,. it worth much more than that value. this HR are so stupid, hire 'people' in sake of occupy the vacancy, in short, hire people for 'people', but i can tell most successful company they hire people for soultion, that is the different. SHIT
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HR is a dirty job, especially over here where there is very little focus on talent management.
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post Sep 17 2010, 11:12 AM

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QUOTE(MildSevenLights @ Sep 15 2010, 11:32 AM)
Hey guys wanna check out is my current salary underpaid or overpaid icon_question.gif
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You're doing fine.


QUOTE(CrossFirE @ Sep 16 2010, 01:00 PM)
guys, want you guys to help me with this.. i am underpaid or overpaid or in normal grade?
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many freshies start at 2-2.2K , after a year if the annual increment is 5%/10% that still puts them below 2.4K
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post Sep 21 2010, 10:24 AM

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QUOTE(danny1010 @ Sep 21 2010, 09:48 AM)
What do you think?
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Its a good rate, many people of your age are struggling to hit 5K even, in general.
For specialist Ora dba you have room to go higher also, you have not hit the wall yet
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post Oct 6 2010, 01:42 PM

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QUOTE(migai @ Oct 6 2010, 12:04 PM)
that company is very good for my career growth and having good bonus too.
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why not give it a shot?
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post Oct 13 2010, 11:34 AM

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QUOTE(Larrylow @ Oct 13 2010, 10:23 AM)
Hey guys, I have a question here and I am not sure if I am in the right thread.

How much do you think that I need to maintain my lifestyle comfortably in KL:

1. Rent a house
2. Maintain my car
3. Dating my gf
4. And any other miscellaneous expense that you could think of
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Any set of random numbers will do, preferably 4-5 digit numbers.
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post Oct 19 2010, 01:50 PM

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QUOTE(Georgina261 @ Oct 19 2010, 01:34 PM)
Some jobs they can honored us with "great title of the job" (could be very senior level/ professional), but the paid still the same n the workload is higher! Wat for?!
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Because the staff may not find it so easy to just quit and find a new job.
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post Oct 27 2010, 02:50 PM

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extra RM900 basic. your call.
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post Jan 11 2011, 03:57 PM

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QUOTE(etia86 @ Jan 11 2011, 03:12 PM)
Job Title : Sales and Support Enginee

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aim higher my friend. RM1.8K is tough to survive as it is. dont get comfortable, not in your 1st few year of employment!
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post Jan 12 2011, 12:05 PM

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QUOTE(scoon1972 @ Jan 12 2011, 09:56 AM)
Hey guys really need a big help & favour from any kind person out there My boss asked me to formulate a Sales Commission Structure for our sales executive team for electrical related products  sweat.gif or any IT related products would also greatly help.
This may be beneficial for all sales exec too to see if we are being short change by our bosses or our bosses are generous.
You help is much appreciated! Thanks  icon_question.gif
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post Jan 19 2011, 09:17 AM

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QUOTE(kelvin_tan @ Jan 18 2011, 10:02 AM)
@acrylic_26
You have already lost. The first person to give out the number loses. Why did you tell them that your current pay is 1.8k in the first place? how is that any relevance to the job you are about to take?

The salary should be dependant on job responsibilities, not how much you previously earned.
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for position of that level its too easy to get bully by companies out there. cos if you dont want it, there likely to be lots of other applicants. its quite unfair to just take your current sal + ~XX% and offer, you may only get half-hearted candidates.
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