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 Yamaha AVR Thread v2.00, Discussions about Yamaha AVR

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dirtrun
post May 13 2015, 03:00 PM

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QUOTE(raif @ May 13 2015, 02:10 PM)
Yup I understand but still, the sound is simply amazing.
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Hence to me..

How much more can ATMOS add to de overall 5.1/7.1 experience or to be more exact - is it worth de xtra cost/hassle to add de xtra spkrs wif just de 5.1/7.1 experience?? Ask yourself tat question when/if u wanna upgrd just for ATMOS sake..

I tink if you are starting to plan for a dedicated room, then only consider ATMOS - othr than tat - its just too much hassle for just a little bit more..

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post May 13 2015, 04:30 PM

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That's the thing. I am moving to a new house which I will use the family area as a home theater room. So no issue having a speaker on the ceiling. In fact I think possible more room on the ceiling rather additional side speakers. Just wondering which is the better option. Anyone knows how roughly the cost for Monitor Audio CT265 or Monitor Audio Silver 1/2?
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post May 13 2015, 04:46 PM

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QUOTE(K4iz3n @ May 13 2015, 04:30 PM)
That's the thing. I am moving to a new house which I will use the family area as a home theater room. So no issue having a speaker on the ceiling. In fact I think possible more room on the ceiling rather additional side speakers. Just wondering which is the better option. Anyone knows how roughly the cost for Monitor Audio CT265 or Monitor Audio Silver 1/2?
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I ll consider 7.2.2 or even 7.4.2 - remember you will need amplification for de xtra channels [ n not all avrs provide it, maybe nxt genre sets might.. ; so need to consider tat too ]
Oso u dont have to go ceiling spkrs ; height/diffuse channels are ATMOS compliant too [ proper ceiling spkrs would need proper dual driver and tis is harder to fix up on a plaster ceiling ; if its me, lll go height/diffuse channels with maybe, satts - it wont be playing all de time anyway.. ]

O ya.. After all is said n done, in a HT.. a decent sub [or 2] has more impact then 4/6/8 ceiling spkrs..

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post May 13 2015, 09:29 PM

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Is it necessary to have same length of wire for our speaker,example one side need 20feet the other side 17feet n is it we have to make 20feet per side or just fpllow the measurement.

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post May 13 2015, 09:49 PM

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Is always recommended to have same length
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post May 14 2015, 12:09 AM

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None of my cable are the same length.
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post May 14 2015, 12:11 AM

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QUOTE(dirtrun @ May 13 2015, 04:46 PM)
Then,

I ll consider 7.2.2 or even 7.4.2 - remember you will need amplification for de xtra channels [ n not all avrs provide it, maybe nxt genre sets might.. ; so need to consider tat too ]
Oso u dont have to go ceiling spkrs ; height/diffuse channels are ATMOS compliant too [ proper ceiling spkrs would need proper dual driver and tis is harder to fix up on a plaster ceiling ; if its me, lll go height/diffuse channels with maybe, satts - it wont be playing all de time anyway.. ]

O ya.. After all is said n done, in a HT.. a decent sub [or 2] has more impact then 4/6/8 ceiling spkrs..

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post May 14 2015, 08:00 AM

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QUOTE(dirtrun @ May 13 2015, 04:46 PM)
Then,

I ll consider 7.2.2 or even 7.4.2 - remember you will need amplification for de xtra channels [ n not all avrs provide it, maybe nxt genre sets might.. ; so need to consider tat too ]
Oso u dont have to go ceiling spkrs ; height/diffuse channels are ATMOS compliant too [ proper ceiling spkrs would need proper dual driver and tis is harder to fix up on a plaster ceiling ; if its me, lll go height/diffuse channels with maybe, satts - it wont be playing all de time anyway.. ]

O ya.. After all is said n done, in a HT.. a decent sub [or 2] has more impact then 4/6/8 ceiling spkrs..

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SATMOS with ceiling speakers on the front and center will be introduced soon with 17.2, then change the AVR again whistling.gif
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QUOTE(K4iz3n @ May 14 2015, 12:11 AM)
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LOL,

Then why even consider ATMOS.. Do you really tink itll make a LOT of diffference???

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post May 14 2015, 03:50 PM

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Can i put small bookself speaker as surround, like monitor audio brand spk.

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post May 14 2015, 04:43 PM

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QUOTE(dirtrun @ May 13 2015, 04:46 PM)
proper ceiling spkrs would need proper dual driver and tis is harder to fix up on a plaster ceiling
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could you pls clarify on the underlined part? are you depending on the plaster ceiling to fully support the weight on the speakers?

QUOTE(Dickong @ May 13 2015, 09:29 PM)
Is it necessary to have same length of wire for our speaker,example one side need 20feet the other side 17feet n is it we have to make 20feet per side or just fpllow the measurement.
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having the same length is moot because AVR/prepro has speaker distance and spl adjustment.... unless you're using pure direct signal on hifi components with zero processing.
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post May 15 2015, 07:28 AM

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Playing 5.1.2 on atmos normally using front or rear presence.
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QUOTE(Dickong @ May 13 2015, 09:29 PM)
Is it necessary to have same length of wire for our speaker,example one side need 20feet the other side 17feet n is it we have to make 20feet per side or just fpllow the measurement.
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few feet do not have impact, unless you run into 10s of feet with thin cables maybe yes, if thick its really can't tell the difference.
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post May 15 2015, 09:59 AM

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QUOTE(Skylinestar @ May 14 2015, 04:43 PM)
could you pls clarify on the underlined part? are you depending on the plaster ceiling to fully support the weight on the speakers?
having the same length is moot because AVR/prepro has speaker distance and spl adjustment.... unless you're using pure direct signal on hifi components with zero processing.
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I am speaking solely from a DIY perspective .. not an issue if your project is done by pros ...

But... Personally, I prefer side wall mounting over ceiling - even if its done by somebody else..

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post May 15 2015, 11:49 AM

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Wall mounting give the feel of sound as from height. Mounting on ceiling give you the sound of over head, that is what atmos is all about. Surround of height does not require atmos.
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QUOTE(Dickong @ May 14 2015, 03:50 PM)
Can i put small bookself speaker as surround, like monitor audio brand spk.
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In a word, yes.

Goto:

Monitor Audio Radius

They actually use the Gold series tweeter in these solidly made small speakers, sound is EXCELLENT for a surround speaker, but the cost.....

Do note that sound preference is subjective.

What I think is FANTASTIC might be MEH to another people...

Try before you buy.

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post May 17 2015, 10:35 PM

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Actually do we really need good spk for atmos. The atmos spk design is like car stereo spk been thinking of getting the car spk n try and see whether got difference
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QUOTE(Dickong @ May 17 2015, 10:35 PM)
Actually do we really need good spk for atmos. The atmos spk design is like car stereo spk been thinking of getting the car spk n try and see whether got difference
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Not a bad idea..

Other than tonal signature and power-hungry [ some is 4 ohm ; if not mistaken ] .. Pros are tat car speakers are actually easier to ceiling mount cos of its design ; and its an effects channel ; meaning it will be utilised maybe 10% of de time and mainly for bangs/whoosh/booms..

Me - lll still get a cheap-used-smallish-bkshlv n wall-mt it n point it away for its ambience effect..

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post May 20 2015, 10:41 AM

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QUOTE(dirtrun @ May 18 2015, 05:18 PM)
Not a bad idea..

Other than tonal signature and power-hungry [ some is 4 ohm ; if not mistaken ] .. Pros are tat car speakers are actually easier to ceiling mount cos of its design ; and its an effects channel ; meaning it will be utilised maybe 10% of de time and mainly for bangs/whoosh/booms..

Me - lll still get a cheap-used-smallish-bkshlv n wall-mt it n point it away for its ambience effect..

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You are right bro.most branded car spk are 4ohm. Anyway got myself a monitor audio bookself spk as surround n the sound is anytime better than original surrounf spk.

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What model of MA you got ?

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