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post Sep 19 2009, 11:39 PM, updated 4y ago

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Link to v1 : http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/632630
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post Sep 20 2009, 12:49 AM

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congratz V2
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post Sep 20 2009, 12:54 AM

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congrats on V2... rclxms.gif rclxms.gif
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post Sep 20 2009, 02:11 AM

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Yay, it's V2.

I might be setting up a 2nd HT system using my 1800. A bit sayang to sell it off since it is a good avr.
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post Sep 20 2009, 02:32 AM

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Any suggestion on Yamaha HT set, if with a RM3000 +/- budget?
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post Sep 20 2009, 09:37 AM

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QUOTE(jchong @ Sep 19 2009, 11:04 AM)

Added on September 19, 2009, 11:11 am
For Pure Direct / Pure Audio, sometimes the AVR can use the LFE channel if you choose the 5.1 audio track (this will depend on your AVR brand). Like when I listen to Michael Buble BD, if I choose the 5.1 audio and use Pure Audio I will get some LFE (but the same as if I turn off Pure Audio).
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yes broither, have tried pure direct/audio on movies and concerts also too, for my case the sonics is very good too ( have to set the LFE out to SWR & MAIN) but still missing the feel of something ( bottom end smile.gif ) AS i say the LFE is not activated, still rclxub.gif why yammy disable this feature vmad.gif
so denon and onkyo does output LFE on Pure audio. rclxms.gif
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post Sep 20 2009, 01:07 PM

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QUOTE(htkaki @ Sep 20 2009, 02:11 AM)
Yay, it's V2.

I might be setting up a 2nd HT system using my 1800. A bit sayang to sell it off since it is a good avr.
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How much diid you let go your 1800? wink.gif


Added on September 20, 2009, 1:16 pm
QUOTE(moomoos @ Sep 20 2009, 09:37 AM)
yes broither, have tried pure direct/audio on movies and concerts also too, for my case the sonics is very good too ( have to set the LFE out to SWR & MAIN) but still missing the feel of something ( bottom end  smile.gif ) AS i say the LFE is not activated, still  rclxub.gif  why yammy disable this feature vmad.gif
so denon and onkyo does output LFE on Pure audio. rclxms.gif
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Bro, I thought pure direct/audio is for 2 channel listening only minus LFE. If you want LFE, just switch it to stereo. I don't think other brand avr will output LFE when they are in pure direct mode. wink.gif

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post Sep 20 2009, 01:35 PM

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QUOTE(moviebuff @ Sep 20 2009, 01:07 PM)
Bro, I thought pure direct/audio is for 2 channel listening only minus LFE. If you want LFE, just switch it to stereo. I don't think other brand avr will output LFE when they are in pure direct mode. wink.gif
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In my Onkyo, Pure Audio mode can utilise the other channels if your source material is multi channel. So if I enable 5.1 audio I will get some LFE and even surround sounds in Pure Audio mode.

So what's the benefit of Pure Audio mode then? I believe all the EQ, bass management and other audio processing is turned off.
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post Sep 20 2009, 03:50 PM

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In Pure audio mode, av amp just amplifly the sound from the source player, it is best to use this mode to test CD players..in my opinion.
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post Sep 20 2009, 04:29 PM

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QUOTE(moviebuff @ Sep 20 2009, 01:07 PM)
How much diid you let go your 1800? wink.gif


Added on September 20, 2009, 1:16 pm

Bro, I thought pure direct/audio is for 2 channel listening only minus LFE. If you want LFE, just switch it to stereo. I don't think other brand avr will output LFE when they are in pure direct mode. wink.gif
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QUOTE(jchong @ Sep 20 2009, 01:35 PM)
In my Onkyo, Pure Audio mode can utilise the other channels if your source material is multi channel. So if I enable 5.1 audio I will get some LFE and even surround sounds in Pure Audio mode.

So what's the benefit of Pure Audio mode then? I believe all the EQ, bass management and other audio processing is turned off.
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QUOTE(piscesguy @ Sep 20 2009, 03:50 PM)
In Pure audio mode, av amp just amplifly the sound from the source player, it is best to use this mode to test CD players..in my opinion.
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Its really a set back that Yammy AVR disable LFE on pure direct (yammy term) pure audio ( onkyo & maybe others )
as far as i know Denon does activate LFE,

Yes pure direct is mainly for CD playback ( to maintain the purest audio path like normal Amps) bypassing AVR's DSP, even the display will dim off completely, ( try it out , you really get better separation, depth, ) it is.... a totally another level of listening pleasure whistling.gif

yammy does do pure direct on multichannels too, it will just bypass all processing and output to respective speakers.. not bad tho..
in fact if you use True HD, DTS HD/MA modes you are also using unprocessed modes (as compared to DSP concert. movie theather, Hall ) signals are also bypassed but amplified in a different way, ( its the exact soundfield the recording engineers/directors wanted us to hear)

so if you want to use pure direct mode on yammy (unless yammy engineers rectify it) make sure you go with Floorstand or fullrange speakers for your mains, or otherwise if you use satellites pair it with an additional sub.

those ppl who are not that audiophile fussy, just use stereo, or straight mode, you will be very happy with the sound rclxms.gif

This post has been edited by moomoos: Sep 20 2009, 05:18 PM
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post Sep 21 2009, 01:44 PM

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If u have good CDP then Pure Direct really bring out the excellence in 24-bit CD. It's like comparing BD and DVD.
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post Sep 21 2009, 02:49 PM

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Guys... how much is the Z7?
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post Sep 21 2009, 03:11 PM

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probably abt rm15k mark.
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post Sep 21 2009, 03:36 PM

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Hmm.... I thought around 10k range because it only retails at 2.7k USD sweat.gif
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post Sep 21 2009, 03:39 PM

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QUOTE(kianwee @ Sep 21 2009, 03:36 PM)
Hmm.... I thought around 10k range because it only retails at 2.7k USD sweat.gif
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biasa la.. tambah 30% more to RRP.. biggrin.gif
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post Sep 21 2009, 03:46 PM

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Geng hor.... earn less here yet have to pay more biggrin.gif

Malangsial memang boleh.
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QUOTE(kianwee @ Sep 21 2009, 03:46 PM)
Geng hor.... earn less here yet have to pay more biggrin.gif

Malangsial memang boleh.
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I think got higher tax for these products and also middleman make more mah compared to people like newegg/crutchfield/amazon etc....
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post Sep 21 2009, 05:25 PM

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QUOTE(kianwee @ Sep 21 2009, 03:46 PM)
Geng hor.... earn less here yet have to pay more biggrin.gif

Malangsial memang boleh.
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Yeah, we Malaysians are getting a bum deal on AV equipment here... sad.gif
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post Sep 21 2009, 10:58 PM

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QUOTE(jchong @ Sep 21 2009, 05:25 PM)
Yeah, we Malaysians are getting a bum deal on AV equipment here...  sad.gif
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not only AV equipment
car also vmad.gif
tax us kao kao, all gone into their pocket in the name of 'development' mad.gif
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post Sep 21 2009, 11:00 PM

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QUOTE(jchong @ Sep 21 2009, 05:25 PM)
Yeah, we Malaysians are getting a bum deal on AV equipment here...  sad.gif
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But still got elite driving Lamborghini and Ferrari everywhere. sweat.gif

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