2000euro
I can get better(in terms of price) from it

Europe usually higher price. Some item the euro and USD are samebl amount different currency.

I believe the way they designed their sound file to use the speakers to project the sound up... Don't ask me how they did it. They did it. The difference is heaven and earth... Hearing is believing.

This post has been edited by Mov_freak: May 9 2015, 07:14 PM

what do you aspect,its a flagship avr

In AVR pioneer is still the leading one in high end no doubt about it

For rm8-9k, getting a decent 7.2 then getting better speakers would be better.

Some other brand's mid range level are better than it

Most of the time a review done based on a person's subjective point of view. Like Jeresy Dickson's rubbish talk show I never watch as that jerk are biased to who ever paid him well.

Please share. which models (with multi-ch input, powerful amps, yet cheaper) are better than LX87?? yamaha A3030?

This post has been edited by Skylinestar: May 10 2015, 11:29 AM

I had used Yamaha and pioneer before. Personally pioneer is better in high end AVR. Yammy is more value for money

Marantz, Denon.
And nope, I won't get A3030 because of its remote.
Had very bad experience with my VSX-816, very easy to fail.

For atmos spk can just buy front spk n hang up or not bcos i see not much different between atmos spk n front bookself spk.

Keep the atmos behind, by changing the direct of the speaker, you will hear the difference.
Or to make it more work, just use your front speakers as rear speakers and the effect are totally different.

Using in ceiling speaker will be suitable for atmos or DTS x

for new surround format you need discreet(ceiling) speaker to really2 works,if not its just crap..

I have try testing with cheap small front spk n hang it on the ceiling n it works but i might be testing it with small bookself n hang it at the ceiling i think its as good as inside the ceiling spk or even better

U mean denon 4520 and marantz 7008?
Other than the remote issue, how's a3030?

Time for v3

Well, I own Marantz 5007 and say it is value for money that I paid for.
I won't get 7008, but 7007, cheaper.
As for A3030, never personally tested it, but remote with LCD display are not a good idea to begin with.

Well unless you mount your bookshelf like ceiling if not is still is front height

Ya i hang it at the ceiling but have to look for good bracket to hold the spk if not bookself spk is quuet heavy. Any recommendation for the bracket. The bracket from one end is screw to the ceiling n another to the spk.

Go to amcorp mall to shop for that. Have few shops there selling