Published: Friday February 11, 2011 MYT 8:47:00 PM

Non-objection certs for studies in Egypt put on hold

KUCHING: The Higher Education Department has temporarily frozen the issuance of Non-Objection Certificate (NOC) to new students wanting to pursue their studies in Egypt.

Minister Datuk Seri Mohamed Khaled Nordin said the move was part of the department's efforts to re-evaluate the quality of courses offered by several universities in Egypt, besides the appalling lax in security there.

"Right now, we are freezing the issuance of the NOC and the department will send its officials to Egypt soon to re-evaluate the quality of courses offered by several universities there, especially in the faculty of medicine," he told reporters.

He was commenting on developments involving Malaysian students who had to postpone their studies, following the political unrest in Egypt.

He said the department's officials would also convene discussions with the relevant universities in Egypt on the possibility of allowing the students to temporarily continue their studies at local universities in Malaysia.

About 5,000 out of 11,000 Malaysian students in Egypt are studying medicine.

during my secondary school time, one of my teachers told me that Egypt offered the best medical education in the world. i hope she will also read the news.

during my secondary school time, one of my teachers told me that Egypt offered the best medical education in the world. i hope she will also read the news.

I do know much about Egypt medical education but I have a feeling that teacher of yours may be an idiot.

during my secondary school time, one of my teachers told me that Egypt offered the best medical education in the world. i hope she will also read the news.

This teacher is talking about "best medical education in the world". She is comparing it to Harvard and Oxford and Melbourne etc and not our own newer private universities. I still stand by my feeling this teacher is probably an idiot or a frog in a world who have never seen the real world.

Pelajar luar negara akui kurang latihan praktikal


Oleh S Anand Kumar
anand@bharian.com.my
2011/02/17


Hanya banyak belajar teori punca ramai doktor tidak cekap

KUALA LUMPUR: Pelajar Malaysia yang sedang mengikuti pengajian perubatan di beberapa universiti di luar negara mendedahkan mereka lebih banyak mempelajari teori, manakala latihan praktikal amat berkurangan.

Sebilangan besar komen yang diterima dalam Berita Harian Online (BH Online) berhubung isu doktor pelatih tidak cekap dan kompeten, berkata keadaan itu menyebabkan mereka tidak dapat menjalankan kemahiran klinikal secara sempurna.

“Kami tidak dibenarkan untuk menyentuh pesakit, sedangkan di Malaysia perkara itu menjadi satu keperluan untuk pelajar perubatan. Kami banyak belajar teori saja tetapi dari segi praktikal amat kurang.

“Tambahan pula Majlis Perubatan Malaysia (MMC) mewajibkan pelajar untuk melakukan praktikal mengikut negara masing-masing, maka tidak hairanlah mengapa timbul masalah ketika ‘housemanship’.

“Oleh itu, kami sangat berharap kerajaan dan MMC mengambil tindakan yang sewajarnya bagi membela nasib kami di perantauan ini,” katanya yang hanya mahu dikenali sebagai bakal doktor.

Seorang lagi pelajar yang memperkenalkan diri sebagai ‘pelajar perubatan Russia’, merayu kerajaan supaya tidak lagi menghantar pelajar tempatan ke negara itu kerana mendakwa mutu dan kualiti pembelajaran di negara itu amat rendah.

“Mereka hanya mementingkan wang... adalah tidak wajar salahkan kami seratus peratus sekiranya kami kurang cekap ketika menjalani ‘housemanship,” katanya.

Pelajar yang mahu dikenali sebagai studentmedic dalam komennya berkata, pemantauan pelajar perubatan tempatan di luar negara harus dilakukan secara berterusan dengan lebih tertumpu kepada latihan praktikal.

“Kami tidak dibenarkan membuat latihan amali di hospital di Malaysia dan pada masa sama, kami tidak dibenarkan menyentuh pesakit di negara pengajian kami atas alasan kami pelajar asing.

“Jadi bagaimana dengan hanya berbekalkan teori semata-mata tanpa praktikal sewajarnya dapat menjanjikan kemahiran klinikal yang sempurna,” katanya.

Sementara itu, seorang ibu dalam komennya mendakwa anaknya memaklumkan universiti tempatnya belajar di Russia agak ketinggalan berbanding kemajuan yang dicapai Malaysia.

Beliau mempersoalkan mengapa Majlis Amanah Rakyat (MARA) menghantar pelajar tajaannya ke negara berkenaan.

“Menurut anak saya Russia umpama 10 tahun kebelakang daripada Malaysia.

“Persoalannya mengapa pelajar yang cemerlang ini harus menerima latihan di negara yang standardnya amat rendah... saya berasa sangat simpati apabila anak saya menyuarakan kemungkinan penguasaan bahasa Inggeris mereka juga semakin berkurangan.

“Ini kerana terpaksa berkomunikasi dengan pensyarah yang tidak fasih bahasa Inggeris kerana mereka sangat bangga dengan bahasa ibunda mereka,” katanya.

http://www.bharian.com.my/bharian/articles...aktikal/Article

pretty fukked-up...

oh goodness gracious x.x I've heard from people that in Russia, there're 2 different bunch of lecturers: one bunch to teach international students, and the more prestigious ones teaching their own students. not sure how true is that.

anyone know why my waist suddenly hurt?

btw its not osteoporosis

anyone know why my waist suddenly hurt?
btw its not osteoporosis

anyone know why my waist suddenly hurt?

btw its not osteoporosis

Pity the high achievers who have been dumped into half past six foreign universities who are now complaining that it is totally a wastage of monies.

Originally, most of the elite students are sent to good medical schools in UK, Australia and India but the numbers returning back after 1 year has put the gomen in a dilemma.

So to make sure that the projected numbers of graduate doctors are met, some realignment were made to place them in more user-friendly universities overseas to meet the "overseas graduates" quota.

The gomen has to bite the bullet and placed them in some of the second tier local medical colleges rather than putting them in 'scandalous universities" overseas.

You mean these student couldn't pass their examinations? Where did you get this info?