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post Aug 24 2009, 12:45 PM, updated 17y ago

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Fixture (2009/10):
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August
15  Sat Barclays Premier League  A  Everton  6  1
18  Tue UEFA Champions League  A  Celtic  2-0
22  Sat Barclays Premier League  H  Portsmouth 4-1
26  Wed UEFA Champions League  H  Celtic  3-1
29  Sat Barclays Premier League  A  Manchester United  17:15

September
12  Sat Barclays Premier League  A  Manchester City  15:00
15/16 UEFA Champions League  N  Matchday 1  19:45 
19  Sat Barclays Premier League  H  Wigan Athletic  15:00
23  Wed Carling Cup  N  Round 3
26  Sat Barclays Premier League  A  Fulham  17:30
29/30 UEFA Champions League  N  Matchday 2  19:45
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All the above are according to UK time

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UK-based sports sites:
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or follow good quality arsenal blogs which often have good insight and fan-written articles:
Arseblog ( http://www.oleole.com/blogs/arseblog ) - good old drunken arseblogger who swears at anything that's not arsenal
A Cultured Left Foot ( http://aculturedleftfoot.wordpress.com/ )- decent writeup and opinions
Gunnerblog ( http://gunnerblog.com/ ) - same as above
Goodplaya ( http://goodplaya.com/ )- probably the most accurate player analysis after a match
3rd Gen ( http://www.third-gen.com/ )- pretty good too
Arsenal Insider ( http://www.arsenalinsider.com/ )- very pro-Arsene site, but many good articles to read... great weekly TGIF, but not sure whether they still do it or not
Untold Arsenal ( http://blog.emiratesstadium.info/ )- My newest favourite arsenal site written by a die-hard old school gooner
http://www.goonernews.com - all-in-one Arsenal news web
http://arsenalist.com/ - for replays and highlights
http://myarsenalvlog.blogspot.com/ - for videos and highlights
http://arsenalanalysis.blogspot.com - technical analysis on Arsenal

For news and progress about the kids, try
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Arsenal Youth ( http://arsenalyouth.wordpress.com/ )
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The Emotional Highbury and The Grand Ashburton Grove

Highbury 1913-2006

For the majority of their time in south-east London, Arsenal played at the Manor Ground in Plumstead, a three-year period at the nearby Invicta Ground between 1890 and 1893 excepted. The Manor Ground was initially just a field, but the club installed stands and terracing in time for their first Football League match in September 1893. They played their home games there for the next twenty years (with two exceptions in 1894�95), until the move to north London in 1913.

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Arsenal Stadium, widely referred to as Highbury, was Arsenal's home from September 1913 until May 2006. The original stadium was designed by the renowned football architect Archibald Leitch, and had a design common to many football grounds in the UK at the time, with a single covered stand and three open-air banks of terracing. In the 1930s, the entire stadium was given a massive overhaul, with new Art Deco West and East stands constructed, opening in 1932 and 1936 respectively; in addition, the North Bank terrace had a roof added, which was later bombed during World War II and not restored until 1956.

At its peak, Highbury could hold over 60,000 spectators, and had a capacity of 57,000 until the early 1990s. The Taylor Report and Premier League regulations forced Arsenal to convert Highbury into an all-seater in time for the 1993�94 season, reducing the capacity to 38,419 seated spectators. This capacity had to be reduced further during Champions League matches to accommodate additional advertising hoardings, so much so that for two seasons (1998�99 and 1999�00) Arsenal played Champions League home matches at Wembley, which could house more than 70,000 spectators.

Final moments - the emotions run high in Highbury

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Ashburton Grove 2007-present

Expansion of Highbury was restricted because the East Stand had been designated as a Grade II listed building and the other three stands were close to residential properties. These limitations have prevented the club from maximising the revenue that their domestic form could have brought in recent seasons. After considering various options, in 2000 Arsenal proposed building a new 60,000-seater stadium at Ashburton Grove, since renamed the Emirates Stadium, about 500 metres south-west of Highbury. The project was initially delayed by red tape and rising costs, but construction was completed in July 2006, in time for the start of the 2006�07 season. The stadium is named after its sponsors, the airline company Emirates, with whom the club signed the largest sponsorship deal in English football history, worth approximately �100 million; however some fans refer to the ground as Ashburton Grove, or the Grove, as they do not agree with corporate sponsorship of stadium names.The stadium will be officially known as Emirates Stadium until at least 2012, and the airline will be the club's shirt sponsor until the end of the 2013�14 season.

Construction and completion of the Ashburton Grove

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Some of previous thread's last posts :

QUOTE(lostasylum @ Aug 24 2009, 11:03 AM)
i disagree with point 6 and agree with point 8.

for point 6, although stats may show that he's been doing the same old thing, i feel that his play this season in a 4-3-3 formation is more incisive and the passes more penetrating. last season, he was still making the same number of passes, but they didn't really provide the bite that we needed. i suppose that's why the denilson skeptics always say that his passes are just sideways. in the game against pompey, he was less outstanding, but that's probably he had to do a lot more defensive work to do since song wasn't playing and diaby is very attacking minded. but still, the passes were simple, and he wasn't trying too hard.

as for point 8, i really have to agree about the one touch too many that slows down the midfield, and also the fact that his defensive workrate just ain't good enough... that's why although i would readily agree that diaby is capable of great goals (like the 2 he scored against pompey), i still remain a diaby skeptic.

as for the goal, i blame almunia mostly for the goal. in football, the player must move forward to receive the pass. otherwise, an opposing player may be able to take the ball of your feel before it reaches you. similarly for goalies, they must go forward to collect the ball in the air. in this case, almunia had a clear view of the flight of the ball. however, i think he took it for granted that he was alone, not expecting ex spurs reject kaboul go pop up in front of him. so i think it was just a lack of focus / concentration. and this is what pundits always talk about for a top team goalie. they will not have much to do in a game at times, but they never lose focus and concentration so that when they are called upon, they are able to deliver. almunia is a good goalie, but goals like these will make or break our season when playing against top teams. hopefully this is just a blip.

anyways, all responses are constructive in nature, so i hope it will be taken in that manner... =)
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QUOTE(realman @ Aug 24 2009, 11:34 AM)
We need Cesc not only for man u game...but more importantly against man Sh**y game...
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QUOTE(sakaito @ Aug 24 2009, 11:45 AM)
vagine..

it'll be ramsey.. not diaby.
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QUOTE(Vagine @ Aug 24 2009, 11:59 AM)
ramsey stepping in? lol sry coz i need to ask arsenal fans for fantasy football:p was thinking either song diaby or ramsey. how bout wilshere?
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QUOTE(sigheart @ Aug 24 2009, 12:10 PM)
Diaby will most likely be replacing Cesc if Cesc is out. With the way Arsene was praising Diaby about how similar he is to Vieira and how this could be his year post match Pompey I'm guessing he is almost a dead cert to start the Man Utd game. In fact I think Diaby will start even if Cesc is fit. Wenger has always been known to field lineups with the intention of controlling the midfield in difficult and probably physical away games such as Man Utd at Old Trafford.

Probable lineups IMO.

With Cesc:

-----------------Van Persie-------------------

Diaby---------------------------------Arshavin

-----------Denilson-------Fabregas-----------

--------------------Song------------------------

Clichy----Vermaelen----Gallas--------Sagna

-------------------Almunia----------------------
Without Cesc:

-----------------Van Persie-------------------

Arshavin------------------------------Bendtner

------------Diaby-------Denilson-------------

--------------------Song------------------------

Clichy----Vermaelen----Gallas--------Sagna

-------------------Almunia----------------------
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Eduardo?
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still waiting.. hwat the arsenal lineup when meets celtic
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QUOTE(Tanakwagu_noh @ Aug 24 2009, 01:07 PM)
Eduardo?
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I don't know but Arshavin doesn't look so comfortable on the left. He seems more deadly through the center
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yerp agree.. arshavin seems dunno what to do.. uhuhu
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I believe Arshavin is still adapting to his role on the left. He might be more versatile in the center but with his quality, I believe he'll be well in his role about now. Celtic would be another crucial mid-week match before ManU on Sat. Hopefully we will be able to rest one or two key players after 1 hour of the match as we need fresh legs for the big game.

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agreed. for me eduardo look the most likely to do something in the flanks. weirdly enough, the two true strikers, eduardo and bendtner had looked the most impressive playing in the flank.
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arshavin has showed us in the last few games that he got what it takes. just a matter of time before he explode. wink.gif
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arshavin get 4 goal in anfield last season from left side..
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QUOTE(sakaito @ Aug 24 2009, 02:26 PM)
arshavin has showed us in the last few games that he got what it takes. just a matter of time before he explode. wink.gif
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Exactly. It's calm before before the storm. His fury will be unleashed against MU and Dubai City.
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arshavin - bendtner -rvp
-----diaby---- denilson---
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clicy--gallas-tv----sagna-

i believe song, arshavin and bedtner will b sub out
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QUOTE(Tanakwagu_noh @ Aug 24 2009, 01:07 PM)
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I doubt Eduardo at the moment is regarded as a starter by Arsene. Arsene has already shown us who he thinks is his strongest 11 in 2 matches out of a handful of our most important matches, Our first match against Everton, and the Celtic 1st leg IMO

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QUOTE(sigheart @ Aug 24 2009, 03:37 PM)
I doubt Eduardo at the moment is regarded as a starter by Arsene. Arsene has already shown us who he thinks is his strongest 11 in 2 matches out of a handful of our most important matches, Our first match against Everton, and the Celtic 1st leg IMO
Portsmouth game may have changed that. Eduardo was very lively on the left flank. Bendtner to me is a 1st 11. Wenger likes to have a tall forward to catch the long balls. Maybe Arshavin can play at the expense of Diaby (sub in later).
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Arshavin has proven his capability on left flank last season, I don't find it hard for him to repeat the feat this season. Just give some time, he will find his form back on the left.

Contradictory, I think AW will do it slowly on playing Eduardo frequently. No doubt he has made impact in his few substitutions, so why not continue in that way? This is similar to Walcott case last season, being an effective subs is a good news smile.gif

In order to keep the consistency, AW will make minimum changes. Diaby will most likely to cover Fabregas' absent (or rest) in Celtic game with others remain the same - although I'm still in doubt on the fullback positions hmm.gif - any insight on this?
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was clichy being rested last week against portsmouth?

coz having kieran gibbs and arshavin on the left flank did leave some holes on our left side for Piquionne to exploit with his pace and he very nearly did take advantage on a few occasions.

the main agenda for the celtic game i think would to be for us to get an early goal or 2 since we are at home then rest players after we have secured the result so that we dont accumulate more injuries doh.gif and have fresher legs to kick the manchesters smile.gif
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QUOTE(kimhoong @ Aug 24 2009, 04:30 PM)
In order to keep the consistency, AW will make minimum changes. Diaby will most likely to cover Fabregas' absent (or rest) in Celtic game with others remain the same - although I'm still in doubt on the fullback positions hmm.gif - any insight on this?
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Sagna and Clichy please. Can't afford to be overconfident. They have Mat Giddy tongue.gif
And I want to see attacking football as usual. Maybe an early goal or 2 to kill their motivation. I hope Wenger don't plan to absorb their attacks with 4-5-1. At least not from the kick-off.
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with current arsenal form...i think should not be a problem dealing with celtic..
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QUOTE(mybiebie @ Aug 24 2009, 04:53 PM)
with current arsenal form...i think should not be a problem dealing with celtic..
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and thats exactly how complacency kicks in smile.gif
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Is AW want to make any last minute signing? still have less a week to bring out someone lol...

Please la no more injury especially keyplayers. Hope Rosicky can play for the next 2 match.
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QUOTE(lostasylum @ Aug 24 2009, 11:03 AM)
i disagree with point 6 and agree with point 8.

for point 6, although stats may show that he's been doing the same old thing, i feel that his play this season in a 4-3-3 formation is more incisive and the passes more penetrating. last season, he was still making the same number of passes, but they didn't really provide the bite that we needed. i suppose that's why the denilson skeptics always say that his passes are just sideways. in the game against pompey, he was less outstanding, but that's probably he had to do a lot more defensive work to do since song wasn't playing and diaby is very attacking minded. but still, the passes were simple, and he wasn't trying too hard.

as for point 8, i really have to agree about the one touch too many that slows down the midfield, and also the fact that his defensive workrate just ain't good enough... that's why although i would readily agree that diaby is capable of great goals (like the 2 he scored against pompey), i still remain a diaby skeptic.

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I was never bothered by the "sideways passing" comments about Denilson as I believe it's a myth similar to his "lack of physique" and "lack of height" to play in the DM position. Towards the end of last season he has been acting as the midfield link man who collects the ball and spreads it to the other players eg Fabs or the other flank players, and he is doing it in a consistent and simple way. Hence my "typical Denilson" comment which is more of a compliment than a criticism.

Diaby... the jury is still out but credit should be given as he did impress vs Pompey despite the minor complaints which we agree upon. Abou needs to be consistent and avoid injuries before he can start thinking of securing a starting lineup position. Song will be absent during early next year due to ACN so if Diaby manages to keep up the good work he might just give Song a run for his money.

Now this is hilarious...
http://www.football365.com/story/0,17033,8...5510765,00.html
Replays clearly show that Utaka's right foot got tangled with his left shin and he tripped on his own, whereas Gallas never even touched him. Since it is from "The Sun" which are more often dodgy than not, I'd give Utaka the benefit of doubt. But if he really claimed that it was Gallas's fault than I'd lose all respect for him.
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QUOTE(meaj @ Aug 24 2009, 04:43 PM)
Sagna and Clichy please. Can't afford to be overconfident. They have Mat Giddy  tongue.gif
And I want to see attacking football as usual. Maybe an early goal or 2 to kill their motivation. I hope Wenger don't plan to absorb their attacks with 4-5-1. At least not from the kick-off.
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Not to say over confident, with 2 away goals. I guess this tie is not going to a hard one. But I do agree Arsenal should adopt an attacking strategy. This is because attack is the best defence.

I predict Gallas to score with his hands this time? tongue.gif
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QUOTE(kimhoong @ Aug 24 2009, 04:30 PM)
Arshavin has proven his capability on left flank last season, I don't find it hard for him to repeat the feat this season. Just give some time, he will find his form back on the left.

Contradictory, I think AW will do it slowly on playing Eduardo frequently. No doubt he has made impact in his few substitutions, so why not continue in that way? This is similar to Walcott case last season, being an effective subs is a good news smile.gif

In order to keep the consistency, AW will make minimum changes. Diaby will most likely to cover Fabregas' absent (or rest) in Celtic game with others remain the same - although I'm still in doubt on the fullback positions hmm.gif - any insight on this?
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I'm predicting a very strong squad against Celtic. We will see most of the players sitting out the Portsmouth game return bar a few. 2-0 is by no means a big lead to be honest. Certainly a mountain to climb for Celtic, but not impossible and Arsene knows that. A first goal from Celtic changes everything. Strong squad early on and depending on the situation we will see our key players being subbed out probably around the 65th or 70th minute mark.
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for our boss, CL is priority at this stage of the season. hence i'm very confident that we will see the best team available playing in the match against Celtic
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True true, qualifying in CL Final stage is more important than MU match to be honest.

To balance out the two matches, AW should field the strongest squad for Celtic encounter and sub out three important players when the match is heading to an obvious result smile.gif
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That would be Van Persie, Vermaelen, Fabregas (if he plays), Arshavin...
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I think AW would not risk Cesc. It not about the game with Man Utd's but its for Arsenal's season.
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QUOTE(StarGhazzer @ Aug 24 2009, 05:21 PM)
Now this is hilarious...
http://www.football365.com/story/0,17033,8...5510765,00.html
Replays clearly show that Utaka's right foot got tangled with his left shin and he tripped on his own, whereas Gallas never even touched him. Since it is from "The Sun" which are more often dodgy than not, I'd give Utaka the benefit of doubt. But if he really claimed that it was Gallas's fault than I'd lose all respect for him.
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lol, Maybe Utaka forgot there are video replays now adays.

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seems like cesc still not fit yet. i dont really mind for the celtic game, i am not being complacent or what, its just... u guys saw how celtic played last week? rough. i dont fance playing cesc there.. hopefully he will be fit for mu cozz we need him against mu!
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i think AW should rest cesc. His hamstring has been acting up ever since preseason. So, i don't think it's easy but it's necessary to rest him. Let him rest the next few weeks.

I think if Ramsey and Diaby can be consistent, i don't see why not rest cesc. I think Denilson, Song and Diaby combo is something we haven't seen yet and certainly there's an element of surprise there. Ramsey also could cover for cesc but his lack of experience could be exploited by the likes of carrick/scholes/fletcher and ireland/robinho.

all in all.. i think Wednesday's game is the most crucial to get thru to the group stages. ManU is just another league game and i don't mind if we lost to the at OT. It's not easy playing there anyway.


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QUOTE(sakaito @ Aug 24 2009, 06:40 PM)
i think AW should rest cesc. His hamstring has been acting up ever since preseason. So, i don't think it's easy but it's necessary to rest him. Let him rest the next few weeks.

I think if Ramsey and Diaby can be consistent, i don't see why not rest cesc. I think Denilson, Song and Diaby combo is something we haven't seen yet and certainly there's an element of surprise there. Ramsey also could cover for cesc but his lack of experience could be exploited by the likes of carrick/scholes/fletcher and ireland/robinho.

all in all.. i think Wednesday's game is the most crucial to get thru to the group stages. ManU is just another league game and i don't mind if we lost to the at OT. It's not easy playing there anyway.
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but can they? i doubt it. but watever. having cesc out for a few weeks is better than playing him, him getting injured and off for a few months. and on the mu game, have some faith. i know its not easy to beat them at OT, but i dont think we will give up so easily. at least a draw biggrin.gif
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i believe arsene will use attacking, counter attack 2 get 1 goal up then celtic gotta score at least 3-1
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It seems like with a formation of 4-3-3, all our players can be fully utilized to the max and all our previous problems on player selection are gone, don't you guys think so?

AW's favorites (Denilson & Diaby) can fit in and complement each other while Fabregas can play in a free role position.

With already short of wingers, we can fit our excessive (yet highly regarded) strikers (despite losing Adebayor) in the formation.

Besides that, with one or two midfielder(s) in front of the back four most of the time, our defense has improved as well. Although not many like it, we are having Gallas bombing forward more often because the defense is pretty much covered - I prefer to have Toure for that role though.

For this formation, my concern is on our fullbacks. With lesser help from wingers, they may have to mark opponent wingers and bombing fullbacks (for teams who brave enough to leave our wide forward alone).
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QUOTE(kaka91 @ Aug 24 2009, 06:45 PM)
but can they? i doubt it. but watever. having cesc out for a few weeks is better than playing him, him getting injured and off for a few months. and on the mu game, have some faith. i know its not easy to beat them at OT, but i dont think we will give up so easily. at least a draw  biggrin.gif
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we don't have adebayor this time.  tongue.gif
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with our current 4-3-3... sagna and clichy should get used to being box-to-box full back rather than overlapping. Sagna was caught off guard many times. Gibbs was exposed last weekend. Only clichy managed to cover defense and overlap as quickly but that will surely tire him somewhat.

So, i prefer if our fullbacks would be more of a box to box kinda player. release Arshavin and Bendtner, work out a way thru the middle.. and you'll see some magic from RVP later. wink.gif

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haha.. without adabayar, the other players get more bayaran biggrin.gif
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still no news on cesc? kinda scared if he wont make it for the trip to old trafford.
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QUOTE(iglue @ Aug 24 2009, 08:46 PM)
still no news on cesc? kinda scared if he wont make it for the trip to old trafford.
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from arsenal.com, arsene said that it might be 3 weeks, but cesc says its not bad. arsenal.com says they will have the news by tuesday. we shall know tmr. right now, no news is bad news sad.gif
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QUOTE(kaka91 @ Aug 24 2009, 08:54 PM)
from arsenal.com, arsene said that it might be 3 weeks, but cesc says its not bad. arsenal.com says they will have the news by tuesday. we shall know tmr. right now, no news is bad news  sad.gif
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sucks to think about it but our team is way too small... Arshavin was right to comment that we should buy before end of August...

look at Cesc now... he's injured and everyone's trembling their knee .... shakehead.gif
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QUOTE(kaka91 @ Aug 24 2009, 07:21 PM)
thank god. he wasn't much use the last time.
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QUOTE(maximus85 @ Aug 24 2009, 09:23 PM)
sucks to think about it but our team is way too small... Arshavin was right to comment that we should buy before end of August...

look at Cesc now... he's injured and everyone's trembling their knee .... shakehead.gif
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Shebby is a Spurs fan.. haha.. I am sure he do not want Arsenal to be on top and I think he will be disappointed yet again! biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(gwong @ Aug 24 2009, 10:56 PM)
Shebby is a Spurs fan.. haha.. I am sure he do not want Arsenal to be on top and I think he will be disappointed yet again! biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(gwong @ Aug 24 2009, 10:56 PM)
Shebby is a Spurs fan.. haha.. I am sure he do not want Arsenal to be on top and I think he will be disappointed yet again! biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Vagine @ Aug 24 2009, 11:21 PM)
still remember how shebby 'defending' his team during the 8games 2 points last season? lolz
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But Shebby was right in the end. I hate Spurs to the core. But I'm also realistic. With the squad and players they have I thought it was pretty obvious too at that point that they were never in danger of getting relegated or finishing bottom half even with 2 points in 8 games.

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IMO,spuds wont even touch the top for the rest of this season. biggrin.gif
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To be honest they do look a more balanced team this year. Like I said I hate them but I'm also realistic. Harry has had a pretty decent transfer summer and they could well finish in either one of the European Cup places this year. Europa League place that is nod.gif They will challenge for a top 4 spot but will fade away sooner or later. Squad too thin. A few injuries here and there and a few fixtures against ourselves, Man Utd and Chelsea will put them in their place tongue.gif .

But the advantage that they have this season is they are free from any European commitment having failed to qualify last year. They could concentrate fully on the BPL.

Btw our Reserves vs Fulham at 2 am if anyone is interested



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just throwing this in, some extended highlights of the Arsenal vs. Portsmouth game

Part 1: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=L73C5SGM

Part 2: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=78JB88AL
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Hello Gooners,anyone awakie?
lets watch LivVilla 2nd half together-gether
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QUOTE(Quick` @ Aug 25 2009, 04:05 AM)
Hello Gooners,anyone awakie?
lets watch LivVilla 2nd half together-gether
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I'm still awake but no interest in that match -.-

EDIT: Wow 2-0 Villa. Ok now that has peaked my interest lol tongue.gif

Streaming the match now. biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(sigheart @ Aug 25 2009, 04:15 AM)
I'm still awake but no interest in that match -.-

EDIT: Wow 2-0 Villa. Ok now that has peaked my interest lol  tongue.gif

Streaming the match now.  biggrin.gif
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1st half entertained me fairly
thats why im into 2nd half as well
so far quite entertaining..liverpool pressing kao kao
but tak berhasil

woot liverpool got 1 back.
INTERESTING!
can they go on and win it from here

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QUOTE(Quick` @ Aug 25 2009, 04:33 AM)
1st half entertained me fairly
thats why im into 2nd half as well
so far quite entertaining..liverpool pressing kao kao
but tak berhasil

woot liverpool got 1 back.
INTERESTING!
can they go on and win it from here
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1-3 now....Poor defending IMO. Reo Coker practically strolled through there...

Back to a bit of Arsenal though our Reserves made the perfect start to the season with a 3-0 win over Fulham.

Sunu, Coquelin and Deacon the scorers

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lol, i dont even know any of these 3 players
but all these names sounds..powerful and strong
sunu! coquelin...deacon!

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QUOTE(Quick` @ Aug 25 2009, 04:46 AM)
lol, i dont even know any of these 3 players
but all these names sounds..powerful and strong
sunu! coquelin...deacon!
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Ah how can you not know Coquelin haha or you forgot ? hmm.gif One of our highest rated youngsters apart from Wilshere, Vela and Ramsey. Plays primarily as a DM. Could e a very very good backup to Song in that DM role in 1 or 2 years time.

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Picture doesn't ring a bell still ?
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QUOTE(sigheart @ Aug 25 2009, 04:49 AM)
Ah how can you not know Coquelin haha or you forgot ?  hmm.gif One of our highest rated youngsters apart from Wilshere, Vela and Ramsey. Plays primarily as a DM. Could e a very very good backup to Song in that DM role in 1 or 2 years time.

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Picture doesn't ring a bell still ?
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lol, i wanted to say
among all those 3 the most familiar name is Coquelin,think ive heard of this name before
but even if i said that...dont make any diff
cause i still dont know what position he plays and how he look like laugh.gif

neways,off to bed...
1 of our rivals drop 3 pts....its good news for us
who we really need to drop pts now is Chelsea
they look real strong...
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a picture will never ring a bell if he didn't play for arsenal first team yet.lol. tongue.gif or did he?huhu
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He made an appearance in that 6-0 thrashing of Sheffield United last season when Vela scored the hattrick. That is the only first team appearance he has made for us but if you have been following and watching our pre-season games both last season and this season then you couldn't have missed him IMO.
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QUOTE(sigheart @ Aug 25 2009, 05:05 AM)
He made an appearance in that 6-0 thrashing of Sheffield United last season when Vela scored the hattrick. That is the only first team appearance he has made for us but if you have been following and watching our pre-season games both last season and this season then you couldn't have missed him IMO.
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ahakx.no wonder.i didn't watch that 6-0 game and also both last season and this season presason matches.

btw,i know them since i'm FM manager.huhu.
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QUOTE(sigheart @ Aug 25 2009, 04:49 AM)
Ah how can you not know Coquelin haha or you forgot ?  hmm.gif One of our highest rated youngsters apart from Wilshere, Vela and Ramsey. Plays primarily as a DM. Could e a very very good backup to Song in that DM role in 1 or 2 years time.

Picture doesn't ring a bell still ?
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le Coq.... great prospect... he's one to watch in the future... If he keeps on improving at the rate he is now, he could be even better than Song. A box-to-box player like Vieira is more likely.

QUOTE(RO Player @ Aug 25 2009, 12:22 AM)
Problem is AW too selective and reserved in buying quality players (dont want to pay extra transfers fees and salary, i.e. rooney, MU paid 20m for him and see where is he now, etoo... etc) let the youngster groom to take those 1st team. And problems come year after year...trophyless  which getting frustration among the gunners' fans. I hope that AW can buy a striker and a defender, someone again injured which as always unforeseen this small problems.

Get some quality players to add depth as Arshavin says and others.  shakehead.gif
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As Arshavin says? I for one don't agree that managers should succumb to the demands of players. I agree with Andy to a certain extent that we may require more additions, but that's due to the lack of quantity in our squad rather than quality.

The latest rumour about Chamakh is that we've already agreed on terms and fees with Bordeaux, but the sale of Ade and Kolo gave them the opportunity to blackmail us for more money, and hence we pulled out of the deal. There's no guarantee how true this may be, but as mentioned before the odds are against Bordeaux as Chamakh can leave for nothing next summer. West Ham might be the latest interested party but judging from Chamakh's camp he isn't too keen to go there. If he truly wants to come to Arsenal then he'll be forced to play hardball with Bordeaux like how Andy and Bak did.

You cannot compare the 20M MU paid for Rooney. Spending huge amounts of money on a player is always a gamble, and even back at the time when Rooney was available, we simply cannot afford to compete financially with them. However, our club has its own attractions and hence we managed to fend off MU by getting Ramsey. And don't forget, we paid pennies for Fabregas and Merida, and Wilshere is our own product.

Anyway, read the following interview with le Boss:
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How do you respond, though, to the criticism of many, including some Arsenal fans, that you have such a strong belief in this philosophy that you are now entrenched? You wouldn’t change it even if you could. You could be two players away and you still wouldn’t buy them.

Yes, but once you get into that position you are in a trap. When Cesc Fabregas was 18, 19, I would play him in a 4-4-2 with Patrick Vieira and I saw it did not work. Then I had the decision to make about letting Patrick go, because Gilberto Silva and Vieira worked, Fabregas and Silva worked, but I could not play Fabregas and Vieira. But Fabregas was 19 and if he did not play I knew he would want to go, so we risked destroying everything, all the work we had put into this player. Now we have that same situation with Jack Wilshere.

He is 17 and we cannot ask him to play every game to win the championship, he will play a few games maybe. But next year he will be ready to play all the time, he will want to play all the time and if we have bought a player in his position he will want to go. That is why you either have a policy of buying confirmed players, top, top players of 23 or over, or doing it as we are. (Animatedly.) The team we have now gets there. At 22 or 23 I think a team is mature enough to deliver and it is a massively important year for our club. I am conscious of that. I know people have no patience anymore.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/...l#ixzz0PDRPLWQn

Is this a hint that Jack will get a starting 11 position by next season? If he really does, then Theo can finally graduate from winger school and play up front. drool.gif

A front line as below would be exciting to watch... hopefully we'll see this in the CC this season:
Jack - Ramsey - Coq - Merida
Theo - Vela



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a very good morning to all gooners fans!!!!2day i would like to share with all arsenal fans an article about our ex captain Tony Adams!!!!how i wish 4 another defender that plays 4 arsenal half his quality.....even though AW won't buy...i do hope he can lure Adams back to Arsenal as a backroom staff...he would be perfect in giving advice and mental coaching to the players...not to mention some defensive tips.....huhuhuhu...........

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now 4 2nite i hope arsenal finish the job they've done at celtic....by all means if cesc is injured....juz play diaby!!he's on form now!!!better use him fast b4 he gets injured again....huhuuh...kidding2.... sweat.gif

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QUOTE(StarGhazzer @ Aug 25 2009, 08:15 AM)
Anyway, read the following interview with le Boss:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/...l#ixzz0PDRPLWQn

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i do have my own view/argument to the interview given by le Boss especially on the part quoted by SG in his post.

but nonetheless, a very good interview indeed. 13 pages overall, i myself just finished reading the interview this morning after sahur time. every Gooners should read this, believe me you'll know a whole lot more about le Boss if after reading the interview

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hope the next game arsenal will be more aggressive like last seasons game.between arsenal and liverpool.i think, that games is very amazing and never ever seen in my live maa..
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the youngsters are off to a good start too, beating fulham 3-0 =) and i agree with Quick... chelsea do look strong. we have to keep winning coz i dont see them dropping points in the near future.
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Let's hope Burnley will do us a favour when they meet Chelsea. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(RyanAtwood @ Aug 25 2009, 08:58 AM)
a very good morning to all gooners fans!!!!2day i would like to share with all arsenal fans an article about our ex captain Tony Adams!!!!how i wish 4 another defender that plays 4 arsenal half his quality.....even though AW won't buy...i do hope he can lure Adams back to Arsenal as a backroom staff...he would be perfect in giving advice and mental coaching to the players...not to mention some defensive tips.....huhuhuhu...........
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I personally prefer Keown over Adams because Adams was already plagued by injuries and heading towards his twilight years when I started watching football, but that doesn't take away the fact that Adams is the one and only Mr Arsenal.

QUOTE(toshio14 @ Aug 25 2009, 09:18 AM)
i do have my own view/argument to the interview given by le Boss especially on the part quoted by SG in his post.

but nonetheless, a very good interview indeed. 13 pages overall, i myself just finished reading the interview this morning after sahur time. every Gooners should read this, believe me you'll know a whole lot more about le Boss if after reading the interview
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Nobody is perfect and that includes Arsene. Nevertheless he seems to be the best candidate to lead our club under current circumstances. Sure, we might not be winning trophies for the past few years due to various reasons, but being able to remain competitive and at the same time attract starlets all over the world is by no means an easy feat.

I don't even want to imagine how life at Arsenal would be after Arsene retires, be it by 2011 or maybe later. We can only hope that whoever that succeeds le Boss will continue to good work and most important of all, uphold the philosophy and values of the club.
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So, this morning we have Liverpool losing to Villa and Lescott going to ManCity (finally) - and our ex-gunner Silvinho is moving to English Blue (Barca is considered blue to me too)
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young players are always young...

if we lose big (touchwood) this weekend against Man U... i doubt we will easily bounce back... its same old song all over again from seasons to seasons before this.. yawn.gif

AW is keeping faith for Wilshire to play regularly... if we still end up trophyless... current crop of players will surely leave and there are gonna leave more voids to fill in... and then AW just gonna say the same old things like he did in the interview wif another good future prospect youngsters coming up so he ain't gonna buy first......again... on and on and on...
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QUOTE(maximus85 @ Aug 25 2009, 12:01 PM)
young players are always young...

if we lose big (touchwood) this weekend against Man U... i doubt we will easily bounce back... its same old song all over again from seasons to seasons before this.. yawn.gif

AW is keeping faith for Wilshire to play regularly... if we still end up trophyless... current crop of players will surely leave and there are gonna leave more voids to fill in... and then AW just gonna say the same old things like he did in the interview wif another good future prospect youngsters coming up so he ain't gonna buy first......again... on and on and on...
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I think AW is in dilemma now... his youth policy is noble and financially sound but he may have missed out the expectation and patience, not only from the fans but also the PLAYERS. In the end, AW has to alter his policy and inject good players from time to time (but NOT as aggressive as others) to balance up the players gap and competitiveness.

That's why we got Arshavin biggrin.gif

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I believe in the recent years, ManU has always spoiled the party for Arsenal. It's been a huge and demanding task for the young team to go against ManU but seriously this year I feel that with the improvement in the squad, we have something to defeat them. The belief and confidence is high in the changing room and I'm confident of another great match results against Celtic tonight.

I'm hoping that the boys will keep it up and build on their mental strength which will be vital in this year's BPL.
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true mu has spoilt the party for us many times lately, thats why this saturday its time for revenge! they lost ronaldo and tevez( yeah i know we lost players too...) so its probably the best time to beat them. if cesc is back, i think we have a better chance.
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QUOTE(kaka91 @ Aug 25 2009, 01:13 PM)
true mu has spoilt the party for us many times lately, thats why this saturday its time for revenge! they lost ronaldo and tevez( yeah i know we lost players too...) so its probably the best time to beat them. if cesc is back, i think we have a better chance.
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That's exactly what I'm saying! rclxms.gif It's time for revenge! thumbup.gif
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Hmm. Playing on Thursday morning might not be advantageous for us for sure since there will be a match on Saturday. Hopefully there won't be any new injuries for us. I hope Cesc will be rested for the big game!
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Maybe AW will make some last minute shopping like last time with Arshavin. I stayed up until the window closed. Those who followed the progress in the closing hours of transfer window that time may remember what a drama it was trying to sign Arshavin.
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Ya, Arshavin signing was a drama.  thumbup.gif
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yea,its always nice to enter big matches with a fairly high ammount of confidence and spirit
with the above, we stand every chance to take 3 pts away from them
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but first! lets get the job done againts Celtic.
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It seems that our captain might not be playing this weekend. A bit worrying right? shocking.gif

Fabregas a serious doubt for United clash
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Mind games?I hope.

I still remember Wenger saying Sagna,Fabregas and Denilson was a doubt against Celtic and ends up all of them playing.
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Ya, Arshavin signing was a drama.  thumbup.gif
Wonder who will it be this time - Marouane Chamakh?
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Yep. That was the first time I ever followed the transfer market in the dying hours of the transfer window. It was definitely worth it. If I'm not mistaken the Berbatov to Man U saga was during the same time too. As for Chamakh, I think Wenger has made it clear that his not looking to improve the offensive department this time around.

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i thought berbatov was at the last minute of the august one?
Arshavin's in January.. a drama indeed...with Zenit holding back for the loyalty bonus and stuffs..

Dont really fancy this weekend's tie as a revenge but i see it as rather just another game for us...

it can be decisive as it shows how much we wanted to prove the critics wrong and how ambitious we really are...


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QUOTE(nLz | Lanpakali @ Aug 25 2009, 04:01 PM)
i thought berbatov was at the last minute of the august one?
Arshavin's in January.. a drama indeed...with Zenit holding back for the loyalty bonus and stuffs..

Dont really fancy this weekend's tie as a revenge but i see it as rather just another game for us...

it can be decisive as it shows how much we wanted to prove the critics wrong and how ambitious we really are...
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Then the Berbatov saga was the first time I followed transfer deadline coming to a close. Then I followed Arshavin's.

Yep, Saturday is not much of a revenge. More of proving ourselves worthy of being a main contender for the league.
Our time is now.
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The Mail is reporting that he's going to be out for three weeks, which would see him miss the United game, but we'll have to just wait and see. Most of what you read in the Mail should be taken with a hefty pinch of salt. The difficulty is that after the United game we head into a pesky Interlull and if we manage to get him through that game there's no chance for him to rest. Spain will be quite within their rights to call him up.

Arsene may have to think a bit beyond United in terms of this one. If he declares him injured it'll mean Cesc can avoid international duty and recover properly before the visit to the other, richer, part of Manchester on September 12th. I have to think the manager will err on the side of caution here. It's early in the season and we'd be better off ensuring he's fully fit and ready for the rest of the campaign instead of trying to nurse him through an injury which could get worse.
he got it quite right. maybe its for the best we let cesc not play. if he goes to spain, who knows what alonso might do this time? dry.gif
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that's why i say it's better to lose Cesc now for 3 weeks, than losing him for 3 months. international is coming next week. if we declare Cesc injured, he won't be pick. that'll allow him another week to rest, and just before Man Citeh, 50-50 chances. wink.gif
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still, the thought of cesc not playing against mu is kinda scary.. cant we declare him injured after the mu game? heh

edit: cesc missed training today. but rosicky was in training,, means cesc should be out for mu sad.gif

http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/Exclu...icle130011.html



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No matter how much he loves Arsenal, I don't think Cesc would conspire with Arsene against his own country. Playing for his country must means something to him as well. I think he's just really injured. But if Arsene thinking ahead, convinces Cesc that he's sick is a different story tongue.gif

Nah, don't worry much about Cesc not playing against MU. We can cope.


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i think wenger will decide whether to buy a player or not after this saturday's match against MU..
if we didn't play well in that match, hopefully he'll use the remaining 2 days to buy a player before september.
if we played well, he will keep quiet and remain with this squad smile.gif

but this saturday playing with fab, nasri and maybe rosicky will be a huge test for us to play without the seniors smile.gif
if we can still play well then i think wenger is right..
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On Fabregas
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Cesc's hammie scan results are out and thank god there is no signs of strain. Will miss Celtic for sure but could be fit for Man Utd.

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Fabregas to miss Wednesday night’s clash

Cesc Fabregas will not face Celtic on Wednesday night.

The Arsenal captain picked up a hamstring strain against Portsmouth on Saturday and was withdrawn at half-time. Fabregas underwent a scan on the injured muscle on Tuesday morning.

Speaking at his pre-match press conference, Arsène Wenger described the scan results as "reassuring" but confirmed he will miss Wednesday night's clash.

"From last Saturday we lost Cesc Fabregas who did not train today" the manager said.

"His scan was quite reassuring as he has no muscular strain but it will take a few days to settle down.

"There's a chance he'll be fit for Old Trafford."


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That's the best news for today as there is a glimpse of hope for Cesc to be playing on Saturday against ManU. icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(kimhoong @ Aug 25 2009, 12:14 PM)
I think AW is in dilemma now... his youth policy is noble and financially sound but he may have missed out the expectation and patience, not only from the fans but also the PLAYERS. In the end, AW has to alter his policy and inject good players from time to time (but NOT as aggressive as others) to balance up the players gap and competitiveness.

That's why we got Arshavin biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(sigheart @ Aug 25 2009, 08:34 PM)
Cesc's hammie scan results are out and thank god there is no signs of strain. Will miss Celtic for sure but could be fit for Man Utd.
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Arsenal revive interest in St Etienne star Blaise Matuidi[SIZE=7]
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Arsene Wenger has made a fresh move for St Etienne midfielder Blaise Matuidi after fearing Cesc Fabregas is facing an injury lay-off.

Arsenal captain Fabregas, 22, faces a race to be fit for Saturday's trip to Manchester United and could be out for up to three weeks with a hamstring injury.

That has brought it home to Wenger that he needs to strengthen his squad and has gone back for long-term target Matuidi.

Gunners boss Wenger is keen to strengthen his central midfield and defence and still expects to offload Philippe Senderos before the window shuts with Everton still interested.

Wenger has already had lengthy discussions with St Etienne and 22-year-old Matuidi over a move to Arsenal.

St Etienne are demanding £6m while Arsenal want to pay half that figure and are prepared to take the deal right to the wire in the transfer window to drive a hard bargain.

France Under-21 starlet Matuidi, a holding midfielder, would jump at the chance of moving to Arsenal and is hopeful a deal can be completed.

Wenger has already revealed that he still has not given up on signing former Arsenal captain Patrick Vieira, 33, from Inter Milan.

Arsenal will also have money to spend if they progress to the Champions League Group stages from tomorrow night’s qualifier with Celtic.

That could see them go back for Bordeaux striker Marouane Chamakh who has already snubbed West Ham in the hope Arsenal are still interested, otherwise he will stay put.

Is this the defensive player Wenger meant? I still favour our unbeaten captain
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nice cesc could be fit for saturday
real morale booster
wenger should send for massage sessions for his hamstring 5 times a day
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QUOTE(afiqkhairi @ Aug 25 2009, 10:17 PM)
nice cesc could be fit for saturday
real morale booster
wenger should send for massage sessions for his hamstring 5 times a day
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QUOTE(alabais @ Aug 25 2009, 10:19 PM)
I wonder if Cesc were to be breathing in pure oxygen would that help? I remember Rooney or Beckham was injured once and he went through that treatment to make him heal faster. Any ideas?  unsure.gif
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but rooney and beckham were having their fractured metatarsals healed, if i recall correctly
but its worth a shot, thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(afiqkhairi @ Aug 25 2009, 10:26 PM)
haha yeah that could work too
but rooney and beckham were having their fractured metatarsals healed, if i recall correctly
but its worth a shot,  thumbup.gif
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thumbup.gif It's good to know that it can help heal Cesc much faster. Hopefully Wenger reads this! laugh.gif

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arshavin can replace fabregas role for celtic match..please no more injuries issue like last season..bring matuidi in!
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It seems at every one is very concern about Cesc injury. I guess it might be a mind game from AW. To be frank I see Cesc in the Starting Line-up against Man Utd already. smile.gif
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QUOTE(gwong @ Aug 25 2009, 10:42 PM)
It seems at every one is very concern about Cesc injury. I guess it might be a mind game from AW. To be frank I see Cesc in the Starting Line-up against Man Utd already. smile.gif
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any1 watch football focus just now? 2 say arsenal will win against MU and another 2 say if cesc play arsenal will win but if cesc din play will either draw or lose... lolx..
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for tonight game
i prefer we start strongly, seal the deal early and rotate player to freshen them up for big game this weekend

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QUOTE(ivanau88 @ Aug 25 2009, 10:13 PM)
Arsenal revive interest in St Etienne star Blaise Matuidi[SIZE=7]

Is this the defensive player Wenger meant? I still favour our unbeaten captain
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and here's Arsene's reply happy.gif

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Wenger - I've made no move for Matuidi

By Richard Clarke

Arsène Wenger has NOT made a move for Blaise Matuidi.

Tuesday morning’s media suggested the Arsenal manager had revived his interest in the St Etienne midfielder. But at a press conference a few hours later Wenger could not have been more blunt about the speculation. In fact, despite the approaching transfer deadline, the Frenchman said he was not near to bringing in anyone.

“I deny that,” he said pointedly when asked about Matuidi. “The only thing I can tell you is that at the moment we are not close to signing anybody. We have still one week."

[Tuesday, August 25, 2009]


p/s: Good luck to the Gunners tonight ! flex.gif
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hehe good luck to aw and cesc. wish can secure another winning streak from celtic and man u.
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QUOTE(ivanau88 @ Aug 25 2009, 10:13 PM)
Arsenal revive interest in St Etienne star Blaise Matuidi[SIZE=7]

Is this the defensive player Wenger meant? I still favour our unbeaten captain
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I will take Matuidi over the current Vieira any second of any minute of everyday of every month of every year. I don't know why people want to bring Vieira back. He is well past it. Physically knackered and his legs have all but gone. Everyone talks about how valuable his experience will be on the pitch. You can have all the experience in the world but if the body no longer has the capacity to follow what the mind says its practically useless. I'm sorry even though I love Vieira to bits the current Vieira will just be a waste of space on our team sheet. If people want to bring him back for the purpose of passing on his experience and being a mentor to the young guns my as well hire him as a coach then and I'm absolutely fine with that.

Besides bringing him back will take up a spot on the squad list and this will deprive the likes of Ramsey and Merida further chances. Also what message does bringing back Vieira send to everyone ? It shows that the team have not moved any forward at all from the Invincibles era. It shows we are still very much living in the past. Moreover, football doesn't always end with a fairy tale. If he does make a return and succeed fair enough. If he flops, well you already know how unforgiving our fans can be when it comes to performances on the field and I'm sure not only me but all Gooners alike will hate to see one of our legends stain his legacy at the club just like that. You can do a million good things in your life and people may still forget them but do one bad thing and people will remember for life.

Seriously I'm sure Arsene knows all of this and it seems pretty obvious to me that all talk about Vieira returning are all just media bullsh*t as usual. I've rarely criticized the Boss in all my 12 seasons as an Arsenal fan and if Arsene does go back for Vieira I'm afraid he has lost the plot and I'll be very, very surprised and disappointed at the same time.

QUOTE(bobotorix @ Aug 26 2009, 12:19 AM)
for tonight game
i prefer we start strongly, seal the deal early and rotate player to freshen them up for big game this weekend
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and here's Arsene's reply happy.gif

QUOTE(arsenal.com)
Wenger - I've made no move for Matuidi

By Richard Clarke

Arsène Wenger has NOT made a move for Blaise Matuidi.

Tuesday morning’s media suggested the Arsenal manager had revived his interest in the St Etienne midfielder. But at a press conference a few hours later Wenger could not have been more blunt about the speculation. In fact, despite the approaching transfer deadline, the Frenchman said he was not near to bringing in anyone.

“I deny that,” he said pointedly when asked about Matuidi. “The only thing I can tell you is that at the moment we are not close to signing anybody. We have still one week."

[Tuesday, August 25, 2009]


p/s: Good luck to the Gunners tonight ! flex.gif
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So Arsene says we are not close to signing anyone yet specifically highlighted there is a week left. I smell another signing possibly IMO hmm.gif

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QUOTE(jonrwg @ Aug 26 2009, 12:04 AM)
any1 watch football focus just now? 2 say arsenal will win against MU and another 2 say if cesc play arsenal will win but if cesc din play will either draw or lose... lolx..
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good morning folks...

always good to start off the day knowing that fabregas just had a hamstring strain, and not tear or pull, which would've put him out for a while. i actually think it's a blessing in disguise that fabregas can't play tonight against celtic. we've got a 2 - 0 lead (2 away goals by the way) so we can afford not to risk important players and i would like to see how an arsenal team without fabregas performs. and besides, not playing him tonight would give him more time to recover before the all important crunch match with united.

as for the signings, i think i'll leave it to wenger... back in the previous january transfer window, everyone was crying out for a defensive midfielder and wenger decided to go in for arshavin. yes, it didn't solve the defensive woes, but we got a match winner who was very instrumental to overtaking aston villa for the 4th spot (notwithstanding villa's almighty slump in form). so, even though i cannot for the life of me understand why wenger would wanna bring vieira back, if he decides to, i'm sure there will be a reason and a good one at that for doing it. however, given the choice, i'd take matuidi over vieira any day (in the current state of both players).


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zzz... I'm messed up with the time :S ... crawling back to my bed...
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i was up and very semangat last night because want to watch our match. good thing i check the Astro guide around 11 and found out our match is actually on Thursday morning blush.gif

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lol i thought it was last night too, but i was too tired and sick to get up. morning i wake up and saw that we didn't play yet. i was so relieved! thank goodness its tonight. btw u guys no gathering for mu match?

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QUOTE(kaka91 @ Aug 26 2009, 09:56 AM)
lol i thought it was last night too, but i was too tired and sick to get up. morning i wake up and saw that we didn't play yet. i was so relieved! thank goodness its tonight. btw u guys no gathering for mu match?
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When I posted, nobody listens to me... some more gave u all the time table from Astro.  cry.gif
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so, even though i cannot for the life of me understand why wenger would wanna bring vieira back, if he decides to, i'm sure there will be a reason and a good one at that for doing it. however, given the choice, i'd take matuidi over vieira any day (in the current state of both players).
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Arsene ruled out a move for Matuidi, while previously he has also stated that he is not that keen in bringing in Vieira. I'd be more surprised if either or both of them end up at the Grove come Sept 1.

On paper, the young and fit Matuidi seems to be the more sensible choice but with Denilson/Song/Diaby/Fabs/Rosicky/Nasri/Ramsey/Merida all eyeing for the central midfield positions, I can totally understand if le Boss chooses not to spend the money.

Meanwhile, Sol has found himself a new home after being released by Pompey... the thing is, at the age of 35 he's still earning 40K per week from a team in League Two !! Those Arabs.... shocking.gif
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Campbell once said he likes to be "like a tiger roaming the jungle" and he will certainly be the biggest of fat cats in the bottom rung of the professional game in this country after Munto Finance, the Middle East-based company that is funding the incredible developments at the oldest Football League club, awarded him a five-year playing contract worth an estimated £40,000-a-week, in a dressing room where manager Ian McParland admits some of his players earn a "basic £500-a-week."

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/footbal...ht-1777092.html

Lescott joined the funhouse up in Manchester, so does this mean Sendy will eventually leave for Everton? If he does, then surely we could use a backup defender as currently we've only got Gallas, Vermy, and Silvestre fit while Song's making the DM position his very own.

Two interesting articles from Tony Attwood...
Arsene? Best?
http://blog.emiratesstadium.info/?p=1213
Heart says yes, but head says no... Loathe to say this, but Ferguson still won more trophies. Then again, it depends on what your definition of "best" is. If it's revolutionising English football, then yes.

I'm glad we ain't spending money like crazy... Mike Ashley made a mickey out of Newcastle and they may end up like Leeds, Liverpool's cash strapped now, while all the other teams who built new stadiums went down the drain...
http://blog.emiratesstadium.info/?p=1205

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A very good article on our new 4-3-3 formation.

http://arsenalcolumn.wordpress.com/
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i tot arsene mentioned he almost sign 2, almost done deal before epl start?
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We'll see, a few days left to go for the transfer window to close.
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A very good article on our new 4-3-3 formation.

http://arsenalcolumn.wordpress.com/
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Well well, it looks just like how our unbeaten team plays with the exception of Robin who's more Dennis than Thierry.

But of course, it'll need more fine tuning before Song/Denilson can boss the midfield like Vieira/Gil did, and also Nicky to provide the right flank menace of Freddie. Once Andy gets his form back he'll be able to emulate Bobby Pires.

433, 4231, 4411, whatever... it's how the players make their runs and we're looking good at the moment.
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Following the best part of a year out of the game after an horrific leg injury suffered at Birmingham in February 2008, Eduardo opened his account for the new campaign in the 6-1 Barclays Premier League win at Everton on the opening day.

"Eduardo was one of the players we missed terribly because he can score goals and provide," said Wenger. "It is a massive season for Eduardo because he was out for such a long time - he was out before he could prove what a big player he is."

The centre-forward looks set for a start in Wednesday night's Champions League qualifier second leg against Celtic, with the Gunners boss ready to rest Robin van Persie.

Wenger added: "In the first season for the first six months, he did not play a lot. When he then came in and showed his class, he was then injured and lost a whole season.

"Now he is in the third season, without having the opportunity until now to prove how good he is."

Wenger admitted he was relieved to see the forward back in action.

"I had doubts about his injuries and only fools would say they had no doubt," he reflected.

"When you see his first injury, you had to have doubts, but he has shown his strength of character - and now I have no doubts any more about him because for me he is completely a normal player."

Arsenal captain Cesc Fabregas will not be fit for Wednesday's game, which the Gunners lead 2-0. The Spain international is recovering from a hamstring problem, but scans have revealed only minor damage so he is back in contention to return for Saturday's showdown at Manchester United.

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Arsene ruled out a move for Matuidi, while previously he has also stated that he is not that keen in bringing in Vieira. I'd be more surprised if either or both of them end up at the Grove come Sept 1.

On paper, the young and fit Matuidi seems to be the more sensible choice but with Denilson/Song/Diaby/Fabs/Rosicky/Nasri/Ramsey/Merida all eyeing for the central midfield positions, I can totally understand if le Boss chooses not to spend the money.
yeah, i'm quite sure the rumours about the 2 players are just that.. rumours. =)
i was just basing my explanation that if those rumours were true. and i would take matuidi because he's more defensive minded, who can provide competition for song, where all the other players listed are attacking (probably with the exception of merida). and of course, matuidi is approaching his prime (exactly how wenger likes it) as opposed to vieira, who is at the tailend of his career.

but yes, i won't be in the least surprised if this is the squad that wenger sticks with.
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QUOTE(lostasylum @ Aug 26 2009, 05:31 PM)
yeah, i'm quite sure the rumours about the 2 players are just that.. rumours. =)
i was just basing my explanation that if those rumours were true. and i would take matuidi because he's more defensive minded, who can provide competition for song, where all the other players listed are attacking (probably with the exception of merida). and of course, matuidi is approaching his prime (exactly how wenger likes it) as opposed to vieira, who is at the tailend of his career.

but yes, i won't be in the least surprised if this is the squad that wenger sticks with.
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A month ago fans were asking for more defensive cover but after seeing Song step up and Vermy slot seamlessly into the CD position, there have been less call for it.
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A month ago fans were asking for more defensive cover but after seeing Song step up and Vermy slot seamlessly into the CD position, there have been less call for it.
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although the calls are less now, i still believe that we are still short of cover in that area.... if song gets injured, who will be able to step into his shoes? because i honestly believe that denilson can't carry the defensive workload alone and i'm not sure merida is able to step up so soon...
and if vermaelen or gallas is injured, who can take their place (especially since JD is injured and senderos is trying to tie up a deal with everton).

i'm just worried that our quality will not survive long enough to win a trophy if we do not have enough of quantity for that quality. =)
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QUOTE(lostasylum @ Aug 26 2009, 06:20 PM)
although the calls are less now, i still believe that we are still short of cover in that area.... if song gets injured, who will be able to step into his shoes? because i honestly believe that denilson can't carry the defensive workload alone and i'm not sure merida is able to step up so soon...
and if vermaelen or gallas is injured, who can take their place (especially since JD is injured and senderos is trying to tie up a deal with everton).

i'm just worried that our quality will not survive long enough to win a trophy if we do not have enough of quantity for that quality. =)
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Song will be replaced by Diaby.

If Vermy\Gallas I'm not sure. hmm.gif
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Song will be replaced by Diaby.

If Vermy\Gallas I'm not sure.  hmm.gif
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that's the common consensus... but i honestly doubt that diaby can stick to doing just defensive duty. diaby himself has admitted that he's a very attacking player and i believe even wenger thinks so... so if we play diaby there, our back 4 will have not enough cover and they will be stretched, especially if we make the mistake of committing too many midfielders forward to help out in attack, a scenario that is likely to happen given diaby's attacking nous... as i mentioned a few posts earlier, i don't think denilson is able to shoulder the main defensive duty on his shoulders, so a scenario where diaby is committed and denilson without adequate cover doesn't bode too well for me...

another thing is that diaby holds the ball too long most of the time, and this slows down our attack. and this is also dangerous because a holding midfielder's primary role is to distribute the ball out of defense, and do it quickly and cleanly, something i believe is lacky from diaby's play thus far. this was a point that starghazzer and i had previously pointed out as well....


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guess who is back in training? at least we will have rosicky back for mu

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guess who is back in training? at least we will have rosicky back for mu
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QUOTE(lostasylum @ Aug 26 2009, 06:59 PM)
that's the common consensus... but i honestly doubt that diaby can stick to doing just defensive duty. diaby himself has admitted that he's a very attacking player and i believe even wenger thinks so... so if we play diaby there, our back 4 will have not enough cover and they will be stretched, especially if we make the mistake of committing too many midfielders forward to help out in attack, a scenario that is likely to happen given diaby's attacking nous... as i mentioned a few posts earlier, i don't think denilson is able to shoulder the main defensive duty on his shoulders, so a scenario where diaby is committed and denilson without adequate cover doesn't bode too well for me...

another thing is that diaby holds the ball too long most of the time, and this slows down our attack. and this is also dangerous because a holding midfielder's primary role is to distribute the ball out of defense, and do it quickly and cleanly, something i believe is lacky from diaby's play thus far. this was a point that starghazzer and i had previously pointed out as well....
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by that time the diaby hate club will arise once more
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the gathering really jadi wan or not??

ill be there anyway... ;p
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QUOTE(lostasylum @ Aug 26 2009, 06:59 PM)
that's the common consensus... but i honestly doubt that diaby can stick to doing just defensive duty. diaby himself has admitted that he's a very attacking player and i believe even wenger thinks so... so if we play diaby there, our back 4 will have not enough cover and they will be stretched, especially if we make the mistake of committing too many midfielders forward to help out in attack, a scenario that is likely to happen given diaby's attacking nous... as i mentioned a few posts earlier, i don't think denilson is able to shoulder the main defensive duty on his shoulders, so a scenario where diaby is committed and denilson without adequate cover doesn't bode too well for me...

another thing is that diaby holds the ball too long most of the time, and this slows down our attack. and this is also dangerous because a holding midfielder's primary role is to distribute the ball out of defense, and do it quickly and cleanly, something i believe is lacky from diaby's play thus far. this was a point that starghazzer and i had previously pointed out as well....
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i hope we go with the best team available tonight. obviously no players with injury worries to be risked but i expect le Boss to field the best team available nonetheless due to 2 reasons

1. ensure our qualification to the CL group stage
2. keep our winning momentum going before the major clash with MU this weekend
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van Persie has never disclosed his faith in interviews,but samir nasir is a Muslim
btw, where is this gathering?
cant wait for rosicky comeback,he has suffered enough,so does the fans.
on lostasylum comments,im worried bout the same thing, we need quantity in the long running,still remember few seasons back we were unbeaten for 22 matches and favorites to win the title,but failed abruptly.
don't want that to repeat.
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Happy fasting month to all Arsenal supporters, by the way, just wanna ask, Van Persie is a Muslim?
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if im not wrong yes.. cuz he married with a muslim girl...
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if im not wrong yes.. cuz he married with a muslim girl...
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Bouchra apparently is, but Robin has previously denied that he is a practicing Muslim.

QUOTE(jonrwg @ Aug 26 2009, 09:05 PM)
nasri wife is a tennis player rite?
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http://www.arsenal.vitalfootball.co.uk/article.asp?a=515771
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[quote=StarGhazzer,Aug 26 2009, 09:17 PM]
Bouchra apparently is, but Robin has previously denied that he is a practicing Muslim.

same rr with another muslim.. just say there are muslim but didnt practising it... he mayb just wanna married beutiful woman...
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rocky attending training doesn't mean his is fit, most likely he just doing some fitness training, which most of the injure ppl will involve as well


better dun rush him, let him regain his fitness play at reserve till mid of oct, it would be handy when some1 drive our car and yet park them aside let Arsene gotta drive them back
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I think is better than not to rush rosicky and eduardo so fast. They will be good in our second half of our season.
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Arsenal vs Celtic got live at astro?
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dont know you guys know about this blog. it seems to be interesting to me
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ESPN: 27-Aug 02:40 Arsenal FC vs. Celtic FC

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Just wanna advise to those who want to have a gathering for match viewing (MU clash is nice one to start with brows.gif )

As our number of members are not many and due to logistic difference, I normally suggest member to initiate their own gathering sessions.

1. Just state where you normally watch Arsenal match and those who are interested, PM directly to this member.

2. After a few of these "mini" gatherings, they (the gatherings) will become more consistent.

3. Then, I will post these gatherings in a list - allowing others who are interested to join.

4. These mini gatherings can cross-joining one another thumbup.gif



Currently, successful gatherings held have been:

1. Asia Cafe, Subang Jaya (am I right about the venue?)
2. BRJ, Wangsa Maju (my "territory" brows.gif )
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QUOTE(kimhoong @ Aug 26 2009, 11:43 PM)
Just wanna advise to those who want to have a gathering for match viewing (MU clash is nice one to start with brows.gif )

As our number of members are not many and due to logistic difference, I normally suggest member to initiate their own gathering sessions.

1. Just state where you normally watch Arsenal match and those who are interested, PM directly to this member.

2. After a few of these "mini" gatherings, they (the gatherings) will become more consistent.

3. Then, I will post these gatherings in a list - allowing others who are interested to join.

4. These mini gatherings can cross-joining one another thumbup.gif
Currently, successful gatherings held have been:

1. Asia Cafe, Subang Jaya (am I right about the venue?)
2. BRJ, Wangsa Maju (my "territory" brows.gif )
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am going to asia cafe with my (mu's) friend cry.gif
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QUOTE(kimhoong @ Aug 26 2009, 11:43 PM)
Just wanna advise to those who want to have a gathering for match viewing (MU clash is nice one to start with brows.gif )

As our number of members are not many and due to logistic difference, I normally suggest member to initiate their own gathering sessions.

1. Just state where you normally watch Arsenal match and those who are interested, PM directly to this member.

2. After a few of these "mini" gatherings, they (the gatherings) will become more consistent.

3. Then, I will post these gatherings in a list - allowing others who are interested to join.

4. These mini gatherings can cross-joining one another thumbup.gif
Currently, successful gatherings held have been:

1. Asia Cafe, Subang Jaya (am I right about the venue?)
2. BRJ, Wangsa Maju (my "territory" brows.gif )
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i'm considering staying at my bro's room in wangsa maju this saturday
if i'm going then join u la for wangsa maju gathering
or any1 else gathering around bukit jalil?
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Yup, I'm still staying in Wangsa Maju thumbup.gif

Cannot confirm whether I'm going for the match or not, but most probably, yes. Will keep you guys updated. But since Gr3yL3gion seems to be interested, maybe we set at least, one venue:

BRJ, Wangsa Maju thumbup.gif
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brj seems cool..wish i was still there @ wmaju cry.gif

i think we can get past this. my main concern will be this weekend. if we can win this weekend, morale will be running high for few months i assumed..which kinda shape up our performance for the season..
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http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=47290&part=sports

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So Van P and Arshavin being saved brows.gif

Team:

Almunia

Sagna Gallas Vermaelen Clichy

Eboue Song Denilson

Diaby Bendtner Eduardo



subs: Mannone, van Persie, Ramsey, Silvestre, Wilshere, Arshavin, Traore

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team looks fine. jack on the bench, hopefully he plays some part =) and there is great streaming today coz mu not playing at the same time wink.gif

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same with me biggrin.gif  hope tease them this time
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almunia capi.. hmm.
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Is it me or Celtic is playing psychically rough?
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Nearly by DuDU
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Sir Alex Ferguson in the stands.I wonder why laugh.gif
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he is? didn't notice... anyway, aww dudu! that was close
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nice streaming
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Added on August 27, 2009, 3:11 amSo far, we have been dangerous to Celtic in our attack but yet, the game is still far from one sided.

Celtic has their own decent performance in containing us and to attempt some attacks.

Looks good to Arsenal for the time being smile.gif

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PENALTY!!!!!!!!!!!
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GOAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

IMHO,Boruc didnt even had any contact on Dudu.LOL
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Eduardo dived.. but we'll take it biggrin.gif
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GOAL EDUARDO.Although he dived laugh.gif
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dudu dive.. then score. 1-0! =)
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Well it is true arsenal did not played dirty enough to win the game.Now this is how to play dirty.
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Nice penalty, poor decision from the ref who, as is the way in Spain, bought the dive.
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I can foresee tomorrow's sport headlines: Eduardo dived to Arsenal win (or something like that) - but those against us before were hardly reported whistling.gif

It's pay back time but unfortunately, it's Celtic for the first blood instead of some regular rivals vmad.gif
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still, why did dudu have to dive? did he think we cant win or something? i dont like it when our players dive...
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For the truth,goal is still a goal.Arsenal lost numerous time due to foul play too.So bare with it Celtic.

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I can foresee tomorrow's sport headlines: Eduardo dived to Arsenal win (or something like that) - but those against us before were hardly reported whistling.gif

It's pay back time but unfortunately, it's Celtic for the first blood instead of some regular rivals vmad.gif
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Yeah, we should repay Rooney. vmad.gif
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Yeah, we should repay Rooney.  vmad.gif
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Invincibles ending story started with Rooney dived when Sol never touched him
Bear with it opponents, maybe dirty works sometimes


Added on August 27, 2009, 3:26 amOffside!
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Statistically, we are pretty much through the final stages. To score 3 in Emirates Stadium - I still couldn't see it from Celtic, at least not from the current performance in the first half smile.gif
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Did anyone see Eduardos disgusting dive for the penalty­ ??. Same old Arsenal- always cheating. Surely video­ evidence should be used to ban that scumbag for­ cheating - again !
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The Arsenal / Celtic tie is a complete farce! All­ three goals "scored" by the Gooners have been­ complete $%& !!!
First, the ACCIDENTAL goal off the­ back of Gallas as he's trying to duck out of the­ way (which he had the audacity to celebrate). Then, the­ awful bad luck own goal by the hoops. Now, a phantom­ penalty in the box where EDUARDO TAKES A DIVE­ !!!

CAN'T WAIT FOR OCTOBER 31ST !!! THERE WILL BE­ JUSTICE!!! COME ON YOU SPURS !!!
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ooo so close =(
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Arsenal counter-attack has been amazing.Nearly made Celtic quits by half-time if Arsenal scored more laugh.gif
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oiiiiiii bendtner free header !
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Some quote from Eurosport Comment Box
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I do have pity on Celtic - but that's football I guess.... yet, I have no fear against Spurs icon_idea.gif


Final shot of the first half from Eduardo looked promising ! Guess not many of our current gunners can do that - at least not on the pitch.
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We really miss those killer pass from Cesc and Van Persie.

Diaby seems missing for the whole half time.

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QUOTE(bobotorix @ Aug 27 2009, 03:29 AM)
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rolleyes.gif as if the scums never dived
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still, why did dudu have to dive? did he think we cant win or something? i dont like it when our players dive...
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QUOTE(ivanchin99 @ Aug 27 2009, 03:36 AM)
rolleyes.gif as if the scums never dived
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QUOTE(kimhoong @ Aug 27 2009, 03:19 AM)
I can foresee tomorrow's sport headlines: Eduardo dived to Arsenal win (or something like that) - but those against us before were hardly reported whistling.gif

It's pay back time but unfortunately, it's Celtic for the first blood instead of some regular rivals vmad.gif
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Eduardo floors Celtic

Arsenal are all but in the Champions League after an Eduardo penalty put them 3-0 up on aggregate against Celtic at the Emirates. But the goal was shrouded in controversy, with the Croatia international clearly appearing to dive on Artur Boruc's challenge to win the spot-kick.

lol wub.gif


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Yeah, they haven'tt forgive us for poisoning their food.  icon_idea.gif
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Haha... Diving and all is part of the beautiful game... A pity it had to happen against Celtic tho... Wud love to get one of those over our fiercer "rivals" tongue.gif
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Haha... Diving and all is part of the beautiful game... A pity it had to happen against Celtic tho... Wud love to get one of those over our fiercer "rivals" tongue.gif
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i wonder what will happen when it happen when we meet mu or other rivals... hummmm rolleyes.gif
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i wonder what will happen when it happen when we meet mu or other rivals... hummmm rolleyes.gif
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in a way, dudu was the last person i expected to dive.. he seems so good u know? heh. if say, eboue, or diaby dived, i kinda would not feel bad
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i wonder what will happen when it happen when we meet mu or other rivals... hummmm rolleyes.gif
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What goes around comes around.

Rooney, Ronaldo, Drogba.

Stevie G ain't a saint either. rolleyes.gif
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cool guys.. everyone is entitled to their own opinion. for us, the final result it what's important. rooney during our 49.. everyone (expect us) were happy he did what he did n pointed to the ref's blunder instead.

u can't please everyone.. tongue.gif


Added on August 27, 2009, 3:53 ameduardo missed an open goal.. doh.gif

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That miss should attone for his dive.... haha...
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eboue GOAL... !!!!!!!1 eduardo shld compose himself like this.

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Diaby subbed out. biggrin.gif
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uikkk, i saw alex ferguson

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uikkk, i saw alex ferguson

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anyway arshavin goal!!!
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Arshavin rounded it up
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super-sub Arshavin!!!

Nice turn and he just slots it nicely.

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Arsenal youngster team since when turn into gangster?Or new tactic by the lads?lol
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Wilshere tackle gila babi
Roughed up by Celtic
Denilson to the rescue
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Stadium so empty already.

Now i hope Denilson can make Rooney shut up this Saturday laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Zan81 @ Aug 27 2009, 04:31 AM)
Wilshere tackle gila babi
Roughed up by Celtic
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Added on August 27, 2009, 4:35 ammeh 3-1 =(

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FT 3-1 we are through! =) i still wish dudu had not dived. ah well, watever. what time is the CL draw tmr?
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Poor Celtic started brightly but never made any impact and when the first goal scored against them, they lost their plots.

Great overall performance from the Gunners thumbup.gif (with or without the penalty)
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I think the Arsenal fans at the stadium are a disgrace.

I mean, this is the best we have seen our lads play in a long long while, the least the fans over there can do is stay back and applaud our team. Instead, they leave early in both this and the last home game. Its a f**cking disgrace. How then would our players feel if week in week out, they put in world class performances, only to see 1/4 of the lower tier empty by the 80th minute?

Our Gooners barely made a peep throughout the match and only sang when we scored. Just look at the Celtic fans having a ball of a time despite being 5-0 down on aggregate. Mucho respecto.

In the end, I'm glad the Bhoys scored their consolation because their superb fans deserve something. Our Gooners over there better show some appreciation to our team.
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I think the Arsenal fans at the stadium are a disgrace.

I mean, this is the best we have seen our lads play in a long long while, the least the fans over there can do is stay back and applaud our team. Instead, they leave early in both this and the last home game. Its a f**cking disgrace. How then would our players feel if week in week out, they put in world class performances, only to see 1/4 of the lower tier empty by the 80th minute?

Our Gooners barely made a peep throughout the match and only sang when we scored. Just look at the Celtic fans having a ball of a time despite being 5-0 down on aggregate. Mucho respecto.

In the end, I'm glad the Bhoys scored their consolation because their superb fans deserve something. Our Gooners over there better show some appreciation to our team.
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QUOTE(Zan81 @ Aug 27 2009, 04:39 AM)
I think the Arsenal fans at the stadium are a disgrace.

I mean, this is the best we have seen our lads play in a long long while, the least the fans over there can do is stay back and applaud our team. Instead, they leave early in both this and the last home game. Its a f**cking disgrace. How then would our players feel if week in week out, they put in world class performances, only to see 1/4 of the lower tier empty by the 80th minute?

Our Gooners barely made a peep throughout the match and only sang when we scored. Just look at the Celtic fans having a ball of a time despite being 5-0 down on aggregate. Mucho respecto.

In the end, I'm glad the Bhoys scored their consolation because their superb fans deserve something. Our Gooners over there better show some appreciation to our team.
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Yes, rightly said. Home fans should have shown better support to them. Being at home means that you are.... at home! Why bother going home soooo soon?

Maybe most took the game for granted knowing that we are 2-away-goal in advantage.

Maybe it's weekday and mostly have to work on the next day - unconvincing excuse?


Personally, we has done a great job in Emirates Stadium. Great overall performance and there have been some great goals scored - what more do you expect ?

Maybe, the first leg has killed off the excitement and opponent's ideal strategy - but we cannot deny that we were the much better side smile.gif

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QUOTE(Nasri8 @ Aug 27 2009, 04:42 AM)
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If it was Stadium Shah Alam or Bukit Jalil, that would be very true. Theirs is probably due to the congestion in the underground train station.

But still... Its a good performance, they should stay back to applaud the team and give the lads the extra motivation to take up to Old Trafford. I'm sure if they hung around the stadium for awhile, they'd beat the human traffic jam.

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QUOTE(Zan81 @ Aug 27 2009, 04:48 AM)
If it was Stadium Shah Alam or Bukit Jalil, that would be very true. Theirs is probably due to the congestion in the underground train station.

But still... Its a good performance, they should stay back to applaud the team and give the lads the extra motivation to take up to Old Trafford. I'm sure if they hung around the stadium for awhile, they'd beat the human traffic jam.
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I think you're being a bit harsh on them. If its a weekend then probably its inexcusable but bear in mind its a weekday/working day and I'm sure most would have rushed to the stadium after working hours. Even more so taking the effort to make it there despite the heavy rain before the match as stated by the commentator. I'm sure most are tired and not to mention wet and hungry as well. Tomorrow is no holiday as well IMO and its understandable that they need rest as well. Its almost 10 pm there already mind you.
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yea another winning streak way to go gunner..
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Great diving Dudu... thumbup.gif

Arsenal should start playing dirty to win games... can't be too naive like the past seasons...
Or else better teams will walk all over you.

Good game. Now, to Manchester for the next two weeks. rclxm9.gif
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hahahaaaa 5-1 hell yeah. I know I'm gonna be walking around half asleep at work again tomorrow but woohooo didn't we just show em. Well, Sir Alex, make way for the gunners. We're coming right at ya and we ain't gonna stop.

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QUOTE(sigheart @ Aug 27 2009, 04:59 AM)
I think you're being a bit harsh on them. If its a weekend then probably its inexcusable but bear in mind its a weekday/working day and I'm sure most would have rushed to the stadium after working hours. Even more so taking the effort to make it there despite the heavy rain before the match as stated by the commentator. I'm sure most are tired and not to mention wet and hungry as well. Tomorrow is no holiday as well IMO and its understandable that they need rest as well. Its almost 10 pm there already mind you.
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If I saw it today, I probably wouldn't be too harsh. But this also happened against Pompey, which was the first league game at home and on a weekend. At on top of that, everyone got free scarves.
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QUOTE(Dashken @ Aug 27 2009, 05:02 AM)
Great diving Dudu...  thumbup.gif

Arsenal should start playing dirty to win games... can't be too naive like the past seasons...
Or else better teams will walk all over you.

Good game. Now, to Manchester for the next two weeksrclxm9.gif
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QUOTE(sufyian @ Aug 27 2009, 05:30 AM)
bro..i tink it is on dis saturday...rite?
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alamak... epic fail from me... xtau got game today... damnation! but i guess it's forgivable since i just started classes today haha smile.gif any highlights available? shav and eduardo scored, always a good sign smile.gif
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QUOTE(Zan81 @ Aug 27 2009, 05:17 AM)
If I saw it today, I probably wouldn't be too harsh. But this also happened against Pompey, which was the first league game at home and on a weekend. At on top of that, everyone got free scarves.
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Well yeah probably you are right about them for the Pompey game but I think for today's match they should be cut off some slack. I think for today the fans actually deserve some credit for even turning up in the first place. It was a workday, horrible weather before that to boot with the match being pretty late as well with the next day being a working day. Also we didn't even need to win this game. And yet we still managed an attendance of 59,962 or something which is almost capacity crowd. Even more so the match ends close to 10 pm, god knows what time they will actually reach home with the jams and all. If I were in their shoes today, tired, hungry, cold, wet and with still work the next day I might have done the same and leave early too.

Anyway about our fans leaving the stadium before a match ends, not only the Pompey match but it has been the case since the Emirates was built till now. Not a pretty sight I must admit but sigh guess we can't do much about it.

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'We are organised and structured to attack'

anyway highlights of goals (mediafire)

1-0 Eduardo
2-0 Eboue
3-0 Arshavin
3-1 Donati

Source: http://myarsenalvlog.blogspot.com/
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UCL pots have been revealed.. Who would u like our team to be drawn with? BTW gunners in the 1st pot. biggrin.gif

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Another good win over Celtic... Didn't get to watch it, so no review but here's some quick points.

1. Dudu's "dive". No, diving should never be condoned, and I hope le Boss has a word with him. We're going to get nuked by the media in the days to come, but that's even better. The more people hate our team, the better it is.... No one gave a crap whenever decisions went against us, and honestly speaking I am not going to complain over something that for once went our way .

2. The buildup to Eboue's goal was absolutely superb. Same with Andy's twist-n-shoot. The difference between this season and the previous is how often our players get into the box to harass defenders and the midfielders follow up with a pop at goal. Great movement.

3. Celtic never really had a chance despite all the mind-games before the whistle. I hope all the other teams talk loud before they play us, and our camp just keeps quiet and focus on the preparation.

4. Rambo might be out too.. Bugger. Maybe Diaby will get some rest too... So Tommy's back in the team then? tongue.gif
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“Aaron Ramsey is injured. I do not know how bad it is. I know they checked his knee but I have not spoken to the physios yet. Cesc looks to be short for Saturday. I could take Diaby off because he has not played for a long time. Three games in the same week would be a lot, apart from that, everybody looks alright.”


Highlights:
Celtic:
http://www.mediafire.com/file/d2kb22tjjni/...20Celtic%29.avi

The kids vs Fulham:
http://gunners.com.pl/index.php?readmore=222

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Another good win. I dun think Eduardo dived to get a penalty, he was diving to avoid the keeper & I dun think he was looking to get tht penalty. But then on another day he might not get so lucky.

We haven't been able to keep a clean sheet since the league started & we've conceded 2 very late goals. Although those goals came after we had sealed the win, we shudn't allow tht to happen. Anyway, great win, let's focus on the tough game ahead, our first test vs the Big 4. rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(tenno @ Aug 27 2009, 09:22 AM)
Another good win. I dun think Eduardo dived to get a penalty, he was diving to avoid the keeper & I dun think he was looking to get tht penalty. But then on another day he might not get so lucky.

We haven't been able to keep a clean sheet since the league started & we've conceded 2 very late goals. Although those goals came after we had sealed the win, we shudn't allow tht to happen. Anyway, great win, let's focus on the tough game ahead, our first test vs the Big 4.  rclxms.gif
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Dive or no dive, it all depends on one's perspective but the fact is that there wasn't much contact. Had it been Celtic who did it to us we would be fuming hence Boruc's outburst is understandable. Yet shoving and shouting at the referee is something that is often punished and if the ref wanted to be lansi he could easily give him a card.

Eboue's shirt makes no sense.. Thanks Be To God? unsure.gif

Andy's celebration is nice... Thierry Shhhsshhh and Bobby's wagging finger. Hopefully this will open the dam and Andy will score 5 goals in the next game laugh.gif

And this is WIN.
http://arsenalanalysis.blogspot.com/2009/0...y-as-youve.html

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Well it was a good perfomance by the lads.Is it a obligation to concede a goal in every match?Why cant the lads hold on to clean sheet?If they're gonna concede a goal for every match,that will b like 38 in PL alone.I just hope the lads stay focused till ref blow the end of whistle.

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ugh... woke up this morning and realised that i had missed the arsenal match.. decided to catch some shuteye before the match and next thing i know, it's time for work.. crap...

but it's good to see arsenal winning again, against a more physical side. the fact that we won without the talismanic fabregas is proof that we can cope when push comes to shove. however, as a few people have highlighted, i feel sad and slightly disturbed that eduardo dived to win the penalty. i'm an avid football player and supporter, but i've never liked watching anyone dive to get an edge. so even though i loved pires, i think his diving antics was a blot in his distinguished arsenal career. ronaldo, the less said the better. so yeah, wasn't too happy with the dive. and no, i don't buy the theory of we're due a dive ourselves, other players dive so why not us, etc. and i must say that i strongly disagree that diving is part of the beautiful game.. i think it's one of the things that is making this beautiful game not so beautiful...

and reading about how our fans also left the stadium without staying back to congratulate the arsenal players, i also feel a little saddened. granted, like what sigheart said, it's at night, got work the next day and all, but the players just managed to reach the promised land of the UCL group stages! but i suppose it's always easier to sit on my high chair and criticise them when i myself couldn't wake up for the match... heheh...

but all the doom and gloom aside, it's a happy day! we've reached the CL group stages and we've maintained a 100% start to the season in all competitions... our midfielders are free scoring alongside a certain french defender and our strikers are slowly finding the net, so yes, there is a lot to be hopeful and happy about. have a good day guys (and girl)!

EDIT: oh yeah, forgot about this not being able to keep a clean sheet... this is quite disturbing. but perhaps they've been working hard for 80 minutes to close down players and we've built up a sizeable lead, i guess a goal isn't too bad... although it definitely ain't good either... heheh...

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its been a long time since Arsenal have such a impressive win streak.
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I hope you gunner fans don't mind me giving my 2 bits worth.
Bit No. 1 - Prior to the penalty there was a potential goal opportunity by Eboue half volley as a result of Diaby's pass and effort. Off course the second goal was a result of the tandem passing and scoring. Diaby & Eboue have power and pace to counterattack. Both seemed to have renewed confidence and played with more flair this season.
Bit No. 2 - It was a penalty even though it look like Eduardo embellished it. Ten times out of ten times in this situation a forward will try to avoid being injured by 'flinging ' forward. Still I believe Boruc shoulder glanced Edu's sideway trailing leg/side. Usually when a onrushing goalie goes down collateral damage occurs unless the forward take or mitigate his collision. Hence as a referee I will call the penalty.

Watching the game I believe Arsenal is a team to be reckon with especially Arshavin! rclxms.gif

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Grats Gunners ! Go through to Champions League Group Stage for the 12th consecutive season ! rclxms.gif
Worth stayed up last night brows.gif
and pls note that we were playing with 10 men
when we conceded the goal because Ramsey been taking off due to injury. sleep.gif

p/s: if anyone missed the match there will be replay on astro ESPN at 1pm today. nod.gif
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It's another great morning with a fantastic result for the Gunners! Read a bit of the penalty that was given but then again it was a soft penalty claim. I didn't watch the match or the highlights so I won't be able to comment much.

Overall, it was a great results and I'm hoping we build on the momentum! Go Gunners!

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so heres the team and were in pot 1 guys .. anyone for wishing list ? biggrin.gif

Pot 1
1 FC Barcelona (ESP, holders)
2 Chelsea FC (ENG)
3 Liverpool FC (ENG)
4 Manchester United FC (ENG)
5 AC Milan (ITA)
6 Arsenal FC (ENG)
7 Sevilla FC (ESP)
8 FC Bayern München (GER)

Pot 2
9 Olympique Lyonnais (FRA)
10 FC Internazionale Milano (ITA)
11 Real Madrid CF (ESP)
12 PFC CSKA Moskva (RUS)
13 FC Porto (POR)
14 AZ Alkmaar (NED)
15 Juventus (ITA)
16 Rangers FC (SCO)

Pot 3
17 Olympiacos FC (GRE)
18 Olympique de Marseille (FRA)
19 FC Dynamo Kyiv (UKR)
20 VfB Stuttgart (GER)
21 ACF Fiorentina (ITA)
22 Club Atlético de Madrid (ESP)
23 FC Girondins de Bordeaux (FRA)
24 Beşiktaş JK (TUR)

Pot 4
25 VfL Wolfsburg (GER)
26 R. Standard de Liège (BEL)
27 Maccabi Haifa FC (ISR)
28 FC Zürich (SUI)
29 FC Rubin Kazan (RUS)
30 AFC Unirea Urziceni (ROU)
31 APOEL FC (CYP)
32 Debreceni VSC (HUN)

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QUOTE(noir7559 @ Aug 27 2009, 08:41 AM)
UCL pots have been revealed.. Who would u like our team to be drawn with? BTW gunners in the 1st pot. biggrin.gif

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too bad1, some diving incident happen
too bad2, gallas didn't score....
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QUOTE(StarGhazzer @ Aug 27 2009, 09:07 AM)
2. The buildup to Eboue's goal was absolutely superb. Same with Andy's twist-n-shoot. The difference between this season and the previous is how often our players get into the box to harass defenders and the midfielders follow up with a pop at goal. Great movement.
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This is the most promising part I see in our new Arsenal rclxms.gif

Last two seasons were boring ones because of the overplaying the ball and square-passing without penetration in the box. This season, it's totally different.

Whenever the ball is reaching final third, there will be at least 2 players in front of the ball - while there will be more players running into the box.


The new formation forces the players to pass and run faster because there are little options on the flanks. With most players cramped in the middle, players have to move and move in order to get into positions to receive passes.

Well, as AW pointed out, this new formation requires some time for streamlining. We started with a bang and we have to maintain it... and end with a bigger BANG BANG BANG flex.gif
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QUOTE(alabais @ Aug 27 2009, 11:22 AM)
It's another great morning with a fantastic result for the Gunners! Read a bit of the penalty that was given but then again it was a soft penalty claim. I didn't watch the match or the highlights so I won't be able to comment much.

Overall, it was a great results and I'm hoping we build on the momentum! Go Gunners!

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Like the commentator on the night put it, "it was a penalty won rather than a penalty conceded". Boruc (Celtic's goalkeeper), the alleged offender never laid a finger on Eduardo. blush.gif

The ref was conned whistling.gif

I have to admit though, Eduardo is one hell of a Centre forward. He was getting on the end of things and causing all sorts of problems for the Celtic defenders

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Having only watched the goals, i must say we've got fantastic movement. The build up to the 2nd goal where NB52 took the ball and backheeled to Diaby who then squared it to Eboue to slot it home. 3rd goal was just class act by Arshavin. But then, it was a very good pick by Ramsey to side foot towards Arshavin and he cleverly tricked the defender by twisting and making a yard for himself before slotting it in much like Eboue's goal.

We're playing positive football now, that means alot of attacking movement, and we're abit less technical now, more straight forward and when we get the ball, we look for a quick thru pass or to release it fast, unlike the last few years where we tend to hold the ball, pass it around and wait for a good opening before scoring.

That being said, this is the typical English way of approaching a game, attack with lots of flair but you will leave yourself exposed for sure. So as much as i love to see us score lots of goals now, fact is, we have to watch our back. And even more when we play the UCL where teams are alot more technical.
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QUOTE(kazek @ Aug 27 2009, 11:46 AM)
Like the commentator on the night put it, "it was a penalty won rather than a penalty conceded". Boruc (Celtic's goalkeeper), the alleged offender never laid a finger on Eduardo.  blush.gif 

The ref was conned whistling.gif

I have to admit though, Eduardo is one hell of a Centre forward. He was getting on the end of things and causing all sorts of problems for the Celtic defenders
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Some quote from the article:
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Celtic midfielder Massimo Donati said: ‘If it is clear on television then UEFA must act against Eduardo and ban him. I think he should get a two-match suspension.

'It was not a penalty. I told him, and everyone in the Celtic team told him. But unfortunately it is part of football now. We can do nothing now because the referee gave it.

‘Eduardo did not say anything to me when I challenged him about the dive. He just put his fingers to his lips. It is not good when one guy does this. I feel sorry for Artur because he tried to make sure he did not touch him.

‘When the referee points to the spot, there’s nothing you can do. In life, you are either honest or not. It is better to be honest in your life. Some people are not like that.’

Donati pointed to Hearts winger Saulius Mikloiunas, who was given a two-match ban for diving by UEFA after winning a penalty for Lithuania against Scotland, while Rangers striker Kyle Lafferty is serving the same sentence for cheating against Aberdeen last May.
Full article:
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QUOTE(watever77 @ Aug 27 2009, 11:41 AM)
real eh  biggrin.gif  for me the weaker the teams the better  tongue.gif
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yeah, i would like to see arsenal finish top of the group. I think if against "last year" real madrid
we could've been favourite agains them. But i want our team to meet "the new look" real madrid.
p/s their recent game against Dortmund & Rosenborg show how their attack have improved a lot.

*we could've drawn against Lyon, Inter @ Juventus(but i dont want both my teams drawn in
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walaweh, a lot of crap is being shoved on eduardo after that. i cant say much about it tho since i'm still downloading the full game, but wth is this? we do one dive and then one load of crap is shoved onto us. we're now doing what we refused to do in the past few years, and now opponents dont like it?
i wont be surprised if fergie uses this in his next mind game.
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yeah, i would like to see arsenal finish top of the group. I think if against "last year" real madrid
we could've been favourite agains them. But i want our team to meet "the new look" real madrid.
p/s their recent game against Dortmund & Rosenborg show how their attack have improved a lot.

*we could've drawn against Lyon, Inter @ Juventus(but i dont want both my teams drawn in
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not just being top but maybe can rest important players also for other competition? hmm.gif and yeah the new look real madrid kind of scary too .. if draw against inter ill be happy since i have a grudge against jose back in his chelsea days tongue.gif i want arsene to kick his bu*tt this time biggrin.gif

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it was a clear dive, but in ref POV, the keeper was totally look like in eduardo way bcoz of his hand was on the ground and sliding towards eduardo. So the ref gave the penalty. I wouldnt be surprise if eduardo is ban for the next match.

the highlight is on the youtube. just check for the newest video "arsenal celtic"
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QUOTE(watever77 @ Aug 27 2009, 12:11 PM)
not just being top but maybe can rest important players also for other competition?  hmm.gif  and yeah the new look real madrid kind of scary too ..  if draw against inter ill be happy since i have a grudge against jose back in his chelsea days  tongue.gif  i want arsene to kick his bu*tt this time  biggrin.gif
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agree wit u on dis. If i remember we've never beat chelsea under jose right? sad.gif Inter-Arsenal going to be interesting too..
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why on earth real madrid on pot 2?
aren;'t they are favourites too?
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why on earth real madrid on pot 2?
aren;'t they are favourites too?
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My 2cents; its maybe based on performance on UCL/europe for past couple of season.. Real never get past
last 16 this past few season. That's why all EPL teams in the pot 1(they always march through quarters-semis-final)
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so heres the team and were in pot 1 guys .. anyone for wishing list ?  biggrin.gif

Pot 1                                               
1 FC Barcelona (ESP, holders)
2 Chelsea FC (ENG)               
3 Liverpool FC (ENG)                 
4 Manchester United FC (ENG)
5      AC Milan (ITA)
6 Arsenal FC (ENG)             
7 Sevilla FC (ESP)
8 FC Bayern München (GER)

Pot 2
9 Olympique Lyonnais (FRA)
10 FC Internazionale Milano (ITA)
11 Real Madrid CF (ESP)
12 PFC CSKA Moskva (RUS)
13 FC Porto (POR)
14 AZ Alkmaar (NED)
15 Juventus (ITA)
16 Rangers FC (SCO)

Pot 3
17 Olympiacos FC (GRE)
18 Olympique de Marseille (FRA)
19 FC Dynamo Kyiv (UKR)
20 VfB Stuttgart (GER)
21 ACF Fiorentina (ITA)
22 Club Atlético de Madrid (ESP)
23 FC Girondins de Bordeaux (FRA)
24 Beşiktaş JK (TUR)

Pot 4
25 VfL Wolfsburg (GER)
26 R. Standard de Liège (BEL)
27 Maccabi Haifa FC (ISR)
28 FC Zürich (SUI)
29 FC Rubin Kazan (RUS)
30 AFC Unirea Urziceni (ROU)
31 APOEL FC (CYP)
32 Debreceni VSC (HUN)

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Wow to be honest pot 2 is like a second pot 1 lol. I wouldn't mind any in pot 2 but would of course like to avoid the likes of Fiorentina and Atletico Madrid in pot 3 to avoid a group of death situation.
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i've dloaded the full match. i prefer to watch the full game rather than watch just the highlights so i can see better our players play smile.gif
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QUOTE(kazek @ Aug 27 2009, 11:46 AM)
Like the commentator on the night put it, "it was a penalty won rather than a penalty conceded". Boruc (Celtic's goalkeeper), the alleged offender never laid a finger on Eduardoblush.gif 

The ref was conned  whistling.gif

I have to admit though, Eduardo is one hell of a Centre forward. He was getting on the end of things and causing all sorts of problems for the Celtic defenders
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kazek bro, Boruc indeed did not lay a finger on Dudu but he did lay a knee on him tongue.gif

on a serious note, there are no mistaken that Dudu made the most of the incident and won the penalty for us. like SG said, it depends on your own perspectives. i thought there was definitely a contact however marginal that was. i'd prefer Dudu to not do whatever he did to win the penalty but we would have win anyway without the penalty incident

point to ponder, will it (the media reactions) be the same if some 'honest' English star i.e. Gerrard, Rooney etc would have done the same?

on the note side, i like Denilson's aggression last night thumbup.gif

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QUOTE(niuchin @ Aug 27 2009, 11:06 AM)
Bit No. 2 - It was a penalty even though it look like Eduardo embellished it. Ten times out of ten times in this situation  a forward will try to avoid being injured by 'flinging ' forward. Still I believe  Boruc shoulder glanced Edu's sideway trailing leg/side. Usually when a onrushing goalie  goes down collateral damage occurs unless  the forward  take or mitigate his collision. Hence as a referee I will call the penalty.


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IMHO. Only the goalie or Edu's know. If there is no contact at all there shouldn't be a penalty. Then I'm conned too. My apologies then. sweat.gif

Anyway all this is moot. Celtic was outplayed, downed 0-2, and would never have won at Emirates anyway.


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ramsey will not feature in the united game?
well, we really could cope with the injuries that we having at the moment
with fab,nasri,rosicky,silvestre and walcott. we are scoring more than 2 goals per game brows.gif
arshavin has added more ummph in our team, this guy will give a heck of a problem to our opponents.
i tink tis performance is largely contributed from the performance last season.we were without fabregas,walcott,eduardo due to long layoff
and this gives the other players to step into their shoes.
when we have creative players back,this allows players such diaby,gallas to move around abit.to allow our team to score from different sources.
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QUOTE(toshio14 @ Aug 27 2009, 01:08 PM)
kazek bro, Boruc indeed did not lay a finger on Dudu but he did lay a knee on him  tongue.gif

on a serious note, there are no mistaken that Dudu made the most of the incident and won the penalty for us. like SG said, it depends on your own perspectives. i thought there was definitely a contact however marginal that was. i'd prefer Dudu to not do whatever he did to win the penalty but we would have win anyway without the penalty incident

point to ponder, will it (the media reactions) be the same if some 'honest' English star i.e. Gerrard, Rooney etc would have done the same?

on the note side, i like Denilson aggression last night  thumbup.gif
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I replayed the video at 0.25 speed and it is possible that:
1) Eduardo was preparing to shoot as he had already laid his planting foot with full momentum before Boruc approaching him. If he were to kick, he would have hit Boruc at his face so he had no choice but to choose not to kick and what after that? He surely would fall naturally and yes he did.

2)If there was a contact, it would surely be Boruc's knee and Eduardo's right leg which was pulling away. But it is difficult to see if there is any contact because the ball was blocking it.

3)He has learnt to be more intelligent now. If he lets the keeper tackles him down easily chances are that he would be injured again. What he did is to avoid injury.

Haha, anyway, things like this can happen in football. Whether intended or not intended, the keeper shouldn't pull off a slide tackle like that because it would give chance to the referee to issue penalty.

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Denilson and Song were absolute class last night. My praises for Denilson is usually few and far between but he played a blinder last night. Song was again immense both in simplicity and tenacity.

And Vermaelen... What a player! I think its his personal goal to win every aerial duel during the match. The bigger the opposition, the bigger the motivation for him I think.

And yes, Eduardo dived but the way the commentator (with help frm the broadcast director) kept going on and on about it just sickens me. And now there are a few websites calling it a disgrace while the Celts want Dudu banned.

My reaction is... WTF? Stevie G does it. Wayne Rooney did it against us. Cristina Ronaldo lets not even go there. So why the manhunt on Eduardo? Its not as if it was a game changing incident. We were already 2-0 up on aggregate!

Really can't stand the English media...
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Eduardo dived but whether he dived for penalty or to avoid injury i dunno (sounds like Wenger, huh? lol)

I don't think he dived for penalty (would be different opinion if it was Eboue, lol), he's been through a horrible inury and i think he got that instinct to avoid anymore unnecessary injury.

Just happened that the ref gave it, I don't think he will complained if the ref has other opinion.

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... simply because whatever linked with Arsenal sells better whistling.gif


Yes, diving itself is bad. We as football fans, should condemn this act.

The problem is, it still happens. From history, unfortunately, we have tasted far too many kind treats from this act. Therefore, I can understand why some fans are happy with the win even with the alleged/reported dive.

No matter what the actions from UEFA or FA, please do it flat and square to EVERYONE, including those happened seasons ago ! Then we'll see some players have no chance to play for this season UCL whistling.gif


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Eduardo dived but whether he dived for penalty or to avoid is injury i dunno (sounds like Wenger, huh? lol)

I don't think he dived for penalty (would be different opinion if it was Eboue, lol), he's been through a horrible inury and i think he got that instinct to avoid anymore unnecessary injury.

Just happened that the ref gave it, I don't think he will complained if the ref has other opinion.
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Yes, the commentaries from the channel I watched the game mentioned that in certain situations, strikers/forwards have no choice but to jump or else they would be badly hurt during crashes with the GK - regardless if the GK has the right on the ball or not.


Imagine:

You are the striker chasing the ball of your possession, the GK rushes out and lands a heavy tackle (on the ball or you). What you can do:

1) Play the ball as normal but risking the possibility to be involved in a serious crash

2) Jump away and let the GK have the ball despite the ball is under your possession.

3) Jump and land carelessly to give an impression to the referee that a foul may has happened if you did not jump


What's your pick?


What I condemn the most are obvious dives, especially on the edge of the penalty box. The intention is clear: I'll get into the box with the ball, whatever touches me will send me to ground and I'll roll a meter away holding my leg and cry!


Well, this is a common topic and should discussed outside the Arsenal thread if you want more "unbiased" (or the opposite) inputs

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our defence looked eager to attack, haha it surprises me to see vermaelen sometimes being the target man. denilson and song was like sentinels flying everyone all across the pitch, denilson in particular had a very convincing game. a few class touches from the brazillian as well. eboue again is very eager to attack and good feign and composure for him to score that goal. eduardo playing in the center forward positions looks different than the time he plays at the left flank. i dunno, i think he can play both very well.

i like how we're scoring loads in all of our games so far, and yeah it's sort of worrying how we're not keeping lots of clean sheets. tho i still think the real test and nail biter is the next 2 games against manchesters
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Yes, the commentaries from the channel I watched the game mentioned that in certain situations, strikers/forwards have no choice but to jump or else they would be badly hurt during crashes with the GK - regardless if the GK has the right on the ball or not.
Imagine:

You are the striker chasing the ball of your possession, the GK rushes out and lands a heavy tackle (on the ball or you). What you can do:

1) Play the ball as normal but risking the possibility to be involved in a serious crash

2) Jump away and let the GK have the ball despite the ball is under your possession.

3) Jump and land carelessly to give an impression to the referee that a foul may has happened if you did not jump
What's your pick?
What I condemn the most are obvious dives, especially on the edge of the penalty box. The intention is clear: I'll get into the box with the ball, whatever touches me will send me to ground and I'll roll a meter away holding my leg and cry!
Well, this is a common topic and should discussed outside the Arsenal thread if you want more "unbiased" (or the opposite) inputs
Agreed. We don't want some serious injury like Petr Cech happened again if they crashed.
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Is good that we played in dirty ways, but I think eduardo was lucky. If I am the Celtic player, I will break his leg again.
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i dont think we will lose to celtic without goal from dudu..
hope he dont get banned from UEFA..
still early stages but good win!!!
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Comon la guys don't make excuses for Eduardo. I have never seen a dive as blatant as that for a long time now. When Babel dived and effectively knocked us out of the ECL or when Rooney dived which led to the end of our unbeaten run I don't see anyone doing the same ? If lets say McGeady did the same to us I'm sure all of you will be seething. And fact is that first goal was the turning point of the game. How sure are you people that we were going to win for sure without that goal? Yes we certainly were favourites but by no means guaranteed to win. Anything could have happened. I know its only natural you want to support the player from the club you love but I don't think Eduardo has any case for defense and lets be realistic. The replay says it all and what Eduardo did was clearly wrong. Just accept it. I hope Wenger has a very strong word with him about his future conduct on the pitch.

I do admit though that I agree with you guys that the pundits, media alike have gone overboard and have blown the situation out of proportion which is a shame. When the Gerrards or Rooneys or Drogbas do it game in game out its because they are "winners" and do whatever it takes to "win". All I can say is be prepared for not being awarded a penalty for a long time now that we've been targeted. Especially Eduardo. I remember after Pires dived in the match against Pompey he couldn't even buy a penalty with all the money in the world for a very long time.

I don't condone cheating or whatsoever of course but I'm actually pleased to see us get these kind of decisions and goals go our way for a change. We have always been on the receiving end in the past and its always nice to get that bit of luck once in awhile.
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yups.. definitely agreed... two wrongs don't make a right, and i hope arsenal doesn't that take that road.... we should win comprehensively, not in manner which is debatable...

i'm against the witch hunt that is happening now, but it doesn't make the act right in any way.
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where to download full match for arsenal celtic match?? my bittorrent not working... sad.gif sad.gif
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^ i had it off mininova, try searching for it there
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QUOTE(Thumpy Ick @ Aug 27 2009, 03:16 PM)
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yups.. definitely agreed... two wrongs don't make a right, and i hope arsenal doesn't that take that road.... we should win comprehensively, not in manner which is debatable...

i'm against the witch hunt that is happening now, but it doesn't make the act right in any way.
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Spot on. People always point at the likes of players from other teams diving and getting away with it. But that doesn't mean we should sink as low as they do. Again I hope Arsene has a word or two not only to Eduardo but to all of the other players in the squad as well.

Yeah the way these people are targeting Eduardo is certainly a shame. If anything the conduct of the media and pundits alike are even more of an embarrassment than the dive itself.

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i guess the sad thing for me is that i've always held eduardo in high esteem in terms of footballing ethics. he seemed to be that hardworking player, doesn't make much of a fuss, and was just interested in playing football... so now watching the dive, i feel kinda sad cause i thought that he would be a good example for the younger ones to follow, to prove that honest footballing still counts for something...
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QUOTE(lostasylum @ Aug 27 2009, 03:46 PM)
i guess the sad thing for me is that i've always held eduardo in high esteem in terms of footballing ethics. he seemed to be that hardworking player, doesn't make much of a fuss, and was just interested in playing football... so now watching the dive, i feel kinda sad cause i thought that he would be a good example for the younger ones to follow, to prove that honest footballing still counts for something...
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Sigh yeah which was why my first initial reaction when he took a tumble was "Penalty". Was both surprised and disappointed after viewing the replay. However I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt this time and I don't think he is a cheat. I still think he is an honest and a nice person. Back in the day Pires was a pretty honest chap apart from that Pompey incident and to be fair to Super Bobby he never repeated it again in an Arsenal shirt after that. So yeah, just hope he doesn't do it again.
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QUOTE(lostasylum @ Aug 27 2009, 03:46 PM)
i guess the sad thing for me is that i've always held eduardo in high esteem in terms of footballing ethics. he seemed to be that hardworking player, doesn't make much of a fuss, and was just interested in playing football... so now watching the dive, i feel kinda sad cause i thought that he would be a good example for the younger ones to follow, to prove that honest footballing still counts for something...
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yeah i felt the same way. i was really disappointed in him as i considered him to be one of the 'good guys' u know? now if eboue dived, i wouldn't really care coz its what i expect. sigh dudu.. you kinda ruined my happiness a little
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I don't know real story behind but statistically, we were not as desperate to score as Celtic. So, I do not see there is any urgency to risk your reputation for a penalty.

I may need to review the replay - but I have an assumption that Eduardo jumped to avoid being tackled badly hmm.gif
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dudu wont get banned wont he? seems like the whole of celtic wants him banned. this could be bad.. =(
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QUOTE(sigheart @ Aug 27 2009, 04:08 PM)
Sigh yeah which was why my first initial reaction when he took a tumble was "Penalty". Was both surprised and disappointed after viewing the replay. However I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt this time and I don't think he is a cheat. I still think he is an honest and a nice person. Back in the day Pires was a pretty honest chap apart from that Pompey incident and to be fair to Super Bobby he never repeated it again in an Arsenal shirt after that. So yeah, just hope he doesn't do it again.
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yeah i felt the same way. i was really disappointed in him as i considered him to be one of the 'good guys' u know? now if eboue dived, i wouldn't really care coz its what i expect. sigh dudu.. you kinda ruined my happiness a little
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yeah man.. i can totally relate to the feeling... =(
even though i don't think eduardo is a cheat, it's gonna be tough for him to rebuild that reputation of an honest, hardworking footballer again. just like pires.... non-arsenal fans remember him remember him for that dive more than anything else... but yeah, just hoping that this was an anomaly in an otherwise enterprising performance from him.

kaka91, hahahahahhahah.... i laughed when i read the part about eboue... but i must say that his goal was superbly taken. he seems to have found a new zest in the red and white shirt of the arsenal. i'm liking this new look, new feel arsenal.

and i think bendtner's backflick was totally awesome... some people make unfair comparisons between him and ade... but honestly, in terms of industry, ade's a slacker compared to bendtner. =)
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QUOTE(kaka91 @ Aug 27 2009, 04:58 PM)
dudu wont get banned wont he? seems like the whole of celtic wants him banned. this could be bad.. =(
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That we will have to wait and see if UEFA decides to take action. Technically they could hand him a ban for bringing the game into disrepute if they wanted to I guess.

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I think I've to watch the goals replayed on ESPN later today on Sportscenter. I hope dudu wasn't a 100% diving to get the penalty. Let's hope he comes out and clarify on the situation.
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That we will have to wait and see if UEFA decides to take action. Technically they could hand him a ban for bringing the game into disrepute if they wanted to I guess.
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thats soo unfair. other players have dived when playing us and they did not get punished. rooney. 49. vmad.gif and 2 seasons ago CL vs liverpool.
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I don't think there will be a ban. It's the referee and their officials who are unable to detect it. If they do it in the game then it's a yellow card. It's definitely not fair to ban the player.
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yeah man.. i can totally relate to the feeling... =(
even though i don't think eduardo is a cheat, it's gonna be tough for him to rebuild that reputation of an honest, hardworking footballer again. just like pires.... non-arsenal fans remember him remember him for that dive more than anything else... but yeah, just hoping that this was an anomaly in an otherwise enterprising performance from him.

kaka91, hahahahahhahah.... i laughed when i read the part about eboue... but i must say that his goal was superbly taken. he seems to have found a new zest in the red and white shirt of the arsenal. i'm liking this new look, new feel arsenal.

and i think bendtner's backflick was totally awesome... some people make unfair comparisons between him and ade... but honestly, in terms of industry, ade's a slacker compared to bendtner. =)
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please stop all this "i'm sad/disappointed with that 'dive'..". what happened to those complains about our capitan being kicked da whole game during da 1st leg?? honesty doesnt pay nowadays, i'm talking abt in football only, nothing to do with personality or whatsoever.. If u play football personally, u'll know how it feels when u're being rough-up. I believe Dudu is thinking more abt "it's payback time".. Actually it's not a bad thing, look at Drogba, he can dive anytime but at the same time, he's as strong as a bull. Now, for defender, he'll think "tackle him maybe resulting a penalty, closing him down also not an easy feat"..

It's pure stupidity for those who called him a cheat, i'd say 'exploit' more appropriately... tongue.gif ..From da ref point of view, Dudu was 'fouled', Linesman didnt say anything, so it's spotkick. It's FIFA who insist no video should be used, go blame FIFA then..

Nobody likes losing..Even our very own Le Boss used to be a bad loser but changed... biggrin.gif ..Celtic's players talked so much craps b4 da game but did they really up their game last nite? I think it's a no-contest. During last season or pre-season, there are so much hype abt we need to win ugly or play dirty more. Now, it really happens and everyone cries... doh.gif
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please stop all this "i'm sad/disappointed with that 'dive'..". what happened to those complains about our capitan being kicked da whole game during da 1st leg?? honesty doesnt pay nowadays, i'm talking abt in football only, nothing to do with personality or whatsoever.. If u play football personally, u'll know how it feels when u're being rough-up. I believe Dudu is thinking more abt "it's payback time".. Actually it's not a bad thing, look at Drogba, he can dive anytime but at the same time, he's as strong as a bull. Now, for defender, he'll think "tackle him maybe resulting a penalty, closing him down also not an easy feat"..

It's pure stupidity for those who called him a cheat, i'd say 'exploit' more appropriately... tongue.gif ..From da ref point of view, Dudu was 'fouled', Linesman didnt say anything, so it's spotkick. It's FIFA who insist no video should be used, go blame FIFA then..

Nobody likes losing..Even our very own Le Boss used to be a bad loser but changed... biggrin.gif ..Celtic's players talked so much craps b4 da game but did they really up their game last nite? I think it's a no-contest. During last season or pre-season, there are so much hype abt we need to win ugly or play dirty more. Now, it really happens and everyone cries... doh.gif
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dude, no one is saying it was fair that our players got kicked all over the pitch or that rooney's dive or gerard's dive was any better or justifiable. and yes, i'm sure many of us would join in the complaining and stating our distaste just like when eduardo broke his leg.
however, saying that it's ok for eduardo to dive because our players got kicked all over the pitch doesn't make the act right. again, like i said earlier, two wrongs don't make a right.

and yes, i do play football personally, and yes, i've been roughed up many times. i've dislocated my shoulder because of a challenge from an opponent player in a tournament before, so i know what i'm talking about it. but regardless, if i dived to win a penalty, the act is still wrong.

again, like what sigheart has mentioned, we weren't playing badly and we weren't in a desperate situation to score, so it makes the dive all that much harder to swallow. perhaps it was a spur of the moment, perhaps it was instinct, but whatever it is, it wasn't right. to me, i call a spade a spade.

but yes, i will agree that to label eduardo a cheat because of that one dive would be unfair.


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That we will have to wait and see if UEFA decides to take action. Technically they could hand him a ban for bringing the game into disrepute if they wanted to I guess.
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Donati believes Eduardo should be treated the same way as Lithuania striker Saulius Mikoliunas, who cheated to earn a spot-kick against Scotland at Hampden Park in September 2007. Video evidence was used by UEFA to punish Mikoliunas, who was given a two-match ban.

The SFA also used retrospective punishment to sanction Rangers striker Kyle Lafferty, who feigned being headbutted by Aberdeen defender Charlie Mulgrew during an SPL game in May. And SFA chief Smith wants UEFA to do the same with Eduardo.
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QUOTE(lostasylum @ Aug 27 2009, 05:55 PM)
dude, no one is saying it was fair that our players got kicked all over the pitch or that rooney's dive or gerard's dive was any better or justifiable. and yes, i'm sure many of us would join in the complaining and stating our distaste just like when eduardo broke his leg.
however, saying that it's ok for eduardo to dive because our players got kicked all over the pitch doesn't make the act right. again, like i said earlier, two wrongs don't make a right.

and yes, i do play football personally, and yes, i've been roughed up many times. i've dislocated my shoulder because of a challenge from an opponent player in a tournament before, so i know what i'm talking about it. but regardless, if i dived to win a penalty, the act is still wrong.

again, like what sigheart has mentioned, we weren't playing badly and we weren't in a desperate situation to score, so it makes the dive all that much harder to swallow. perhaps it was a spur of the moment, perhaps it was instinct, but whatever it is, it wasn't right. to me, i call a spade a spade.

but yes, i will agree that to label eduardo a cheat because of that one dive would be unfair.
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that was the main reason why i was really disappointed.if it was the last minute and celtic leading 2-0, and if dudu dived and won the game.. um.. i think i still will be upset, but it is a happy upset tongue.gif but 2-0 up, he did not have to do that. well whats done is done. on another note, i wish dudu had dived when taylor was coming at him at birmingham that day. heh
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the first one is the best.. updates daily.. enjoy biggrin.gif
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hmm
theres nth really much to talk about the issue already thou,its gone and over
sad that he dive?
dissapointed that he dive?
happy that he dive?

it doesnt matter any more
of course,nobody would encourage eduardo to do such thing...but it happen at times

if UEFA plans to take action on him,so be it
if not then he is lucky to get away with it
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spend more time to pray for our kapitan to be fit for OT even better




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im quite sad to saw a dive coming from arsenal player. our boss is a big fairplay supporter. sad.gif
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QUOTE(Quick` @ Aug 27 2009, 06:14 PM)
hmm
theres nth really much to talk about the issue already thou,its gone and over
sad that he dive?
dissapointed that he dive?
happy that he dive?

it doesnt matter any more
of course,nobody would encourage eduardo to do such thing...but it happen at times

if UEFA plans to take action on him,so be it
if not then he is lucky to get away with it
end of story

spend more time to pray for our kapitan to be fit for OT even better
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i rather he not be fit for MU coz if he is, he has to play for spain, where xabi alonso can injure him again... sad.gif better declare him unfit IMO
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i rather he not be fit for MU coz if he is, he has to play for spain, where xabi alonso can injure him again... sad.gif  better declare him unfit IMO
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i think it would be good to see if arsenal can hold their own against MU without having fabregas. the young ones have acquitted themselves well against celtic yesterday.... besides, if he's not fully recovered, i'd rather not risk it. i don't think we will be outplayed like we were last season in the CL.
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QUOTE(lostasylum @ Aug 27 2009, 06:20 PM)
i think it would be good to see if arsenal can hold their own against MU without having fabregas. the young ones have acquitted themselves well against celtic yesterday.... besides, if he's not fully recovered, i'd rather not risk it. i don't think we will be outplayed like we were last season in the CL.
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oh shut up already about the dive. lots of players dive.. heck even maradona used his hand to score the winning goal in World Cup. Nobody calling to banned him for life? fark la.. why the double standard?

Anyway, vermaelen was caught offside.. i LOL. hehehe

I'm quite worry about Sagna. Last nite, he got exposed a couple of times and that Donati goal was from his side. SAF will take note of that and use Evra/Rooney combo to attack on that side. it'll be a long hard day for Song and Sagna.


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Well, no Kieran Gibbs can already. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(sakaito @ Aug 27 2009, 06:37 PM)

Anyway, vermaelen was caught offside..  i LOL. hehehe

I'm quite worry about Sagna. Last nite, he got exposed a couple of times and that Donati goal was from his side. SAF will take note of that and use Evra/Rooney combo to attack on that side. it'll be a long hard day for Song and Sagna.
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Lol... I've noticed that for the past couple of games that our centerbacks end up in striking positions... Is this also a part of our new style of play? Lol...
Speaking of Vermaelen i'm actually very very impressed with the way he has settled into our defence but like i said, the real test comes this weekend...

Well, i think if wenger goes with his 4-3-3 against MU this weekend u won't get to see Evra romping down the left wing that often... He isn't the tallest of fullbacks and mayb our new system with Bendtner there will limit his forays forward thus providing some sort of cover for Sagna biggrin.gif
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"We got a penalty against us two years ago in the Quarter-Final of the Champions League that made the difference when Babel dived.. Nobody ever apologised to us, it was a blatant dive and nobody spoke about it..” AW vmad.gif vmad.gif



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Why they want to ban Eduardo? lots of player done that.We are not the only one.
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"We got a penalty against us two years ago in the Quarter-Final of the Champions League that made the difference when Babel dived.. Nobody ever apologised to us, it was a blatant dive and nobody spoke about it..” AW  vmad.gif  vmad.gif
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i cant forget that moment till this very day!!! mad.gif
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Celtic's calls to ban Dudu are merely harsh words spoken in a heat of a moment, just like how a furious Arsene lashed out at Taylor after he smashed Dudu's ankle.

When the mind's boiling, the mouth spews acid.

If the authorities decide to give Dudu a ban as punishment, then we cannot complain too much. But if that really occurs, then retrospective reviews and punishments should be made compulsory for every controversial diving incident from now on, not just when it happens to Arsenal. Again, no one gave a crap when Babel, RVN, and Rooney did it to us.

Let's see whether the authorities have the balls to do it or not.

The Old Trafford crowd will give Dudu lots of boo-missiles whenever he touches the ball this weekend. A winner from Dudu would shut 'em up nicely.

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QUOTE(sakaito @ Aug 27 2009, 06:37 PM)
oh shut up already about the dive. lots of players dive.. heck even maradona used his hand to score the winning goal in World Cup. Nobody calling to banned him for life? fark la.. why the double standard?

Anyway, vermaelen was caught offside..  i LOL. hehehe

I'm quite worry about Sagna. Last nite, he got exposed a couple of times and that Donati goal was from his side. SAF will take note of that and use Evra/Rooney combo to attack on that side. it'll be a long hard day for Song and Sagna.
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Harsh to blame the goal on Sagna. Yes the goal came from his side but if you noticed our defense had a pretty nice line apart from Gallas who was caught asleep and did not notice all his teammates had stepped up. Gallas should have stepped up and Donati would have been definitely offside. If anything it was Gallas who was at fault IMO. Pause when Loovens or whoever it was begins to lob the ball and you can clearly see it was poor positioning from Gallas. The slow mo replay clearly shows it was Gallas who played Donati onside as well a bit later into the video.

Then again I'll let Gallas off this one as he really looked knackered and tired towards the end. I guess its just a bit of fatigue creeping in at the end. Hope he will recover fully and be fresh by Saturday.

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i just watch the goal, one question, why no one celebrate together with arshavin when he score the 3rd goal, until gallas came?
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QUOTE(yogurt7 @ Aug 27 2009, 07:51 PM)
i just watch the goal, one question, why no one celebrate together with arshavin when he score the 3rd goal, until gallas came?
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hahaha, mayb because it in the end of the game plus every1 too tired to run over to him, cause he aint tht close to any1 also tht time laugh.gif

Btw, u know something i like about Ashavin is, he really know hw to use his body when against opponent, although he have a small figure. Although players like Bergkamp and the others know how to use their body well too, bt most of our young gun dont know hw
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QUOTE(jim18992 @ Aug 27 2009, 07:58 PM)
hahaha, mayb because it in the end of the game plus every1 too tired to run over to him, cause he aint tht close to any1 also tht time laugh.gif

Btw, u know something i like about Ashavin is, he really know hw to use his body when against opponent, although he have a small figure. Although players like Bergkamp and the others know how to use their body well too, bt most of our young gun dont know hw
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Yeah the way he used his low center of gravity to make a quick turn and shot was sweet. The shot itself lack power but he just took it so quickly. One touch and bang. Gave the defender and Boruc in particular no time to react.
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If ban Eduardo, then C.Ronaldo have to be banned for life already... He dives every weekend. LOL!
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QUOTE(StarGhazzer @ Aug 27 2009, 07:29 PM)
Celtic's calls to ban Dudu are merely harsh words spoken in a heat of a moment, just like how a furious Arsene lashed out at Taylor after he smashed Dudu's ankle.

When the mind's boiling, the mouth spews acid.

If the authorities decide to give Dudu a ban as punishment, then we cannot complain too much. But if that really occurs, then retrospective reviews and punishments should be made compulsory for every controversial diving incident from now on, not just when it happens to Arsenal. Again, no one gave a crap when Babel, RVN, and Rooney did it to us.

Let's see whether the authorities have the balls to do it or not.

The Old Trafford crowd will give Dudu lots of boo-missiles whenever he touches the ball this weekend. A winner from Dudu would shut 'em up nicely.

Anyway, Eboue wants to stay... we want Manu to stay too !!
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I agree with you bro.But in my opinion,after this incident. They might implement a new rule in diving. Instead of yellow card, they might be slap a ban on the player
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Y wanna ban Dudu? He didn't complain that he was fault. The referee only gives the penalty, Dudu didn't do anything wrong! I remember once agst liverpool Van Bronchorst fell down in the penalty box but he didn't complain and he got sent off. Even the liverpool players were shock on the sending off. So it's the referee mistake not the player. So the referee should be banned!
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QUOTE(sakaito @ Aug 27 2009, 06:37 PM)
oh shut up already about the dive. lots of players dive.. heck even maradona used his hand to score the winning goal in World Cup. Nobody calling to banned him for life? fark la.. why the double standard?

Anyway, vermaelen was caught offside..  i LOL. hehehe

I'm quite worry about Sagna. Last nite, he got exposed a couple of times and that Donati goal was from his side. SAF will take note of that and use Evra/Rooney combo to attack on that side. it'll be a long hard day for Song and Sagna.
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I think this is our defend tactic. Compare to Clichy, Sagna is better in terms of recovering the ball and tackling. I think if Sagna really in the game, our defend will be as solid as rock.By that time, our opponent will only play the bus tactic.We need to give them some room to attack in order to play our counter attack tactic
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if a player will get ban wins a penalty from a dive...what about a player score from a offside position? will get ban as well? lol...Celtic are just a bunch of crybabies because they unable to get themselves into this big money tournament...let them say what they want.

Let get over it to this weekend match...from what i see, the best lesson from both of the celtic's ties is the physical part in the game. Both of the game with celtic was quite rough and the team can hold them and fight them back. This is what we lack of in previous seasons where we were too often bullied by rough teams and ManU know how to use their physical play very well. We already have the qualities of doing deadly passing, and now with the addition of a little physical approach...we're very close to a complete team.
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QUOTE(paulhon @ Aug 27 2009, 08:32 PM)
Y wanna ban Dudu? He didn't complain that he was fault. The referee only gives the penalty, Dudu didn't do anything wrong! I remember once agst liverpool Van Bronchorst fell down in the penalty box but he didn't complain and he got sent off. Even the liverpool players were shock on the sending off. So it's the referee mistake not the player. So the referee should be banned!
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man i totally agree with u!
like what AW said, it might have been Dudu trying to avoid the contact from the keeper lest the incident (kaki patah) happened again!
it wasn't like he intentionally dive. and i just saw the news he might be ban for 2 games. this is injustice! vmad.gif
i think UEFA is whole lot of shit. it is Dudu is a scapegoat in this diving issue. When babel or gerrard dive no actions were taken. heck when other big names were diving here and there *cough*CristianoRonaldo*cough* no actions were taken. damn i m piss! mad.gif

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Anyone still remember who stop our 49 games unbeaten records???

Rooney dived get the first penalty......why no people complaint?? MCB!!
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QUOTE(punditski @ Aug 27 2009, 06:48 PM)
Lol... I've noticed that for the past couple of games that our centerbacks end up in striking positions... Is this also a part of our new style of play? Lol...
Speaking of Vermaelen i'm actually very very impressed with the way he has settled into our defence but like i said, the real test comes this weekend...

Well, i think if wenger goes with his 4-3-3 against MU this weekend u won't get to see Evra romping down the left wing that often... He isn't the tallest of fullbacks and mayb our new system with Bendtner there will limit his forays forward thus providing some sort of cover for Sagna biggrin.gif
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I'm worried about this weekend's game. All the media hype and attention about our form and now the ugly scenes over hyped by the media on eduardo is bound to make us the team to be beaten this weekend despite going away to man utd.

The scoreline for the past few games i think might flatter us abit and i still think despite impressing and improving, we still look quite vulnerable in defense. Defending as a team will be crucial.

contrary to the above quote, im worried that 4-3-3 IF we play too narrow which we did for some times, will expose our full backs and leave our wings more open. This has resulted in numerous times that our fullbacks have been left exposed. This threat is managed with the whole team pressing high up the pitch.. never the less im worried we will play into man utd's hands as utd use traditional full width with their wingers, valencia has caused us trouble last season depite being on the losing end at wigan (a game that i was at incidently =P ) Him and nani's pace and trickery on the counter attack will be of concern and esp if SAF decides to employ rooney down the wing again leaving berba and michael owen up front.. surely that might be of a nightmare considering last season's meeting. The only consolation i gather is that it may be easier for us to score..

i think the battle will be decided on how we take our chances and how well we defend .. as i think we're both likely to score and conceed. mayb the battle will be decided in midfield and if it is then we're odds on to win. our defense will have to be bullish to stand up against rooney, berba least not to let them run riot.

Mayb AW will field diaby to put him up against anderson if he plays as anderson is strong in midfield and has a lot of power play in him. Last couple of meetings cesc was over powered by the sheer force and direct running.
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ya ya ya. all about the divers.. enough la. i think EUFA won't take action because if they do, then Arsenal will have something to bring up to them on a later date. trust me..

what time la cabutan bertuah ECL? ehehe


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that's what i've been saying. the past few games we've seen our fullbacks got exposed.

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that's what i've been saying. the past few games we've seen our fullbacks got exposed.
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QUOTE(sigheart @ Aug 27 2009, 07:43 PM)
Harsh to blame the goal on Sagna. Yes the goal came from his side but if you noticed our defense had a pretty nice line apart from Gallas who was caught asleep and did not notice all his teammates had stepped up. Gallas should have stepped up and Donati would have been definitely offside. If anything it was Gallas who was at fault IMO. Pause when Loovens or whoever it was begins to lob the ball and you can clearly see it was poor positioning from Gallas. The slow mo replay clearly shows it was Gallas who played Donati onside as well a bit later into the video.

Then again I'll let Gallas off this one as he really looked knackered and tired towards the end. I guess its just a bit of fatigue creeping in at the end. Hope he will recover fully and be fresh by Saturday.

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I actually find it hard to blame Gallas for the goal. Sure, with hindsight it may seem that Gallas should have moved forward for the offside trap, but it's also easy to nitpick Bak for not covering Donati's run.

My point is, it was a wondershot by Donati which harshly speaking, on any other day it might just go wide instead of into the net.

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I agree with you bro.But in my opinion,after this incident. They might implement a new rule in diving. Instead of yellow card, they might be slap a ban on the player
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I don't think the authorities will have the balls to implement any rule. If they bothered, they would have done it long time ago.

Like Arsene, I agree with the use of instant video replays to aid referee decisions. Not that every single whistle blow should be reviewed, but only for difficult situations where goals are involved. It won't take much time to review anyway, 30 seconds to a minute will suffice, and this can easily be added on as extra time.
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Hopefully nani suffers from one of his off days then.... He can b very devastating when he's on form  whistling.gif
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Nani is not the main person i'm worry of. Its actually the workhorse of Rooney and Fletcher and to a certain extent Michael Carrick. These are the unsung heroes of the team, with the exception of Rooney who's pretty well received among the fans. When you cut out Fletcher, naturally you cut out the supply to Berbatov who's pretty tricky with his neat flicks and one touches inside the box. Man Utd is pretty dangerous inside the box with their almost perfect understanding between the strikers. Key to it is stopping the midfield workhorse. Another player worth mentioning is Evra and his penetrating run as he's a good crosser.

I think we'd probably flood the midfield and prolly play RVP as a lone striker with Arshavin dropping abit lower to give more support. NB52 could even start too, given his ability to hold the ball and willingness to take a run at defenders. Plus, his height is an asset in setpieces situations and will give Man Utd some worry especially now that people are starting to take notice of Vermaelen and our top goal scorer, William Gallas looking menacing.


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I hate to bring up the topic of Eduardo's dive again... But it just suddenly hit me, that after this incident last night, there is a possibility he might get an undeserved reputation as a diver.

I wont be surprised if referees choose to ignore any OTT challenges on the Croazilian for the next few games. Especially in places like Old Trafford or Anfield where there's always pressure from the home fans on referees.

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QUOTE(StarGhazzer @ Aug 27 2009, 09:42 PM)
I actually find it hard to blame Gallas for the goal. Sure, with hindsight it may seem that Gallas should have moved forward for the offside trap, but it's also easy to nitpick Bak for not covering Donati's run.

My point is, it was a wondershot by Donati which harshly speaking, on any other day it might just go wide instead of into the net.

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In Bak's defence he was merely following his teammates in pushing up for an offside trap. You don't track runners in an offside trap which would defeat the whole purpose of an offside trap if you do.

I don't know but to me if an offside trap fails it only means poor communication between defenders and in this case Gallas fell asleep. Everyone was clearly in line except for Gallas who was well out of position. And when I mean in line even the midfielders and strikers were all in their assigned positions. When the ball was played to Donati you can clearly see in the slow mo part of the video the shape of our team with the exception of Gallas sticking out like a sore thumb well out of position from the defensive line.

Yes, a wondershot but if Gallas was in position in the first place there might not even have been a wondershot.

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In Bak's defence he was merely following his teammates in pushing up for an offside trap. You don't track runners in an offside trap which would defeat the whole purpose of an offside trap if you do.

I don't know but to me if an offside trap fails it only means poor communication between defenders and in this case Gallas fell asleep. Everyone was clearly in line except for Gallas who was well out of position. And when I mean in line even the midfielders and strikers were all in their assigned positions. When the ball was played to Donati you can clearly see in the slow mo part of the video the shape of our team with the exception of Gallas sticking out like a sore thumb well out of position from the defensive line.

Yes, a wondershot but if Gallas was in position in the first place there might not even have been a wondershot.
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You guys going to the gathering? @redscorpion proposed we (united & Arsenal fan) gather together. So where you guys planning to gather?
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For a change, I might be able to join and watch live, rather than requesting highlights. Where's the proposed venue?
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For a change, I might be able to join and watch live, rather than requesting highlights. Where's the proposed venue?
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who are in our group?
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pot 3 has some strong teams there.. btw who are az alkmar? which league?

edit: oh.

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Can we have 1 german club please? biggrin.gif wolfsburg wink.gif


Added on August 28, 2009, 12:40 amgroup A is turning into the group of death

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Liverpool's group looks quite tough...


Added on August 28, 2009, 12:45 amAny guesses for best striker?

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Keeper - E. van der Sar
Defender - J. Terry
Midfielder - Xavi Hernandez
Striker - L. Messi

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We have Dutch and Belgium champs and Greek champs too...

edit: add Greek champs

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group A and C group of deaths...
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Your group is the group of death. Didn't check out the United group yet.


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Group A: Bayern Munich, Juventus, Bordeaux, Maccabi Haifa
Group B: MANCHESTER UNITED, CSKA Moscow, Besiktas, Wolfsburg
Group C: AC Milan, Real Madrid, Marseille, FC Zurich
Group D: CHELSEA, FC Porto, Atletico Madrid, APOEL
Group E: LIVERPOOL, Lyon, Fiorentina, Debrecen
Group F: FC Barcelona, Inter Milan, Dinamo Kiev, FC Rubin Kazan
Group G: Sevilla, RANGERS, Stuttgart, Unirea
Group H: ARSENAL, AZ Alkmaar, Olympiakos, Standard


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Group A: Bayern Munich, Juventus, Bordeaux, Maccabi Haifa
Group B: MANCHESTER UNITED, CSKA Moscow, Besiktas, Wolfsburg
Group C: AC Milan, Real Madrid, Marseille, FC Zurich
Group D: CHELSEA, FC Porto, Atletico Madrid, APOEL
Group E: LIVERPOOL, Lyon, Fiorentina, Debrecen
Group F: FC Barcelona, Inter Milan, Dinamo Kiev, FC Rubin Kazan
Group G: Sevilla, RANGERS, Stuttgart, Unirea
Group H: ARSENAL, AZ Alkmaar, Olympiakos, Standard

Man Utd and Arsenal are the luckiest compare to the rest tongue.gif
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QUOTE(ivanau88 @ Aug 28 2009, 12:59 AM)
Group A: Bayern Munich, Juventus, Bordeaux, Maccabi Haifa
Group B: MANCHESTER UNITED, CSKA Moscow, Besiktas, Wolfsburg
Group C: AC Milan, Real Madrid, Marseille, FC Zurich
Group D: CHELSEA, FC Porto, Atletico Madrid, APOEL
Group E: LIVERPOOL, Lyon, Fiorentina, Debrecen
Group F: FC Barcelona, Inter Milan, Dinamo Kiev, FC Rubin Kazan
Group G: Sevilla, RANGERS, Stuttgart, Unirea
Group H: ARSENAL, AZ Alkmaar, Olympiakos, Standard

Man Utd and Arsenal are the luckiest compare to the rest tongue.gif
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Look at the last team of each group.. Unfamiliar club to me..
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at least we didnt get FC Rubin Kazan or Unirea for the 4th seed...
if thats happen, i think we got the easiest group ever in our history....
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For me, group b is the group of death.

Manu - . nuff said.
Besikitas - turkey is always a tough place to go, chelsea lost in fernerbache 2 yrs ago and english club always have a trouble rolling over the turks.
Cska moscow - plastic pitch, an away trip to moscow in the winter could be brutal.
Wolfsburg - best team in bundesliga last season.
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remember a few seasons ago we struggled to beat fc thun of swiss...

eventually we did managed to beat them in both games (home & away) by a last gasp goals by bergy & pires...
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Actually.. we always tot we got easy group evry year until the match start...
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remember a few seasons ago we struggled to beat fc thun of swiss...

eventually we did managed to beat them in both games (home & away) by a last gasp goals by bergy & pires...
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No really.. this is our easiest group.. ever.  tongue.gif
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yup football is not played on paper is it?
but glad at least on paper it is easier

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but glad at least on paper it is easier

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QUOTE(he-sham @ Aug 28 2009, 01:08 AM)
remember a few seasons ago we struggled to beat fc thun of swiss...

eventually we did managed to beat them in both games (home & away) by a last gasp goals by bergy & pires...
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It was actually a last minute goal by the Iceman that won us the game. Pires scored early in the 2nd half and most of thought that the flood gates would open by then. How wrong were we  tongue.gif

And that was also the year we reached the final  smile.gif
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straight group for us and man utd.unlucky to liverpool and chelsea.i think they got tough group unless porto today is not the same porto last season and lyon is no longer big guys of europe.
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that champions league final year was a blur to me... maybe because i was busy preparing for an important exam? i cant remember why but i dont even know all the teams we beat to get there! all i remember is henry's blitz from the center of the pitch to score against Real Madrid, and fabregas's long range shot to defeat AC Milan. it's a pity we didnt win the cup that year, that would've been such a legendary campaign. i do remember fades about pak leman saving a penalty by riquelme too... wow what an epic story. is there like any highlights from that whole campaign? lol i'm always asking for highlights >_<

btw on our group, it looks really simple. i dont know much of the other 3, but olympiakos is probably the candidate to give us the most trouble. anyway, i dont think any of the three matches Celtic. tho we did get past celtic with a lot of luck in tact
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QUOTE(Thumpy Ick @ Aug 28 2009, 06:38 AM)
that champions league final year was a blur to me... maybe because i was busy preparing for an important exam? i cant remember why but i dont even know all the teams we beat to get there! all i remember is henry's blitz from the center of the pitch to score against Real Madrid, and fabregas's long range shot to defeat AC Milan. it's a pity we didnt win the cup that year, that would've been such a legendary campaign. i do remember fades about pak leman saving a penalty by riquelme too... wow what an epic story. is there like any highlights from that whole campaign? lol i'm always asking for highlights >_<

btw on our group, it looks really simple. i dont know much of the other 3, but olympiakos is probably the candidate to give us the most trouble. anyway, i dont think any of the three matches Celtic. tho we did get past celtic with a lot of luck in tact
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lol....bro u got it wrong bout the milan match....that was 2 years ago...we won 2-0 goals by cesc n adebayor.....then we frickin' lost to liverpool 4 a dubious penalty....till this day it hurts seeing that match especially b4 that stupid penalty theo walcott juz dribbled 5 liverpool players n pass 4 adebayor to score...woooo..that was special!!during the run 4 the champs league final in 2006 we did beat juventus (with patrick vieira in it) 2-0...the best goal was when robert pires tackled vieira 4 the ball n pass it to cesc who beat buffon.....that goal was wonderful too!!!but that was in the past....i truly believe this year is arsenal's year....there's something in the eyes of the players who r raring to go in every match n give it their all no matter if the player is a first teamer or a sub.....regarding the transfer window i hope AW do bring in a player with defensive qualities seeing that we do not have too much cover on that aspect.....n guys the gathering to watch the Man u match in Asia Cafe...is it still on??i want to join..... thumbup.gif
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Very kind draw for Arsenal. I wonder if AW is going to play the youngsters upon securing the group top spot.
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Easy group stage....easy game...
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In Bak's defence he was merely following his teammates in pushing up for an offside trap. You don't track runners in an offside trap which would defeat the whole purpose of an offside trap if you do.

I don't know but to me if an offside trap fails it only means poor communication between defenders and in this case Gallas fell asleep. Everyone was clearly in line except for Gallas who was well out of position. And when I mean in line even the midfielders and strikers were all in their assigned positions. When the ball was played to Donati you can clearly see in the slow mo part of the video the shape of our team with the exception of Gallas sticking out like a sore thumb well out of position from the defensive line.

Yes, a wondershot but if Gallas was in position in the first place there might not even have been a wondershot.
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Don't get me wrong, I'm not blaming Bak for the goal either. It was an example of how to nitpick mistakes by overanalysing and that's easier to do by replaying video clips over and over again - which is a luxury that our players on the pitch don't have. A final minute goal from a good shot hurts no more than the ego, and it doesn't take away the fact that all our defenders performed admirably over the two legs.

Anyway, Nike's got a new video for Theo...

Make the difference... Come on Theo, first of all you gotta be fit !!

Our CL group looks good on paper, but as always, teams who manage to get into CL won't be pushovers. Yet it's better to have an easy group rather than face off with bigshots like RM in the group stages.

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we'd been handled an easy group stage opponents.... less travelling as well... thumbup.gif

AC Milan and Real Madrid's group gonna be the one to watch.... rclxm9.gif
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another "boring" group for Le Gunners..hahaha. Of coz im fancy we meet more elite opponent like
Inter, Real, Juve, Lyon. But its oso good to get "easy opponent on paper" first. But anything can happen in football.
AZ alkmaar is quite strong team oso. Their similarity wit us not juz by their kit (red + white sleeves) tongue.gif
but they're oso attacking minded team juz like us
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another "boring" group for Le Gunners..hahaha. Of coz im fancy we meet more elite opponent like
Inter, Real, Juve, Lyon. But its oso good to get "easy opponent on paper" first. But anything can happen in football.
AZ alkmaar is quite strong team oso. Their similarity wit us not juz by their kit (red + white sleeves) tongue.gif 
but they're oso attacking minded team juz like us
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it is boring. but is good to us. Though they were weak compare to us.but we should not underestimate them.We must try to gain top spot by resting the key players.
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With the respect to the opponents..this is the easiesy draw that a team afford.

Passing group stage as Winner shouldnt b a huge problem. Hope we can maintain the form in euro and epl.
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it's an easy draw yes, but i hope the players won't make the mistake of thinking that the matches will be easy. they will still need to prove that arsenal deserve to be in the knockout stages of the CL.

let's hope the favourable draw will be used to our advantage, especially when we're planning a simultaneous assault on the EPL and also the FA Cup... =)


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I do not believe this is "another" boring group for the Gunners. We are used to the more challenging groups all these while.

The good news about the less challenging UCL group for us is that we can reserve some players to concentrate on the BPL/EPL challenge.

During these UCL group period, I just hope we can get maximum points in BPL/EPL because after all, BPL/EPL should be our highest priority.
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AZ is a good team. dont look down at the opponent, anything could happen.
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hmm.. arsenal scoring less and less goals after starting the campaign?
i hope they dont run out of stim..

from 6-1, then 4-1.. then 3-1..
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Looks like an easy draw for us, but my main concern is more on the travelling, had we drawn teams from the eastern europe or those from the extreme cold weathered Russian team. Travelling to such extreme weathered countries to play, tho on the papers is easy, isn't as easy as we would like to think it is because of the long travelling time, the cold weather and you tend to not play to your ability with that kinda weather. And you come back from it, have to face a tough English team and you kinda suffer abit whether home or away.

So i'm kinda glad we got a decent draw with teams from Holland, Belgium and Greece, which are not too harsh in environment. But there's always danger is underestimating your opponent. So we still got to be careful in that sense. No team is favourites in UCL.
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QUOTE(noir7559 @ Aug 28 2009, 08:26 AM)
another "boring" group for Le Gunners..hahaha. Of coz im fancy we meet more elite opponent like
Inter, Real, Juve, Lyon. But its oso good to get "easy opponent on paper" first. But anything can happen in football.
AZ alkmaar is quite strong team oso. Their similarity wit us not juz by their kit (red + white sleeves) tongue.gif 
but they're oso attacking minded team juz like us
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AZ Alkmaar are strong..as u say. hopefully Gunner can get them in Semi rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(giotto @ Aug 28 2009, 10:29 AM)
So i'm kinda glad we got a decent draw with teams from Holland, Belgium and Greece, which are not too harsh in environment. But there's always danger is underestimating your opponent. So we still got to be careful in that sense. No team is favourites in UCL.
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Why adopt such a negative mindset when we have been locking horns with Europe's biggest clubs for the past decade and emerged with records on numerous occasions i.e. consecutive clean sheets and dazzling victories against teams like Real Madrid, Inter Milan and AC Milan?

We are among the contenders, just that we have to take things one step at a time.
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guys...

all our opponents are champions for their respective leagues last season. So, they are no pushover. Standard Liege gave liverpool a run for their money last season. AZ can be the dark horse and they play much like us using the 4-3-3. Olympiakos always tricky fixture and their defense is top class. Last season, if not mistaken, they had the most clean sheet in Greek league. So, Do not be complacent and think we're thru to knock out stages already. Win 4 games first, then we'll talk.


Added on August 28, 2009, 12:40 pmbtw.. fark la.. Cesc in Spain squad... haih...

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id...cup2010&cc=4716


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QUOTE(giotto @ Aug 28 2009, 10:29 AM)
Looks like an easy draw for us, but my main concern is more on the travelling, had we drawn teams from the eastern europe or those from the extreme cold weathered Russian team. Travelling to such extreme weathered countries to play, tho on the papers is easy, isn't as easy as we would like to think it is because of the long travelling time, the cold weather and you tend to not play to your ability with that kinda weather. And you come back from it, have to face a tough English team and you kinda suffer abit whether home or away.

So i'm kinda glad we got a decent draw with teams from Holland, Belgium and Greece, which are not too harsh in environment. But there's always danger is underestimating your opponent. So we still got to be careful in that sense. No team is favourites in UCL.
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brilliant point raised. and to a certain extent, i feel that united's gruelling group which includes a trip to russia and also to turkey will be good for arsenal. imagine if we got that group and bergkamp was still playing... hahah... sigh, the good old memories of the non-flying dutchman... =)


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Why adopt such a negative mindset when we have been locking horns with Europe's biggest clubs for the past decade and emerged with records on numerous occasions i.e. consecutive clean sheets and dazzling victories against teams like Real Madrid, Inter Milan and AC Milan?

We are among the contenders, just that we have to take things one step at a time.
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personally, i would tend to agree with giotto's POV. after all, all the teams in the CL are there by merit, because they are good. so to say that arsenal are favourites are somewhat premature. i'm guessing he's not being negative. he's just being cautious and realistic at the same time.

besides, despite being able to lock horns with europe's elite clubs, we still do not have the one thing that matters to say that "we've done it and won". we don't have the CL trophy.

for me, i will take each game at a time, all the while being quietly confident that this season represents a fantastic opportunity for arsenal. =)

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hehee.. non flying dutchman... wait the minute.. the flying dutchman is a ship.. not airplane. hahahaha

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why all our opponents are the league winners of their leagues? i have nvr heard of az alkmaar.. any notable players there? whoa.. their kits same colour as us.. home red and white. away blue.

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size L look big on a 180 cm guy heh?...i notice even M also the sides very 'labuh', look like pj, but i normally wear size 'L' sad.gif
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bro kimhoong...is there no one planning to make a gathering on the Man Utd vs Arsenal match at Asia Cafe??i want to join...huhuhu
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The match is on midnight right?

Anyawy Kimhoong I'll be watching movies that night, not sure if it's possible to reach wangsa maju to catch the match on time.

Still on? ANybody wanna join us at wangsa maju?
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OK,

We'll have 2 venues for the time being smile.gif

1. Asia Cafe, Subang Jaya
- RyanAtwood

2. BRJ, Wangsa Maju
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- kimhoong (TBC)


Note: no guarantee but somehow and somebody have to start it first smile.gif
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i'll be around sunway/subang area. ryan.. maybe can join. my fren all MU. eheheh... asia cafe? provided there's space.. can la. pm me ur number leh..

where's iglue?
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QUOTE(kimhoong @ Aug 28 2009, 03:52 PM)
OK,

We'll have 2 venues for the time being smile.gif

1. Asia Cafe, Subang Jaya
- RyanAtwood

2. BRJ, Wangsa Maju
- Gr3yL3gion
- kimhoong (TBC)
Note: no guarantee but somehow and somebody have to start it first smile.gif
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haha....i don't mind whether the venue's at asia cafe or BRJ....seeing that bro kimhoong the thread moderator is at wangsa maju...then i would like to join u guys!!hehehe....bro kimhoong,put me in the list of BRJ.....n cancel my appereance at asia cafe seeing im the only one there.... laugh.gif


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QUOTE(sakaito @ Aug 28 2009, 03:59 PM)
i'll be around sunway/subang area. ryan.. maybe can join. my fren all MU. eheheh... asia cafe? provided there's space.. can la. pm me ur number leh..

where's iglue?
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oops....didn't see ur reply....hahah....i thought i was the only one at AC.....will get back to u on that...

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1. Asia Cafe, Subang Jaya
- RyanAtwood
- sakaito
- iglue
- lynixx

2. BRJ, Wangsa Maju
- Gr3yL3gion
- kimhoong (TBC)

HOYEAHHHHH LETS GOOOOOOOOO
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huhuhuh.. gotta get there early and watch the early game. if not, sure penuh ooo in front of the big screen. here hoping for a clear nite.. no rain please!
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QUOTE(iglue @ Aug 28 2009, 05:59 PM)
1. Asia Cafe, Subang Jaya
- RyanAtwood
- sakaito
- iglue
- lynixx

2. BRJ, Wangsa Maju
- Gr3yL3gion
- kimhoong (TBC)

HOYEAHHHHH LETS GOOOOOOOOO
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ok, we'll stick to this list for the time being.

Please PM RyanAtwood (Asia Cafe) or Gr3yL3gion (BRJ) for further communication and arrangements smile.gif
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sad.gif so fun.. i have to be at home watching on the comp. still, cant wait for tmr!
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QUOTE(kimhoong @ Aug 28 2009, 03:52 PM)
OK,

We'll have 2 venues for the time being smile.gif

1. Asia Cafe, Subang Jaya
- RyanAtwood

2. BRJ, Wangsa Maju
- Gr3yL3gion
- kimhoong (TBC)
Note: no guarantee but somehow and somebody have to start it first smile.gif
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Can give me directions to BRJ, Wangsa Maju from Ampang. Only place I know in Wangsa Maju is an LRT station where at night there's lots of food stalls patronized by TAR college students.
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QUOTE(iglue @ Aug 28 2009, 05:59 PM)
1. Asia Cafe, Subang Jaya
- RyanAtwood
- sakaito
- iglue
- lynixx
- nlz | lanpakali

2. BRJ, Wangsa Maju
- Gr3yL3gion
- kimhoong (TBC)

HOYEAHHHHH LETS GOOOOOOOOO
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hope bro 'quick's coming too =/

anyway will be there as early as the liverpool game =)

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