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TSNightstalker1993
post Aug 12 2009, 01:39 PM, updated 16y ago

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Huhu, V2 already! rclxm9.gif

will update the first post with useful links later at night lol.

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Hello, I am a new collector. You will see me slowing starting to buy new flashlight. biggrin.gif It's addictive. I will show my collection later.. smile.gif Any member from Miri or Kuching?

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ooo... new thread... new era... new flashlight... new gathering... rclxms.gif
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I am proud of our flashlight/torchlight community. We qualify for V2! biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(jwyj @ Aug 12 2009, 04:10 PM)
Hello, I am a new collector. You will see me slowing starting to buy new flashlight.  biggrin.gif  It's addictive. I will show my collection later..  smile.gif  Any member from Miri or Kuching?
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I'm based in Miri. Welcome to the Bright Side. Please show us your collection.
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Woo! V2... Time to get a new light!
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post Aug 14 2009, 12:29 AM

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My humble collection! Nothing like super unique or anything though.

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post Aug 14 2009, 01:50 AM

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wah, the tritium keychain looks huge compared to the first 2 lights laugh.gif
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haha, its actually the angle.
It's slightly longer than half and thinner than the lights.
And i still find it strange that it just keeps glowing non-stop cuz i'm so used to having GITD stuff that fades off quickly.
It would be awesome if the vials are available here but they're just too expensive.
Imagine what we can do with a lot of trit vials...
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I notice the surefires are rather cheaper in Amazon US, so I'm buying a few and have them sent to my uncle's house. They will bring them to Malaysia when they come and visit later. rclxms.gif Sorry for their bad photography. Which other brands are worth buying in US?

Also got the low end model of fenix from gadgetworld2u, EagleTac from Philightsophy, Tiablo from justin78 plus a whole lot of LEds flashlights from pstan82, flashaholics, newspp, lelong seller etc.. Few lots still on the posts.


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post Aug 14 2009, 09:17 AM

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Wah..selamba only saying that ur buying a 'few' surefires. tongue.gif
All the brands also pretty ok, just sometimes an individual model has issues.
In the US you might want to go for the customs, check out the cpf forum.
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QUOTE(strinq @ Aug 14 2009, 09:17 AM)
Wah..selamba only saying that ur buying a 'few' surefires. tongue.gif
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Oil-rich sheikh from Miri lol. hehehe

I also collect a few Surefire, E2DL, 6P Original, 6P defender, Z2 & C2. For the drop-in I bought from Flasholic from Penang, Petunia from Sabah (including the SMO reflector) and Justin78 for 3SD Dereelight.

In terms of throw, I would go for Petunia P60 LED and SMO refelector. I can goes more than 150metres with very bright hotspot. For battery saving and bright & good spill, I would say 3SD Dereelight. It has three stage function and R2 LED.


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Hmmm, if i were to get a surefire, which one would you guys recommend?
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QUOTE(strinq @ Aug 14 2009, 01:32 PM)
Hmmm, if i were to get a surefire, which one would you guys recommend?
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http://www.amazon.com/SureFire-9P-Original...50228231&sr=8-1

http://www.amazon.com/SureFire-Executive-D...50228240&sr=8-2

Those ones? Non LED are cheaper. hmm.gif
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QUOTE(strinq @ Aug 14 2009, 01:32 PM)
Hmmm, if i were to get a surefire, which one would you guys recommend?
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Definitely the M6.
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HI all in V2 hahahaha
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Wow v2 finally, feel like this is forever, but now we are here, hooray!
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Is there any tax on flashlights? Planning to get one from Amazon US.
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There is some mention of customs and taxation in V1 of this thread by relfnulf. The search function is your best friend smile.gif
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Received my Jetbeam RRT2 and M1X from Nexro at Tesco Extra Cheras this morning. The RRT2 has more noticeable Cree rings. The RRT1 has better beamshot. I will test the M1X later tonight using 2x18650
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wah, zainal is on a shopping spree... smile.gif
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QUOTE(strinq @ Aug 14 2009, 01:32 PM)
Hmmm, if i were to get a surefire, which one would you guys recommend?
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6P or G2 for incan or modding.
L1 for LED.


QUOTE(Crazy.SoT.Gila @ Aug 15 2009, 02:32 AM)
Is there any tax on flashlights? Planning to get one from Amazon US.
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Yes. 10% sales tax for stuff above RM1000. If less usually will pass but customs might just tax you anyway. =D
Why Amazon? Isn't it expensive? Esp. the shipping.
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post Aug 16 2009, 12:25 AM

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hoho. just came back from a bbq just now.

my ET performed nicely with the diffuser!

on low, it lit up the whole table, while hanging on the top of the pondok we're at. laugh.gif
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after a long wait... finally got my Maha C9000... thumbup.gif
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The GP Recyko+ AAA in the photo has died on me 3 months ago, it won't charge in standard GP charger. Now it's been resurrected by Maha C9000, after 12 long hours of Refresh and Analyze. I'm a believer now. notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(RookieDaddy @ Aug 16 2009, 05:21 AM)
after a long wait... finally got my Maha C9000...  thumbup.gif
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The GP Recyko+ AAA in the photo has died on me 3 months ago, it won't charge in standard GP charger. Now it's been resurrected by Maha C9000, after 12 long hours of Refresh and Analyze. I'm a believer now.  notworthy.gif
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told ya' it worked laugh.gif

revived my Eneloops from 30% capacity to almost 100%!

and for the rest of the guys, that batt there is a normal AAA. Imagine how HUGE that charger is! rclxub.gif

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Ahhh, V2. Nice to be here as well.

When's our next gathering?

Once I get my Ti!


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Ti Quarks on the MARKETPLCE for LESS THAN USD100 with XP-G EMITTERS!! drool.gif drool.gif drool.gif

http://www.cpfmarketplace.com/mp/showthread.php?t=198575

Limited run of only 500 pieces! drool.gif
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QUOTE(Nightstalker1993 @ Aug 16 2009, 12:40 PM)
and for the rest of the guys, that batt there is a normal AAA. Imagine how HUGE that charger is! rclxub.gif
yep... it's BIG! here is a comparison picture of the charger to gives you a better perspective...
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From left:
- GP Recyko+ Quick Charger (Charging in pair of 2, 6 hrs+)
- GP PowerBank H500
- Maha C9000
- Sony CyberEnergy Quick Charger (Individual charging, 7 hrs+)
- Sanyo Refresh Charger Model MQR03RNU (Shared charging channel, single cell charging possible)

QUOTE(Nightstalker1993 @ Aug 16 2009, 10:57 PM)
Ti Quarks on the MARKETPLCE
hmmm... interesting... polkiuj, any insights into whether 4Sevens will put in any thermal management on these XPG quarks?

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QUOTE(zainalklj @ Aug 15 2009, 05:10 PM)
Received my Jetbeam RRT2 and M1X from Nexro at Tesco Extra Cheras this morning. The RRT2 has more noticeable Cree rings. The RRT1 has better beamshot. I will test the M1X later tonight using 2x18650
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wow that is alot of moneyflies.gif moneyflies.gif sweat.gif sweat.gif

but jetbeam are nice n well built thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(RookieDaddy @ Aug 17 2009, 12:00 AM)
yep... it's BIG! here is a comparison picture of the charger to gives you a better perspective...
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From left:
- GP Recyko+ Quick Charger (Charging in pair of 2, 6 hrs+)
- GP PowerBank H500
- Maha C9000
- Sony CyberEnergy Quick Charger (Individual charging, 7 hrs+)
- Sanyo Refresh Charger Model MQR03RNU (Shared charging channel, single cell charging possible)
hmmm... interesting... polkiuj, any insights into whether 4Sevens will put in any thermal management on these XPG quarks?
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QUOTE(Nightstalker1993 @ Aug 16 2009, 12:40 PM)
told ya' it worked laugh.gif

revived my Eneloops from 30% capacity to almost 100%!

and for the rest of the guys, that batt there is a normal AAA. Imagine how HUGE that charger is! rclxub.gif
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mind telling who's selling the charger?

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QUOTE(Nightstalker1993 @ Aug 16 2009, 10:57 PM)
Ti Quarks on the MARKETPLCE for LESS THAN USD100 with XP-G EMITTERS!! drool.gif drool.gif drool.gif

http://www.cpfmarketplace.com/mp/showthread.php?t=198575

Limited run of only 500 pieces! drool.gif
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Ordered a 123^2 to see how well it's made.

I believe all Quarks have thermal management.

If I don't like it once it gets here (in a month or two) I'll sell it to whomever is interested!

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Hmm Quarks? Looks kinda cun... Haha

Ooh.. Just got my very first Mini Mag mod from surefire v led.

Feels solid and has a decent output for a good runtime! Wat i needed as an EDC.
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QUOTE(K-o-E @ Aug 17 2009, 08:52 AM)
mind telling who's selling the charger?
I got mind during the KLPF from ShaShinKi.com. biggrin.gif

QUOTE(refnulf @ Aug 17 2009, 09:19 AM)
I believe all Quarks have thermal management.
huh? i thought they are only "planning" to put thermal management into the MC-E range, these Quarks can run hot and 4Sevens was proud to says that the circuit will regulate the power input so that you get "light will never dim until your battery is fully depleted"? tongue.gif
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Wow! You guys are fast!

Haha!

I've opened a second order. =D






Rookiedaddy, Wow! Nice man! Maybe I can send you my Energizers and Unirosses. =D

Refnulf, I don't think they do. But I dunno. Never seen it dim down when hot. So, when you gonna get your Quarks? Need me to send to U? =D
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QUOTE(polkiuj @ Aug 17 2009, 09:51 AM)
Refnulf, I don't think they do. But I dunno. Never seen it dim down when hot. So, when you gonna get your Quarks? Need me to send to U? =D
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Gotta come collect it from you. This weekend okay?

I'll call you later to confirm.


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yup i got the maha chargers as well from KLPF.
so the refresh & analyze took 12 hours !
so i will try my dead nimh on this charger smile.gif
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Can I ask if most flashlight that uses 2 x RCR123 can also use 18650 batteries? For example this quark 123^2? Thanks.
I'nm thinking of not buying any that uses CR123 batteries only.
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You have to check the details of the light itself, they're all over the web.
The quarck doesn't take 18650's
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QUOTE(jwyj @ Aug 17 2009, 01:32 PM)
Can I ask if most flashlight that uses 2 x RCR123 can also use 18650 batteries? For example this quark 123^2? Thanks.
I'nm thinking of not buying any that uses CR123 batteries only.
Quark 123² can use 17670, 18650 can't fit.
Most flashlights that uses 2 x RCR123 (16340) or 2 x CR123A can use 1 x 17670 (e.g. Surefire LED range). With some, you can also use 1 x 18650 (e.g. EagleTac, JetBeam) if it explicitly said so. However, do note that not all cells are made the same length and width. That 1mm width between 16340 and 17670 could be an issue in fitting for some lights. Do NOT force the cell in if it doesn't fit, even when it's already half-way in. flex.gif
A tip from AW for his AW protected cells, you can remove the sticker label to reduce the cell's diameter. This has work for fitting AW 17500s into my Fenix TA30. brows.gif

Note: all references are made to protected Li-Ion cells. smile.gif
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OK, thank you. That's the problem with flashlight collection, there are just too many different types of batteries and chargers requires....

So, the best replacement for 2 x RCR123/CR123A is to use 1 x 17670, ie, the quark 123^2 can take this 17670, correct? hmm.gif

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It is always best to check on the specs whether the light is able to run on specific types of batteries. If it is not specified by the manufacturer, a check in CPF is your best bet. Those 'ang mohs' really ask all sorts of questions pertaining to power configurations for their lights.


Added on August 17, 2009, 5:11 pmHey guys, if anyone is interested in a 18650-capable SF U2A, I have one for sale currently here : For Sale. Also some other small stuff. Please let me know if you are interested.

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QUOTE(jwyj @ Aug 17 2009, 03:25 PM)
So, the best replacement for 2 x RCR123/CR123A is to use 1 x 17670
Most of the time, yes. brows.gif But as you get to research more, you will come to realise that there are a few more factors that determine compatible form factor replacement, e.g. Voltage, discharge current, etc.

QUOTE(jwyj @ Aug 17 2009, 03:25 PM)
the quark 123^2 can take this 17670, correct?  hmm.gif
Right! And our local LYN member is selling these: justin78

EDIT: my bad doh.gif , actually, given the choice, the best rechargeable replacement for 2 RCR123/CR123A is to use 1 x 18650 IF the body can accomodate the cell. 18650 cell has higher capacity and thus gives you longer runtime over 17670 cell. I like what Olight and EagleTac has done in their 18650 offering where they include a battery magazine for 2 x RCR123/CR123A to reduce the rattling in the battery tube. thumbup.gif

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There are two important factors to consider whether 2xCR123 or 2xRCR123 can be replaced with 1x18650

1. The LED driver rating e.g 2.6v - 6v
2. The Flashlight bore dimension

If the LED driver rating is 2.6v - 6v yes we can use 1x18650 (3.7V) provided the bore size can accomodate it. (normally the length is accommodating due to springs at the tailcap or even both at the tailcap and LED assembly. If the bore size is smaller diameter, then 1x17670 (also 3.7v) can be used.

My favorite for Surefire is 17670 instead of CR123.
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QUOTE(RookieDaddy @ Aug 18 2009, 09:43 AM)
EDIT: my bad  doh.gif , actually, given the choice, the best rechargeable replacement for 2 RCR123/CR123A is to use 1 x 18650 IF the body can accomodate the cell. 18650 cell has higher capacity and thus gives you longer runtime over 17670 cell. I like what Olight and EagleTac has done in their 18650 offering where they include a battery magazine for 2 x RCR123/CR123A to reduce the rattling in the battery tube.  thumbup.gif
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I think I jump in too fast. I've spent too much $$ buying all sorts of branded and non branded flashlights. I should go slower and do it systematically, such as trying to group them into battery sizes.
I will probably concentrate my collection into groups according to battery sizes.

1) 3 x AAA only,
2) 2 x AA only,
3) 1 x 18650 only,
4) 2 x 18650 only.


Added on August 19, 2009, 10:18 am
QUOTE(zainalklj @ Aug 18 2009, 02:24 PM)
If the LED driver rating is 2.6v - 6v yes we can use 1x18650 (3.7V) provided the bore size can accomodate it. (normally the length is accommodating due to springs at the tailcap or even both at the tailcap and LED assembly. If the bore size is smaller diameter, then 1x17670 (also 3.7v) can be used.

My favorite for Surefire is 17670 instead of CR123.
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Maybe I will also add in,
5) 17670 too, since I ordered a few Surefire in US.

I will forget about single AAA or or single AA or 123 or C or D batteries sized flashlights. rclxms.gif

My current favourite are 18650 battery based flashlights. whistling.gif

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I also went thru the same problems in standardizing my lights based on battery size. That works, but only up to a certain point. Going for lights that can take both primaries and rechargeables is the way to go. That way, I can use them on rechargeables when I'm home and take the primaries with me when I go travelling in which case I don't have to bring the charger. My standard battery types now are CR123, RCR123, P17670 and (P)18650s. I try to avoid 3x123 lights and have none of those at the moment.

jwyj, what Surefires are you getting from the US?
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Batteries, brightness, size, run-times, beam......

So many to choose from!

Haha!

I still haven't played with any 18650 lights yet. I 'de-modded' my ET T10LC2 to not accept 18650 xD.
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Added on August 19, 2009, 11:35 am
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I also went thru the same problems in standardizing my lights based on battery size. That works, but only up to a certain point. Going for lights that can take both primaries and rechargeables is the way to go. That way, I can use them on rechargeables when I'm home and take the primaries with me when I go travelling in which case I don't have to bring the charger. My standard battery types now are CR123, RCR123, P17670 and (P)18650s. I try to avoid 3x123 lights and have none of those at the moment.

jwyj, what Surefires are you getting from the US?
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But doesn't rechargable batteries last longer?

I got the cheapest that I can find in Amazon,

1) G2 original - USD 34.98
2) 6P LED - USD69.99
3) TerraLux 220LED - USD33.94
4) G2Z original - USD64.99
5) E2E original - USD69.00

Maybe plus 2 or 3 more, but I will limit the price of each to <USD70.

Streamlights seems to be popular too, but too many choices. I only want to get those hard-to-find in Malaysia flashlights.

Others I can buy in this forums.

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QUOTE(jwyj @ Aug 19 2009, 11:27 AM)
I got the cheapest that I can find in Amazon,

1) G2 original - USD 34.98
2) 6P LED - USD69.99
3) TerraLux 220LED - USD33.94
4) G2Z original - USD64.99
5) E2E original - USD69.00

Maybe plus 2 or 3 more, but I will limit the price of each to <USD70.

Streamlights seems to be popular too, but too many choices. I only want to get those hard-to-find in Malaysia flashlights.

Others I can buy in this forums. smile.gif
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Whoa! That's a lot of lights! Won't shipping from Amazon be very expensive? Why not buy from Ebay or some online retailer?

How much are you paying for shipping?
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QUOTE(polkiuj @ Aug 19 2009, 11:35 AM)
Whoa! That's a lot of lights! Won't shipping from Amazon be very expensive? Why not buy from Ebay or some online retailer?

How much are you paying for shipping?
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Those are the lights I already bought, all cost including shipping to my Uncle's house in Houston, US. He will bring them to Malaysia when he visit me end of the year or next year... sad.gif sad.gif

Early this year I got a whole lot of Vitorinox & Leatherman multitools plus 10 AAA/AA maglites. Luckily, customs/immigration not interested. rclxms.gif rclxms.gif

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hye guys... looking for super thrower (the cool white -- is it the yellowish one?) and a good charger along with 2x 16850 batteries... icon_idea.gif
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QUOTE(jwyj @ Aug 19 2009, 11:27 AM)
1) G2 original - USD 34.98
2) 6P LED - USD69.99
3) TerraLux 220LED - USD33.94
4) G2Z original - USD64.99
5) E2E original - USD69.00
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Ooo ... that's a lot of Surefires
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QUOTE(sniper69 @ Aug 19 2009, 11:52 AM)
hye guys... looking for super thrower (the cool white -- is it the yellowish one?) and a good charger along with 2x 16850 batteries... icon_idea.gif
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Me too also looking for super thrower using 1 or 2 x 16850 batteries.. rclxms.gif My lists are
1) Tiablo A10-G
2) Dereelight DBS v3
3) EagleTac M2XC4

Best of all is that, they are all available here... Fenix brand got thrower or not??

I'm also buying a few cheap ones from DX.
Some of the 'police/Cree/FBI' are good throwers too.


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QUOTE(jwyj @ Aug 19 2009, 01:44 PM)
Me too also looking for super thrower using 1 or 2 x 16850 batteries..  rclxms.gif  My lists are
1) Tiablo A10-G
2) Dereelight DBS v3
3) EagleTac M2XC4

Best of all is that, they are all available here... Fenix brand got thrower or not??

I'm also buying a few cheap ones from DX.
Some of the 'police/Cree/FBI' are good throwers too.
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i think u mean 18650 laugh.gif

havent heard of 16850 yet blush.gif

also the olight M30 also a good light
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=871609&hl=

or jetbeam MX1
you can PM nexro if u want 1
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doh.gif my bad... it's 18650
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I only go for CR123 and 18650 lights. Nothing else!


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Wow V2 already. I'm so outdated. hahaha. Nightstalker, u shud link to V1 in the first post.
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Wow V2 already. I'm so outdated. hahaha. Nightstalker, u shud link to V1 in the first post.
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I only go for CR123 and 18650 lights. Nothing else!
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What a good idea. Maybe that's what I will try to do also, as I slowly remove those that take in AA and AAA batteries.
CR123 and 18650 batteries have more "WOW" factors.

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QUOTE(jwyj @ Aug 19 2009, 11:27 AM)

Added on August 19, 2009, 11:35 am
But doesn't rechargable batteries last longer?

I got the cheapest that I can find in Amazon,

1) G2 original - USD 34.98
2) 6P LED - USD69.99
3) TerraLux 220LED - USD33.94
4) G2Z original - USD64.99
5) E2E original - USD69.00

Maybe plus 2 or 3 more, but I will limit the price of each to <USD70.

Streamlights seems to be popular too, but too many choices. I only want to get those hard-to-find in Malaysia flashlights.

Others I can buy in this forums.
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QUOTE(jwyj @ Aug 19 2009, 06:40 PM)
What a good idea. Maybe that's what I will try to do also, as I slowly remove those that take in AA and AAA batteries.
CR123 and 18650 batteries have more "WOW" factors.
True this.
The AA batts are for non-collectors where the batts are real easy to find.
Because for ppl like us, we'll always have spare batts etc so the 'usefullness' of AA batts isn't there anymore.
I was thinking of getting an AA light but have decided against it.
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Hey, i'm using AA and have no complaints tongue.gif laugh.gif

though i'd love a 18650 powered light. sad.gif
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Wow V2 already. I'm so outdated. hahaha. Nightstalker, u shud link to V1 in the first post.
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AA Flashlight does have its own "WOW" factor. Look at Fenix TK40. The 8 x AA alone is already a "WOW" factor... sweat.gif rclxub.gif cool2.gif
Others like Nitecore EZAA (1 x AA), LiteFlux LF2XT (1 x AAA) and many others are no less "WOW" than their CR123 or 18650 cousins, the feat of engineering that goes into these AA/AAA flashlights are no less than any other "bigger" lights. brows.gif
There is one "collector" flashlight that you have to take a look at from GadgetWorld2U: FBI Stainless Steel CREE LED Flashlight/Torch. The machining and optics are of very impressive quality, what's more, it's stainless steel and uses 3 x AAA! Also, it reminds you of one exquisite model from Surefire... hmm.gif whistling.gif

EDIT: also take a look at these impressive AA battery adapters: Odd Mods Battery Adapters, the 21AA version is simply... rclxub.gif

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the FBI stainless steel cree led reminds me more of a cheapo LED light. the 3xAA config itself is cheap doh.gif
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FBIs looks terrible ! Police is about as boarder line as it can get for me. sweat.gif
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QUOTE(Nightstalker1993 @ Aug 19 2009, 10:55 PM)
the FBI stainless steel cree led reminds me more of a cheapo LED light. the 3xAA config itself is cheap doh.gif
QUOTE(Chieftat @ Aug 19 2009, 11:28 PM)
FBIs looks terrible ! Police is about as boarder line as it can get for me. sweat.gif
huh? really? haha... admittedly, the casing for its 3xAAA does need more work, other than that, the thing is really one solid rod. if you don't like the 3xAAA, you can replace it with 1x14500 (with some custom spacer). when i first handling it, i can hardly finds the separating line between the head and the body (or maybe it's time to get a new pair of spec. doh.gif ), the closing gap is very fine and it produces a beam that look like E2DL (but of course not as bright!) with its optics... shocking.gif the photo on their LYN sales thread do no just to the light.

EDIT: come to think of it, may be it can take 17500 or 18500 battery size too... not sure, don't have those in the shop to try on... hope it doesn't go *poof* on a freshly charged cell. we tried it on polkiuj's AW 14500 which reads at 3.6-3.7V, can't remember the exact voltage reading... tongue.gif

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4sevens quark AA rocks cool2.gif
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Actually the FBI SS is of pretty good quality. The treads and matching are machine to quite a precise tolerances. Better than some "branded" lights! But the treads of the one we played with wasn't anything close to great. The optics do produce weird artifacts and colors though. But it looks nice and solid, kind of like a room decor. But I think it's not water resistant. Haha. =( 18500 should power it very nicely. No poof guaranteed but how long the LED lasts is another question... ] whistling.gif



QUOTE(damonlbs @ Aug 20 2009, 08:25 AM)
4sevens quark AA rocks  cool2.gif
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+1 rookiedaddy

AA batt lights also possess the wow factor, jus depends which one.

using the humble entry level ET p100a2 for close to 2mths already, & flashing it all over the place inside & outside im always surprised by the throw & brightness; cool tint aside which makes for a sucky outdoorsy experience (washes out colours).

heck, the security guard patrolling the neighbourhood came up to me one morning & asked me what light i was using (waa, yr flashlight very bright ah..where you buy from?) haha. i was contemplating telling him to get on LY & go look up the bright side v1, until i realised i could jus tell him to contact bro philightsophy...& i dont have his contact no laugh.gif

regarding surefires, i'm beginning to think they're highly overrated. that & the 'use primary cr123 batts ONLY so we can make more money selling the batteries muahaha' argument. sure they tough, reliable etc2 but when so many cpf-ers modding, lego-ing, drop-in ing them, shouldn't they be perfect out of the box? and then these same ppl complain when the lights fail, hmm.

i was getting the impression that some cpf-ers being americans get very defensive about surefire reputation, & attack ruthlessly non-us made (however it is defined) brands. i hope my comments wont ignite such a ruckus here, being we malaysians are more sopan than americanos laugh.gif

still, i love my 6p ori incan, & use it as an emergency backup. find it a tad heavy for edc tho, & plan to get a g2 for lighter weight.
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QUOTE(ray2ray @ Aug 19 2009, 07:09 PM)
+1 rookiedaddy

AA batt lights also possess the wow factor, jus depends which one.

using the humble entry level ET p100a2 for close to 2mths already, & flashing it all over the place inside & outside im always surprised by the throw & brightness; cool tint aside which makes for a sucky outdoorsy experience (washes out colours).

heck, the security guard patrolling the neighbourhood came up to me one morning & asked me what light i was using (waa, yr flashlight very bright ah..where you buy from?) haha. i was contemplating telling him to get on LY & go look up the bright side v1, until i realised i could jus tell him to contact bro philightsophy...& i dont have his contact no  laugh.gif

regarding surefires, i'm beginning to think they're highly overrated. that & the 'use primary cr123 batts ONLY so we can make more money selling the batteries muahaha' argument. sure they tough, reliable etc2 but when so many cpf-ers modding, lego-ing, drop-in ing them, shouldn't they be perfect out of the box? and then these same ppl complain when the lights fail, hmm.

i was getting the impression that some cpf-ers being americans get very defensive about surefire reputation, & attack ruthlessly non-us made (however it is defined) brands. i hope my comments wont ignite such a ruckus here, being we malaysians are more sopan than americanos  laugh.gif

still, i love my 6p ori incan, & use it as an emergency backup. find it a tad heavy for edc tho, & plan to get a g2 for lighter weight.
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Haha Surefires are of a different level. Personally for me it hurts to buy Surefires, but I do get the satisfaction of holding one!! rclxms.gif

Eventhough the price is twice or triple compared to other brands and furthermore the output is less than half comparatively... But surprisingly it makes me contented! haha

I have yet to get a chinese made light myself...

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+1. You have to hold a SF to know their build quality. If you are able to, get yourself an M6 and you'll know what I mean. As for China-made lights, I've bought a few previously. I sold most of them and have only the Fenix E01 at the moment.
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QUOTE(alantch @ Aug 19 2009, 08:07 PM)
+1. You have to hold a SF to know their build quality. If you are able to, get yourself an M6 and you'll know what I mean. As for China-made lights, I've bought a few previously. I sold most of them and have only the Fenix E01 at the moment.
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Yea man.. If only I could afford and MAINTAIN an M6! Buying it is one thing, to maintain a high drain light like that.. Woo.. Craziness
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There are MANY rechargeable options for the M6 now, and that's what I'm using. There's the 3x17670 battery holder and the 3x18650 body from FM, LEDZep's LED heads etc etc. The M6 is now one very versatile lights with many options to choose from.
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Hi all!

Newbie on this forum, so please be gentle smile.gif

I own few Surefires and could testify the feel of quality. And I do own Chinese lights as well.

Part of the high price of Surefire I think is due to its no-question-asked warranty. It's convenience if you're in USA though but not sure if you're in Malaysia because I heard you need to phone them if anything goes wrong.
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QUOTE(alantch @ Aug 19 2009, 10:13 PM)
There are MANY rechargeable options for the M6 now, and that's what I'm using. There's the 3x17670 battery holder and the 3x18650 body from FM, LEDZep's LED heads etc etc. The M6 is now one very versatile lights with many options to choose from.
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True true..

But I really like the stock M6.. I prefer originals compared to mod for Surefires... reason being because i buy Surefires for their quality and not their lego ability.

Haha pretty different from other ppl... I don mind using the stock incan bulb with a rechargeable option..


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Hi all!

Newbie on this forum, so please be gentle smile.gif

I own few Surefires and could testify the feel of quality.  And I do own Chinese lights as well.

Part of the high price of Surefire I think is due to its no-question-asked warranty.  It's convenience if you're in USA though but not sure if you're in Malaysia because I heard you need to phone them if anything goes wrong.
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Hi,

In Malaysia the warranty for Surefires is also top notch.

Whn i had some sort of oil/chemical on my P60 refelctor... I just called Tropical Equipment and the owner herself came down and changed the bulb without any questions asked!!

That is what i call superb!

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Part of the Surefire fun is their lego-bility. But I salute your purist treatment for your SF lights. Running an M6 on primaries is expensive. One long running option is to run the MN15 bulb for 2 hours on a set of primaries known as the X-LOLA setup.

I used to be able to claim warranties direct from the US, but recently they started using Tropical Equipment. So I had to send the part to TE and enclose a RM10 postal order for the shipping back to me. All in all, still very good for the 'no-questions-asked' warranty claims.
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I used to be able to claim warranties direct from the US, but recently they started using Tropical Equipment. So I had to send the part to TE and enclose a RM10 postal order for the shipping back to me. All in all, still very good for the 'no-questions-asked' warranty claims.
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That's not too bad then. Less hassle as well.

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That's not too bad then.  Less hassle as well.
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HAha for me it's free.. I know the local dealer who deals with tropical equipment. So i would just give it to him and voila! Everything's settled! tongue.gif

I really love the origonal SF... Though it is more expensive.. But after modding it into a non-surefire light, I just feel that the 'SF quality' isnt there anymore.. haha
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Wah, a week+ didnt login and we're at V2 liao..

Anyway, on AA flashlights being non-collector's item, i disagree...
I only stick to AA flashlights, whether it's AAx1 or AAx8, it doesnt matter..

You see, i travel a lot...come Oct i will be off to NZ for a couple of months.. Most of the time i would be somewhere between a mountainside and the coast, so unless i am able to get myself a reasonable hostel/motel, i wont be able to charge any CR123 bateries..and i doubt i could jst go into a mini market and buy a couple of CR123s.. Though on the other hand, AA/AAA will definitely be sold anywhere from the artic store to the desert mini mart...

Or maybe i am one collector that collect flashlights with combination of ease of use... No doubt CR123 flashlight have higher output and are smaller in size...but for my situation, i need a flashlight with 100% possibility of getting it's primary anywhere when my rechargeables ran out of juice.. Your flashlight is only as good as the batteries that powered them..without either one, it's jst a bulkier case of holding dead cells... wink.gif


Added : And one more thing, i do love CR123 flashlights when i am back home in Malaysia... :>

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QUOTE(ArmorFiend @ Aug 20 2009, 02:29 PM)
Wah, a week+ didnt login and we're at V2 liao..

Anyway, on AA flashlights being non-collector's item, i disagree...
True collector obviously will have all varieties in his collection, AA, CR3, 18650, etc.

But I must admit easily accessible varieties (AA/AAA) are more practical and definitely more convenient.
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wow, discussion on other non-sf topics get a couple responses in a day or more. start one on sf & we get dozens of posts in hours! i shud 'batu api' more sf topics eh? haha, jus kidding.

fwiw, i do not doubt sf build quality. i own a 6p & love it to bits. i doubt i'll get an m6 bcos its too expensive (bloke gear says rm1500+) & can probably get a similar throw performance from a dbs, tiablo or ET. once again, this is my opinion only...ymmv

+ 1 armorFiend

the argument for/against AA's vs CR123 has been discussed on cpf, go look it up. it basically boils down to personal preference imho. as a newbie im currently on AA's its more easily accessible, even tho im planning to try out rechargeables for the always topped-up cells option (turbo high on all the time no issues haha).

btw, i have an E01 (sorry walter, i broke my promise lol, couldn't resist) as well & i love it . purple beam aside, its small, light, long-running & good enough for most situations, as a soldier attests on the cpf thread.

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QUOTE(z-b-i @ Aug 19 2009, 11:32 PM)
True collector obviously will have all varieties in his collection, AA, CR3, 18650, etc.

But I must admit easily accessible varieties (AA/AAA) are more practical and definitely more convenient.
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Haha currently all my lights are all running on CR123's... Only about a few days ago I bought a Mini Mag mod. My very first 2AA... I was quite impressed and I don feel any pain in just keeping the light on!
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anyone know where i can find this

1 WATT AA MAGLITE LED BULB and IQ SWITCH by NITE IZE

mini maglite upgrade kit in MY? anybody selling besides ebay.. or any other upgrade available for Mini Mag AA?

advice are welcomed - Thanks smile.gif
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QUOTE(Zen|th @ Aug 20 2009, 04:04 PM)
Haha currently all my lights are all running on CR123's... Only about a few days ago I bought a Mini Mag mod. My very first 2AA... I was quite impressed and I don feel any pain in just keeping the light on!
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anyone know where i can find this
 
1 WATT AA MAGLITE LED BULB and IQ SWITCH by NITE IZE

mini maglite upgrade kit in MY? anybody selling besides ebay.. or any other upgrade available for Mini Mag AA?

advice are welcomed - Thanks smile.gif
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Yes, I got a Mini Maglite like 6 years ago, and all the while lying in the storeroom.
Thinking to upgrade it to a more powerful LED.
It would be great if you can share where you bought the modkit/upgrade kit.
Thanks.
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Yes, I got a Mini Maglite like 6 years ago, and all the while lying in the storeroom.
Thinking to upgrade it to a more powerful LED.
It would be great if you can share where you bought the modkit/upgrade kit.
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http://cgi.ebay.com.my/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi...BUCI%26otn%3D12

only this i menage to find - still not in MY
propably need to purchase through somebody who bulk services from ebay in LYN sweat.gif

this is the company who produce it http://www.niteize.com/productdetail.php?c...&product_id=146
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QUOTE(NtahX @ Aug 20 2009, 04:58 PM)
http://cgi.ebay.com.my/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi...BUCI%26otn%3D12

only this i menage to find - still not in MY
propably need to purchase through somebody who bulk services from ebay in LYN  sweat.gif

this is the company who produce it http://www.niteize.com/productdetail.php?c...&product_id=146
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Yup took a look for the link you give, it looks like the tailcap need to be changed as well.
Maybe sir Zen|th got a better mod?
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Titanium Ra Clicky arrived today. It's gorgeous!
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Please compare it to your Lummis, and post some pictures...
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I don't have any Lummis.


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plz post some with other light
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QUOTE(NtahX @ Aug 20 2009, 04:58 PM)
http://cgi.ebay.com.my/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi...BUCI%26otn%3D12

only this i menage to find - still not in MY
propably need to purchase through somebody who bulk services from ebay in LYN   sweat.gif

this is the company who produce it http://www.niteize.com/productdetail.php?c...&product_id=146
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If anyone wants to bulk, add 2 sets for me. I got 2 new 2AA maglites doing nothing here. smile.gif

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i want one too, my maglite is already my shelf queen...
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minimag eh... smile.gif
got a few during the older days, got the sandwich for it as well and a high powered incan using a bi-pin 9V bulb... but now, they just sit around in a drawer.

Look here for some more "updated" stuff for your minimags:
http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/showthread.php?t=232784
http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/showthread.php?t=83903

sandwiches are old and some are still using luxeon 3s, but it's still brighter and runs longer than the regular bulb.

nite ize are good too but imo, it would be better paying for a new light and retire your minimag tongue.gif
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Titanium Ra Clicky arrived today. It's gorgeous!
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you bought it !! notworthy.gif how does it feel compared to the regular Ra ?

pictures !
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QUOTE(refnulf @ Aug 20 2009, 06:21 PM)
Titanium Ra Clicky arrived today. It's gorgeous!
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Bro, does the Titanium Ra Clicky really feel much lighter compare to your older Ra? drool.gif

QUOTE(jwyj @ Aug 20 2009, 07:54 PM)
If anyone wants to bulk, add 2 sets for me. I got 2 new 2AA maglites doing nothing here.  smile.gif
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It's definitely heavier than the regular Ra Clickies. Really nice feeling when you hold it. Solid as ever. Knurling is fantastic. It's brighter than the 170Cn, closer to the 200Cn so I'm not bothered.

Really glad I took the chance and got it. I'll take some pictures later.


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QUOTE(refnulf @ Aug 20 2009, 11:56 PM)
It's definitely heavier than the regular Ra Clickies. Really nice feeling when you hold it. Solid as ever. Knurling is fantastic. It's brighter than the 170Cn, closer to the 200Cn so I'm not bothered.

Really glad I took the chance and got it. I'll take some pictures later.
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Eiks, this is rather strange, because Titanium is consider the lighter metal as they are used to built the Airplan because of the lighter characteristic.
Even my titanium watch are much much more lighter the my stainless steel watch.
Maybe the technology that Ra Clicky used to built the flashlight is very much different than the other? wink.gif
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Could be also because of the light engine, the sapphire lens and all that. It's much more solid than any other light I have. Plus, do remember it has to be just as tough, or tougher than the other Ra Lights.






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Ti weighs about the same, if not lighter, than alu. Reason why they use it in aircraft is coz though its light, its pretty darn strong!
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QUOTE(refnulf @ Aug 21 2009, 01:38 AM)
Could be also because of the light engine, the sapphire lens and all that. It's much more solid than any other light I have. Plus, do remember it has to be just as tough, or tougher than the other Ra Lights.
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Put the weight factor aside, I am sure this Ti Ra Clicky will impress you and sure it will impress the other.
Talk about impress, hey bro, when can we come out to have a TT session and then you may show me your new toy? brows.gif
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Hey Justin78,

Im no sir... Haha. Actually I didnt mod the mag myself. Its from user surefire v LED.

If im not mistaken it is the Edison KLC8 or Michael Jordan. But I heard it was pretty easy. Just swap it in and will give ya 100 lumens for about 4 hrs...

Not as bright as eagletacs or fenixes but hey, it's american made! haha
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QUOTE(ray2ray @ Aug 20 2009, 02:56 PM)
wow, discussion on other non-sf topics get a couple responses in a day or more. start one on sf & we get dozens of posts in hours! i shud 'batu api' more sf topics eh? haha, jus kidding.

fwiw, i do not doubt sf build quality. i own a 6p & love it to bits. i doubt i'll get an m6 bcos its too expensive (bloke gear says rm1500+) & can probably get a similar throw performance from a dbs, tiablo or ET. once again, this is my opinion only...ymmv

+ 1 armorFiend

the argument for/against AA's vs CR123 has been discussed on cpf, go look it up. it basically boils down to personal preference imho. as a newbie im currently on AA's its more easily accessible, even tho im planning to try out rechargeables for the always topped-up cells option (turbo high on all the time no issues haha).

btw, i have an E01 (sorry walter, i broke my promise lol, couldn't resist) as well & i love it . purple beam aside, its small, light, long-running & good enough for most situations, as a soldier attests on the cpf thread.
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QUOTE(refnulf @ Aug 20 2009, 06:21 PM)
Titanium Ra Clicky arrived today. It's gorgeous!
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Oh gosh! I gotta see it!!!!!!!!!!!


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Enjoy it!

Please compare it to your Lummis, and post some pictures...
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QUOTE(refnulf @ Aug 20 2009, 06:41 PM)
I don't have any Lummis.
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QUOTE(justin78 @ Aug 21 2009, 12:02 AM)
Eiks, this is rather strange, because Titanium is consider the lighter metal as they are used to built the Airplan because of the lighter characteristic.
Even my titanium watch are much much more lighter the my stainless steel watch.
Maybe the technology that Ra Clicky used to built the flashlight is very much different than the other?  wink.gif
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QUOTE(Nightstalker1993 @ Aug 21 2009, 02:03 AM)
Ti weighs about the same, if not lighter, than alu. Reason why they use it in aircraft is coz though its light, its pretty darn strong!
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Here is where I correct you guys!! Mwahaha!!

Pure titanium is over 60% more dense than pure aluminum. That means that for the same amount of material, Ti is over 60% heavier!! So please clear the misconception that Ti is lighter. But it is around twice as strong.

The Ti and Alu used in flashlights are not pure. They are an alloy. Commonly called "aircraft grade" Usually the Alu used is either 6061 (alloyed with mainly silicon and magnesium, easier to machine) or 7075 (alloyed with mainly zinc, stronger). Ti would usually be 3Al-2.5V (alloyed mainly with 3%alu, 2.5% vanadium) or 6Al-4V (alloyed with mainly 3%alu, 2.5% vanadium).

Ti alloy is usually as strong as SS but half the weight. It is also usually twice as strong as Alu alloys but double the weight.
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haha... polkiuj, thanks... that does "clear" things up a bit... rclxub.gif now where is my panadol... sweat.gif

btw, any new development on 4Sevens' MC-E?

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Put the weight factor aside, I am sure this Ti Ra Clicky will impress you and sure it will impress the other.
Talk about impress, hey bro, when can we come out to have a TT session and then you may show me your new toy?  brows.gif
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Sure Justin, I'll call you!


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QUOTE(refnulf @ Aug 21 2009, 01:38 AM)
Could be also because of the light engine, the sapphire lens and all that. It's much more solid than any other light I have. Plus, do remember it has to be just as tough, or tougher than the other Ra Lights.
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Man, that's one sexy light smile.gif
I am assuming that is will be tougher than the standard lights (as if they need more toughness tongue.gif ).
I will be looking forward to your light, but not that soon because my left forefoot is sprained. I am supposed to be in PJ now but I am resting at home instead whistling.gif
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QUOTE(Philightsophy @ Aug 21 2009, 12:46 PM)
Man, that's one sexy light  smile.gif
I am assuming that is will be tougher than the standard lights (as if they need more toughness  tongue.gif ).
I will be looking forward to your light, but not that soon because my left forefoot is sprained. I am supposed to be in PJ now but I am resting at home instead  whistling.gif
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Yeah, we could have met up or something if you came down (gathering!) but we'll wait for you to fully recover.

It is a nice light. Best thing is that it's upgradable.


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anyone know where i can find this
 
1 WATT AA MAGLITE LED BULB and IQ SWITCH by NITE IZE

mini maglite upgrade kit in MY? anybody selling besides ebay.. or any other upgrade available for Mini Mag AA?

advice are welcomed - Thanks smile.gif
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I dunno how much is the maglite LED bulb, but i think it's not worth investing in coz i have the 3xAAA LED Mini Mag and seriously, its kinda disappointing.... i would suggest u to get other brand of LED light...

And btw, i have a LED by Nite Ize for 2xAA mini mag..and it's jst as bright as Energizer's keychain LED...nothing to should about..and considering i purchase them from Ebay US, it's kinda pricey and not worth while... In fact, i bought 2 pairs..with one still in it's sealed blister. If you're interested, i could sell them to you, hehee...though seriously, i dont recommend them.. It s not bright enough to be useful...
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wah no new post for almost 24hours. Everybody is puasa and keeping quiet, sleeping!!!

Where can we get holder for 18650 and RCR123 battery for safe storage and transporation. If I balik kampung, normally I carry all my rechargeable batterries with me, and keep them inside my backpack. I am not sure it is safe doing that with all those close to a dozen 18650 Lithium-ion and another half dozen RCR123. I do believe Renulf with 1 dozen of 18650 for the Kong alone might have a better solution for storage.

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not sure about 18650 as I carry them either in lights or plastic zipper bag, but for CR123A/RCR123 there are a couple of safe options:
- Surefire SC1
- Get the Eagletac battery magazine from our local EagleTac man... Philightsophy
- Get the Lock&Lock storage box
- store in Dequadin tube (this tips learn from one cpfer... from SG I think... )

For AAs, you can get the Uniross 4-cells battery case from Best Denki (I got mine from 1U), or, use the protective case that comes with Eneloop.

EDIT: found the thread from cpf... How do you carry spare batteries
I think Pelican case with pre-cut foam for the battery is best... but price is high... (ya... ya... i know the Surefire SC1 is more expensive, i must be high on Lithium battery poison when buying it... doh.gif )

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QUOTE(zainalklj @ Aug 22 2009, 10:26 PM)
wah no new post for almost 24hours. Everybody is puasa and keeping quiet, sleeping!!!

Where can we get holder for 18650 and RCR123 battery for safe storage and transporation. If I balik kampung, normally I carry all my rechargeable batterries with me, and keep them inside my backpack. I am not sure it is safe doing that with all those close to a dozen 18650 Lithium-ion and another half dozen RCR123. I do believe Renulf with 1 dozen of 18650 for the Kong alone might have a better solution for storage.
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Yoh bro, just go to the supermarket store to buy yourself a tupperware, brands such as the locknlock produce quality plastic tupperware, I personally put my batteries there.
Some more, you can choose the size that you like. icon_rolleyes.gif

You may put some sponge into the tupperware to prevent those batteries rolling when traveling.

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QUOTE(zainalklj @ Aug 22 2009, 10:26 PM)
wah no new post for almost 24hours. Everybody is puasa and keeping quiet, sleeping!!!

Where can we get holder for 18650 and RCR123 battery for safe storage and transporation. If I balik kampung, normally I carry all my rechargeable batterries with me, and keep them inside my backpack. I am not sure it is safe doing that with all those close to a dozen 18650 Lithium-ion and another half dozen RCR123. I do believe Renulf with 1 dozen of 18650 for the Kong alone might have a better solution for storage.
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Right now I've got 27 x 18650 batteries. If I travel with them, I keep 12 of the batteries in the Kong. The other 3 in the Maglite and 4 in the Ellie 2. I have another 8 which I install into 2 extra battery holder for the Ellie 2 (which keeps them apart). Other alternatives are plastic cases which fit the 18650. You can ask Justin to confirm which ones he uses. He has hundreds of those batteries all kept for sale, etc.

If I'm at home, I just stand the batteries up in the cupboard next to the light. I don't leave them in, I'm afraid they might blow up or something.

EDIT: Too late, Justin already answered tongue.gif Haha.

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QUOTE(zainalklj @ Aug 22 2009, 11:26 PM)
wah no new post for almost 24hours. Everybody is puasa and keeping quiet, sleeping!!!

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thinking wat flashlight to buy next... hmm.gif
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I know I've said this before, but if I plan to buy anymore lights. Please stop me!


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hi all sifu here,

i am new to led torch, if my budget is below RM200, and i want a torch which can give the most throw n brightness, which one will u all suggest?

thanks!
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QUOTE(andrewlim8 @ Aug 23 2009, 12:01 AM)
if my budget is below RM200, and i want a torch which can give the most throw n brightness
EagleTac T100C2 MKII. Get it from Philightsophy here in LYN. page 1 of this thread has his information you need.

QUOTE(refnulf @ Aug 22 2009, 11:47 PM)
I know I've said this before, but if I plan to buy anymore lights. Please stop me!
Yep... you should stop buying anymore LED lights, and start planning for upgrades:
- bug Wayne for SST-90 or CSM-360 upgrade
- Ti Ra could really use more XP-G power!
Now... about that HID light... ... ... sweat.gif

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QUOTE(RookieDaddy @ Aug 23 2009, 02:49 AM)
EagleTac T100C2 MKII. Get it from Philightsophy here in LYN. page 1 of this thread has his information you need.
Yep... you should stop buying anymore LED lights, and start planning for upgrades:
- bug Wayne for SST-90 or CSM-360 upgrade
- Ti Ra could really use more XP-G power!
Now... about that HID light... ... ...  sweat.gif
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Nah man, that's enough. Nothing needs upgrades. The Ras' use the current emitter because its alot more efficient than any other emitter out there for what it wants.


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QUOTE(zainalklj @ Aug 22 2009, 10:26 PM)
wah no new post for almost 24hours. Everybody is puasa and keeping quiet, sleeping!!!

Where can we get holder for 18650 and RCR123 battery for safe storage and transporation. If I balik kampung, normally I carry all my rechargeable batterries with me, and keep them inside my backpack. I am not sure it is safe doing that with all those close to a dozen 18650 Lithium-ion and another half dozen RCR123. I do believe Renulf with 1 dozen of 18650 for the Kong alone might have a better solution for storage.
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you can use another light to carry the spare cell.
that way, not only you have spare batteries, you also have a backup light smile.gif

you can also get the pelican 1010 or larger case with pick n pluck foam.
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[quote=RookieDaddy,Aug 23 2009, 02:49 AM]
EagleTac T100C2 MKII. Get it from Philightsophy here in LYN. page 1 of this thread has his information you need.


thanks for your info !
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couple of questions for frequent traveller bros:

are there restrictions about bringing in flashlights onboard aircraft, especially one heading to singapore?

can i purchase batteries & carry them as hand luggage on a flight leaving singapore?
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Hey guys, sorta new here and surprised to see a whole community of malaysian flashaholics! blink.gif

I've been in around CPF often and strinq led me here. If I didn't pm'ed and asked, wouldn't have known this thread existed unsure.gif Didn't thought of looking in this category too sad.gif

anyway, cheers laugh.gif


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QUOTE(ray2ray @ Aug 24 2009, 02:32 PM)
are there restrictions about bringing in flashlights onboard aircraft, especially one heading to singapore?
can i purchase batteries & carry them as hand luggage on a flight leaving singapore?
try this - Transport of Lithium Battery, good read if you are transporting Lithium batteries on board. There are also more info in cpf batteries section.
as long as your flashlight is not "aggresive" looking, it should be ok. so far i have no problem bringing my edc items in hand-luggage, and that includes a SAK.
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QUOTE(RookieDaddy @ Aug 24 2009, 04:41 PM)
try this - Transport of Lithium Battery, good read if you are transporting Lithium batteries on board. There are also more info in cpf batteries section.
as long as your flashlight is not "aggresive" looking, it should be ok. so far i have no problem bringing my edc items in hand-luggage, and that includes a SAK.
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Hey guys, I'm considering to buy 8 eneloops for my TK40. Found a seller in LYN but I like to hear which trustable seller you guys recommend? I'm sure there are eneloop users here?

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Heys, I'll settle for the Powerex Imedion, since I have a Maha charger

cheers.

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new Surefire G4!!! shocking.gif

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nah... just kidding... it's my old G2 with AN14 extender on 7.4V 15W bulb running 2 x 17670 to get extended runtime... brows.gif
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this extender got a vent hole, hmm.gif so waterproofing is out, but should be perfect for rechargeables... whistling.gif

EDIT: wt*beep* vmad.gif , i lost momentary function with this setup, the twisting on/off is gonna tear the battery. sigh! now must find a Surefire/Solarforce forward clicky. doh.gif

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RD, is that green reflective tape you have there near the head of the G2/G3? Where did you get them and are there other colours available?
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yeap. it's the reflective tape. got it from Ace Hardware auto section, other colours available are Orange and Yellow. Green is the most reflective among them. biggrin.gif

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Thanks for the info. Will look for it the next time I in KL.
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Hi everybody,

new here (even been registered quite sometime) and interested with "lighted things". Hope to learn more from all the sifus here. tq

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welcome!
and say bye bye to ur savings. biggrin.gif
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Hello everybody. Another Newbie signing in. Glad to know there's a lot of flashaholic here.
BTW Justin, i have traded with you sometime ago through Lelong. Just wondering do you sell
AW 17670?
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icaruz76, welcome to the bright side. Looks like we're both from the same parts. Are you from Land below the wind or Land of the Hornbills?
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icaruz76, welcome to the bright side. Looks like we're both from the same parts. Are you from Land below the wind or Land of the Hornbills?
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From Kuching bro..what about you?
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Welcome striderman and icaruz76.. me new too biggrin.gif

I've been backtracking V1 for about 30+ pages .. ive missed the gathering! I'll be interested if you guys have another. brows.gif
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Yup..wonder how i did not even know the existence of this sub-forum..now have to read from V1 just to update myself with the community here..
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Hey guys, thought I'll just post my small collection of flashlights biggrin.gif

From left to right: A utility flashlight?, Fenix TK40, Fenix TA21, Fenix LD10, Ace 1LED AAA (similar to Dorcy's AAA)
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I have a few more others like Energizer 2in1, 2in1 emergency light with magnet base, LED pushlights. I also had a Fenix LD01 but I gave it away smile.gif

I did a current draw measurement on Fenix TA21 and LD10 in CPF, and with the help of HKJ to clarify and explain some stuff. I am still learning though laugh.gif

I have not done a measurement on the TK40 yet, but I've based from HKJ's reading from CPF:
Off:0.38mA, min:27mA, med:212mA, high:700mA and max:2.5A

I guess the reason why I'm interested in the current draw so I'll know briefly how much junction heat it actually produces based on the LED's manufacturer like cree, and how well flashlight manufacturers designed their heat sink to have the light function in certain conditions. Although the measurements are not exactly what the LED is consuming, I explained in my thread the actual way to get a correct measurement is from between the LED and the electronics inside the bezel. So far, I've only seen Quark gave readings of current draw for their flashlights which I feel it's important.

This utility flashlight below was an early experiment I mod from an incan to a 3LED drop-in from ACE:

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QUOTE(RookieDaddy @ Aug 24 2009, 11:00 PM)
this extender got a vent hole,  hmm.gif so waterproofing is out, but should be perfect for rechargeables...  whistling.gif

EDIT: wt*beep*  vmad.gif , i lost momentary function with this setup, the twisting on/off is gonna tear the battery. sigh! now must find a Surefire/Solarforce forward clicky.  doh.gif
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Hey, im just wondering, it seems that it's not meant to run on 2x 17670 then? since now abit cacat di hmm.gif

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QUOTE(pseudoblue @ Aug 26 2009, 12:39 AM)
it seems that it's not meant to run on 2x 17670 then?
Haha it was meant for Surefire's own rechargeable. But that's part of the fun of being a flashaholic. brows.gif
Hey, I could learn a lot from you about the current draw in flashlights. (I'm an electronic n00b ) sweat.gif
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From Kuching bro..what about you?
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I'm in Miri but origin is Kuching. I see that you've bought quite a bit of stuff in CPF ... do show us your collection and tell us how the drop-ins perform when you get them.
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Hello everybody. Another Newbie signing in. Glad to know there's a lot of flashaholic here.
BTW Justin, i have traded with you sometime ago through Lelong. Just wondering do you sell
AW 17670?
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Wah! So many posts! Sorry guys! =(

QUOTE(RookieDaddy @ Aug 21 2009, 10:12 AM)
haha... polkiuj, thanks... that does "clear" things up a bit...  rclxub.gif  now where is my panadol... sweat.gif

btw, any new development on 4Sevens' MC-E?
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QUOTE(alantch @ Aug 26 2009, 09:03 AM)
I'm in Miri but origin is Kuching. I see that you've bought quite a bit of stuff in CPF ... do show us your collection and tell us how the drop-ins perform when you get them.
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Hey! I'm from Kuching too!! But raised in Subang Jaya. Hehe.

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Haha it was meant for Surefire's own rechargeable. But that's part of the fun of being a flashaholic. brows.gif
Hey, I could learn a lot from you about the current draw in flashlights. (I'm an electronic n00b )  sweat.gif
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heys me learning too, you can check out this website from a CPF member, scroll down for the english part on how to measure flashlights..
http://www.lygte-info.dk/

What other surefire lights u have? got a link or something brows.gif
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thanks for the link... smile.gif
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What other surefire lights u have? got a link or something brows.gif
that's it... just G2 and G3... no moola to get those surefire metal piece and prefer to get my lights from the kind souls here in LYN (GW2U, Philightsophy, polkiuj, etc.) and b&m stores... sweat.gif was at one point tempted to get E2DL, but then decided to get T20C2 and TA21 instead... thumbup.gif

my neutral whites (posted in cpf):
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sweat.gif was at one point tempted to get E2DL, but then decided to get T20C2 and TA21 instead...  thumbup.gif
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I noticed there are more surefire fans here than i've expected, but the eagletac and fenix is just about as worth it and at lower price. I'd go for eagletac and fenix over surefire too, I'm not doubting surefire quality, mainly because of the price. But those 2 are still very good lights nod.gif I like their UI and designs more cool2.gif
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I agree with Pseudoblue...

The EagleTac P100A2 is rather cheap for a 225 lumen..and i like the solid built of it...and size, not too small and neither too large, exactly at comfy grip size... the momentary on/off is very useful as well... the only thing lacking is a strobe... a minor inconvi..
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there's quite a thread on the functions of strobes in real life.
Very limited use actually, and have u actually had to use that function yet?
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my neutral whites (posted in cpf):
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Hey, nice collection man!! drool.gif Eagletac has nice looking lights, and those Quarks wub.gif

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there's quite a thread on the functions of strobes in real life.
Very limited use actually, and have u actually had to use that function yet?
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Haven't come across.. but it's more like "See, my light can do this *StrobeStrobeStrobeStrobeStrobeStrobe*"

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reached yesterday, but today's only can pick it up... actually bought two and 1 M2XC4 (on the way...)
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there's quite a thread on the functions of strobes in real life.
Very limited use actually, and have u actually had to use that function yet?
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Used it twice so far...
Once was when i was waiting for my gf in a car at night.. There were like a dozen or so other cars and she couldnt pick out which one's mine...

2nd was when i went with some Rela/bomba/police members for a night ops rescue.. It was published in the paper some time back, 2 brothers of snr age was lost while trekking in Moon Gate, Penang. My strobe was used to notify some sergeant about our teams' whereabout among the sea of flashlight and people. The 2 brothers were lost on 5pm and rescued by 7am the next day.... I went back around 4am after a 3 hours search, so didnt really do anything much, kekee...except to test out my newly bought Fenix LD20.. smile.gif
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Ah nice story, you should post it in cpf.
But again, still not that many people use it and in both cases u could actually use the momentary on and flash it quickly many times and it'll just be as efficient (but leceh lah haha).
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P100A2 is the bomb! Haha!

It's not 225 lumen though. Where did you get that idea? Eagletac only rates it as 195 emitter lumens! Unless you're talking about the P10A2. P100 is way better (IMHO). rclxms.gif

And you don't need strobe with this guy. You can manually strobe with the switch. Works fine for calling people.

For self defence, a full blast > off > whack works best. (Tested on NS, Sorry NS. =D)
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heys, just so if any of you haven't come across yet. Got this link from CPF, it's superb!

http://superfonarik.ru/article_info.php?articles_id=11
Site has very good beamshot comparison for different flashlights, you can compare them, do read the intro

original post: Check out these beamshots throw and flood
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i am new to all these led flash.

anyone tried this ULTRAFIRE WF-501B? claimed that 245 lumens, is it true? how is this UltraFire as compare to other brand like Fenix, EagleTac?

the price is quite cheap costs less than 100 included battery 18650 n charger.
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QUOTE(andrewlim8 @ Aug 27 2009, 12:44 PM)
i am new to all these led flash.

anyone tried this ULTRAFIRE WF-501B?  claimed that 245 lumens, is it true? how is this UltraFire as compare to other brand like Fenix, EagleTac?

the price is quite cheap costs less than 100 included battery 18650 n charger.
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Hi, its usually a hit or miss with this brand..so far i have bought 2 units from DX. RL-118 and C3 SS..both arrived safely and comes pre-lubed. But feedbacks from CPF stated otherwise on this brand. i guess it depends on your luck..so far my two Ultrafire works fine..
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i've tested a couple of ultrafires and have one myself.
They are definately cheper for a reason. One is the reason stated above, u have a certain percentage (which is pretty high) of getting a faulty unit that u need time to fix.
And they are just not as robust or feel as solid as the other more expensive brands.
I think definately not aircraft grade aluminium and no waterproofness.
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Here's my modest collection
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3D P7, Legion II, Mg PLI, Fenix L2d, 2AA Mag, SF G2(R2 drop in), Fenix LD01 SS, Ultrafire RL-118 SS, Ultrafire C3 SS, Solarforce L2 SS, 3D P7

Apologize for bad pics..

one more coming next week ..bored 6P with nailbender SST-50 drop-in
and end of september hopefully my first Ti lights..Quark Tactical 123 n 123x2..

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3D P7, Legion II, Mg PLI, Fenix L2d, 2AA Mag, SF G2(R2 drop in), Fenix LD01 SS, Ultrafire RL-118 SS, Ultrafire C3 SS, Solarforce L2 SS, 3D P7
what's your opinion on the Legion II? is it tough? something that's "whack-able"? do you think the lens will withstand drop?

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yeah, ppl are curious about the legion II.
After the big hooha at cpf.
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what's your opinion on the Legion II? is it tough? something that's "whack-able"? do you think the lens will withstand drop?
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i dont use my lights to whack something..hee..hee. rclxub.gif also have not drop it yet. The build quality is actually very good. the UI control ring makes you wonder why bother with clicky anymore.. the beam is so bright with little artifacts compare to my other MCE/P7 lights. and the best part is you won't feel that much heat after more than 30 mins on high..

by the way if look closer at my pics.. you can see my beater light... battle scar black 3D p7 running on Accupower evolution LSD batts. this thing can last for hrs on high..
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QUOTE(icaruz76 @ Aug 27 2009, 02:53 PM)
Here's my modest collection
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3D P7, Legion II, Mg PLI, Fenix L2d, 2AA Mag, SF G2(R2 drop in), Fenix LD01 SS, Ultrafire RL-118 SS, Ultrafire C3 SS, Solarforce L2 SS, 3D P7

Apologize for bad pics..

one more coming next week ..bored 6P with nailbender SST-50 drop-in
and end of september hopefully my first Ti lights..Quark Tactical 123 n 123x2..
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Ooh ... looks like a growing family of lights. What do you use to drive the 2 3D P7s? Were they your own mods?
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Ooh ... looks like a growing family of lights. What do you use to drive the 2 3D P7s? Were they your own mods?
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Both direct drive...heatsink and p7 from britelumens..switch mod by myself..quite straightforward.
using teflon 22g wires..and 3xD Accupower Evolution LSD Nimh from amazon.
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QUOTE(andrewlim8 @ Aug 27 2009, 12:44 PM)
i am new to all these led flash.

anyone tried this ULTRAFIRE WF-501B?  claimed that 245 lumens, is it true? how is this UltraFire as compare to other brand like Fenix, EagleTac?

the price is quite cheap costs less than 100 included battery 18650 n charger.
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Hi, I dont have any ultrafire lights, I've read about them though, icaruz and strinq has a point about its quality... But then, you can go ahead and just buy it and give it a test, it runs on an earlier Cree P4 bin LED... post some pics! brows.gif Does the charger and batt comes with it, an Ultrafire charger and protected 18650?

Fenix and Eagletac quality is alot higher though. If you can afford a bigger budget, I recommend these brands. Also not forgetting Quark lights are becoming very popular. We have local dealers for these brands.

If you like along the line of 18650 batts, I can recommend the Fenix TK11 R2, Fenix TA21 which I have experienced.

Other members here can also suggest more since they have more experience with other light brands. I only have Fenix lights and they are great.

hrmm.. the Olight M20 seems to be good as well.. muaha
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QUOTE(andrewlim8 @ Aug 27 2009, 12:44 PM)
i am new to all these led flash.

anyone tried this ULTRAFIRE WF-501B?  claimed that 245 lumens, is it true? how is this UltraFire as compare to other brand like Fenix, EagleTac?

the price is quite cheap costs less than 100 included battery 18650 n charger.
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"claimed that 245 lumens, is it true?" It's probably true, to a point. It might mean that it makes 245 lumens, maximum (or minimum or average) at the emitter. Different manufacturers state brightness differently. The best spec is "minimum or average out the front lumens".

I've never tried this particular light so I dunno but most ultrafires is like a really cheap Fenix or Eagletac. It's made lousier and it can't take water. The plus points are it is easily modded, you can mod it to take water. But modding = cash icon_idea.gif

My personal suggestion: Get an Eagletac P100A2 or P100C2. The awesomest of cheap(ish) lights!!

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QUOTE(icaruz76 @ Aug 27 2009, 03:23 PM)
The build quality is actually very good. the UI control ring makes you wonder why bother with clicky anymore.. the beam is so bright with little artifacts compare to my other MCE/P7 lights. and the best part is you won't feel that much heat after more than 30 mins on high..
thanks smile.gif gosh... now you got me interested... drool.gif wonder how his SST-50/90 performs, is it gonna be >1000 lumens? read his thread yesterday and saw the prototype photo, still liking the current version tint... curious as to whether any neutral/warm tint exist for these SST-50/90.
can't seems to find his thread anymore, everytime I click the searched results, it returns with "No Thread specified. If you followed a valid link, please notify the administrator"... shakehead.gif
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strinq, i seldom go into CPF coz it loads prett slow.. dunno why but other forums are pretty fast... And yea, i could use the momentary on/off on the EagleTac P100A2, but strobe is more fun ma, kekee...

Polkiuj, ur right..it's 195 lumen instesd of 225.. and since then i have been EDC on P100A2.. Must be a bit blur after came back from watching Laughing Gor:Turning Point.. :>
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QUOTE(RookieDaddy @ Aug 27 2009, 03:57 PM)
thanks  smile.gif gosh... now you got me interested...  drool.gif wonder how his SST-50/90 performs, is it gonna be >1000 lumens? read his thread yesterday and saw the prototype photo, still liking the current version tint... curious as to whether any neutral/warm tint exist for these SST-50/90.
can't seems to find his thread anymore, everytime I click the searched results, it returns with "No Thread specified. If you followed a valid link, please notify the administrator"...  shakehead.gif
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just chat with Neo few hrs back..the sst-50 will be driven at 4-4.5A so basically a 1000+ lumens at the emmitter. the sst-90 will be driven at 7A and uses different head from the current Legion II. Price for the sst-50 will be US$248 + US$11 ems to Malaysia. For current user the price will be lower..
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QUOTE(icaruz76 @ Aug 27 2009, 03:23 PM)
i dont use my lights to whack something..hee..hee. rclxub.gif also have not drop it yet. The build quality is actually very good. the UI control ring makes you wonder why bother with clicky anymore.. the beam is so bright with little artifacts compare to my other MCE/P7 lights. and the best part is you won't feel that much heat after more than 30 mins on high..

by the way if look closer at my pics.. you can see my beater light... battle scar black 3D p7 running on Accupower evolution LSD batts. this thing can last for hrs on high..
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Can't see ur pic from here, have to go back and see again smile.gif Saw the review in CPF already, the Legion II is simply superb drool.gif

QUOTE(icaruz76 @ Aug 27 2009, 03:23 PM)
and the best part is you won't feel that much heat after more than 30 mins on high..

So he was telling the truth in the specs: Ultimate Thermal Management thumbup.gif

Yours is limited or standard? It does looks like the perfect light.. dang
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QUOTE(polkiuj @ Aug 27 2009, 03:53 PM)
"claimed that 245 lumens, is it true?" It's probably true, to a point. It might mean that it makes 245 lumens, maximum (or minimum or average) at the emitter. Different manufacturers state brightness differently. The best spec is "minimum or average out the front lumens".

I've never tried this particular light so I dunno but most ultrafires is like a really cheap Fenix or Eagletac. It's made lousier and it can't take water. The plus points are it is easily modded, you can mod it to take water. But modding = cash icon_idea.gif

My personal suggestion: Get an Eagletac P100A2 or P100C2. The awesomest of cheap(ish) lights!!
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speaking of p100a2, mine broke. haha

in CC now, home internet got problem, can't post any photos.

i think philightsophy got some photos, i'll wait for him to post.

got into a quarrel with my bro, got mad and threw the p100a2 full force onto the ground and the head snapped off.

no worries, according to phil, i'm getting a new head unit under warranty rclxm9.gif thumbup.gif

he told eagletac that i dropped it from 4th floor, yet still can claim warranty. sweat.gif

the part that snapped off is kinda a weak point, once you see the photos, you'll understand.

now i understood why ET made a MkII for the T100c2 with the thicker head unit.

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i think the mkII only has a thicker bezel or the bezel teeth.
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ah yeah, thats the word. bezel.

kept using 'head unit' instead sweat.gif
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QUOTE(pseudoblue @ Aug 27 2009, 04:59 PM)
Can't see ur pic from here, have to go back and see again smile.gif Saw the review in CPF already, the Legion II is simply superb drool.gif
So he was telling the truth in the specs: Ultimate Thermal Management  thumbup.gif

Yours is limited or standard? It does looks like the perfect light.. dang
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QUOTE(Nightstalker1993 @ Aug 27 2009, 05:35 PM)
speaking of p100a2, mine broke. haha

in CC now, home internet got problem, can't post any photos.

i think philightsophy got some photos, i'll wait for him to post.

got into a quarrel with my bro, got mad and threw the p100a2 full force onto the ground and the head snapped off.


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who told you to throw it on the floor?, ur suppose to throw ur eagletac at him laugh.gif

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actually yeah...i'm picturing you throwing the light on the floor and it doesn't look right...
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oh well, thank god my diffuser cap was on the light, else it'll damage the floor tiles. if that happens, my mom's gonna kill me laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Nightstalker1993 @ Aug 27 2009, 06:30 PM)
if that happens, my mom's gonna kill me laugh.gif
errrrr... with what? M2X-'C4'? brows.gif
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Hi andrewlim8,

If you prefer a light which is programmable and offer good quality, you can try out Quarks too. Speak to polkiuj about it, he will be able to assist you smile.gif .There are other brands too, but I do not have personal experience with them.
What is important is that you purchase a light that you prefer or like. We are quite fortunate to have various brands available to us to choose, so getting a favorite light is easier smile.gif


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QUOTE(Nightstalker1993 @ Aug 27 2009, 06:30 PM)
oh well, thank god my diffuser cap was on the light, else it'll damage the floor tiles. if that happens, my mom's gonna kill me laugh.gif
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Your mum might not kill you, but I will! Haha!
The "temporary head" is on its way tongue.gif

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QUOTE(icaruz76 @ Aug 27 2009, 04:02 PM)
just chat with Neo few hrs back..the sst-50 will be driven at 4-4.5A so basically a 1000+ lumens at the emmitter. the sst-90 will be driven at 7A and uses different head from the current Legion II. Price for the sst-50 will be US$248 + US$11 ems to Malaysia. For current user the price will be lower..
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Hey, i've been checking out about these SST emitters, seems to be something really new and goin over 1000+ lumens, current draw is quite high as well. I saw your CPF post.. Legion II gonna be the first to come out with this upgrade? Any beamshots, comparisons, features yet?

other info for those who haven't know abt it yet:
Luminus.com - White LEDs
Olight with SST-90...?

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QUOTE(ArmorFiend @ Aug 27 2009, 04:01 PM)
strinq, i seldom go into CPF coz it loads prett slow.. dunno why but other forums are pretty fast... And yea, i could use the momentary on/off on the EagleTac P100A2, but strobe is more fun ma, kekee...

Polkiuj, ur right..it's 195 lumen instesd of 225.. and since then i have been EDC on P100A2.. Must be a bit blur after came back from watching Laughing Gor:Turning Point..  :>
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Teehee! I haven't really used the P100A2 much. But I tried plenty of it. Everyone was happy with it. Teehee! The knurling is just too awesome!


QUOTE(Nightstalker1993 @ Aug 27 2009, 05:35 PM)
speaking of p100a2, mine broke. haha

in CC now, home internet got problem, can't post any photos.

i think philightsophy got some photos, i'll wait for him to post.

got into a quarrel with my bro, got mad and threw the p100a2 full force onto the ground and the head snapped off.

no worries, according to phil, i'm getting a new head unit under warranty rclxm9.gif thumbup.gif

he told eagletac that i dropped it from 4th floor, yet still can claim warranty. sweat.gif

the part that snapped off is kinda a weak point, once you see the photos, you'll understand.

now i understood why ET made a MkII for the T100c2 with the thicker head unit.
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Erm... you're crazy!! Haha! Post some pics man Philight!! I wanna see what this crazy dude did to the poor ET!! Oh btw, I'm taking deposits for borrowing my light to your parties. After you throw it on the floor how? doh.gif

Great warranty man!! Woot woot!! Cheers to Philightsophy!!


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another member came into my flashlight family blush.gif

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Hey, i've been checking out about these SST emitters, seems to be something really new and goin over 1000+ lumens, current draw is quite high as well. I saw your CPF post..  Legion II gonna be the first to come out with this upgrade? Any beamshots, comparisons, features yet?

other info for those who haven't know abt it yet:
Luminus.com - White LEDs
Olight with SST-90...?
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i think the first production torch with SST led is the Olight M20 Ti(50) and Intimidator(90). Beamshot from Neo prototype SST is not that good. The tint is too cool and blueish..he is trying to find a warmer tint.

BTW i have one D26 SST-50 drop-in coming next week. But this will be driven at half the power approx 2.5A, and according to Nailbender the OTF lumens is around 425-450.
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hello all, morning (before it's too late... tongue.gif)

anyway... i just got this new UltraFire charger that charge 18650 batteries... may i know how to know that the battery will fully charge? normally how long it would take to full charge and what if i leave it overnight? does the charger will auto-shut off...?
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QUOTE(sniper69 @ Aug 28 2009, 11:55 AM)
hello all, morning (before it's too late... tongue.gif)

anyway... i just got this new UltraFire charger that charge 18650 batteries... may i know how to know that the battery will fully charge? normally how long it would take to full charge and what if i leave it overnight? does the charger will auto-shut off...?
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Hi, i too have one of these..fully charge will be indicated by green light..charging time around 3-4 hrs. and please do not leave it overnight because there is no auto shut off..the best method is get yourself a DMM and chk the charging voltage across the two terminals..it should read 4.9-5.2V.
For your 18650..you also should chk the voltage hot off the charger, in case the voltage is above 4.2V..you might be having a defective or older charger.
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QUOTE(icaruz76 @ Aug 28 2009, 12:05 PM)
Hi, i too have one of these..fully charge will be indicated by green light..charging time around 3-4 hrs. and please do not leave it overnight because there is no auto shut off..the best method is get yourself a DMM and chk the charging voltage across the two terminals..it should read 4.9-5.2V.
For your 18650..you also should chk the voltage hot off the charger, in case the voltage is above 4.2V..you might be having a defective or older charger.
ahaaaa... thank you for the information

erm... do we have the kind of charger that can leave overnight...?

that DMM, i shall get it A.S.A.P lah like this... sweat.gif
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ahaaaa... thank you for the information

erm... do we have the kind of charger that can leave overnight...?

that DMM, i shall get it A.S.A.P lah like this... sweat.gif
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sadly there is no overnight charger for this lithium ion/cobalt type of cells. this cell is dangerous if not properly handle. Pls do read the battery guide on CPF proper for better explanation.
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QUOTE(sniper69 @ Aug 28 2009, 12:12 PM)
ahaaaa... thank you for the information

erm... do we have the kind of charger that can leave overnight...?

that DMM, i shall get it A.S.A.P lah like this... sweat.gif
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QUOTE(icaruz76 @ Aug 28 2009, 12:27 PM)
sadly there is no overnight charger for this lithium ion/cobalt type of cells. this cell is dangerous if not properly handle. Pls do read the battery guide on CPF proper for better explanation.
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I have an ultrafire charger and I monitor it when charging, I do not let the green light go on. I have a DMM to test and normally stop below 4.20. Ultrafire Li-ON chargers have trickle charge, quite dangerous!

You can still leave it to charge until the green light comes on, and then remove the batteries immediately from the charger. The voltage might probably be read from around 4.25 which is still okay, leaving the batteries to rest for 15mins+ after charged will have some reduction around 0.01-0.02. I'm abit paranoid and I prefer to charge around 4.20. Trickle charge for long hours (not sure exactly) might leave the batteries at 4.3, which will reduce the lifespan. But it also depends on how depleted the battery is, if fully depleted, I guess it's safe to charge overnight, take about 6 hours. But having it trickle for very long and more than 4.4 voltage can result in a fire, possible explosion.

New Pila chargers have a complete cut off point at somewhere 4.200 when the green light appears. More details discussed at CPF regarding Ultrafire chargers. I'm not sure if there are any dealers for Pila chargers in MY.

For me, I'm still fine with Ultrafire chargers. Once, I set an alarm *2 hours later to get up just to switch off my charger *and pull out battery, then go back to sleep. rclxub.gif

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New Pila chargers have a complete cut off point at somewhere 4.200 when the green light appears. More details discussed at CPF regarding Ultrafire chargers. I'm not sure if there are any dealers for Pila chargers in MY.

For me, I'm still fine with Ultrafire chargers. Once, I set an alarm *2 hours later to get up just to switch off my charger *and pull out battery, then go back to sleep.  rclxub.gif
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oops didn't know Pila charger has auto cutoff. It should have since it cost more than the Ultrafire. BTW i still am not that comfortable to leave the charger overnight ..just follow the Murphy's law...anything that can go wrong,it will with the worse case scenario..so just be extra careful..
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i think the first production torch with SST led is the Olight M20 Ti(50) and Intimidator(90). Beamshot from Neo prototype SST is not that good. The tint is too cool and blueish..he is trying to find a warmer tint.

BTW i have one D26 SST-50 drop-in coming next week. But this will be driven at half the power approx 2.5A, and according to Nailbender the OTF lumens is around 425-450.
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i guess neo is keeping some secrets still huh with the prototype, its not even in Olight's website... yet. Neo might have gotten the 6500K from luminus original spec, hence the blueish tint? It's not gonna be popular with blueish tint yea...

MCE cool white is more pleasant, however with same current draw at 2.5A it's giving 600+ lumens, more than SST. I did thought why in the world ppl would bother with SST emitters since MCE have higher lumens with the same current? But hey, it dawned on me the reason is that SST emmiters were underdriven, MCE were overdriven! doh.gif

The SST seems to be, were meant to draw higher current for more lumens, and possible lesser heat generation and more tolerant than MCE, well these are my speculation from reading info here and there and from luminus. Both SST and MCE has a juncton heat max at 150 degrees, but SST max draw at 9A, MCE at 700mA. Although lumines say it ranges from 1A - 13A. But flashlight manufacturers have taken MCE over 2-3A without any problems with sufficient heat sinking.. rclxub.gif So, I'm not sure abt the future of luminus, but it seems that flashlights manufacturers might go for bigger battery configuration to give that 9A-13A output from a single die.

Once you get your drop in, do post beamshots yea, is it for your SF? wink.gif
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Hi Philightsophy. The dome on my T20C2 emitter came off after I cleaned it too hard.doh.gif Without the dome and the silicone surrounding the die, the light is now giving a yellowish tint. Don't see any significant reduction in brightness and the hotspot appears more centered than before. However, I read somewhere in CPF that without the dome and silicone, air will kill the exposed die. I'm sure the Eagletac warranty does not cover this but if my light finally dies, is there any replacement part that I can buy?

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Hi Philightsophy.  The dome on my T20C2 emitter came off after I cleaned it too hard.doh.gif  Without the dome and the silicone surrounding the die, the light is now giving a yellowish tint.  Don't see any significant reduction in brightness and the hotspot appears more centered than before.  However, I read somewhere in CPF that without the dome and silicone, air will kill the exposed die.  I'm sure the Eagletac warranty does not cover this but if my light finally dies, is there any replacement part that I can buy?

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I have sent an email to ET regarding this matter. In the meantime, I still have a spare T20C2 head if you want to use it first.
Strangely enough, the tint of your T20C2 has turned 'neutral white'. Rather interesting.
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Dude! LED's are not meant to be wiped!! O.o Oh well, now you know. Hope ET makes it well, if not, time to mod! Mwahaha!
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Hey.. take a closer look at your surrounding LED die and compare it with the pic below from another T20C2, is there some sort of burnt pattern? unsure.gif

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Hi, Philightsophy. Thanks for the offer of the spare head. However, I am starting to like this 'mutant' die. Just tested it outside in the dark and throw is still acceptable. Now I know why people go for the warmer tints. You can see vegetation so much better. My only worry is how long the led will last without the protective dome. By the way, without the dome, the smooth reflector produces horrible beam.


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QUOTE(pseudoblue @ Aug 28 2009, 07:42 PM)
Hey.. take a closer look at your surrounding LED die and compare it with the pic below from another T20C2, is there some sort of burnt pattern?  unsure.gif
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No burnt pattern here. Just some silicone debris.

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oh phew.. good though smile.gif

The cover or dome suppose to be tough, I've seen vids on how to solder these emitters and they appear to be durable. Did you wipe really hard?
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QUOTE(pseudoblue @ Aug 28 2009, 08:03 PM)
oh phew.. good though smile.gif

The cover or dome suppose to be tough, I've seen vids on how to solder these emitters and they appear to be durable. Did you wipe really hard?
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The dome is the focusing lens of the LED. It is not meant to be tough. =D
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QUOTE(pseudoblue @ Aug 28 2009, 08:03 PM)
oh phew.. good though smile.gif

The cover or dome suppose to be tough, I've seen vids on how to solder these emitters and they appear to be durable. Did you wipe really hard?
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I believe it was quite hard but partly because I was already frustrated by the off-centered hotspot. Anyway, all is not lost because now I don't have the off-centering hotspot and a more pleasing tint. Maybe the dome was sitting uneven on the die and caused the off-centering. Hope the die does not lose its brightness over time or worse, get burnt out, If it does, then it'll be time get the solder gun out.
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QUOTE(eow1973 @ Aug 28 2009, 07:52 PM)
Hi, Philightsophy.  Thanks for the offer of the spare head.  However, I am starting to like this 'mutant' die.  Just tested it outside in the dark and throw is still acceptable.  Now I know why people go for the warmer tints.  You can see vegetation so much better.  My only worry is how long the led will last without the protective dome.  By the way, without the dome, the smooth reflector produces horrible beam.
I like neutral white tints smile.gif , and I am not alone on this haha! biggrin.gif
I have a response from ET and they will replace the LED for free when I send the T20C2 head to them on your behalf smile.gif
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QUOTE(pseudoblue @ Aug 28 2009, 03:27 PM)
i guess neo is keeping some secrets still huh with the prototype, its not even in Olight's website... yet. Neo might have gotten the 6500K from luminus original spec, hence the blueish tint? It's not gonna be popular with blueish tint yea...

MCE cool white is more pleasant, however with same current draw at 2.5A it's giving 600+ lumens, more than SST. I did thought why in the world ppl would bother with SST emitters since MCE have higher lumens with the same current? But hey, it dawned on me the reason is that SST emmiters were underdriven, MCE were overdriven! doh.gif

The SST seems to be, were meant to draw higher current for more lumens, and possible lesser heat generation and more tolerant than MCE, well these are my speculation from reading info here and there and from luminus. Both SST and MCE has a juncton heat max at 150 degrees, but SST max draw at 9A, MCE at 700mA. Although lumines say it ranges from 1A - 13A. But flashlight manufacturers have taken MCE over 2-3A without any problems with sufficient heat sinking.. rclxub.gif So, I'm not sure abt the future of luminus, but it seems that flashlights manufacturers might go for bigger battery configuration to give that 9A-13A output from a single die.

Once you get your drop in, do post beamshots yea, is it for your SF?  wink.gif
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max current draw for MCE is 2.8A due to the 700mA per die..that is why most of the modders and manufacturers alike push it to the max..just like the Legion II..theoretically it should give an output of around 700-800 lumens emitter wise but the OTF i think for Legion II as tested by MrG using his recalibrated IS its around 640 peak. For the SST-90, as tested by Electrolumens he smoked his 24g wires..thats how high the current draw is.
As tested by Justin Case the obvious max current should be around 7A and this give an output in the range of 1500 Lumens steady for few minutes and only drops a little after 20 mins. This should be a more practical approach and Neo has told me that the new legion II with SST-90 will also draw 7A and uses bigger head.

actually i'm still waiting for the outcome from Mac prototype heatsink for SST-90 on Mag. and with the new introduction of F size LiFepo4 cell from Download i think its going to be very busy modding season come this fall. thumbup.gif

Btw the SST-50 drop-in is for the bored SF 6p from Electronguru.
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QUOTE(Philightsophy @ Aug 28 2009, 11:15 PM)
I like neutral white tints smile.gif , and I am not alone on this haha!  biggrin.gif
I have a response from ET and they will replace the LED for free when I send the T20C2 head to them on your behalf smile.gif
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rclxms.gif Thanks, bro. That's the benefit of getting lights from local dealers. Anyway, I've just tested it and it still lights up an entire cargo hold plus color rendition seems improved. So, lets work it to death first. Any new Eagletac lights in the horizon utilizing the new xp-g or sst leds?

By the way, got the Jetbeam RRT-2 from Nexro a few days back. A fantastic lighting tool and my last XR-E flashlight, hopefully.

Cheers and thanks again, Kah Wai.
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rclxms.gif Thanks, bro.  That's the benefit of getting lights from local dealers.  Anyway, I've just tested it and it still lights up an entire cargo hold plus color rendition seems improved.  So, lets work it to death first.  Any new Eagletac lights in the horizon utilizing the new xp-g or sst leds? 

By the way, got the Jetbeam RRT-2 from Nexro a few days back.  A fantastic lighting tool and my last XR-E flashlight, hopefully.

Cheers and thanks again, Kah Wai.
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You are welcome smile.gif
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QUOTE(icaruz76 @ Aug 28 2009, 11:29 PM)
max current draw for MCE is 2.8A due to the 700mA per die..that is why most of the modders and manufacturers alike push it to the max..just like the Legion II..theoretically it should give an output of around 700-800 lumens emitter wise but the OTF i think for Legion II as tested by MrG using his recalibrated IS its around 640 peak. For the SST-90, as tested by Electrolumens he smoked his 24g wires..thats how high the current draw is.
As tested by Justin Case the obvious max current should be around 7A and this give an output in the range of 1500 Lumens steady for few minutes and only drops a little after 20 mins. This should be a more practical approach and Neo has told me that the new legion II with SST-90 will also draw 7A and uses bigger head.

actually i'm still waiting for the outcome from Mac prototype heatsink for SST-90 on Mag. and with the new introduction of F size LiFepo4 cell from Download i think its going to be very busy modding season come this fall. thumbup.gif

Btw the SST-50 drop-in is for the bored SF 6p from Electronguru.
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hey thanks for mentioning 3 CPF members, didn't know MrGman did a huge list of lumen readings. You've spent alot of time in CPF? there's still alot to read about!

So the MCE quad LEDs are in series, thanks for clearing that up. I'll be checking info on SST on Mag and the cell you mentioned shocking.gif

Hey if you can, show your SST-50 drop-in and 6P when it arrives, post some beamshots brows.gif


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ahaaaa... thank you for the information

erm... do we have the kind of charger that can leave overnight...?

that DMM, i shall get it A.S.A.P lah like this... sweat.gif
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I have an ultrafire charger and I monitor it when charging...
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oops didn't know Pila charger has auto cutoff. It should have since it cost more than the Ultrafire. BTW i still am not that comfortable to leave the charger overnight ..just follow the Murphy's law...anything that can go wrong,it will with the worse case scenario..so just be extra careful..
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Heys, just to update on Ultrafire charger. I've did a test today and left the charge until the green light came on, I probably noticed it 5-10 mins later. Took it off warm off the charger and do a DMM test and it shows 4.20. I let it rest for 15mins and it is at 4.19. It appears to be at a safe level. I won't be doing continuity test over the green light though, CPF members have tried it already to proof there's trickle charge on the Ultrafire WF-139.

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QUOTE(pseudoblue @ Aug 29 2009, 10:30 AM)
Heys, just to update on Ultrafire charger. I've did a test today and left the charge until the green light came on, I probably noticed it 5-10 mins later. Took it off warm off the charger and do a DMM test and it shows 4.20. I let it rest for 15mins and it is at 4.19. It appears to be at a safe level. I won't be doing continuity test over the green light though, CPF members have tried it already to proof there's trickle charge on the Ultrafire WF-139.
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Hi, its usually a hit or miss with this brand..so far i have bought 2 units from DX. RL-118 and C3 SS..both arrived safely and comes pre-lubed. But feedbacks from CPF stated otherwise on this brand. i guess it depends on your luck..so far my two Ultrafire works fine..
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guys, just to share a good deal on Panasonic Evolta battery, you can get it at RM5.90 for a pack of 2 and RM11.50 for a pack of 4 at Jusco supermarket. Normal price from Best Denki and Harvey Norman is RM6.90 and RM12.90 respectively. I got mine from Jusco 1 Utama. Not sure how long the promotion will last. biggrin.gif
i know cpfers don't recommend the use of alky in our flashlights, but i've use these with very good results, much better than those crappy and leaky energizer e2 and longer lasting. thumbup.gif

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QUOTE(RookieDaddy @ Aug 29 2009, 08:37 PM)
guys, just to share a good deal on Panasonic Evolta battery, you can get it at RM5.90 for a pack of 2 and RM11.50 for a pack of 4 at Jusco supermarket. Normal price from Best Denki and Harvey Norman is RM6.90 and RM12.90 respectively. I got mine from Jusco 1 Utama. Not sure how long the promotion will last.  biggrin.gif
i know cpfers don't recommend the use of alky in our flashlights, but i've use these with very good results, much better than those crappy and leaky energizer e2 and longer lasting.  thumbup.gif
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Just curious, which light do you use this batteries for?
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Quarks, Nitecore, Fenix, Olight, and some made-in-china...
I'm using both rechargeables and these Pana-alky and usually run them hot and drain them pretty badly.

EDIT: oops... i almost forgot... use them in MiniMag Incan too. brows.gif
EDIT 2: also add ZebraLight to the list... hahaha... doh.gif

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QUOTE(RookieDaddy @ Aug 29 2009, 11:13 PM)
Quarks, Nitecore, Fenix, Olight, and some made-in-china...
I'm using both rechargeables and these Pana-alky and usually run them hot and drain them pretty badly.

EDIT: oops... i almost forgot... use them in MiniMag Incan too.  brows.gif
EDIT 2: also add ZebraLight to the list... hahaha...  doh.gif
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Talking about miniMag 2AA, anybody here tried to mod it? Thinking of turning mine to LED..but its the only incan i have left..I have in mind to replace it with a Q3-5A emitter and using OFC heatsink..At least this emitter is warmer and more like incan in color rendition aspect..
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QUOTE(RookieDaddy @ Aug 29 2009, 08:37 PM)
guys, just to share a good deal on Panasonic Evolta battery, you can get it at RM5.90 for a pack of 2 and RM11.50 for a pack of 4 at Jusco supermarket. Normal price from Best Denki and Harvey Norman is RM6.90 and RM12.90 respectively. I got mine from Jusco 1 Utama. Not sure how long the promotion will last.  biggrin.gif
i know cpfers don't recommend the use of alky in our flashlights, but i've use these with very good results, much better than those crappy and leaky energizer e2 and longer lasting.  thumbup.gif
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Thanks for the info. It's okay to use alkalines if one understand its chemistry and limit. Some CPF members hit a dud because they assumed. But mistakes were learnt, i did too. biggrin.gif I have flashlights that can take alkalines only and its in my car, they don't loose charge in heated conditions like if the car is under the sun very long.

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Talking about miniMag 2AA, anybody here tried to mod it? Thinking of turning mine to LED..but its the only incan i have left..I have in mind to replace it with a Q3-5A emitter and using OFC heatsink..At least this emitter is warmer and more like incan in color rendition aspect..
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OK, well this is nothing compared to the OFC heatsink mod. But, I've used a minimag mod for this flashlight (can buy in Ace Hardware), 3x 5mm LEDs, comes with reflector but I removed it, blueish tint and very very dim on 2AA, it has a boost only circuit but it's not working very well, so I exchanged with 3x N batteries with a spacer.

Hey your OFC heatsink you ordered from CPF? comes with the electronic as well? You can put an MCE-E emitter instead.. thumbup.gif brows.gif

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nope..only the heatsink..for me i dont need the MCE..just want a warm LED..

BTW nice mod..

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QUOTE(pseudoblue @ Aug 29 2009, 10:30 AM)
hey thanks for mentioning 3 CPF members, didn't know MrGman did a huge list of lumen readings. You've spent alot of time in CPF? there's still alot to read about!

So the MCE quad LEDs are in series, thanks for clearing that up. I'll be checking info on SST on Mag and the cell you mentioned  shocking.gif

Hey if you can, show your SST-50 drop-in and 6P when it arrives, post some beamshots  brows.gif


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Heys, just to update on Ultrafire charger. I've did a test today and left the charge until the green light came on, I probably noticed it 5-10 mins later. Took it off warm off the charger and do a DMM test and it shows 4.20. I let it rest for 15mins and it is at 4.19. It appears to be at a safe level. I won't be doing continuity test over the green light though, CPF members have tried it already to proof there's trickle charge on the Ultrafire WF-139.
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You didn't know? That was the cause of a lot of mis-understanding and real understanding. Mwahaha!

I left my WF-139 on two nights ago. My 14500 measured 4.13V in the morning! Haha! Probably a dying battery xD
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QUOTE(polkiuj @ Sep 1 2009, 02:48 PM)
I left my WF-139 on two nights ago. My 14500 measured 4.13V in the morning! Haha! Probably a dying battery xD
I think the 4.13V is within normal resting voltage range. Your cell doesn't feels hot off the charger doesn't it? rclxs0.gif
Eventhough it's recommended practice to pull the cell right after the light turns green, but I think these newer WF-139 chargers that have open circuit voltage of ~5V have a better charge termination. I remember reading that most of the issues with WF-139 are with those older version that reads ~11V open circuit. shocking.gif
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back from singapore.

managed to get eneloops from best denki takashimaya, 5th floor. i'll be checking them out & seeing how they perform. sorry bro strinq, maybe next time yea?

they mentioned it is recommended to charge & discharge them 2-3 times to maximise battery capacity. i know charging (place batts in charger & charge, duh) but discharge means what..use them as normal izit? i heard maha powerex cam discharge batts on the charger, no?

group fyi: i asked airasia & changi airport staff & they both mentioned that dry batts & flashlights are allowed as check-in & handcarry luggage when entering & departing singapore. SAK & li-ions batts not sure tho.

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QUOTE(ray2ray @ Sep 2 2009, 03:20 PM)
they mentioned it is recommended to charge & discharge them 2-3 times to maximise battery capacity. i know charging (place batts in charger & charge, duh) but discharge means what..use them as normal izit? i heard maha powerex cam discharge batts on the charger, no?
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Maha chargers have the re-conditioning ability, which will discharge and recharge batteries. Usually, you will do discharge/recharge on 2400 - 2500mA Nimh batteries when they have been stored too long or haven't used for a while. The discharge and recharge function breaks crystals to smaller size within the NiMH plates so they can retain their energy storage as before, so doing discharge/recharge 2-3 times is better for these kind of batteries. You don't have to recharge new batteries, just use them. However, you can discharge and recharge new batteries also no issue. But high heat, overdischarging and overcharging (long trickle charge) can reduce the lifespan of NiMH batts, you discharge/recharge also no use. You'll notice when your batteries become very hot to the touch when discharging or recharging them. It's normal to feel warm after a full charge on the batteries. If you got digital multimeter, it's good to monitor the state of your battery voltage after couple months of usage.

LSD NiMH batteries like eneloop 2000ma, powerex imedion 2100ma, have no problems with crystal build ups within the nickle plates, so these batteries retain their charge longer and you don't really have to perform discharge/recharge. But the high heat, overdischarging overcharging still applies to these batteries, they can still die. Just use them, I think when they reach 0.8 volts (i've never take reading before, but i will this time), need to recharge them already.

Oh, to answer your other question, NiMH are alot happier when being used then keeping them stored (your question to using them as normal), so yeah, use them also can be a form of discharging.

To add on my earlier statement, LSD batteries should be recondition also but not as much as normal NiMH batteries. I'm still new to LSD batts, I've noted down the date purchased and plan to do a reconditioning after 6-8 months. I'm also monitoring the voltage.

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QUOTE(ray2ray @ Sep 2 2009, 03:20 PM)
back from singapore.

managed to get eneloops from best denki takashimaya, 5th floor. i'll be checking them out & seeing how they perform. sorry bro strinq, maybe next time yea?


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Are there any C or D size eneloops in SIN?

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hi ray,

Are there any C or D size eneloops in SIN?
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yup, they do. i dont know about harvey norman sing but denki takashimaya had a pretty good range available.

re: pseudoblue - umm, ok. sounds complicated. so, in other words i just use them like normal ya? charge them till full, then use like normal. ok got it, thx for the tip..

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QUOTE(ray2ray @ Sep 2 2009, 04:56 PM)
yup, they do. i dont know about harvey norman sing but denki takashimaya had a pretty good range available.

re: pseudoblue - umm, ok. sounds complicated. so, in other words i just use them like normal ya? charge them till full, then use like normal. ok got it, thx for the tip..

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do you know the price?
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do you know the price?
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sorry, didnt check. only bought 4AA + charger set & 2x AAAs.

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QUOTE(ray2ray @ Sep 2 2009, 05:09 PM)
sorry, didnt check. only bought 4AA + charger set & 2x AAAs.

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QUOTE(ray2ray @ Sep 2 2009, 04:56 PM)
re: pseudoblue - umm, ok. sounds complicated. so, in other words i just use them like normal ya? charge them till full, then use like normal. ok got it, thx for the tip..

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Ah, sorry for long text biggrin.gif

Ya just use normal, you using eneloops 2000ma right? so no problem la.. Don't leave them in the car under the hot sun for very long, until you get into your car and it feel like can "boil eggs".. that is bad for NiMH.
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Eneloop Universal Charger, Size C and D

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?act=ST&f...0#entry27208138
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QUOTE(damonlbs @ Sep 2 2009, 05:38 PM)
Thanks for link bro..looks like more expensive than my Accupower Evolution..but at least we have locals selling D size LSD.. rclxms.gif
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Yo,

I just got the Quark AA Tactical today from Polkiuj. Also, he got me a 14500 I wanted for it. Thanks dude, you rock notworthy.gif

Okay... I manage to do some quick beam comparison test with the Quark AA vs Fenix LD10 and TK40. Kinda want to rate its lumen difference, and results were more than it's specifications (based on Fenix's).

Two test distance 1) 5 meters from wall and 2) 10 meters from furniture.

Firstly, battery comparison - According to this thread (picture heavy!), there were brightness difference using NiMH and LiIon. But I've tested with Imedion AA and AW14500, did not notice any significant difference as in linked thread. (I've tested both batteries at high and turbo in comparison with the TK40 medium and high, so it was easier to remember the different beam brightness).

So next, further tests were done with the LiIon battery. At Turbo mode, the brightness matches TK40 at high! Which Fenix rated this at 277 lumens shocking.gif The Quark AA felt warmth after about 30 seconds. And the TK40 medium mode matches the Quark AA at high which Fenix rated at 90 lumens (TK40 does appear slightly brighter than the Quark on both modes, more floody hotspot).

As for the LD10, Fenix rate turbo mode at 120 lumens. At high, beam to beam comparison showed that the Quark AA was close to it, very close that it looked like the same brightness (my LD10 with SMO does appear more neutral blink.gif ).

Quark lumen rating appears a lot different. In their specifications, turbo is at 90 lumens, but my test showed it's close to 277 lumens. Hrm, I wonder if their current draw specs were accurate too. rclxub.gif





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QUOTE(pseudoblue @ Sep 2 2009, 08:53 PM)


Quark lumen rating appears a lot different. In their specifications, turbo is at 90 lumens, but my test showed it's close to 277 lumens. Hrm, I wonder if their current draw specs were accurate too.  rclxub.gif
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I think the ratings was based on AA cell not 14500. BTW gauging brightness just by naked eye alone is not really accurate. Even a lumens difference of 30% is not noticeable.

Btw congrats on having the Quark to play with. I'm still waiting for two Ti Quark and just now 47s announce there will be a new AAA Quark with the best LED in it..maybe the XP-G too..hopefully. There goes my money again...
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QUOTE(icaruz76 @ Sep 2 2009, 09:52 PM)
Bro,
I think the ratings was based on AA cell not 14500. BTW gauging brightness just by naked eye alone is not really accurate. Even a lumens difference of 30% is not noticeable.

Btw congrats on having the Quark to play with. I'm still waiting for two Ti Quark and just now 47s announce there will be a new AAA Quark with the best LED in it..maybe the XP-G too..hopefully. There goes my money again...
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I see.. after reading your post, i went to compare with a new Duracell AA battery provided in the package. Tested at 1 meter, and compared again with 14500. It's hard to tell.. So having 2 Quark AA would be the best comparison. Anyway won't be testing any further.

Well, hope you get your Quarks soon, they are sweet! New XP-G emitters coming?, AAA? wow.. drool.gif




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Hey guys!

Thanks for the praise! blush.gif

Hehe!

Quark AA on 14500 and NiMH is a huge difference. I've tested both side by side. Unless your Imedion is super NiMH (dunno if it exists xD).

4Sevens rates AA as follows: Ratings are out the front, minimum tested.
Max (AA) = 90 lumens
Max (14500) = 170 lumens
High is 70 lumens for all battery configurations (NiMH and 14500 is both 70 lumens)

47 also don't publish current draw, only current to the LED. Current draw will vary as the battery drains. If you want, I can measure draw on freshly charged batteries. =D

BTW, you can't measure lumens by looking at the beam. A thrower would look brighter at longer ranges and a flooder will look brighter on very short distances. Try doing a ceiling bounce. Point both lights at the same spot on the ceiling (nearer to the ceiling is better), switch it on and look at the surrounding. It's more accurate than looking at the beam but still not very accurate. =D

Nooooo!! 47!! Don't release so many lights so fast! I can't keep up!! cry.gif

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Hey Walter, this post is for you, maybe for all who owns Quark AA.

Found out some info at Quark thread part 5... I noticed your 14500 battery jacket had a tear near the negative end, you should use electrical tape to cover that gap. If that dangling piece goes missing you leave a portion exposed to short circuit.

Here's why, bare with me, trying to explain as simple as I can. 14500 is longer than normal AA. Notice how the battery negative end are the same level with the Quark body. The Quark body need to touch the tailcap ring to have a connection. There's an o-ring in the middle of the tailcap which protect most of the 14500 from any direct connection, but only until its edges. The 14500 jacket at the edges is preventing any short circuit. So take note.

7777 has acknowledged this issue and they are coming out with new rings, don't have much info and I think the new rings will be 1-2mm thicker with a circular gap, so only the body touches the ring earlier. They should have made the body 1mm longer in the first place. Friction is my concern now. Hope that all these little things will be solved in the XPG models.

But hey, let this not stop anyone from getting Quark, it's still one of the very best EDC wub.gif


Added on September 3, 2009, 10:39 am
QUOTE(polkiuj @ Sep 3 2009, 09:45 AM)
Hey guys!

Thanks for the praise!  blush.gif

Hehe!

Quark AA on 14500 and NiMH is a huge difference. I've tested both side by side. Unless your Imedion is super NiMH (dunno if it exists xD).

4Sevens rates AA as follows: Ratings are out the front, minimum tested.
Max (AA) = 90 lumens
Max (14500) = 170 lumens
High is 70 lumens for all battery configurations (NiMH and 14500 is both 70 lumens)

47 also don't publish current draw, only current to the LED. Current draw will vary as the battery drains. If you want, I can measure draw on freshly charged batteries. =D

BTW, you can't measure lumens by looking at the beam. A thrower would look brighter at longer ranges and a flooder will look brighter on very short distances. Try doing a ceiling bounce. Point both lights at the same spot on the ceiling (nearer to the ceiling is better), switch it on and look at the surrounding. It's more accurate than looking at the beam but still not very accurate. =D

Nooooo!! 47!! Don't release so many lights so fast! I can't keep up!! cry.gif
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perhaps u're right, need 2 quark to see the real difference.

Ah, its ok, no need for the measure smile.gif



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Hi pseudoblue,

I think 4sevens published current is correct, as polkiuj said, 4sevens published the LED current not the battery.
Here my measurement on battery current draw:
My 123^2 draw 450mA on Turbo on 8.43V, which is 0.45x8.43= 3.79Watts, minus the heat and efficiency loss, it will get around 3W LED output

And the LED max according to 4sevens is 990mA, which make sense, as LED usually required around 3V to drive, so 3 x 0.99 = 2.97W, almost 3W output.

So i guess when you use Li-on, it will drive the AA to 3W which is almost max of the R2, while Fenix usually is around 3W also. (In fact my PD30 draw the same amount 450mA too, thats why I guessing the Quark not only same designer, but produced by same factory? brows.gif )

That is why you get same brightness.

That is why also the AA cannot drive to max brightness (only 90lm) because it will need more than 2000mA (maybe 2500mA) at 1.5V to drive the LED in 3W, which the battery may be too hot and die.

just 1 sen.
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QUOTE(polkiuj @ Sep 3 2009, 09:45 AM)

4Sevens rates AA as follows: Ratings are out the front, minimum tested.
Max (AA) = 90 lumens
Max (14500) = 170 lumens
High is 70 lumens for all battery configurations (NiMH and 14500 is both 70 lumens)
Has this anything to do with buck only circuit vs buck-boost circuit? So, we can replace AA with 14500 for all flashlight with buck boost circuit to get extra brightness, throw etc.... rclxms.gif
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I think so, any driver support 0.9V to 4.2V (like the Quark AA) should be a buck-boost driver, because the LED required somewhere around 3V to drive it, so when you are using AA 1.5V, it boost to 3.xV to drive the max, but due to the current limitation of AA and the efficiency of the driver, you will not get the Max lumens.

While when you put a li-on which is 4.2V into it, the driver will buck (limit) the voltage to 3.XV to drive the LED, but since the Li-ion is able to supply enough current without much drop in the voltage, so it draw enough current to drive the LED.

So if your flashlight state its input voltage range is up to (from 0.9 to ) 4.2V, then you will always get brighter output when you use li-on. The Quark AA^2 however does provide almost as bright as the 123^2, this is due to the 2AA (1.5V x2) makes about 3V in total, same goes to 1x123A (3V), it will almost as bright as the 2x123A (6V).

Having said that, a 2x123A will always be a buck-only driver, so it is always in the max.

BTW, the optic in the lens also play important rules in the output, as well as the heat sink design. Therefore, a single 18650 (3.7V) jetbeam RRT-2 can produce a very bright output due to its reflector and heat sink design.
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QUOTE(susuman @ Sep 3 2009, 02:29 PM)
BTW, the optic in the lens also play important rules in the output, as well as the heat sink design. Therefore, a single 18650 (3.7V) jetbeam RRT-2 can produce a very bright output due to its reflector and heat sink design.
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In your example above, would 2x123A (7.4V) make any improvement to output? Thanks.
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I have a friend staying in Singapore and he will be coming back by Mid of September. If anyone's interested, i will have him check how much it is selling (eneloopies) in Singapore and update you guys. Hopefully it will be cheaper since Malaysia have a 23% tax on batteries... sad.gif
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QUOTE(susuman @ Sep 3 2009, 01:28 PM)
Hi pseudoblue,

I think 4sevens published current is correct, as polkiuj said, 4sevens published the LED current not the battery.
Here my measurement on battery current draw:
My 123^2 draw 450mA on Turbo on 8.43V, which is 0.45x8.43= 3.79Watts, minus the heat and efficiency loss, it will get around 3W LED output

And the LED max according to 4sevens is 990mA, which make sense, as LED usually required around 3V to drive, so 3 x 0.99 = 2.97W, almost 3W output.

So i guess when you use Li-on, it will drive the AA to 3W which is almost max of the R2, while Fenix usually is around 3W also. (In fact my PD30 draw the same amount 450mA too, thats why I guessing the Quark not only same designer, but produced by same factory? brows.gif )

That is why you get same brightness.

That is why also the AA cannot drive to max brightness (only 90lm) because it will need more than 2000mA (maybe 2500mA) at 1.5V to drive the LED in 3W, which the battery may be too hot and die.

just 1 sen.
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Hey its good to hear from you susuman! Yea, I knew 7777 specs was current to the LED, i may have word out as current draw instead, sorry for misunderstanding. But it's confirm that with LiIon on the QAA, it's definitely drawing more than 350ma to the LED at turbo. 7777 specifications might be with NiMH, since brightness is confirmed to be different with LiIon. I will do a current draw test on my QAA with LiIon, NiMH and Alkaline tonight. With the buck and boost circuit, it's more accurate to "guess" how much is going to the LED. Unlike boost only circuit, current draw measurement will be alot higher and can't tell how much is going to the LED.

Note that XPE can take up to 700ma. Quark just max it to 450 because of thermal design of the head.


QUOTE(jwyj @ Sep 3 2009, 01:57 PM)
Has this anything to do with buck only circuit vs buck-boost circuit? So, we can replace AA with 14500 for all flashlight with buck boost circuit to get extra brightness, throw etc....  rclxms.gif
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No, you cannot replace any buck boost circuit flashlight with 14500 unless the manufacturer says so. Like 7777 says it can take 0.9-4.2. The buck and boost electronic circuit for the Quark can handle voltage up to 4.2. Some flashlight specification with buck boost circuit might not necessary take 4.2 LiIon batteries.


Added on September 3, 2009, 3:00 pmOk, check this thread out if you like about Quarks, I find that Part 2 has more answers for my questions about Quark lights. There are alot more discussion but its good to hear from 7777 themselves.

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QUOTE(jwyj @ Sep 3 2009, 02:37 PM)
In your example above, would 2x123A (7.4V) make any improvement to output? Thanks.
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Hi jwyj,

In this case (the Jetbeam RRT-2) , 2xRCR123 will not improve the output anymore, since the single 3.7V 18650 already enough to drive the LED (which required around 3V), so extra higher voltage will not help. (in fact the circuit wasting energy to buck the extra voltage to provide constant current)

In contrast, a 2xRCR123 will reduce the runtime, as a 18650 can easily be a 2000mAH, while a RCR123 will only have 600-800mAH (Total up a serial batteries still get the same mAH), even a 2xCR123 only have the capacity of 1000mA+.

The technical spec of the Jetbeam further confirm this:
High Mode
Using 2*CR123 batteries: 240 Lumens, 2 Hours
Using 2*16340 batteries: 240 Lumens, 1 Hour
Using 1*18650 battery: 240 Lumens, 3 Hours

the single 18650 wins in the run time, while provide same level of output.

But in a single CR123A flashlight, a 3.7V li-ion battery (RCR123) will always boost the output, light become very bright. Like the Fenix P2D, you will loose all the low mode. rclxub.gif , so you will have to buy the 3V RCR123 (lifePo4).

But I have an Ultrafire WF-602C, which gives a very outstanding output when using the RCR123 3.7 instead of the 3V CR123A, it is as bright as the Fenix P3D, but it will get hot in minutes.

PS: In one of my test, I burnt my Fenix P3D when in turbo (burnt mark in the LED), while the cheapo Ultrafire WF-602C survived. rclxub.gif doh.gif

PPS : After some intense rescue, the Fenix P3D revived after 2 days in ICU. sweat.gif sweat.gif icon_rolleyes.gif Only now it is abit yellowish in the beam, everything else is ok. So it is good night light now.
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What susu trying to say also is that I think there's no difference in lumen output between the two battery type. The driver is quite different from the Quark AA behavior. Just more runtime with 18650.

The 18650 tested must be either 2400-2600mAH.

*Oh btw, is your P3D still under warranty? can try and get it replaced brows.gif

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QUOTE(pseudoblue @ Sep 3 2009, 04:58 PM)
What susu trying to say also is that I think there's no difference in lumen output between the two battery type. The driver is quite different from the Quark AA behavior. Just more runtime with 18650.

The 18650 tested must be either 2400-2600mAH.

*Oh btw, is your P3D still under warranty? can try and get it replaced brows.gif
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The P3D i bought it from Hong Kong, so I guess I don't want to send it back, it is over 1 year anyway. Actually kinda like the yellowish tint, at least no 1 has it, still very bright actually, it is cool. flex.gif

Anyway, thanks for the clarification, yes, for the Jetbeam RRT2, it has a best run time on the 18650, other configuration (eg 2xCR123) does not increase the lumens output.

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Ah okay, for your future Fenix needs, there's a local dealer Gadgetworld2U in Subang Square. I get my lights from there and they will cover warranties purchased from them.
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QUOTE(pseudoblue @ Sep 3 2009, 05:31 PM)
Ah okay, for your future Fenix needs, there's a local dealer Gadgetworld2U in Subang Square. I get my lights from there and they will cover warranties purchased from them.
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Thanks dude. Have a nice day, ooo, it is getting dark now, it is time to take out the flashlights. rclxms.gif (use the Quark AA^2 to drive home brows.gif joking)


Added on September 3, 2009, 6:01 pmHey guys, just want to ask, you guys lube your O-ring?
I am using a transparent silicon lube, bought from a scuba dive equipment shop. I really had a hard time to find this lube.

Q:What you guys use and when you get it from?

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I'm using CRC Dielectric Grease , meant for o-rings and prevents corrosion. Bought from local Ace, hard to find already. I also use it on the threads. What I like about this is that it has a firm and smooth feel when twisting.

You got any details for your lube u bought? If its for diving equipment, then it must be very good already. Since it has direct contact with salt water.

*Oh btw, I'm using 3-IN-ONE Contact Cleaner to clean my flashlight threads and o-rings. It is safe on electronics and non-conductive, it dissolves grease, oil and dirt. Works well.

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wow...now only did i realized this flashaholic thread in lyn thumbup.gif

took me around 1 whole day to finish up browse thru the v1 & v2 sweat.gif

so many member here with those fascinating flashlight.....

me, newbie to flashlight and just started to collect it 3 weeks back....

recent / current flashlight i owned; mostly EDC

1. Fenix LD01 Stainless Steel [ AAA ]
2. Nitecore D10 R2 [ AA ]
3. UltraFire WF-606A Cree Q5 [ 2AA/CR2 ]
4. UltraFire A10 Cree Q5 [ AA ]
5. some other cheapo one....

my upcoming flashlight [ waiting for the shipment to arrived biggrin.gif ] :

1. cheapo Ultrafire C3 Stainless Steel Cree Q5 from DX [ AA ]
2. cheapo MTE SSC P7 C-Bin from DX [ 18650 ]
3. iTP Light A3 EOS Stainless Steel [ AAA ]
4. ThruNite TiKey Titanium Keychain LED [ AG13 ]
5. VersaTi ET10 Titanium [ AAA ]
6. Quark AA Titanium Tactical [ AA ]
7. Lummi Wee Ns [ 10180 ]
8. Lummi Raw Ns [ 14250 ]

Question : where can we get those glow in the dark tritium locally here?

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Tritium as in vials alone i'm nto too sure, but gadgetworld2u here sells tritium keychains.
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Hi old newspaper, Welcome! biggrin.gif

Nice collection, yeah Gadgetworld2u might have those glow in the dark you looking for. They also carry various quality brands of flashlights like Fenix, Tiablo, Olight.

I see you are waiting for a Quark. We have a new local Quark dealer too smile.gif Should see Polkiuj in LYN.
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my greasy family rclxs0.gif
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and some that i'm too lazy to try... sweat.gif
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Wow rookiedaddy,

For all these lubricant you forgot about KY jelly...hee..hee..after all you are still a rookie right? tongue.gif

Just joking there...sorry..

for me i only have Nano Oil weight 10 & 85 plus few Nyogel..thingking of getting krytox50/50..
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Weiii rookiedaddy, flashlight collector now grease collector also? nuts rclxub.gif Which one you are using now for your flashlights?

I read krytox 50/50 is most recommended by CPF'ers, can't find the post yet. You got any link reference? Would like to read the technical part of the 50 50.

The one I'm using now seems sufficient already smile.gif

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krytox 50/50
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just saw some pic of 4Sevens Titanium Quarks drool.gif

http://www.cpfmarketplace.com/mp/showthrea...=198575&page=15
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Notice the one on the far right just behind the 123*2? that i think will be the new quark AAA..hopefully..
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Hey! I used to used bearing grease for treads and rubber grease for O-rings.

Now I just use nano-oil cos it's easier and does the job! =D



Man those Quark Ti's are evil!! Nooooooo!!

I want one yesterday!!!!
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har, was that intentional or what.. David from 47 seems to be giving more info of it soon, thread here

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QUOTE(Nightstalker1993 @ Sep 3 2009, 08:18 PM)
Tritium as in vials alone i'm nto too sure, but gadgetworld2u here sells tritium keychains.
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yeah, i meant those vials alone...not so keen on those tritium keychain tho..

QUOTE(pseudoblue @ Sep 3 2009, 09:19 PM)
Hi old newspaper, Welcome! biggrin.gif

Nice collection, yeah Gadgetworld2u might have those glow in the dark you looking for. They also carry various quality brands of flashlights like Fenix, Tiablo, Olight.

I see you are waiting for a Quark. We have a new local Quark dealer too smile.gif Should see Polkiuj in LYN.
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thanks for the warm welcome icon_rolleyes.gif

actually i need only the tritium vials....they look pretty cool on the flashlight [ and of course useful too...just like those Lummi Raw / Wee ]. thought of buying it from the CPF forumer but the waiting shipping period is killing me.....

yeah, i bought my Fenix Stainless Steel LD01 and Nitecore D10 R2 from gadgetworld2u....saw the tritium keychain but not very keen on those...

QUOTE(pseudoblue @ Sep 3 2009, 11:24 PM)
Weiii rookiedaddy, flashlight collector now grease collector also? nuts rclxub.gif Which one you are using now for your flashlights?

I read krytox 50/50 is most recommended by CPF'ers, can't find the post yet. You got any link reference? Would like to read the technical part of the 50 50.

The one I'm using now seems sufficient already smile.gif
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here's some negative comment on krytox.... http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/showthread.php?p=2214478

all my flashlights are still spanking new and never lube before....looking for a lube now biggrin.gif

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You guys have very different lube, all I got is the clear/transparent silicone lube, it was use to apply for the scuba diving equipment. I use it because it was recommend to use silicone base lube by the flashlight manual. Don't know it is good or not, but it was, and no odor/smell , and easy to wash off (on your hand).

old newspaper, actually it is just an activities for us to play with the flashlight when we lube it. Basically it just prolong the life of the O-ring, nothing more I think, so it will be seal and water proof. But you can always get some replacement O-ring as spare parts. tongue.gif

polkiuj: Using grease in the tread is good idea also hor, what are you use for the job? what brand and where you buy it? I really like the feel of a smooth tread when twisty it, like the EagleTac you have (and the Aurora P7 of mine).

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QUOTE(icaruz76 @ Sep 3 2009, 11:05 PM)
For all these lubricant you forgot about KY jelly...hee..hee..after all you are still a rookie right? tongue.gif
hahaha... cheers.gif
psssst... there r kids in this forum... sweat.gif

QUOTE(pseudoblue @ Sep 3 2009, 11:24 PM)
Which one you are using now for your flashlights?
O-rings - Danco, Aquaseal, EagleTac
Threads - Permatex Dielectric, Danco, QPlus QP101, DuPont Teflon, Vaseline
sometimes too lazy and use the same on o-rings and threads.
The Vaseline works particularly well for twisty lights, I use it on Olight T-series and the twisting action is very smooth and easier for my daughter to use (also safe for kids). thumbup.gif
DuPoint Teflon is the cleanest among all, it's dry wax and has the least amount of grinding deposits. Like the smell too. brows.gif still looking for squeeze tube as this aerosol-type can be messy if not careful.
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Thanks both of u for the links regarding krytox.

Here's the current draw measurements I did late last night for the Quark AA Tactical... pewpew!

High 70 lumens, current to LED = 250ma (4sevens spec):
Ikea (1500mah) @ 1.482v --- 1.26A
Powerex Imedion (2100mah) @ 1.280v --- 1.26A
AW14500 (750mah) @ 3.87v --- 250ma

Turbo 90 lumens, current to LED = 350ma (4sevens spec):
Ikea @ 1.482v --- 1.27A
Powerex Imedion @ 1.280v --- 1.26A
AW14500 @ 3.87v --- 950ma

Medium 18 lumens, current to LED = 50ma (4sevens spec), sorry I only measured this with 14500:
AW14500 @ 3.87v --- 30ma
**Measurements on Alkaline and NiMH should have higher current draw because of lower voltage hence boost circuit

I assume the buck and boost drivers appears to be intelligent. Driving the boosted power it wants and bucking appropriately for regulation. Noticed how it wants the same current at high and turbo modes for AA batts. I should measure on the other low, low modes. David from 4sevens explains his technology:
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Btw, I'm sure with 14500 current to the LED is more, like equivalent brightness to CR123^2 unsure.gif 700ma? just assumptions.


Just for comparison, boost only circuit measurements for Fenix LD10 I did earlier. I did for all modes except turbo, and HKJ from CPF did his own with NiMH.

Energizer Lithium Photo @ 1.70v:
Low, med, high --- 90ma, 360ma, 2.3A

Eneloop:
Low, med, high, turbo --- 90ma, 540ma, 1320ma, 2100ma.

Noticed how buck and boost circuit handle High and Turbo in comparison with boost only circuit. It will "squeeze" out current to drive the LED at constant rate until voltage drops low enough to sustain and the light starts to dim. Cheaper method but it works.

***corrected my statement***
Also, an interesting note about Lithium primaries behavior for handling high voltage draw. Have not done more research, yet.

David claims, Quark lights have protection at 0.9v to protect NiMH. But not for LiIon.
Info here if you don't want to load from CPF:
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Enjoy your Quarks! cool.gif

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Titanium Quarks picture updates!

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David is a real sneaky bugger... notice those colorful little lights up there? It has to be non other the Quark AAA!!! drool.gif nod.gif

Thread has been updated here at CPFMarketplace, and more pics!
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ahh, no clips for the single AA and cr123 versions ?? sad.gif
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QUOTE(nexro @ Sep 4 2009, 09:13 PM)
ahh, no clips for the single AA and cr123 versions ?? sad.gif
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You can request clips. Have to mention whether you want or not when doing pre-order. But.... no more stock! 4sevens.ca are taking pre-orders still if you're desperate.. it's a long wait. Polkiuj also no more stock and he said he should have ordered more laugh.gif

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can't wait for my quark!!!
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QUOTE(pseudoblue @ Sep 4 2009, 10:35 PM)
You can request clips. Have to mention whether you want or not when doing pre-order. But.... no more stock! 4sevens.ca are taking pre-orders still if you're desperate.. it's a long wait. Polkiuj also no more stock and he said he should have ordered more  laugh.gif
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deng! i must have missed that part... guess i'll just wait till next time, but i don't find the clip useful anyway other than to prevent the light from rolling off the table laugh.gif
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I guess it really depends on the individual.
I'm guessing a lot of guys would want to clip it to their pants of shirt pocket to keep it from moving around and make life uncomfortable. tongue.gif
I chose the clip because I don't have any light with a clip. And u get that extra bit of titanium lol.
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I chose quark coz of the clip laugh.gif When I was using the LD10, always wished it had a clip, it's easier to carry around with it.

But then, also for the knurling, li-ion, buck-boost, xpe, programmable, forward-clicky..... drool.gif
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QUOTE(strinq @ Sep 5 2009, 11:40 PM)
I guess it really depends on the individual.
I'm guessing a lot of guys would want to clip it to their pants of shirt pocket to keep it from moving around and make life uncomfortable. tongue.gif
I chose the clip because I don't have any light with a clip. And u get that extra bit of titanium lol.
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I think the clip is made of chromed/polished stainless steel. I did request Ti clip from david 47s but according to him its not cost effective..he will have to increase the price of the Quark..
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QUOTE(icaruz76 @ Sep 6 2009, 05:05 AM)
I think the clip is made of chromed/polished stainless steel. I did request Ti clip from david 47s but according to him its not cost effective..he will have to increase the price of the Quark..
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But the 123 has the clip as a part of the body, not an attachment. So i am guessing it should be Ti.
Unless he somehow melded the Ti and SS together and that would actually suck... blink.gif

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"need a light?"

Got a cool shot of optimus with some of his new "cannons" brows.gif

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QUOTE(pseudoblue @ Sep 6 2009, 02:39 PM)
"need a light?"

Got a cool shot of optimus with some of his new "cannons" brows.gif

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wah, that shot got copyright samore laugh.gif

sharonlili photography eh?

anyway, nice shot. haha.
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QUOTE(Nightstalker1993 @ Sep 6 2009, 02:49 PM)
wah, that shot got copyright samore laugh.gif

sharonlili photography eh?

anyway, nice shot. haha.
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lol, how did you manage to see the copyright? pic was taken and edited by me, but not my camera equipment wink.gif


Added on September 6, 2009, 3:14 pmah, i know how to check di biggrin.gif

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the new fenix LD10 and LD20 also have a clip now

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Did they say anything about sending the clip to previous owner of LD10 & LD20? Jst trying my luck... smile.gif
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QUOTE(damonlbs @ Sep 6 2009, 11:47 PM)
the new fenix LD10 and LD20 also have a clip now

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Hi Damonlbs, too bad the LD10 does not support the 14500 Lithium well ( will lose the low mode like P2D) or else it is a good choice.

Btw, I notice the Quark HA-III finishing is quite easily chip off. I had 2 drop test (haha aka accidentally drop), my 123^2 got several chip. 3 Very large in near the lens, 1 at the tail cry.gif . Not sure is only mine or what. the 1st drop test (erhmm) was very light/gentle, but still got a chip in the side of the body. My fenix survive these kind of test without a scratch, but not this 123^2. hmm.gif

Anyway, it is a very good light, the light still work perfectly, i love the warm tint, and the moon-mood suit be perfectly at night.
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Regarding the new LD series CLIP.

Here some info from 4sevens:
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So, no info on existing owners of LD series about the clip and we won't be getting any for free. I'm very dissapointed with their marketing strategy on this. They should protect investments of LD series owners by having the new body+clip compatible with the current LD series. So current owners can purchase the upgrade with a lower price, instead of forcing to buy a whole new flashlight, with the same LED technology, same circuit, same specs. You are paying the same price for another LD10/20 you owned for knurling and clip - That's it. I may also think they might make more sale for selling upgrades to protect customer's investment than just selling a whole new flashlight. But of course it will interest new buyers.

I don't doubt their quality though. I have Fenix flashlights but this idea is kinda ridiculous man...


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QUOTE(susuman @ Sep 7 2009, 09:53 AM)
Hi Damonlbs, too bad the LD10 does not support the 14500 Lithium well ( will lose the low mode like P2D) or else it is a good choice.

Btw, I notice the Quark HA-III finishing is quite easily chip off. I had 2 drop test (haha aka accidentally drop), my 123^2 got several chip. 3 Very large in near the lens, 1 at the tail  cry.gif . Not sure is only mine or what.  the 1st drop test (erhmm) was very light/gentle, but still got a chip in the side of the body.  My fenix survive these kind of test without a scratch,  but not this 123^2.  hmm.gif

Anyway, it is a very good light, the light still work perfectly, i love the warm tint, and the moon-mood suit be perfectly at night.
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My QAA so far still perfect, table drop only and been my EDC since. But will expect some chips, sure to kena one. You might have dropped it with a little force? on rough "terrain"?

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QUOTE(pseudoblue @ Sep 7 2009, 11:58 AM)


So, no info on existing owners of LD series about the clip and we won't be getting any for free. I'm very dissapointed with their marketing strategy on this. They should protect investments of LD series owners by having the new body+clip compatible with the current LD series. So current owners can purchase the upgrade with a lower price, instead of forcing to buy a whole new flashlight, with the same LED technology, same circuit, same specs. You are paying the same price for another LD10/20 you owned for knurling and clip - That's it. I may also think they might make more sale for selling upgrades to protect customer's investment than just selling a whole new flashlight. But of course it will interest new buyers.

I don't doubt their quality though. I have Fenix flashlights but this idea is kinda ridiculous man...
I am with you on this bro..i would love to have that clip on my LD20.... sadly..
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Hi Bro pseudoblue,

both drop test (hahaha) was landed on ceramic tile, so it is smooth and flat. 1st time was about 3' and the 2nd one is 5'. I will should you when we have chance to go McD in Summit like the other day.

BTW, I loved the photo you post the Optimus with the Fenixies, great photo and creative one! drool.gif rclxms.gif Bravo!
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hey thanks! glad u loved it biggrin.gif

5 foot drop was wow, high.. and no internal damage, battery surrounding ok too? Haha, i have to say thanks to you for doing these "tests" laugh.gif So we'll know how good these lights are, despite of the chipped anodized part, the rest remains protected. Yea we can meet there again, and with a bigger group? brows.gif

i havent been to the KD Trail whistling.gif
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i can't wait the M2XC4 reaching on my doorstep this morning (i hope so... brows.gif) rclxm9.gif
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QUOTE(pseudoblue @ Sep 7 2009, 07:27 PM)
hey thanks! glad u loved it biggrin.gif

5 foot drop was wow, high.. and no internal damage, battery surrounding ok too? Haha, i have to say thanks to you for doing these "tests" laugh.gif So we'll know how good these lights are, despite of the chipped anodized part, the rest remains protected. Yea we can meet there again, and with a bigger group? brows.gif

i havent been to the KD Trail whistling.gif
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where's this KD trail ? count me in if there's any gathering ya..... biggrin.gif there's still a lot to learn from the sifu here....

QUOTE(sniper69 @ Sep 8 2009, 07:17 AM)
i can't wait the M2XC4 reaching on my doorstep this morning (i hope so... brows.gif) rclxm9.gif
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wow, that's a little monster light you have drool.gif .... why choose this over the newer M2C4?

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Oh my gosh! The Ti's look so good! I actually thought they would be ugly! Noooooo!! I want more lights!! Stupid demands from too many people!! Noooooo!! Even the collector's set is gone... =(

@nexro: they will be clips for AA versions, don't worry. It's just like a regular Quark. If you look closer, you'll see the band thing for attaching the clip. Only the 123 will be fixed with or without clip. =)

@strinq: the clips will be SS, not Ti. But I'm not sure about the 123 since the clip is attached to the head, it might actually be Ti!!!! O.o!! Woot woot!!

@susuman: Wow! You did drop tests too! Hehe. My own experience is that the Quarks chips much harder but scratches much easier. It seems that the anodizing is much thinner on the Quarks. My Fenix chips much worse but the coating seems tougher.

@old newspaper:KD trail is in... KD. xD Sorry.. Hehe! Pseudobleu likes AA batteries perhaps? It is much safer than the alternative Li-ion. Maybe IMR cells would be as safe? But less capacity.


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I think it should be Ti unless they found some way to 'weld' ss and Ti together which is not nice haha.
If the whole head is SS then a bit geram lah tongue.gif.
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QUOTE(old newspaper @ Sep 8 2009, 09:21 AM)
wow, that's a little monster light you have  drool.gif .... why choose this over the newer M2C4?
owh... that's because i wanted the warm tint... brows.gif
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QUOTE(sniper69 @ Sep 8 2009, 11:45 AM)
owh... that's because i wanted the warm tint... brows.gif
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btw, where you order it?
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QUOTE(susuman @ Sep 8 2009, 12:24 PM)
Enjoy the flashlight, really envy!

btw, where you order it?
Philightsophy man... where other seller sells EagleTac if would not be him doh.gif laugh.gif

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ur gonna have fun with it.
it throws 300m quite clearly.
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QUOTE(strinq @ Sep 8 2009, 01:21 PM)
ur gonna have fun with it.
it throws 300m quite clearly.
later will test 1 on 1 with Tiablo A10-G doh.gif laugh.gif, gonna fight with my dad's light tongue.gif
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later will test 1 on 1 with Tiablo A10-G doh.gif laugh.gif, gonna fight with my dad's light tongue.gif
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rclxms.gif Do let us know how it goes with the comparison. I can't wait to get mine, hopefully by end of the month then I'll put it up against the TK40 and M6.

Have fun!
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Guys, there's something in my mind long time ago.
I notice everyone here have a huge collection of flashlight but how often do we use it ???

I would suggest, since we all have so hugh of collection, we should go camping once a month or twice a month so that we can fully utilise our flashlight tongue.gif

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QUOTE(Lazyboy @ Sep 8 2009, 02:04 PM)
rclxms.gif Do let us know how it goes with the comparison.  I can't wait to get mine, hopefully by end of the month then I'll put it up against the TK40 and M6.
Have fun!
M6...? where'd you get that... oh my, later my gf gonna kill me if heard i wanted to get another flashlight mellow.gif

QUOTE(jmaguire @ Sep 8 2009, 02:13 PM)
Guys, there's something in my mind long time ago.
I notice everyone here have a huge collection of flashlight but how often do we use it ???

I would suggest, since we all have so hugh of collection, we should go camping once a month or twice a month so that we can fully utilise our flashlight tongue.gif
once a month? twice a month? /me here EDC woo... ahahahahha...

thinking going to EDC this M2XC4 doh.gif laugh.gif too...
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Nah, the A10 still beats it.
They did comparisons during their mamak gathering the last time.
Not to use that often, we men just like hard solid stuff that has electronics in it.
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ok... that's it! time to start nagging Philightsophy and EagleTac for the M2SC4 neutral cheers.gif drool.gif

hope they put some form of retaining mechanism just before the strobe for these. hmm.gif

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QUOTE(strinq @ Sep 8 2009, 03:03 PM)
Nah, the A10 still beats it.
They did comparisons during their mamak gathering the last time.
i think, thanks to tighter spot on A10... blush.gif
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M2XC4 wow! thumbup.gif congrats, and im sure the wait was worth it! You took pic and upload it so fast huh..

If we go for camping, we'll bring lesser lights to compensate luggage and food weight, more practical I guess, but it'll be fun too. But if we have a gathering, these guys can bring the whole car full of lights!! sweat.gif laugh.gif





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I just got my surefire E2E this morning. I got AW batteries standing by. Firstly, the tube is too small for the AW 17670 so I put in 2 x AWRCR123. The bulb lights up for a second, then no more no matter how I twist or turn. Later I took out the 2 x RCR123, shave off a bit of the bottom 17670 and put it in also cannot light up.
Looks like the bulb is blown. sad.gif Is there any cree drop-off for this size. The diameter of the reflector is smaller than the surefire 6P.
I'm so dissappointed. Maybe I should just sell the body off.

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ok, i got both Tiablo A10-G and EagleTac M2XC4 Neutral White, both with fresh fully-charged batteries, it's 18650... frankly speaking, i don't really know how to snap pictar (i don't even have a good camera too... tongue.gif), anyway... base on my newbie observation, both have their own characteristic...

the A10-G is great for hunting, tight spot with solid beam whilst the M2XC4 i like it because of this flood and super thrower (not really can beat the A10-G on throw site).
A10-G is lighter, way lighter than the M2XC4, guess it's perfect for hantam orang... ahahahaha

it's ok... A10-G goes to my dad and this M2XC4 i keep it as my EDC whistling.gif ph34r.gif
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I got the SF M6 locally from dealer. The 500 lms high output is a monster! Cut through the night like a light saber! My TK40 at max did not throw as far but close.
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QUOTE(jwyj @ Sep 9 2009, 09:05 AM)
I just got my surefire E2E this morning. I got AW batteries standing by. Firstly, the tube is too small for the AW 17670 so I put in 2 x AWRCR123. The bulb lights up for a second, then no more no matter how I twist or turn. Later I took out the 2 x RCR123, shave off a bit of the bottom 17670 and put it in also cannot light up.
Looks like the bulb is blown.  sad.gif  Is there any cree drop-off for this size. The diameter of the reflector is smaller than the surefire 6P.
I'm so dissappointed. Maybe I should just sell the body off.
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bro, surefires cannot use rechargeables.
Only primary cells.
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QUOTE(jwyj @ Sep 9 2009, 09:05 AM)
I just got my surefire E2E this morning. I got AW batteries standing by. Firstly, the tube is too small for the AW 17670 so I put in 2 x AWRCR123. The bulb lights up for a second, then no more no matter how I twist or turn. Later I took out the 2 x RCR123, shave off a bit of the bottom 17670 and put it in also cannot light up.
Looks like the bulb is blown.  sad.gif  Is there any cree drop-off for this size. The diameter of the reflector is smaller than the surefire 6P.
I'm so dissappointed. Maybe I should just sell the body off.
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I don't own any surefires, but reviews I came across for E2E was sweet, don't sell it! It looks like you hit a dud... it's unatural for a Xenon bulb to have *POOF* so fast. Did you check the bulb closely if the filamen was snapped or there's a black spot? You could check the bulb assembly. Rookiedaddy is a fan of surefire i guess biggrin.gif, he may help you with some mods or replacement.


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bro, surefires cannot use rechargeables.
Only primary cells.
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oh wow ok, looks like the guys in CPF talks about using rechargeables are all modded.. blink.gif

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Yep, the bulb is definitely out. I think the filament is broken. The other 2 6p, straight away I put in a 5Q drop-off from ultrafire501B. I will probably get 2 brighter R2 bin soon.

None of my other bits and pieces can fit the e2e body. Two photos to share plus another of some of the lights I currently own.




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But again, do check it properly because i am very sure surefires cannot use rechargeables.
That's why some people are not happy with that 'issue'.
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Another few shots of my collection just for fun.
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nice collection
turning green with envy...
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QUOTE(pseudoblue @ Sep 9 2009, 12:09 PM)
I don't own any surefires, but reviews I came across for E2E was sweet, don't sell it! It looks like you hit a dud... it's unatural for a Xenon bulb to have *POOF* so fast. Did you check the bulb closely if the filamen was snapped or there's a black spot? You could check the bulb assembly. Rookiedaddy is a fan of surefire i guess biggrin.gif, he may help you with some mods or replacement.


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oh wow ok, looks like the guys in CPF talks about using rechargeables are all modded..  blink.gif
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holy smokes! (not that any smoke is holy but holy smokes!) nice collection man! Is that a Lumapower MVP SSC P7? and the DEFT?
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QUOTE(jwyj @ Sep 9 2009, 09:05 AM)
I just got my surefire E2E this morning. I got AW batteries standing by. Firstly, the tube is too small for the AW 17670 so I put in 2 x AWRCR123. The bulb lights up for a second, then no more no matter how I twist or turn. Later I took out the 2 x RCR123, shave off a bit of the bottom 17670 and put it in also cannot light up.
Looks like the bulb is blown.  sad.gif  Is there any cree drop-off for this size. The diameter of the reflector is smaller than the surefire 6P.
I'm so dissappointed. Maybe I should just sell the body off.
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2 x RCR123 = 2 x 3.6V, so the bulb went poof.

There's not many LED drop-ins for E-series. I put Koala's F1 MicroTower with Rebel LED on mine.

You could look for KL4/E1B/E2DL head if you want to use LED instead of incand.

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I agree with the poster above. You probably fried your bulb. But it's ok, an excuse for an upgrade. smile.gif
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QUOTE(pseudoblue @ Sep 9 2009, 12:09 PM)
Rookiedaddy is a fan of surefire i guess biggrin.gif, he may help you with some mods or replacement.
hahaha... me no fan of surefire la... me fan of Star Trek TNG... rclxm9.gif

QUOTE(jwyj @ Sep 9 2009, 12:54 PM)
Yep, the bulb is definitely out. I think the filament is broken.
Like you... I'm waiting for LumensFactory stuffs from Philightsophy too... drool.gif now... those IMR bulb sure looks attractive... hahaha... but the heat warning worries me, so I'm playing safe and get the EO and HO bulbs.
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QUOTE(RookieDaddy @ Sep 9 2009, 04:51 PM)
Like you... I'm waiting for LumensFactory stuffs from Philightsophy too...  drool.gif now... those IMR bulb sure looks attractive... hahaha... but the heat warning worries me, so I'm playing safe and get the EO and HO bulbs.
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Ya..luckily he got pm contact with me so I also buy from Philightsophy, but not EO, might as well get the brightest, the IMR-E2. Not forgetting also some hard to find AW IMR123, 550mAh LiMN. brows.gif 350 Lumens from E2E. rclxms.gif
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jwyj, I'm also getting the SR for daily use, good enough lumens with longer runtime. Are you getting the LF Seraph? Looks like pretty good host for lego. I'm going for the SP-9.

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QUOTE(jwyj @ Sep 9 2009, 02:07 PM)
Another few shots of my collection just for fun.
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I heard with the A9 collimator on, it cannot stand face down. but in your pic it look ok. ohmy.gif
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QUOTE(Chieftat @ Sep 9 2009, 07:15 PM)
I heard with the A9 collimator on, it cannot stand face down. but in your pic it look ok.
that should be the new collimator head with the aspherical lens recess just enough to head stand, the old one is slightly protruded out. Must have been too many complaints... hahaha sweat.gif

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QUOTE(RookieDaddy @ Sep 9 2009, 09:25 PM)
that should be the new collimator head with the aspherical lens recess just enough to head stand, the old one is slightly protruded out. Must have been too many complaints... hahaha  sweat.gif
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Oh yes, this one can stand with some space. Bought it from forumer justin78. rclxms.gif Iching to get the Dereelight collimator too but more expensive. nod.gif


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holy smokes! (not that any smoke is holy but holy smokes!) nice collection man! Is that a Lumapower MVP SSC P7? and the DEFT?
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Which one? No no, no Lumapower or DEFT here. (But I'm interested if can get)

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Which one? No no, no Lumapower or DEFT here. (But I'm interested if can get)
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Yea, mistaken biggrin.gif blush.gif

Btw, some cool gathering pics all the way from toronto smile.gif David from 4sevens is in there too. The last gathering you guys had all take group photos of flashlight, but no human group photo sweat.gif

Hey Rookiedaddy, just read some info about LF Seraph (didn't know what was it biggrin.gif) but can't see pics right now sad.gif You're getting this mod for your surefire?

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Seraph will comes as a complete flashlight, either LED or Xenon. I'm going for Xenon and the parts are interchangeable with Surefire's. I'm gonna use it as a host for D26 (P60-type) drop-in. The advantage is it supports 18xxx size rechargeable and comes complete with 2 switches -- clicky and twisty. I believe Philightsophy will bring in a few configurations. thumbup.gif

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Interesting, same info here from Lumensfactory?. Technically, why choose a Xenon? Or you're just an incan fan? wink.gif
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Hi and greeting to all my fellow lowyat.net forumers! I usually troll around the wii and xbox sections, didn't know that there is a Torchlight collectors post in lowyat.net too. Hehe.. I recently just bought another torchlight from Pelican. This time a Trekker light so I can go hiking in FRIM this weekend with my wife. smile.gif It's black colour. My other ones are a Nemo and a Sabrelight which I use for Diving. No problems with either (so far), except that the Sabrelight was flooded during one of my dive trips. smile.gif But I got it replaced by one of the Pelican distributors here in Malaysia and they were nice enough to inform me that the Sabrelight is not meant for diving (bought mine from hobby sports but they were kind enough to help me get replacement parts even though I didn't buy the Sabrelight from them). thumbup.gif

I think they are located in Jalan Klang Lama. They web address is http://www.peli.com.my. I can't remember the phone number of their showroom from the top of my head but I think it's on their website somewhere. I called them up and spoke to a girl name Angeline. She was really friendly. She said will help with the replacement of parts even though I didn't buy it from them. I felt bad so last Tuesday, I went back over there and bought a Trekker light and a 1500EMS case to keep my Ipod, PSP and handphone dry while I dive from them. smile.gif Great customer service. Highly recommended! thumbup.gif thumbup.gif thumbup.gif

Btw, what do you guys think of the Surefire lights? Is it any good? What is the price range I'm looking at? Is it more expensive than Pelican lights? I saw some at the Curve the other day...

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QUOTE(pseudoblue @ Sep 10 2009, 01:05 PM)
Interesting, same info here from Lumensfactory?. Technically, why choose a Xenon? Or you're just an incan fan? wink.gif
yup... that's it! biggrin.gif
why incan... hmm.gif what can I say... I'm power hungry... hahaha flex.gif

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Btw, what do you guys think of the Surefire lights? Is it any good? What is the price range I'm looking at? Is it more expensive than Pelican lights? I saw some at the Curve the other
Hi Friedricetheman, thanks for your intro, info and welcome to the Bright Side! biggrin.gif

About surefire lights, I'll let the owners comment smile.gif But the price is a lot more than pelican lights. Slight cheaper than Surefire but of similar quality and popular are Fenix, Quark, Jetbeam, Eagletac, Olight, Tiablo and depending on which model you're looking at.

Are you looking for lights that are speficic for diving? I own Fenix lights and a Quark but I can't really say that they're good for diving. Even though manufacturer's spec is IPX-8 standard, I only trust these lights can be submerge in swimming pool 1-3m deep for limited time. But not so sure about higher preasure like diving. Perhaps someone here with that experience can tell us. Don't get me wrong but these lights I've mentioned are very good for their electronics, regulation, user interface, everday use and they can take unusual punishment. Just that diving category might be different.

How deep do you dive and how's your pelican nemo holding up? Can you tell us the model you're using?

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yay! just got back my replacement head from philightsophy ystd rclxm9.gif
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QUOTE(friedricetheman @ Sep 10 2009, 01:10 PM)
Hi and greeting to all my fellow lowyat.net forumers! I usually troll around the wii and xbox sections, didn't know that there is a Torchlight collectors post in lowyat.net too. Hehe.. I recently just bought another torchlight from Pelican. This time a Trekker light so I can go hiking in FRIM this weekend with my wife. smile.gif It's black colour. My other ones are a Nemo and a Sabrelight which I use for Diving. No problems with either (so far), except that the Sabrelight was flooded during one of my dive trips. smile.gif But I got it replaced by one of the Pelican distributors here in Malaysia and they were nice enough to inform me that the Sabrelight is not meant for diving (bought mine from hobby sports but they were kind enough to help me get replacement parts even though I didn't buy the Sabrelight from them).  thumbup.gif

I think they are located in Jalan Klang Lama. They web address is http://www.peli.com.my. I can't remember the phone number of their showroom from the top of my head but I think it's on their website somewhere. I called them up and spoke to a girl name Angeline. She was really friendly. She said will help with the replacement of parts even though I didn't buy it from them. I felt bad so last Tuesday, I went back over there and bought a Trekker light and a 1500EMS case to keep my Ipod, PSP and handphone dry while I dive from them. smile.gif Great customer service. Highly recommended!  thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif

Btw, what do you guys think of the Surefire lights? Is it any good? What is the price range I'm looking at? Is it more expensive than Pelican lights? I saw some at the Curve the other day...
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Here's my 2¢. I don't own any but played with some. Surefires are something you can trust. They have the most complete line of lights and accessories. Probably one of the best warranty. Some lights are truly awesome and out of this world. But the price also reflects the build and engineering that has gone into them. Also, they are somewhat less versatile.


QUOTE(pseudoblue @ Sep 10 2009, 03:13 PM)
Hi Friedricetheman, thanks for your intro, info and welcome to the Bright Side! biggrin.gif

About surefire lights, I'll let the owners comment smile.gif But the price is a lot more than pelican lights. Slight cheaper than Surefire but of similar quality and popular are Fenix, Quark, Jetbeam, Eagletac, Olight, Tiablo and depending on which model you're looking at.

Are you looking for lights that are speficic for diving? I own Fenix lights and a Quark but I can't really say that they're good for diving. Even though manufacturer's spec is IPX-8 standard, I only trust these lights can be submerge in swimming pool 1-3m deep for limited time. But not so sure about higher preasure like diving. Perhaps someone here with that experience can tell us. Don't get me wrong but these lights I've mentioned are very good for their electronics, regulation, user interface, everday use and they can take unusual punishment. Just that diving category might be different.

How deep do you dive and how's your pelican nemo holding up? Can you tell us the model you're using?
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Allow me to correct you.
Slight cheaper than Surefire but of similar quality and popular are Fenix, 4Sevens, Jetbeam, Eagletac, Olight, Tiablo and depending on which model you're looking at.


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yay! just got back my replacement head from philightsophy ystd rclxm9.gif
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QUOTE(polkiuj @ Sep 10 2009, 06:37 PM)
Here's my 2¢. I don't own any but played with some. Surefires are something you can trust. They have the most complete line of lights and accessories. Probably one of the best warranty. Some lights are truly awesome and out of this world. But the price also reflects the build and engineering that has gone into them. Also, they are somewhat less versatile.

You know, i kinda prefer the various UI that these brands (fenix, 4sevens, etc) offer over surefire icon_rolleyes.gif
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Allow me to correct you.
... 4Sevens...

Ah yes.. blush.gif

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QUOTE(Nightstalker1993 @ Sep 10 2009, 05:50 PM)
yay! just got back my replacement head from philightsophy ystd rclxm9.gif
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did u ask for the new warm white led for ur replacement P100A2 head whistling.gif

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Opps, here's the picture of the broken P100A2 head.
The broken area is where the thread is, the "neck" of the light.
The moral of the story is: If you are angry at a person, throw the light at him, not to the floor biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(friedricetheman @ Sep 10 2009, 01:10 PM)
Hi and greeting to all my fellow lowyat.net forumers! I usually troll around the wii and xbox sections, didn't know that there is a Torchlight collectors post in lowyat.net too. Hehe.. I recently just bought another torchlight from Pelican. This time a Trekker light so I can go hiking in FRIM this weekend with my wife. smile.gif It's black colour. My other ones are a Nemo and a Sabrelight which I use for Diving. No problems with either (so far), except that the Sabrelight was flooded during one of my dive trips. smile.gif But I got it replaced by one of the Pelican distributors here in Malaysia and they were nice enough to inform me that the Sabrelight is not meant for diving (bought mine from hobby sports but they were kind enough to help me get replacement parts even though I didn't buy the Sabrelight from them).  thumbup.gif

I think they are located in Jalan Klang Lama. They web address is http://www.peli.com.my. I can't remember the phone number of their showroom from the top of my head but I think it's on their website somewhere. I called them up and spoke to a girl name Angeline. She was really friendly. She said will help with the replacement of parts even though I didn't buy it from them. I felt bad so last Tuesday, I went back over there and bought a Trekker light and a 1500EMS case to keep my Ipod, PSP and handphone dry while I dive from them. smile.gif Great customer service. Highly recommended!  thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif

Btw, what do you guys think of the Surefire lights? Is it any good? What is the price range I'm looking at? Is it more expensive than Pelican lights? I saw some at the Curve the other day...
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I own multiple Surefires (8 of them and two more coming) and I would second what polkiuj states below. I also own 2 Fenix lights, 3 Jetbeams, 1 Olight and 1 Nitecore with a Tiablo coming as well. I never regret spending on Surefires. thumbup.gif

QUOTE(polkiuj @ Sep 10 2009, 06:37 PM)
Here's my 2¢. I don't own any but played with some. Surefires are something you can trust. They have the most complete line of lights and accessories. Probably one of the best warranty. Some lights are truly awesome and out of this world. But the price also reflects the build and engineering that has gone into them. Also, they are somewhat less versatile.
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But take note, surefires are also NOT dive lights.
Some of them have unfortunately consistent bad tailswitches that leak.
Can't recall the name of some divelights but i'm sure a quick google will net u quite a few that's made specifically to withstand deep dives.

The pain of waiting for the Ti quarks is killing me...

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QUOTE(strinq @ Sep 10 2009, 11:28 PM)
But take note, surefires are also NOT dive lights.
Some of them have unfortunately consistent bad tailswitches that leak.
Can't recall the name of some divelights but i'm sure a quick google will net u quite a few that's made specifically to withstand deep dives.

The pain of waiting for the Ti quarks is killing me...
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I'm also waiting for the Ti Quark, which would be my first light this year as I haven't been buying any new light lately. But < $100 for a Ti light is just irresistable.
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Found some discussions for Dive lights from CPF. Pelican, wolf-eyes mentioned and one guy recommending Intova dive lights with a Cree LED which he has been using for a year. Well if Friedricetheman still looking for dive lights unsure.gif


Added on September 11, 2009, 12:21 amHey btw, once all the Quark Ti arrives and distributed, want to have a Gathering?... Or earlier also can.

Would like to checkout some range of lights you guys have, and been playing around, modded and NEW ones. Would be cool to just chat and chill. I'm sure it'll benefit everyone and nothing's like real life BEAMSHOTS laugh.gif

I'm just suggesting and it'll would be awesome if a gathering like this can happen again. icon_idea.gif

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QUOTE(pseudoblue @ Sep 10 2009, 06:51 PM)
You know, i kinda prefer the various UI that these brands (fenix, 4sevens, etc) offer over surefire  icon_rolleyes.gif

Ah yes..  blush.gif
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Most Surefire light's UI are simple and bombproof. E.g 6P, L1, etc. If your life depends on it and you are in the middle of a do or die mission, you don't wanna cycle thru modes. Then again, most of us are just normal folks. =D


QUOTE(Philightsophy @ Sep 10 2009, 07:44 PM)
Opps, here's the picture of the broken P100A2 head.
The broken area is where the thread is, the "neck" of the light.
The moral of the story is: If you are angry at a person, throw the light at him, not to the floor  biggrin.gif

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I thought the moral is not to throw your light. xD


QUOTE(pseudoblue @ Sep 11 2009, 12:09 AM)
Found some discussions for Dive lights from CPF. Pelican, wolf-eyes mentioned and one guy recommending Intova dive lights with a Cree LED which he has been using for a year. Well if Friedricetheman still looking for dive lights  unsure.gif


Added on September 11, 2009, 12:21 amHey btw, once all the Quark Ti arrives and distributed, want to have a Gathering?... Or earlier also can.

Would like to checkout some range of lights you guys have, and been playing around, modded and NEW ones. Would be cool to just chat and chill. I'm sure it'll benefit everyone and nothing's like real life BEAMSHOTS laugh.gif

I'm just suggesting and it'll would be awesome if a gathering like this can happen again. icon_idea.gif
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I'm dying too. xD You can organize one. =D We're mostly waiting for Philightsophy and Refnulf to get well. =)

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post Sep 11 2009, 11:40 AM

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Is there any Surefire lights which are reliable in terms of mid to high lumens and long burn time. I'm actually going to use it for a trip to the Taman Negara in Pahang. I'm looking at around 12 hours burn time so I think I might need a high intensity LED bulb. My Pelican Nemo has only 85 lumens, so not very good in misty and foggy enviroments. Any suggestions?
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QUOTE(friedricetheman @ Sep 10 2009, 08:40 PM)
Is there any Surefire lights which are reliable in terms of mid to high lumens and long burn time. I'm actually going to use it for a trip to the Taman Negara in Pahang. I'm looking at around 12 hours burn time so I think I might need a high intensity LED bulb. My Pelican Nemo has only 85 lumens, so not very good in misty and foggy enviroments. Any suggestions?
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If you plan to use your light in foggy and misty areas, it's better to get an incan. But then again, incans only have an hour's runtime.

It would be kinda expensive to maintain but more appropriate for foggy areas.

Unless a neutral white LED may be a type to cinsider... Better runtime... I have nevver tried a neutral white in misty environments so i don really know... haha

I have tried my G2 in Genting and the beam just cuts through the mist!! Cool.. Whereas the beam of my G2L dispersed instantly
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+1 on incan! flex.gif

My 0.02 lumens:
- An LED lantern for chores - you can easily get 1 from GW2U
- An incan (Xenon) for scouting - Surefire G2/6P/G3/9P, available from Ace Hardware, if moola is no issue, go for M6! drool.gif
- A Fenix TK40 (GW2U) or EagleTac M2XC4 Neutral (Philightsophy) or JetBeam M1X (nexro) for that extra coolness (or to show-off), longer runtime and signaling sweat.gif
- Keep your Nemo as backup

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Four is more.
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Hi. Hope everyone's having a great time with their lights. Here're some of my lights when I'm not working and go night-cycling with the family
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For my little girl

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The wife's folding bike

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And on my 13-year old MTB.

Philightsophy, how about getting Eagletac to make a bike mount for the M2X series. By the way, my T20C2 which lost the emitter dome is still alive and well after 2 weeks of constant use.

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QUOTE(friedricetheman @ Sep 11 2009, 11:40 AM)
Is there any Surefire lights which are reliable in terms of mid to high lumens and long burn time. I'm actually going to use it for a trip to the Taman Negara in Pahang. I'm looking at around 12 hours burn time so I think I might need a high intensity LED bulb. My Pelican Nemo has only 85 lumens, so not very good in misty and foggy enviroments. Any suggestions?

QUOTE(RookieDaddy @ Sep 11 2009, 03:22 PM)
An incan (Xenon) for scouting - Surefire G2/6P/G3/9P, available from Ace Hardware, if moola is no issue,  go for M6!  drool.gif
- A Fenix TK40 (GW2U) or EagleTac M2XC4 Neutral (Philightsophy) or JetBeam M1X (nexro) for that extra coolness (or to show-off), longer runtime and signaling  sweat.gif


Suggestion:

For the price of the M6 from Ace Hardware (RM2k+??). You can get the EagleTac M2XC4 Neutral White (from Philightsophy) and get the JetBeam M1X (from Nexro). Those two lights reach 600-700 lumens max. You'll need lights that have different modes to preserve runtime. M2XC4 and M1X (with extender) runs on 2x 18650 batteries each. The neutral white on the Eagletac might be easier to see in fog/rain. The Jetbeam M1X has a cooler tint but it also has a tighter beam and it's a thrower light. You don't get as much of the beam bouncing through the fog compared with the Fenix TK40 (I have TK40 btw, loving it, it's more of a flood light, good thrower too). The user interface and handling for the M2XC4 and M1X will be a little confusing for a newbie handling such high powered lights! You'll get used to it.

Next, buy Ultrafire Li-ON charger Model WF-139 and 8x (or more) AW18650 Li-ON protected batteries from Gadgetworld2u, or whoever has. If you're gonna use more than 200+ lumens constantly, you'll need spare batteries.

To calculate your runtime configuration and how often you are using it in between your 12 hours required period, I suggest some research:
Jetbeam M1X review
EagleTac M2XC4 Cool White review (But get the neutral white)
Info from EagleTac website. See under specifications for runtimes and neutral white lumens.


Some additional info I feel people should know about their lights: Jetbeam M1X has no parisitic drain! But the EagleTac M2XC4 has a small amount in little miliamps.
Info here

Sorry if it's too much info and I don't know about surefire lights sad.gif If you are new to Lithium ION batteries, I have info on that too! Care and maintenance. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(eow1973 @ Sep 11 2009, 03:35 PM)
Hi.  Hope everyone's having a great time with their lights.  Here're some of my lights when I'm not working and go night-cycling with the family
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And on my 13-year old MTB.

Philightsophy, how about getting Eagletac to make a bike mount for the M2X series.  By the way, my T20C2 which lost the emitter dome is still alive and well after 2 weeks of constant use.
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where to get those bike mounts?
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QUOTE(damonlbs @ Sep 11 2009, 05:16 PM)
where to get those bike mounts?
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The one holding the Streamlight TL-3 made by joining two bicycle reflector mounts (sold in Tesco - two reflectors per pack) after removing the reflectors. The others are from Dealextreme.
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QUOTE(friedricetheman @ Sep 11 2009, 11:40 AM)
Is there any Surefire lights which are reliable in terms of mid to high lumens and long burn time. I'm actually going to use it for a trip to the Taman Negara in Pahang. I'm looking at around 12 hours burn time so I think I might need a high intensity LED bulb. My Pelican Nemo has only 85 lumens, so not very good in misty and foggy enviroments. Any suggestions?
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Hi friedricetheman, is your trip to taman negara the regular tour trip or hard core trip ? 12 hours burn time is very long and i don't think any incan light can last that long.
I would go for a high intensity LED running on AAs as the workhorse and incan for backup. Batteries should be your bigger concern. You might want to look into headlight to keep your hands free for kepping mossies out of your face rolleyes.gif

If your trip is the regular tour trip, your Nemo should do fine. unless you're using this as an excuse to get new lights whistling.gif , then TK40 would be a sweet light to get
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Hi eow1973,
That is a good suggestion to ET. I have other ideas for them to ponder too biggrin.gif

Hi pseudoblue,
The EagleTac M2 models includes a clicky switch which enables users to cut off parasitic drain. The newer M2S has halved the parasitic drain when the light is in standby.
By the way, the parasitic drain is quite minor for the lights listed and I doubt it would affect the runtimes that much if you are hiking for 3-4 days. Either way, one should always bring along spare batteries and lights.

*Edited because the Jetbeam model shown is the RRT-1, not M1X. My mistake tongue.gif

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QUOTE(Chieftat @ Sep 11 2009, 07:56 PM)
12 hours burn time is very long and i don't think any incan light can last that long.
errr... actually there are... check out the MagLite 4D, 5D and 6D, and some Pelican's bigger brother. brows.gif

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QUOTE(RookieDaddy @ Sep 11 2009, 08:39 PM)
errr... actually there are... check out the MagLite 4D, 5D and 6D, and some Pelican's bigger brother.  brows.gif
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With incan light, there's bulb fragility to worry about. Of course, this depends on the nature of the outdoor activities.

And I'm not sure how serious is he into this flashlight world, i.e should he buy some non-regular batteries and a charger or should he stick with AA/C/D batteries.

I personally recommend few of 2AA flashlights from Fenix/Quark/etc, with warm tint if he prefers and that should be sufficient. Normally, people who are into outdoor activities are very particular about weight, so no 6D or any other big light.



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QUOTE(z-b-i @ Sep 11 2009, 08:47 PM)
With incan light, there's bulb fragility to worry about. Of course, this depends on the nature of the outdoor activities.
hahaha... innocent.gif
let's not start a LED vs Incan war here... else we will have 2 different threads like cpf >>> "The Bright Side V2 - LED" and ""The Bright Side V2 - Incandescent" rclxub.gif
the MagLites posted above is not a recommendation, just wanna to share that such options are available should one wanted to explore the path... and not forgetting that customs are always available if one is bold enough to take the challenge flex.gif
I think friedricetheman already has more or less an idea that a "high intensity LED" will work for him, the incan is just our recommendation of an alternative "misty and foggy environment" navigation tool as we found that incan works better in such environment. laugh.gif icon_rolleyes.gif

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QUOTE(RookieDaddy @ Sep 11 2009, 10:05 PM)
hahaha...  innocent.gif
let's not start a LED vs Incan war here... else we will have 2 different threads like cpf >>> "The Bright Side V2 - LED" and ""The Bright Side V2 - Incandescent"  rclxub.gif
the MagLites posted above is not a recommendation, just wanna to share that such options are available should one wanted to explore the path... and not forgetting that customs are always available if one is bold enough to take the challenge flex.gif
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Of course, I didn't mean to start a war here whistling.gif

It's always good to have the option, whether incan or LED.

Just out of curiosity, what's the price of Mag Mini or Mag 3C/2D? Is there any LED Mag on sale in any store here?

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QUOTE(z-b-i @ Sep 11 2009, 10:30 PM)
Just out of curiosity, what's the price of Mag Mini or Mag 3C/2D?  Is there any LED Mag on sale in any store here?
my-o-my... talk about coincident! I asked Philightsophy the same question last night.
Jusco Mid-Valley have some, but freaking expensive, Ace Hardware Mid-Valley and Ikano Power Centre have some too, cheaper than Jusco but still high. HomeFix in 1 Utama has some too.
Price range from RM79-RM149 for MagMini and RM169-RM369 for C/D sized. One LYN member started a MagLite sales thread some time back 2007/2008? More reasonably priced but still can't beat price online. doh.gif

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QUOTE(RookieDaddy @ Sep 11 2009, 10:48 PM)
my-o-my... talk about coincident! I asked Philightsophy the same question last night.
Jusco Mid-Valley have some, but freaking expensive, Ace Hardware Mid-Valley and Ikano Power Centre have some too, cheaper than Jusco but still high.

More reasonably priced but still can't beat price online.  doh.gif
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What's the best way to import flashlight, ebay or CPFMP? Sorry for this sort of question, I just returned to Malaysia.

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QUOTE(z-b-i @ Sep 11 2009, 11:03 PM)
What's the best way to import flashlight, ebay or CPFMP?
my search shows that ebay has better value... but YMMV. try a search in "The Bright Side" V1, refnulf and nexro has posted some good information on importing flashlights into the country. biggrin.gif
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Hi, to get good quality but affordable flashlight, try Dealextreme. I got my Xenon incans from them, it is a decent flashlight, but uses Philips Xenon Bulb 20W, it draw about 3.5A from the battery, and throw like crazy. Though the buld only rated at 600lm, due to the warm tint, the colour rendition makes it perfect like in the jungle, you can see things easily in the dark. In my test, it has better vision than my P7 rated at 900lm.

The Xenon flashlight I bought is this http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.10855
I did not buy the common Ultrafire, because it only has 500lm, and the Conqueror has a 600lm Philips bulb, plus can you choose to use either 1 18650 or 2. Oh, not protected li-ion, it is too powerful for protected batteries. And it is really small, just about 8.31 in in length.

Have a nice trip.

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QUOTE(susuman @ Sep 11 2009, 11:41 PM)

The Xenon flashlight I bought is this http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.10855
I did not buy the common Ultrafire, because it only has 500lm, and the Conqueror has a 600lm Philips bulb, plus can you choose to use either 1 18650 or 2. Oh, not protected li-ion, it is too powerful for protected batteries. And it is really small, just about 8.31 in in length.

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That sounds interesting. Any idea about run times and does it get hot very quickly?
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okay something a bit off topic.. but may be invaluable for your pocket rockets.. I am currently in possession of a shipment of these military grade 550 paracords, in OD green and black; and a couple type of cordlocs and cord ends/zipper tabs. anyone interested?

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QUOTE(alqa @ Sep 12 2009, 01:10 AM)
anyone interested?

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any info about price, delivery?

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So many responses, cool smile.gif

QUOTE(Philightsophy @ Sep 11 2009, 08:21 PM)
Hi pseudoblue,
The EagleTac M2 models includes a clicky switch which enables users to cut off parasitic drain. The newer M2S has halved the parasitic drain when the light is in standby. By the way, the parasitic drain is quite minor for the lights listed and I doubt it would affect the runtimes that much if you are hiking for 3-4 days. Either way, one should always bring along spare batteries and lights.
*Edited because the Jetbeam model shown is the RRT-1, not M1X. My mistake  tongue.gif
Thanks for the update Philightsophy. Regarding the parasitic drain, I just mentioned for the new user knowledge. But you are right that it won't affect the runtime much. You don't carry M1X? I'll be checking out ur links..

QUOTE(z-b-i @ Sep 11 2009, 08:47 PM)
I personally recommend few of 2AA flashlights from Fenix/Quark/etc, with warm tint if he prefers and that should be sufficient.  Normally, people who are into outdoor activities are very particular about weight...
Just to mentioned models for Friedricetheman, they are Fenix LD20, Quark AA^2. They touch 90 lumens on high and 170++ on turbo. AA batts should be easier to manage I guess. But neutral white only available for Quark AA^2 at the moment. Come to think of it, the cool white on the LD20 also not bad right, I think it can still manage well in foggy situations.

QUOTE(RookieDaddy @ Sep 11 2009, 10:48 PM)
Jusco Mid-Valley have some, but freaking expensive, Ace Hardware Mid-Valley and Ikano Power Centre have some too, cheaper than Jusco but still high. HomeFix in 1 Utama has some too. Price range from RM79-RM149 for MagMini and RM169-RM369 for C/D sized
Just to add, IOI Mall new wing Ace Hardware seems to have a bigger flashlight section. They carry lots of Maglites Incan and LEDs. They have a couple pelicans, rayovacs and streamlights. But personally I feel they are still behind time. Not looking at Fenix, EagleTac for example. Brands like Coleman, Rayovac, Energizer, has upgraded their LEDs and have applicable lights and lantern that people can actually use.

QUOTE(susuman @ Sep 11 2009, 11:41 PM)
Hi, to get good quality but affordable flashlight, try Dealextreme.
Lots of CPF members get stuff from Dealextreme too, and I remember susuman said 1 week delivery to Malaysia thumbup.gif

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QUOTE(z-b-i @ Sep 11 2009, 11:54 PM)
That sounds interesting.  Any idea about run times and does it get hot very quickly?
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I did not have chance to test the run time, but there are some claim it has about 45min on 2x18650 (2400mAH), which is mathematically right, because it draw more than 3A, so it need 2x18650 3000mAH batteries to last for 1 hour.

If you want to have longer run time and bulb life, take out the extension tube, so use 1x18650 and dimmer. It will last longer. I just did a test, it draw 2.3A from the battery in this configuration. So it last 1 hour for 1 battery, total of 2x18650 will get you 2 hour burn time.
(And yes, it can be configure to use 1x18650, and : 2xRCR123 or 2xCR123A in this short body)
Btw, 2xRCR123 is not recommended, because the battery heat up too fast in 3A and short burn time
one more thing, the AW protected I don't think can work. It required unprotected li-ion cell ! (Oh, you are right, I don't have any protected cell either)

Heat up, yes, pretty quick. But it is manageable, not so hot to the touch. Anyway, so far the best thrower I have, better than all my LED , even the SSC P7. It is good in outdoor/jungle/misty.

Have fun. Oh yeah, like Bro pseudoblue said, it take less than a week to reach here, typical air mail is 4-5 days from HK to your door, exclude holiday. But the ordering and packing sometimes take 1 week + rclxub.gif
(They don't keep all goods in stock, they backorder sometimes, and it takes 2-5 days, and packing take another 2-3 days recently)

Can pay using paypal, and you can cancel the order anytime before they pack it, then you get a refund. Since shipping is free, you can order each item in separated order, so it will ship what ever goods available. Any order over USD$15 will be registered airmail (recommended for safer and speedier post in malaysia)

Bro pseudoblue, the battery deal in Dealextreme is really good deal (haha, so many deal), charger also fairly cheap. Just make sure read the review and forum before order, to choose which is best. Oh, let me know b4 you order, I can double confirm for you, because some photo and spec are not so correct.

Having flashlighing!
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speaking of purchasing from dealextreme, i still have about 5 pending shipment from them.....so far i have no issue at all and has been buying from them since a year ago d...

tips : i always use their Drop Shipment and Gift Service (Removes DX logo from package) and it cost mere $0.01 !!!

alga : how much are you going to selling those military grade 550 paracords? ok, no trade related talk here, please pm me for further details ya !


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QUOTE(susuman @ Sep 12 2009, 10:52 AM)
Bro pseudoblue, the battery deal in Dealextreme is really good deal (haha, so many deal), charger also fairly cheap. Just make sure read the review and forum before order, to choose which is best. Oh, let me know b4 you order, I can double confirm for you, because some photo and spec are not so correct.
Cool, I'll keep this in mind thanks biggrin.gif

QUOTE(old newspaper @ Sep 12 2009, 01:32 PM)
speaking of purchasing from dealextreme, i still have about 5 pending shipment from them.....
If it's flashlights, what did you buy? brows.gif

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QUOTE(pseudoblue @ Sep 12 2009, 06:23 PM)
If it's flashlights, what did you buy? brows.gif
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not all flashlight...some other stuff like cell batteries, rechargable AAA, AA, and some cree r2 emitter for modding purposes.....

as for flashlight, i bought this;

MTE SSC P7 C-Bin 900-Lumen 8-Mode LED Flashlight (1*18650)
http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.13060, after reading some review here, http://www.detailingbliss.com/forum/f75/pr...-p7-c-8701.html brows.gif it's more a flood than throw but from the review it's really got my attention....

and some other stainless steel AAA/AA flashlight....i'm a fan of those small light [ i means really small light ] especially made from stainless steel or titanium....

i bought some light from goinggear.com too [ of course with cpf discount coupon drool.gif ] , namely titanium Thrunite, titanium VersaTi [ useless light...lol], and stainless steel iTP upgraded light....

but out of all this, my favorite is still those Lummi Raw & Wee......argggh the waiting period is killing me now !!! and not to mention Quark Titanium AA drool.gif

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QUOTE(Nightstalker1993 @ May 20 2009, 09:33 PM)
i wanna try soldering it back, but i can't seem to get the driver pcb out from the pill sweat.gif

u want it ar?

during the flashlight gathering, if i manage to go, i might bring it along, see what u can do to it lol...

anyway, short and crappy video with the P100A2, some simple introduction and overnight waterproof test lol...



swim with confidence  tongue.gif  laugh.gif
thumbup.gif never knew u did a vid. I'm like going thru V1 bit by bit.. zzzzz


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QUOTE(old newspaper @ Sep 12 2009, 08:04 PM)
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MTE SSC P7 C-Bin 900-Lumen 8-Mode LED Flashlight (1*18650)
http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.13060, after reading some review here, http://www.detailingbliss.com/forum/f75/pr...-p7-c-8701.html  brows.gif  it's more a flood than throw but from the review it's really got my attention....

and some other stainless steel AAA/AA flashlight....i'm a fan of those small light [ i means really small light ] especially made from stainless steel or titanium....

i bought some light from goinggear.com too [ of course with cpf discount coupon  drool.gif ] , namely titanium Thrunite, titanium VersaTi [ useless light...lol], and stainless steel iTP upgraded light....

but out of all this, my favorite is still those Lummi Raw & Wee......argggh the waiting period is killing me now !!! and not to mention Quark Titanium AA  drool.gif
Wow! u ordered Quark Ti's too darn.. U know 4sevens is coming out with their AAA soon, since you're a little light fan, David promised it's gonna be something cutting-edge. If you haven't known, i've just add to your waiting burden.

I like to see your Cree R2 mod end result if you can post pics, feel free to post about the process too biggrin.gif

Let us know what you think of the MTE SSC P7 when u get it thumbup.gif



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QUOTE(RookieDaddy @ Sep 10 2009, 12:15 PM)
Seraph will comes as a complete flashlight, either LED or Xenon. I'm going for Xenon and the parts are interchangeable with Surefire's. I'm gonna use it as a host for D26 (P60-type) drop-in. The advantage is it supports 18xxx size rechargeable and comes complete with 2 switches -- clicky and twisty. I believe Philightsophy will bring in a few configurations.  thumbup.gif
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I will wait for his to arrived, then I decide. But I think for high current applications, better use twisty switches. I'm now searching for twisty flashlight.


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QUOTE(susuman @ Sep 11 2009, 11:41 PM)
The Xenon flashlight I bought is this http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.10855
I did not buy the common Ultrafire, because it only has 500lm, and the Conqueror has a 600lm Philips bulb, plus can you choose to use either 1 18650 or 2. Oh, not protected li-ion, it is too powerful for protected batteries. And it is really small, just about 8.31 in in length.

Have a nice trip.
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This is a nice twisty light, you received already?


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yesterday play paintball at night... i got a chance to test out my M2XC4 and this Olight M20 Warrior Premium (different class...) and too bad, haven't bring my other Tiablo A10-G. errrr... damn, i like it so much instead of firing people, i just flash and give away enemy position (i'm a decoy by the way... doh.gif laugh.gif)
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QUOTE(jwyj @ Sep 13 2009, 08:43 AM)
This is a nice twisty light, you received already?
Yes, I received it already. The order took about 2 weeks, 1 week for the stocking and packing and another week for the airmail (due to the holiday on last monday).

It is bright, though it is hard to compare with a LED (say SSC P7), some says it is the Xenon brighter, some says it is the 900lm P7 brighter, it is really depend of individual (Tested in my office). But when in the jungle at night, the Xenon seems has a upper hand. The Xenon yellowish colour rendition really good in the dark.

The light is actually quite small, it is easy to hold in the hand.
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QUOTE(Zen|th @ Sep 11 2009, 02:03 PM)
If you plan to use your light in foggy and misty areas, it's better to get an incan. But then again, incans only have an hour's runtime.

It would be kinda expensive to maintain but more appropriate for foggy areas.

Unless a neutral white LED may be a type to cinsider... Better runtime... I have nevver tried a neutral white in misty environments so i don really know... haha

I have tried my G2 in Genting and the beam just cuts through the mist!! Cool.. Whereas the beam of my G2L dispersed instantly
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Are those flashlights special for?

Camping

No electricity

Etc.?
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QUOTE(pseudoblue @ Sep 12 2009, 10:21 PM)
thumbup.gif never knew u did a vid. I'm like going thru V1 bit by bit.. zzzzz


Added on September 12, 2009, 10:30 pmWow! u ordered Quark Ti's too darn.. U know 4sevens is coming out with their AAA soon, since you're a little light fan, David promised it's gonna be something cutting-edge. If you haven't known, i've just add to your waiting burden.

I like to see your Cree R2 mod end result if you can post pics, feel free to post about the process too biggrin.gif

Let us know what you think of the MTE SSC P7 when u get it  thumbup.gif
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yeah, i'm aware of the unofficial upcoming Quark AAA....my paypal is always on standby. biggrin.gif


anyone heard of this brand, Lumens Factory? nothing much info on the web / CPF.....

i'm planning to get these,

Lumens Factory Seraph SP-6 LED 3 Mode
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with

Seraph P7 M Series Turbo Head, High Output SSC P7 LED, D Bin (Max Output 950 Lumens)
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please enlighten me.....
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I believe member mdocod has done reviews of the Seraph light and turbohead in CPF. Look for his threads under the Review sub-forum. HTH.
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QUOTE(old newspaper @ Sep 12 2009, 08:04 PM)
not all flashlight...some other stuff like cell batteries, rechargable AAA, AA, and some cree r2 emitter for modding purposes.....

as for flashlight, i bought this;

MTE SSC P7 C-Bin 900-Lumen 8-Mode LED Flashlight (1*18650)
http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.13060, after reading some review here, http://www.detailingbliss.com/forum/f75/pr...-p7-c-8701.html  brows.gif  it's more a flood than throw but from the review it's really got my attention....

and some other stainless steel AAA/AA flashlight....i'm a fan of those small light [ i means really small light ] especially made from stainless steel or titanium....

i bought some light from goinggear.com too [ of course with cpf discount coupon  drool.gif ] , namely titanium Thrunite, titanium VersaTi [ useless light...lol], and stainless steel iTP upgraded light....

but out of all this, my favorite is still those Lummi Raw & Wee......argggh the waiting period is killing me now !!! and not to mention Quark Titanium AA  drool.gif
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Slowly wait. Haha! The Raw & Wee is something else. cool2.gif


QUOTE(MMORPGHunter @ Sep 13 2009, 10:35 PM)
Are those flashlights special for?

Camping

No electricity

Etc.?
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Up to you. We mostly carry it for daily use. It's especially useful for no electricity. You'll be a hero for the moment. Haha! I'll carry one more for security if I walk out at night.


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Nothing much to enlighten since most of us has not touched a Seraph. I'll just tell you what I feel.
Package and price seems very good. Surefire compatibility is awesome!
The logo is really pretty.
Only thing I dun like is that the light itself is pretty ugly. =( If it wasn't for this, I'd have one already. =D
You may wanna contact Philightsophy since he's bringing some soon.

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QUOTE(old newspaper @ Sep 13 2009, 10:54 PM)
I'm planning to get these,

Lumens Factory Seraph SP-6 LED 3 Mode
user posted image

with

Seraph P7 M Series Turbo Head, High Output SSC P7 LED, D Bin (Max Output 950 Lumens)
user posted image

please enlighten me.....
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I looks good to me too, and it is SF compatible, and I like Xenon module add on, haha, just contacted Philightsophy, see when he can get these, and where your plan to get one? from official HK site? Hope Philightsophy can get in fast, or else have to order from HK already. laugh.gif


polkiuj: Haha, I actually like the look of it drool.gif even prettier than the SF E2DL Defender.
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QUOTE(MMORPGHunter @ Sep 13 2009, 10:35 PM)
Are those flashlights special for?

Camping

No electricity

Etc.?
hi MMORPGHunter, yeah, the LED lights we were talking about are good for camping and blackouts, weather and water resistant too thumbup.gif They can be acceptionally bright, and offer various brightness level from low to max. Using some of the latest in LED technology that many are sheltered from it or never heard of. And some battery technology that seem alien techno like 3.7v Li-ON for example. It's like having an epic or legendary item in a MMO game. So, interested in buying one? brows.gif biggrin.gif


QUOTE(polkiuj @ Sep 14 2009, 09:28 AM)
Only thing I dun like is that the light itself is pretty ugly. =( If it wasn't for this, I'd have one already. =D
Hey i thought the light looks cool la.. sleep.gif

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polkiuj,
for QuarkTi, it's coming very soon.....still got 14 days to go before shipping... rclxm9.gif

for the Lumens Factory, the only thing i like is the 'lego'ing part, design wise i actually like it wo....lol....hmm, i don't have any SF as it's way too expensive to toy around

susuman,
there's only 2 source, Lumens Factory HK itself and lighthound.com for time being....

i'd compare both, it's slighty cheaper to get from HK directly...even lighthound is selling a couple dollar cheaper and with the 2% cpf discount coupon still overall the total price is higher than buying from HK [ it's the shipping cost culprit vmad.gif ]

here's the price i got today from HK;

The break up of your order is:

SP-6 $45.99 + $7.50
M Turbo Head $98.00 + $6.00
M Adaptor $15.00 + $1.85

Total is $174.34

i haven't decide to buy it yet, maybe Philightsophy could offer a better deal here? brows.gif

oh, btw the M Turbo Head is on limited run tho......


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QUOTE(pseudoblue @ Sep 14 2009, 10:14 AM)
Hey i thought the light looks cool la.. sleep.gif
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totally agree ! ...one man's meat is another man's poison..LOL

alantch,
thanks for your info.....i'd had went thru all those thread by mdocod in CPF previously but there's ain't any review yet on the SP-6 light itselt....probably it's still new....

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QUOTE(old newspaper @ Sep 14 2009, 10:18 AM)
here's the price i got today from HK;

The break up of your order is:

SP-6                  $45.99 + $7.50
M Turbo Head    $98.00 + $6.00
M Adaptor          $15.00 + $1.85

Total is $174.34

i haven't decide to buy it yet, maybe Philightsophy could offer a better deal here?  brows.gif

oh, btw the M Turbo Head is on limited run tho......


Added on September 14, 2009, 10:23 am
totally agree ! ...one man's meat is another man's poison..LOL
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Strange they separate the shipping cost so not able to save on shipping.
But, you can buy in instalment. biggrin.gif Buy Sp-6 first. Test for a few days..... Later only buy M head & adapter.

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QUOTE(old newspaper @ Sep 14 2009, 10:18 AM)
alantch,
thanks for your info.....i'd had went thru all those thread by mdocod in CPF previously but there's ain't any review yet on the SP-6 light itselt....probably it's still new....
Seraph modular system review

Seraph P7 M series compatible turbo head review
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QUOTE(jwyj @ Sep 14 2009, 10:29 AM)
Strange they separate the shipping cost so not able to save on shipping.
But, you can buy in instalment.  biggrin.gif  Buy Sp-6 first. Test for a few days..... Later only buy M head & adapter.
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yeah, that's exactly what's on my mind now....LOL

QUOTE(alantch @ Sep 14 2009, 10:53 AM)
a BIG thank you for this !! thumbup.gif you simply has the 'search' power in your hand ! thumbup.gif
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Hi guys,

Yes, the Seraph SP6 and SP9 will be available at the end of this month. Hopefully it arrives sooner than expected smile.gif
In addition, there will be cell extenders, D36 turbo heads, D26 LED and Xenon modules, and D36 Xenon Modules. The Xenon modules will be predominantly of HO version, since EO runtimes are quite short for the extra lumens over HO.
No IMR modules this time around, but it is possible to pre-order for them for the next batch.
I will be glad to assist with further questions regarding Lumens Factory smile.gif
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QUOTE(Philightsophy @ Sep 14 2009, 12:51 PM)
Hi guys,

Yes, the Seraph SP6 and SP9 will be available at the end of this month. Hopefully it arrives sooner than expected smile.gif
In addition, there will be cell extenders, D36 turbo heads, D26 LED and Xenon modules, and D36 Xenon Modules. The Xenon modules will be predominantly of HO version, since EO runtimes are quite short for the extra lumens over HO.
No IMR modules this time around, but it is possible to pre-order for them for the next batch.
I will be glad to assist with further questions regarding Lumens Factory smile.gif
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rclxms.gif We will wait patiently. Hopefully there will be not much taxes when they arrived....., so that you can give us resonable prices. nod.gif
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QUOTE(old newspaper @ Sep 14 2009, 10:18 AM)
polkiuj,
for QuarkTi, it's coming very soon.....still got 14 days to go before shipping... rclxm9.gif
so it'll still be another month... sad.gif

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QUOTE(Philightsophy @ Sep 14 2009, 12:51 PM)
Hi guys,

Yes, the Seraph SP6 and SP9 will be available at the end of this month. Hopefully it arrives sooner than expected smile.gif
In addition, there will be cell extenders, D36 turbo heads, D26 LED and Xenon modules, and D36 Xenon Modules. The Xenon modules will be predominantly of HO version, since EO runtimes are quite short for the extra lumens over HO.
No IMR modules this time around, but it is possible to pre-order for them for the next batch.
I will be glad to assist with further questions regarding Lumens Factory smile.gif
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Hi, I am interested in the "Seraph SP-6, 2 Cell Modular Flashlight (LED, 3 Mode)", just wonder can I choose to have a warmer tint like the " D26-LED 3 Mode (Low-Mid-High, Memory) LED Module (6V-13V)"??

And If I want to add a Xenon option for the SP-6 , 2 Cell, which module I should take, 6V or 9V if I use rechargeable Li-ion 3.7Vx2 ??

Oh, it looks like besides the EagleTac T20C2 RGB Kit, Neutral White, I will order the LF Seraph from you too. Ha ha, pity my wallet.

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Thanks guys smile.gif
I hope the tax won't affect the prices too much. Keeping my fingers crossed smile.gif
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QUOTE(Philightsophy @ Sep 14 2009, 03:43 PM)
Thanks guys smile.gif
I hope the tax won't affect the prices too much. Keeping my fingers crossed smile.gif
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I pray for you! rolleyes.gif

btw, polkiuj told me once if it was declared as Torch (instead of flashlight), the custom tax is waved and only the sales tax 10% is charge. hmm.gif
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QUOTE(Philightsophy @ Sep 14 2009, 12:51 PM)
Hi guys,

Yes, the Seraph SP6 and SP9 will be available at the end of this month. Hopefully it arrives sooner than expected smile.gif
In addition, there will be cell extenders, D36 turbo heads, D26 LED and Xenon modules, and D36 Xenon Modules. The Xenon modules will be predominantly of HO version, since EO runtimes are quite short for the extra lumens over HO.
No IMR modules this time around, but it is possible to pre-order for them for the next batch.
I will be glad to assist with further questions regarding Lumens Factory smile.gif
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indeed a good news for us here !!!! biggrin.gif

please keep me update / posted on this ya....very keen on the SP-6 (Led) 3 mode and probably with the extender
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QUOTE(old newspaper @ Sep 14 2009, 07:14 PM)
indeed a good news for us here !!!!  biggrin.gif

please keep me update / posted on this ya....very keen on the SP-6 (Led) 3 mode and probably with the extender
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Thanks smile.gif
I will announce the availability once the shipment arrives.


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QUOTE(susuman @ Sep 14 2009, 05:13 PM)
I pray for you! rolleyes.gif

btw, polkiuj told me once if it was declared as Torch (instead of flashlight), the custom tax is waved and only the sales tax 10% is charge.  hmm.gif
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Oh? Hmmm, I will have to check that first.
Torchlight and flashlight is the same thing, depends if you are using British or American English smile.gif

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Oh? Hmmm, I will have to check that first.
Torchlight and flashlight is the same thing, depends if you are using British or American English smile.gif
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But that how things go, they go by the book they referring (custom tax code), which refer to how much to tax. The Torchlight and flashlight has a different of 30%, according to polkiuj. Having said that, the fellow who print the code of tax, does not see Torchlight and flashlight is the same thing. shocking.gif
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There are a few HS-codes that reference lighting equipments, the one that concern us is under heading 8513 (officially) which carry 10% sales tax and no import duty. You can of coz use a different code and maybe some of our local importer is using one that carries no import duty and no sales tax... maybe 9006? brows.gif
fwiw, heading 8513 used to carry an import duty of 20%. sweat.gif
maybe those who has experience importing or dealing with custom can give us more tips... notworthy.gif
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i have another target beside the SP-6.... brows.gif

has anyone ordered this;

Jil Lite J2-Ti?

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price : USD150 + free shipping for CPF forumer....

they simply look gorgeous to me !

here's just some of my thought;
+ DD
+ using CR2
+ comes with gorgeous accessories
+ good runtime 15hours
+ of course the design itself !

- pricey
- XR-E Q5 WC prefer R2 / R4 !
- single mode
- 80 lumens [ could be merit for some ]

what do you guys think of this?....

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Looks really pretty! I'll take one (or more) if I was rich. Lol!
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QUOTE(polkiuj @ Sep 15 2009, 10:24 AM)
Looks really pretty! I'll take one (or more) if I was rich. Lol!
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don't have to be rich to own this.....lol, just save up and buy lo...like me...and i could only afford to own 1 of this only not more than that sweat.gif

for me buying flashlight is better than buying expensive toys [ transformer etc etc, sorry if i offended anyone ya ], at least it's for it usefulness and could be a life saver too ! my wife and kids are spending more than this buying their stuffs.....daddy need a break too right? LOL

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Jil Lite J2-Ti?

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You little evil, following this thread will make me broke vmad.gif

it is lovely wub.gif , but it is CR2 battery. doh.gif
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Hi Bright Side masters,

I am planning to get one good flash light to hook on to my marker..

It is for playing paintball at night.. i am currently eyeing on the eagletac P100C2... cost about RM160..

Is it good? if you have a better idea than that, i would appreciate if you could share some..

My budget would be below RM200 though.. thanks!
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QUOTE(rayzel @ Sep 15 2009, 11:46 AM)
Hi Bright Side masters,

I am planning to get one good flash light to hook on to my marker..

It is for playing paintball at night.. i am currently eyeing on the eagletac P100C2... cost about RM160..

Is it good? if you have a better idea than that, i would appreciate if you could share some..

My budget would be below RM200 though.. thanks!
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Buy it and be happy you got a great light at a great deal. =D
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Might as well top up rm25 and go for the T100C2 Mark II.
Worth it.
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speaking of small lights, just received news that my Lummi is underway! rclxm9.gif
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QUOTE(rayzel @ Sep 15 2009, 11:46 AM)
Hi Bright Side masters,

I am planning to get one good flash light to hook on to my marker..

It is for playing paintball at night.. i am currently eyeing on the eagletac P100C2... cost about RM160..

Is it good? if you have a better idea than that, i would appreciate if you could share some..

My budget would be below RM200 though.. thanks!
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P100A2

2xAA is a good choice also
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QUOTE(old newspaper @ Sep 15 2009, 10:03 AM)
has anyone ordered this;
Jil Lite J2-Ti?
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It looks so cool!!! drool.gif Like some advance cryogenic capsule, or nuclear bomb brows.gif laugh.gif

QUOTE(rayzel @ Sep 15 2009, 11:46 AM)
It is for playing paintball at night.. i am currently eyeing on the eagletac P100C2... cost about RM160..
QUOTE(strinq @ Sep 15 2009, 01:49 PM)
Might as well top up rm25 and go for the T100C2 Mark II.Worth it.

Hey, good choice of light!

here is a quote from Selfbuilt's review, difference with MKII, and I recommend it:
"The T100C2 Mark II is a beefed up version of EagleTac "intermediate" line. Slightly more built-up and equipped than the personal series P100A2 and P100C2, the T100C2 is aimed at the tactical group (if you'll pardon the image). The Mark II designates a revised build, with enhancements and improvements across the feature set (although I don't have the original T100C2 to directly compare). It also features more customizability and accessories than the personal line"

I think it'll be awesome in your paintball adventures thumbup.gif

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I think it'll be awesome in your paintball adventures thumbup.gif
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if you run out of ammo, can just blind them ! rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(old newspaper @ Sep 15 2009, 10:03 AM)
i have another target beside the SP-6.... brows.gif

has anyone ordered this;

Jil Lite J2-Ti?

user posted image

price : USD150 + free shipping for CPF forumer....

they simply look gorgeous to me !

here's just some of my thought;
+ DD
+ using CR2
+ comes with gorgeous accessories
+ good runtime 15hours
+ of course the design itself !

- pricey
- XR-E Q5 WC prefer R2 / R4 !
- single mode
- 80 lumens [ could be merit for some ]

what do you guys think of this?....
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Wow the design just look like a bullet.
Can I use it to KILL brows.gif
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QUOTE(strinq @ Sep 15 2009, 01:49 PM)
Might as well top up rm25 and go for the T100C2 Mark II.
Worth it.
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You can do that as well. I like the P100C2 cos it's smaller and less bulky. Important consideration for a weaponlight. T100C2 throws much further.

P100A2 is uglier and dimmer. =D
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QUOTE(old newspaper @ Sep 15 2009, 10:03 AM)
i have another target beside the SP-6.... brows.gif

has anyone ordered this;

Jil Lite J2-Ti?

user posted image

price : USD150 + free shipping for CPF forumer....

they simply look gorgeous to me !

here's just some of my thought;
+ DD
+ using CR2
+ comes with gorgeous accessories
+ good runtime 15hours
+ of course the design itself !

- pricey
- XR-E Q5 WC prefer R2 / R4 !
- single mode
- 80 lumens [ could be merit for some ]

what do you guys think of this?....
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Hehe, did you miss the heat treated version? Look at the shading and color smile.gif
It looks like an exquisite World War 2 torpedo that has been reconditioned and remixed for display biggrin.gif
Oh by the way, why 80 lumens from this light is a minus?

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how much aaa?
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USD150 for the 'regular' titanium version.
USD220 for the heat treated version.

All details here: http://www.cpfmarketplace.com/mp/showthread.php?t=193253
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QUOTE(Nightstalker1993 @ Sep 15 2009, 02:01 PM)
speaking of small lights, just received news that my Lummi is underway! rclxm9.gif
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good for you....mine is still in production vmad.gif probably takes another 10 days before shipped ! how many trilium locator you add in?

QUOTE(justin78 @ Sep 15 2009, 05:16 PM)
Wow the design just look like a bullet.
Can I use it to KILL  brows.gif
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that's the unique selling point of this light....

QUOTE(Philightsophy @ Sep 15 2009, 07:11 PM)
Hehe, did you miss the heat treated version? Look at the shading and color smile.gif
It looks like an exquisite World War 2 torpedo that has been reconditioned and remixed for display  biggrin.gif
Oh by the way, why 80 lumens from this light is a minus?

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at this point of time, i would expect it to use R2 instead....even the lummi raw can reach up to 200lumens shocking.gif

i'm aware of this but the price is way over my budget.....and the heat treated are more prone to scratches and no way to restore it....

QUOTE(sniper69 @ Sep 15 2009, 07:21 PM)
how much aaa?
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here's the site where you can order it, http://www.litemania.org/

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QUOTE(old newspaper @ Sep 15 2009, 07:35 PM)
at this point of time, i would expect it to use R2 instead....even the lummi raw can reach up to 200lumens  shocking.gif

i'm aware of this but the price is way over my budget.....and the heat treated are more prone to scratches and no way to restore it....
Err, I think polkiuj will be the best person to talk to, regarding keychain lights + high output biggrin.gif
You get so much heat build up in a small body that running it over 100 lumens is a 'heated' affair smile.gif . Also, it is meant as an EDC and emergency/backup light. 60 lumens from lights is rather bright in dark environments wink.gif

About the scratches, LiteMania mentioned this:
If you scrub with soft material like a door key,
you will observe a line looks like a scratch above.
Actually this line is not a scratch,
but a continuation of debris off the metal key left in the
very minute surface structure of heat treated titanium.
In such case, we recommend to polish the light with a Metal Glow.
That is it.


From my understanding, the heat treated version is very hard and can be restored with a non abrasive metal polish.
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QUOTE(Philightsophy @ Sep 15 2009, 07:49 PM)
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Err, I think polkiuj will be the best person to talk to, regarding keychain lights + high output  biggrin.gif
You get so much heat build up in a small body that running it over 100 lumens is a 'heated' affair smile.gif . Also, it is meant as an EDC and emergency/backup light. 60 lumens from lights is rather bright in dark environments wink.gif

About the scratches, LiteMania mentioned this:
If you scrub with soft material like a door key,
you will observe a line looks like a scratch above.
Actually this line is not a scratch,
but a continuation of debris off the metal key left in the
very minute surface structure of heat treated titanium.
In such case, we recommend to polish the light with a Metal Glow.
That is it.


From my understanding, the heat treated version is very hard and can be restored with a non abrasive metal polish.
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kinda agree with you.....but if given a choice i would prefer a newer emitter r2/r4 and better still if it comes with at least 2 -3 mode. just like my Raw Ns which is 20/200 lumens configurations. i have quite a number of those small light and i find it slightly warm after 20 - 30 min usage but still feel comfortable to handle it. 60 lumens is definitely brightly enough but not enough to please me...LOL. and with the higher lumens of course we need to sacrifice the runtime but it depends on what's the purpose of the light for...most of my light are purely collection driven....

at first i would thought the same thing, heat treated should be more scratch resistance but looking at the pic, it somehow couldn't convince me enough...unless we have a unit to test it out brows.gif

please correct me if i'm wrong ya as i'm still very noob when comes to flashlight..... icon_rolleyes.gif


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QUOTE(old newspaper @ Sep 15 2009, 08:21 PM)
kinda agree with you.....but if given a choice i would prefer a newer emitter r2/r4 and better still if it comes with at least 2 -3 mode. just like my Raw Ns which is 20/200 lumens configurations. i have quite a number of those small light and i find it slightly warm after 20 - 30 min usage but still feel comfortable to handle it. 60 lumens is definitely brightly enough but not enough to please me...LOL. and with the higher lumens of course we need to sacrifice the runtime but it depends on what's the purpose of the light for...most of my light are purely collection driven....

at first i would thought the same thing, heat treated should be more scratch resistance but looking at the pic, it somehow couldn't convince me enough...unless we have a unit to test it out  brows.gif

please correct me if i'm wrong ya as i'm still very noob when comes to flashlight..... icon_rolleyes.gif
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Haha, no correction needed friend smile.gif . What's more important is that we know what are our requirements are when buying a light. I have read on CPF on how some guy bought a light and starts complaining about it but it is due to user error or the light is not what the buyer is expecting.
All buyers (including me smile.gif ), will have different requirements from a light. At least we know now that you love high powered lights biggrin.gif
Your Raw Ns has a good brightness selection, you are able to choose a long lifetime with decent output or blind someone temporary with such a small light (which can be surprising).
Oh about the emitter, don't have to fret over it since the J2 is not a high powered application. The difference between Q5 and R2 is not readily noticeable at high lumen range. What I would like to see is a neutral white tint for it biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(old newspaper @ Sep 15 2009, 07:35 PM)
good for you....mine is still in production  vmad.gif probably takes another 10 days before shipped ! how many trilium locator you add in?
that's the unique selling point of this light....
at this point of time, i would expect it to use R2 instead....even the lummi raw can reach up to 200lumens  shocking.gif

i'm aware of this but the price is way over my budget.....and the heat treated are more prone to scratches and no way to restore it....
USD150

here's the site where you can order it, http://www.litemania.org/
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how many i added ar?

2 i guess...

the wee only got 2 slots lol.
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hi guys, im planning to get the fenix tk20.
Before getting it, just wana get some answers about batteries to be used in it.
The TK20 states that the batteries sud be 1.5v AA, how about those 1.2v or 1.7v type? can they be used in it also??
2ndly, if i were to leave the batteries in the flashlight for quite some time, which batteries should i get?? the normal energizer or the energizer lithium(e2 or something)
which 1 is better to be leave in it for long period? as i know normal alkaline energizer may leak, but how about the lithium version? will they leak too or spoilt the light if leave in it for long period?
and 1 more thing, does the over discharge risk applies to normal AA batteries(alkaline/lithium) also or only to li-ion batteries??

thanks in advance for the answer... biggrin.gif biggrin.gif
and pardon my noobness blush.gif blush.gif

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QUOTE(polkiuj @ Sep 15 2009, 12:01 PM)
Buy it and be happy you got a great light at a great deal. =D
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QUOTE(strinq @ Sep 15 2009, 01:49 PM)
Might as well top up rm25 and go for the T100C2 Mark II.
Worth it.
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QUOTE(damonlbs @ Sep 15 2009, 04:11 PM)
P100A2

2xAA is a good choice also
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QUOTE(pseudoblue @ Sep 15 2009, 04:38 PM)
It looks so cool!!! drool.gif Like some advance cryogenic capsule, or nuclear bomb brows.gif laugh.gif
Hey, good choice of light!

here is a quote from Selfbuilt's review, difference with MKII, and I recommend it:
"The T100C2 Mark II is a beefed up version of EagleTac "intermediate" line. Slightly more built-up and equipped than the personal series P100A2 and P100C2, the T100C2 is aimed at the tactical group (if you'll pardon the image). The Mark II designates a revised build, with enhancements and improvements across the feature set (although I don't have the original T100C2 to directly compare). It also features more customizability and accessories than the personal line"

I think it'll be awesome in your paintball adventures  thumbup.gif
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Thanks you guys.. Will be ordering T100C2 Mark II then.. can't wait to flash it during the night game.. hehe
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QUOTE(Togepy @ Sep 16 2009, 02:02 AM)
hi guys, im planning to get the fenix tk20.
Before getting it, just wana get some answers about batteries to be used in it.
The TK20 states that the batteries sud be 1.5v AA, how about those 1.2v or 1.7v type? can they be used in it also??
2ndly, if i were to leave the batteries in the flashlight for quite some time, which batteries should i get?? the normal energizer or the energizer lithium(e2 or something)
which 1 is better to be leave in it for long period? as i know normal alkaline energizer may leak, but how about the lithium version? will they leak too or spoilt the light if leave in it for long period?
and 1 more thing, does the over discharge risk applies to normal AA batteries(alkaline/lithium) also or only to li-ion batteries??

thanks in advance for the answer...  biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif
and pardon my noobness  blush.gif  blush.gif
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I don't own TK20, but I have others AA like L2D, Quark AA^2, there all take 1.2V well. 1.7V should be no problem also, after all , when on load, all should pull down to lower than 1.5V.

Yes, Alkaline batteries almost guarantee to leak if you leave it for long time, be it Energizer or other brand, it is only good if you use it and replace it frequently. Rechargeable NiMH seems to be better in terms of the leakage (So far non of my NiMH leak before, and I had too many incident of leaking Alkaline that ruined my stuffs).

Lithium e2 should be ok, but if you really want to leave it long for emergency use, like in the house or the car, why not use CR123A Lithium, it has 10 years shelf life, should be a good backup light for emergency. And it should have more energy than the AA, hence run longer.

Over discharge, you mean like use it below the 2.7V for Lithium?
Yes, NiMh cutoff voltage should be 0.8-0.9V when on load, if no load or light load (like clock), it should be 1.1V. But so far no NiMH battery comes with this kind of features that I know locally. Some LED head does cut off AA at 0.9V, but TK20 never mentioned that.

Sometimes the term risk is misleading, the "risk" here is merely for the risk of destroying the NiMh/Li-ion, not the device or the property/health of the user.

Like the Protected li-ion, the main meaning of the protected is the li-ion is protected from overcharge, overdischarge and possible over current (it is actually not fool proof, and it is not really short circuit either, but somehow it protect the li-ion from over-current discharge). ((Haha damonlbs, still owe you a complete write up on this issue, will complete it soon, when I get the time))

So it is protecting the li-ion. not you haha laugh.gif Having said that, using AA or li-ion has the same kind of risk of fire/explosion.

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In short, I like the natural white LED, but if you use it frequently it is ok. to keep it for long, don't use Alkaline, the advertised D****cell is the worst of leaking for prolong of storage. Lithium or NiMH is the way to go, but NiMH will selfdischarge over time, not good either. Lithium AA, expensive!

Get a CR123A like PD20/PD30, it is smaller, brighter and can store up to 10 years. Ideal for emergency / backup light.

Just my 0.9 sen. Have a nice day

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QUOTE(Togepy @ Sep 16 2009, 02:02 AM)
hi guys, im planning to get the fenix tk20.
Before getting it, just wana get some answers about batteries to be used in it.
The TK20 states that the batteries sud be 1.5v AA, how about those 1.2v or 1.7v type? can they be used in it also??
2ndly, if i were to leave the batteries in the flashlight for quite some time, which batteries should i get?? the normal energizer or the energizer lithium(e2 or something)
which 1 is better to be leave in it for long period? as i know normal alkaline energizer may leak, but how about the lithium version? will they leak too or spoilt the light if leave in it for long period?
and 1 more thing, does the over discharge risk applies to normal AA batteries(alkaline/lithium) also or only to li-ion batteries??

thanks in advance for the answer...  biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif
and pardon my noobness  blush.gif  blush.gif
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If you plan to buy flashlights using the AA batteries, I recommend the Sanyo Eneloop.
It is by far the most reliable rechargeable AA batteries I have used so far. cool2.gif
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Hi All,

for the flashaholic, if you happen to carry extra battery and worried it short-circuit, here my selfbuilt solution, using PVC pipe and end cap. It is cheap and easily available from your local hardware store.

The picture shown are using 3/4", which is suitable for RC123A/RCR123/18650, you can also use 1/2" for AA/AAA/CR123A.

Have a nice day.

ps: the long version is for 2x18650, short one is 1x18650 or 1xRCR123, you can have it any size/configuration suit you.


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thanks susuman and justin78 for the info...
will try the energizer lithium and normal energizer when i got the light.
for alkaline leakage, mostly leave it for around how long then only it will leak?? is few weeks consider long??? or long as in few months...
as for sanyo eneloop, will try it later on when i got xtra budget, coz that is another RM100 more needed for the batteries and charger.
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In addition to Susuman's answers..
QUOTE(Togepy @ Sep 16 2009, 02:02 AM)
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The TK20 states that the batteries sud be 1.5v AA, how about those 1.2v or 1.7v type? can they be used in it also??
Yes, TK20 can take Alkalines (1.5), NiMH(1.2) and Lithiums(1.8)

QUOTE(Togepy @ Sep 16 2009, 02:02 AM)
2ndly, if i were to leave the batteries in the flashlight for quite some time, which batteries should i get?? the normal energizer or the energizer lithium(e2 or something) which 1 is better to be leave in it for long period? as i know normal alkaline energizer may leak, but how about the lithium version? will they leak too or spoilt the light if leave in it for long period?
QUOTE(Togepy @ Sep 16 2009, 11:46 AM)
for alkaline leakage, mostly leave it for around how long then only it will leak?? is few  weeks consider long??? or long as in few months...

(sorry LONG answer, but I felt it was necessary)
Leaking depends on several factors, when it was manufactured, how much capacity was used vs how long it will be kept from the last time being used. Also, if you use different voltage of any chemistries in TK20 = 1.5 & 1.0 (in series) example, the performance will be as good as the 1.0 and both batteries runtime will be reduced alot from their normal. Must use batteries of similar voltage. You will have the proper runtime and avoid the risk of leaking.

Common leaking from batteries happens when:
1) Battery too old and they cannot retain their charge anymore (e.g Alkalines store more than 5 years+), they either leak or when used, they leak immediately.
2) When the voltage has drop to the end-of-discharge point (< 0.8v) and then prolong use will allow the chemistry to collapse, rupture happens, leaking occurs.

Experience:
- You can keep alkalines for a year+ in a flashlight. Mark the dates down. Replace them after a year. If you use it alot, few hours everyday, you may replace them in a week perhaps. Depending on usage.
- L91 Lithium Primaries (Energizer) can last 10++ years. They have higher energy density so they have more runtime than alkalines. Again, recycle them if used alot. Once you TK20 gets dimmed, you'll know!
- e2 lithiums - seems ok but I have never use it.

*These two types of batteries you can leave it in the flashlight and keep in the car under the hot sun for a period. No damage done. Their performance will decrease slightly when heated slightly, but will be back to normal again at room temperature. You won't notice any difference in performace from TK20 regulated electronics.

-Lithium-ION, NiMH rechargeables cannot leave in the car under hot sun. Lifespan slowly reduced are permanent. The chemistries do not recover from high heat. But they are most reliable in flashlight applications thumbup.gif (take note there are more about lithium ions, if you wish to know..)

TK20 is a good light, you can still use Alkaline or Lithiums as long you understand them. I recommend to invest in Eneloops LSD 2000 mAH and their specific charger. Or you can also invest in Powerex Imedions LSD 2100 mAH with Maha charger.

QUOTE(Togepy @ Sep 16 2009, 02:02 AM)
and 1 more thing, does the over discharge risk applies to normal AA batteries(alkaline/lithium) also or only to li-ion batteries??
Overdischarge risk applies to all. But severity is more for lithiums and li-ion batteries.




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Just a thought, anyone who wants to sell their lights (2nd hand) should post here (its against the rules but then it's really sad to see people selling overseas when the locals here can save them shipping costs etc)
what do u guys think?
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QUOTE(old newspaper @ Sep 15 2009, 10:33 AM)
don't have to be rich to own this.....lol, just save up and buy lo...like me...and i could only afford to own 1 of this only not more than that  sweat.gif

for me buying flashlight is better than buying expensive toys [ transformer etc etc, sorry if i offended anyone ya ], at least it's for it usefulness and could be a life saver too ! my wife and kids are spending more than this buying their stuffs.....daddy need a break too right? LOL
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I already have a Raw and a Wee. So buying this would require me to be rick. Lol.


QUOTE(Philightsophy @ Sep 15 2009, 07:49 PM)
Err, I think polkiuj will be the best person to talk to, regarding keychain lights + high output  biggrin.gif
You get so much heat build up in a small body that running it over 100 lumens is a 'heated' affair smile.gif . Also, it is meant as an EDC and emergency/backup light. 60 lumens from lights is rather bright in dark environments wink.gif

About the scratches, LiteMania mentioned this:
If you scrub with soft material like a door key,
you will observe a line looks like a scratch above.
Actually this line is not a scratch,
but a continuation of debris off the metal key left in the
very minute surface structure of heat treated titanium.
In such case, we recommend to polish the light with a Metal Glow.
That is it.


From my understanding, the heat treated version is very hard and can be restored with a non abrasive metal polish.
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Raw running 200L gets HOT! I'm not comfortable with the LED getting that hot although Rob says it's OK. It will definitely lose its output very fast. My Wee running at 50L is a nice light but some places can't use cos it's too bright (like cinema) and some places dun throw far enough. But that's why I have another light in my pocket right?


QUOTE(Togepy @ Sep 16 2009, 02:02 AM)
hi guys, im planning to get the fenix tk20.
Before getting it, just wana get some answers about batteries to be used in it.
The TK20 states that the batteries sud be 1.5v AA, how about those 1.2v or 1.7v type? can they be used in it also??
2ndly, if i were to leave the batteries in the flashlight for quite some time, which batteries should i get?? the normal energizer or the energizer lithium(e2 or something)
which 1 is better to be leave in it for long period? as i know normal alkaline energizer may leak, but how about the lithium version? will they leak too or spoilt the light if leave in it for long period?
and 1 more thing, does the over discharge risk applies to normal AA batteries(alkaline/lithium) also or only to li-ion batteries??

thanks in advance for the answer...  biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif
and pardon my noobness  blush.gif  blush.gif
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My 1st question is why TK20? I can think of better lights at cheaper prices with better emitters available. (Sorry Fenix, haha!)
If you're not going to use it often, it's probably going to be kept in the car or at home for emergencies right? The best battery would probably be Energizer E^2 lithium primary. Why I ask is because TK20 has a rubber body thing which might become sticky if left in the heat. No experience but that's just what I think. It's also way expensive. Unless you use it a lot (it is WAY tougher that the 2 lights below), you don't need the toughness.

Here are my recommendations.
Eagletac P100A2 neutral. Q3-5A.
4Sevens Quark AA^2 neutral tactical. Q3-5A.
?? err... dunno de.


QUOTE(strinq @ Sep 16 2009, 05:21 PM)
Just a thought, anyone who wants to sell their lights (2nd hand) should post here (its against the rules but then it's really sad to see people selling overseas when the locals here can save them shipping costs etc)
what do u guys think?
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I think you should create a new thread for selling and also put the link on your sig then we'll all know. =)
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QUOTE(polkiuj @ Sep 16 2009, 05:39 PM)

I think you should create a new thread for selling and also put the link on your sig then we'll all know. =)
ah true that...
lol i'm not selling any at the moment, just a thought that it would benefit all malaysian flashaholics.

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QUOTE(polkiuj @ Sep 16 2009, 05:39 PM)
I think you should create a new thread for selling and also put the link on your sig then we'll all know. =)
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Yes, I also have a few flashlights I want to let go also.
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I have a U2A for sale at the moment.

Link here : http://www.cpfmarketplace.com/mp/showthread.php?t=198180

Let me know if anyone here is interested.
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QUOTE(strinq @ Sep 16 2009, 05:50 PM)
ah true that...
lol i'm not selling any at the moment, just a thought that it would benefit all malaysian flashaholics.
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I think that is a great idea rclxms.gif A separate thread would be nice as we would not need to vet through this entire thread.

QUOTE(alantch @ Sep 16 2009, 06:00 PM)
I have a U2A for sale at the moment.

Link here : http://www.cpfmarketplace.com/mp/showthread.php?t=198180

Let me know if anyone here is interested.
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Oh man!!! See...wish this come up early. I just bought a U2A!! Although I might be interested in your little lego there. What's the extended runtime for your U2A?
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QUOTE(alantch @ Sep 16 2009, 06:00 PM)
I have a U2A for sale at the moment.

Link here : http://www.cpfmarketplace.com/mp/showthread.php?t=198180

Let me know if anyone here is interested.
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drool.gif Can I trade-in with one of my 6P and/or T100Cmk2 and/or E20 + RM?? OR....
How much is it in Rm if post or COD in Miri? rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(Lazyboy @ Sep 16 2009, 08:00 PM)
What's the extended runtime for your U2A?
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QUOTE(jwyj @ Sep 16 2009, 10:03 PM)
drool.gif  Can I trade-in with one of my 6P and/or T100Cmk2 and/or E20 + RM?? OR....
How much is it in Rm if post or COD in Miri?  rclxms.gif
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No trades at the moment. Would prefer to be paid in USD since I can then use it as PP cash to purchase some more toys.
PM me if you're interested.
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thanks all for the advice given, already got my tk20.
1 more thing to ask, when im changing the mode, i turn the whole head right??
which means when i tighten the head, its turbo mode, and when i loosen it by abit, it become general mode.
Is tat correct? or im doing it the wrong way???
if that so, then will water gets in when im using the general mode, which the head is not fully tighen...

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water shouldn't get in unless u loosen it drastically.
Just enough to go to general mode shouldn't cause u any problems.
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Hi Togepy, grats on getting the TK20!

You'll only need to turn the head fully tighten or slightly loosen until it changes mode. If the o-ring is not exposed, then water won't go in. It's the o-ring that stops water from going in.
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Deerlight vs Tiablo beamshot both using the same batteries. Fully charged.
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You know, your two pink chairs are beginning to seem like trademark liao.. so we all know it's JWYJ's
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jwyj, i see you are using ultrafire batteries. To notify you, we just had a customer a few weeks back came to our shop to buy the AW18650, he said he recently bought ultrafire rechargeable 18650 battery and it exploded while charging, it was just inserted into the charger once he turn around it exploded. In fact lots of news about this online, do research on it.

Do take precaution wouldn't want to see anybody getting hurt. blush.gif Same issues for trustfire too.

Nice collection by the way. biggrin.gif

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laugh.gif hey GW2U, was just browsing your lelong site, just checking out what's new tongue.gif Are you by any chance Dannie?


Added on September 18, 2009, 12:09 amBtw, it's true about Ultrafire batteries, they have a lot of bad cases reported in CPF.

Their Ultrafire chargers seems to be OK

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Danny works at the shop lol. but he does follow up to this thread.
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Nope i am not Dannie. smile.gif He only manages the shop not the internet. Occasionally he will report anything special happen just like this just for my knowledge.

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Oh sorry forgot to mention my name, i am Gwen or also known as Nie (This name was previously used at my old work place cause my old boss couldn't even remember my English name sweat.gif so some customers from there know me by this name tongue.gif ).

Would like to add Selamat Hari Raya to all. Do drive safely back kampung. icon_rolleyes.gif
Note we would be closed on Monday 21 Sept too, the other days will operate as usual. TQ

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QUOTE(gadgetworld2u @ Sep 17 2009, 11:33 PM)
jwyj, i see you are using ultrafire batteries. To notify you, we just had a customer a few weeks back came to our shop to buy the AW18650, he said he recently bought ultrafire rechargeable 18650 battery and it exploded while charging, it was just inserted into the charger once he turn around it exploded. In fact lots of news about this online, do research on it.

Do take precaution wouldn't want to see anybody getting hurt.  blush.gif Same issues for trustfire too.

Nice collection by the way.  biggrin.gif
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How about these blue ones that I got for free, some of which comes from the flashlights you sold. Better than the ultraS and trustS? 3 of them don't have "head".
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Cool  thumbup.gif
You know, your two pink chairs are beginning to seem like trademark liao.. so we all know it's JWYJ's
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Hi, nice to know you too, pseudoblue. biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(gadgetworld2u @ Sep 18 2009, 01:29 AM)
Oh sorry forgot to mention my name, i am Gwen or also known as Nie (This name was previously used at my old work place cause my old boss couldn't even remember my English name  sweat.gif so some customers from there know me by this name  tongue.gif ).

Would like to add Selamat Hari Raya to all. Do drive safely back kampung.  icon_rolleyes.gif
Note we would be closed on Monday 21 Sept too, the other days will operate as usual. TQ
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Hi there Gwen smile.gif I believe I've seen you at the store before. Have a good weekend.
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QUOTE(gadgetworld2u @ Sep 17 2009, 11:33 PM)
jwyj, i see you are using ultrafire batteries. To notify you, we just had a customer a few weeks back came to our shop to buy the AW18650, he said he recently bought ultrafire rechargeable 18650 battery and it exploded while charging, it was just inserted into the charger once he turn around it exploded. In fact lots of news about this online, do research on it.

Do take precaution wouldn't want to see anybody getting hurt.  blush.gif Same issues for trustfire too.
Hi Gwen, just like to know, did the customer mention how the explosion like, in terms of which part of the battery exploded.

It could be the protected PCB at the bottom, or the battery tube/body, or the gas venting vented the valve, etc. Does it catch fire, or did it burnt the charger?

Because if the battery was exploded immediately after he start charge it, it could be the PCB that burnt, due to the wrap (short circuit), or the PCB or reversed putting in the battery.

BTW, did he use the protected or unprotected cell?

Anyway, using lithium battery is no joke, have to handle with extreme care, remember the famous explosion of a Pelikan is a su**fire lithium.

I am just conduction some research and findings, for the Myth of using Lithium Cell, so if you could feedback on this, it will help me a lot. Thanks.

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QUOTE(pseudoblue @ Sep 18 2009, 12:06 AM)
laugh.gif hey GW2U, was just browsing your lelong site, just checking out what's new tongue.gif Are you by any chance Dannie?


Added on September 18, 2009, 12:09 amBtw, it's true about Ultrafire batteries, they have a lot of bad cases reported in CPF.

Their Ultrafire chargers seems to be OK
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She's Gwen la.

GW2U

GW <== self explanatory
2 is actually close to a 3 which means E in today's world
U in actually an upside down "n"

So, obviously GW2U = GW3n

I can't believe I'm going to post this. Lol. whistling.gif
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jwyj, those batteries are fine but only thing the runtime will be shorter as compare to AW battery. We have sold many way before you bought them. smile.gif

Lazyboy, yup you may have meet me, sometimes i will be at the shop too. There is 2 girls at shop sometimes (we both manage LYN), the fatter one is me. blush.gif

susuman, nope he did not explain it in detail all the details are as above only. I know it was protected thou and the charger has no physical or internal damages, it exploded did not catch fire. Basically thats all the info we have.

polkiuj, sweat.gif u linked my name to gw2u, nice linking. Never even though/realise that before lol.

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QUOTE(polkiuj @ Sep 18 2009, 10:12 AM)
She's Gwen la.

GW2U

GW <== self explanatory
2 is actually close to a 3 which means E in today's world
U in actually an upside down "n"

So, obviously GW2U = GW3n

I can't believe I'm going to post this. Lol. whistling.gif
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BLOODY LOL'D!! laugh.gif

btw, guess what came into the post 30 mins ago brows.gif

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Whats inside: drool.gif
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Its a LUMMI WEE 100LM Neutral White! rclxm9.gif
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Smaller than the head of my p100a2! laugh.gif
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Beamshots with the battery provided, haven't charge yet.
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Left is the p100a2 on med, right is the Wee.

I've officially been Lummi-fied! rclxm9.gif

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Sooooo jealous now.... sad.gif
Feel like ordering one but the wait....can kill....
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all the stocks are in. should'nt take that long gua... if u're lucky tongue.gif
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oh yeah, if anyone wants to sell one tell me. brows.gif
though i highly doubt it
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QUOTE(Nightstalker1993 @ Sep 18 2009, 11:39 AM)
...btw, guess what came into the post 30 mins ago brows.gif
...I've officially been Lummi-fied! rclxm9.gif
I can't see any of your pic yet... noooo vmad.gif
anyway, im sure its sweet.

QUOTE(susuman @ Sep 18 2009, 09:54 AM)
Hi Gwen, just like to know, did the customer mention how the explosion like, in terms of which part of the battery exploded.

It could be the protected PCB at the bottom, or the battery tube/body, or the gas venting vented the valve, etc. Does it catch fire, or did it burnt the charger?

Because if the battery was exploded immediately after he start charge it, it could be the PCB that burnt, due to the wrap (short circuit), or the PCB or reversed putting in the battery.

BTW, did he use the protected or unprotected cell?

Anyway, using lithium battery is no joke, have to handle with extreme care, remember the famous explosion of a Pelikan is a su**fire lithium.

I am just conduction some research and findings, for the Myth of using Lithium Cell, so if you could feedback on this, it will help me a lot. Thanks.
Hey bro, interesting notes and thanks for bringing this up smile.gif I think the only way we can really find what happened was the end result of the explosion, how, what it looked like, reported by the user. I'm also wondering what charger he was using. Charging it backwards would cause the battery to heat up yes but I think the PCB would have kicked in... or maybe not.. so BOOM!

You know what I think.. The PCB is meant to stop the explosion, if the PCB pop, then this is clearly a catastrophic design failure. However, I think it's because of the separator that failed, also related to design I assume, but it was very common before. If you didn't know, corporations like Dell, Sony, Lenovo/IBM, toshiba, many more had mass recalling of their batteries few years back due to this type of behavior. Under circumstances, the cathode and anode pierce thru the separator, the battery can heat up in seconds before the PCB can take it.. BOOM! There's just so much quality issues with ultrafires, although many hasn't face any problems with them, but still. The manufacturer should seriously take action on their product.

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btw guys, was browsing fenix's website and saw this...

Introducing, the Fenix MC-10 drool.gif

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OSRAM Golden Dragon Plus LED (LX) with lifespan of 50,000 hours• 3 lighting levels, 2 flashing modes
  -Lighting mode: 50 lumens (5hrs) -> 5 lumens (65hrs) -> 127 lumens (1.2hrs)
  -Flashing mode: Strobe -> SOS
• Intelligent memory function
Uses one 1.5V AA battery (Alkaline, Ni-MH)
• Size: 99mm( Length)*21.5mm(Diameter of the body tube)*25mm(Diameter of the lighting head)
• Materials: aircraft-grade aluminum (lighting head), quality plastic ( Body tube)
• Weight: 53.5g
• Waterproof to IPX-8 Standard
• Accessories: fastener, lanyard, diffuser lens , body clip


drool.gif drool.gif drool.gif

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Oh, looks like they changed the name of the LED to the exact one. Before it was a little general, there's a discussion here already if you wanna check it out. Some ppl think it's ugly, some like it... But I think it's cool too.


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i posted this b4 icon_rolleyes.gif

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I nearly got the MOLLE from Pentagon...but since they went kaput now, i would wait for the Mc-10..hopefully the price wont turn me away...

But i dunno why some ppl think it's fugly...the design of it is so you could clip onto your MOLLE vest (or anything that matters today) and to have it stand on one end acting like sort of a table lamp..

Used to have the older bigger version during our 40km scout walk...and boy was it huge..!! Not to mention it's dim compared with LED we have today....

Gwen aka Nie, do keep us posted when your boss bring in this MC-10 k... smile.gif
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Ok no problem. Now i know its to be release around this year end, price wise we are still clueless.
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QUOTE(gadgetworld2u @ Sep 18 2009, 10:17 AM)
jwyj, those batteries are fine but only thing the runtime will be shorter as compare to AW battery. We have sold many way before you bought them. smile.gif

Lazyboy, yup you may have meet me, sometimes i will be at the shop too. There is 2 girls at shop sometimes (we both manage LYN), the fatter one is me.  blush.gif

susuman, nope he did not explain it in detail all the details are as above only. I know it was protected thou and the charger has no physical or internal damages, it exploded did not catch fire. Basically thats all the info we have.

polkiuj,  sweat.gif u linked my name to gw2u, nice linking. Never even though/realise that before lol.
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The pretty one is me. LOL!!!!
(Just kidding k? I'm certified male. xD and I dun work there. kekeke.)


QUOTE(Nightstalker1993 @ Sep 18 2009, 11:39 AM)
BLOODY LOL'D!! laugh.gif

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So when we gonna go yum cha so u can show me ur Wee. Haha!


QUOTE(ArmorFiend @ Sep 18 2009, 04:18 PM)
I nearly got the MOLLE from Pentagon...but since they went kaput now, i would wait for the Mc-10..hopefully the price wont turn me away...

But i dunno why some ppl think it's fugly...the design of it is so you could clip onto your MOLLE vest (or anything that matters today) and to have it stand on one end acting like sort of a table lamp..

Used to have the older bigger version during our 40km scout walk...and boy was it huge..!! Not to mention it's dim compared with LED we have today....

Gwen aka Nie, do keep us posted when your boss bring in this MC-10 k...   smile.gif
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I think the MC-10 is fugly. Yuck!
Can't imagine why anyone would take this over a Zebralight. xD
Then again, I'm biased.
Hmm... A Fenix release without beamshots? That's a 1st.

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QUOTE(polkiuj @ Sep 18 2009, 05:35 PM)
The pretty one is me. LOL!!!!
(Just kidding k? I'm certified male. xD)
So when we gonna go yum cha so u can show me ur Wee. Haha!
I think the MC-10 is fugly. Yuck!
Can't imagine why anyone would take this over a Zebralight. xD
Then again, I'm biased.
Hmm... A Fenix release without beamshots? That's a 1st.
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going shah alam night ride later. wanna tag along? tongue.gif laugh.gif

ceiling bounce test the wee is marginally brighter than the p100a2 on med which is rated at 50lm lol.

guess the neutral white really is a lot dimmer than the cool white sweat.gif

oh well, i'm still pretty satisfied laugh.gif
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QUOTE(polkiuj @ Sep 18 2009, 05:35 PM)

So when we gonna go yum cha so u can show me ur Wee. Haha!
Add another wee and it'll sound so so wrong.
As it is, it already sounds wrong.
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I have a Wee too. That makes 3 Wee's. laugh.gif
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Nightstalker1993,
holy####, you received your Wee d ! rclxms.gif mine is still in production......and with the shipment ding dong, i guess i have to wait for another 3 weeks to receive mine ! vmad.gif

oh and i have just received the cheap MTE P7 light from DX, i'm impressed with it's performance....but don't how to measure the output, lumens etc etc and i have no other expensive light to compare with... sad.gif

and talking about the Fenix MC-10, there's a chance to win one ! here's how ;
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Selamat Hari Raya to all ya ! and happy holiday too ! icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(MetalZone @ Sep 18 2009, 06:29 PM)
I have a Wee too. That makes 3 Wee's. laugh.gif
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Stop pouring oil unto fire. Teehee. So when you coming back dude??
BTW how's ur Wee? =D


QUOTE(old newspaper @ Sep 18 2009, 06:36 PM)
Nightstalker1993,
holy####, you received your Wee d !  rclxms.gif mine is still in production......and with the shipment ding dong, i guess i have to wait for another 3 weeks to receive mine !  vmad.gif

oh and i have just received the cheap MTE P7 light from DX, i'm impressed with it's performance....but don't how to measure the output, lumens etc etc and i have no other expensive light to compare with... sad.gif

and talking about the Fenix MC-10, there's a chance to win one ! here's how ;
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


Selamat Hari Raya to all ya ! and happy holiday too !  icon_rolleyes.gif
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He waited a looooong time. Haha!
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QUOTE(old newspaper @ Sep 18 2009, 06:36 PM)
Nightstalker1993,
holy####, you received your Wee d !  rclxms.gif mine is still in production......and with the shipment ding dong, i guess i have to wait for another 3 weeks to receive mine !  vmad.gif

oh and i have just received the cheap MTE P7 light from DX, i'm impressed with it's performance....but don't how to measure the output, lumens etc etc and i have no other expensive light to compare with... sad.gif

and talking about the Fenix MC-10, there's a chance to win one ! here's how ;
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


Selamat Hari Raya to all ya ! and happy holiday too !  icon_rolleyes.gif
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still in production?

AFAIK, he already collected everything i think O.o

when was the last time you asked him lol.

and btw, try chatting with him on gmail. WAY more efficient than e-mails laugh.gif


Added on September 18, 2009, 11:32 pmsome comparism ceiling bounce shot lol...

p100a2 on med(50lm)
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Lummi Wee fresh off the charger
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Lummi Wee after 7 mins(with breaks in between. The wee gets almost too hot to hold after ard 2-3 mins rclxub.gif )
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greatly appreciate to Danny @Gedece Enterprise, gave me a replacement for my blown UltraFire charger... you saved me mate tongue.gif
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ROFL laugh.gif @ all of those wee talks... anyway... Thanks for posting your Wee for us... looks.. damn pretty laugh.gif laugh.gif


Added on September 19, 2009, 4:10 pmJust something to share wink.gif

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re-charging batteries and checking their voltages, preparing for gf's wed photo shoot biggrin.gif

I've used 2 sets of Imedions in my TK40 and they're good batteries! thumbup.gif The Powerex 2700mAH are used in the flashes for Nikon alot and their performance are great. The flash 'recharges' faster. Imedions will be used for the first time.

If you guys are considering these batteries for your flashlights, I will recommend it, the Imedions has been great in my TK40.

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QUOTE(pseudoblue @ Sep 19 2009, 10:12 AM)
re-charging batteries and checking their voltages, preparing for gf's wed photo shoot biggrin.gif
isn't that's ur wed photo shoot also? innocent.gif
congrats... cheers.gif so, when is the big day? shall all LYN flashaholics come for party crashing? of coz with all our most powerful piece, strobe + SOS is a must... whistling.gif
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pseudoblue, comparing Imedion and Eneloop, which one's better..? in term of longer lasting..? Coz i know prices for them differ by RM2.50 each over here...

polkiuj, so far i havent come across any flashlight that's ugly, kekee... Some are plain simple or sophisticated, but ugly jst never cross my mind about them...
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polkiuj, I'm coming back next week. My Wee's good tongue.gif

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The wee gets almost too hot to hold after ard 2-3 mins rclxub.gif )
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I decided to take the 50 so it's more practical for actual use.
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oh well, i rarely turn it on for more than 30sec anyway tongue.gif laugh.gif


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QUOTE(pseudoblue @ Sep 19 2009, 10:12 AM)
ROFL laugh.gif @ all of those wee talks... anyway... Thanks for posting your Wee for us... looks.. damn pretty  laugh.gif laugh.gif


Added on September 19, 2009, 4:10 pmJust something to share wink.gif

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re-charging batteries and checking their voltages, preparing for gf's wed photo shoot biggrin.gif

I've used 2 sets of Imedions in my TK40 and they're good batteries! thumbup.gif The Powerex 2700mAH are used in the flashes for Nikon alot and their performance are great. The flash 'recharges' faster. Imedions will be used for the first time.

If you guys are considering these batteries for your flashlights, I will recommend it, the Imedions has been great in my TK40.
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rm700 worth of batteries! rclxub.gif

that'll last my P100a2 a lifetime! haha. laugh.gif

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Hi there guys...

Nice to know that there is a flashlight community on LYN. I am a noob at this but my hobby for flashlight dated way when I was young. My mom would buy me the lantern-like spotlight for me to spot the owl that always rest on a big tree outside my old house.

Then recently, watching CSI had re-sparked my hobby for these flashlight. I have bought a lot of cheapo light for the past few years. My last light was an OLIGHT T-10 which I bought from Gadgetworld earlier this year. It is a great light. Now I'm looking into other brands too. Hope the sifus here would be able to help me along the way.

I am looking into the Ultrafire WF-501B (did I get this right???). I have seen the reviews and it is said to be a good light for a low price. Anybody care to advise?? Thanks in advance...
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i heard they have some qc issues...

it IS an Ultrafire anyways lol.

anyway, welcome to the thread! thumbup.gif
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Hi strobelighter,

Ultrafire WF-501B is a single mode flashlight, why not take the Ultrafire C1 R2-WC 5-Mode Memory, unless you really like the single mode version.

The C1 is a real thrower, and with memory mode, so it will always remember and turn on in the last mode.

As for the quality, Ultrafire is not the top quality producer, but it is ok or fine, in fact it is great for the price.

I have surefire, fenix, jetbeam, 4sevens as well as ultrafire, aurora, Conqueror (also surefire) flashlight.

The Ultrafire sometimes has problem like the flashlight may have scratches/chip when arrived, and I had once dropped my Ultrafire C1, and the flashlight cannot work due to the weak soldering. It was ok after I re-solder it. Besides these, it was great light, it is really cheap. I have a small single CR123A Ultrafire 601C, it is as bright as a Fenix P3D.

Oh, if you know the Ultrafire C1 throw and as bright as my Fenix PD30 and surefire E2DL, then you know why I like it. And it takes 2xCR123A /RCR123 and a single 18650.

And.. I run a high mode, the C1 run for 4 hours and still running, but I off it save the battery, while the Fenix P3D has a LED burnt just after 20 minutes. rclxub.gif

Bottom line, Ultrafire is a cheap alternative to own high output flashlight, with some minor QC problem which can be offset by the low price. cool.gif
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QUOTE(pseudoblue @ Sep 19 2009, 10:12 AM)
ROFL laugh.gif @ all of those wee talks... anyway... Thanks for posting your Wee for us... looks.. damn pretty  laugh.gif laugh.gif


Added on September 19, 2009, 4:10 pmJust something to share wink.gif

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re-charging batteries and checking their voltages, preparing for gf's wed photo shoot biggrin.gif

I've used 2 sets of Imedions in my TK40 and they're good batteries! thumbup.gif The Powerex 2700mAH are used in the flashes for Nikon alot and their performance are great. The flash 'recharges' faster. Imedions will be used for the first time.

If you guys are considering these batteries for your flashlights, I will recommend it, the Imedions has been great in my TK40.
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btw bro, i'm using the same dmm as you and wanna ask a few q abt the current reading feature.

lets say i'm trying to measure the current draw of my P100A2

theres 3 settings which are 2m, 20m/10A and 200m.

at 200m, light at med, it shows 2.5
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on high, it shows 22.7
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at the 20m/10A setting, light at med, it shows 0.27
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on high, it shows 2.28
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now how do i intepret this data? rclxub.gif

i think at the 20m/10A setting its showing the true current in Ampere which is 2.28A on high and 0.27 on med. but honestly i'm kinda confused now rclxub.gif

and by the looks of it, the only diffrence when you change the sensitivity between 2m, 20m/10A or 200m is the decimal point.

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hi, I dont own this DMM, but by the look of the picture, it seems like you have plug into the wrong socket when you measure mA, when you use mA to measure, you should have plug into the mA, and when you set to 10A setting, use the 10A socket.

Hence the reading on the mA is wrong as you are using the 10A socket, but the reading of current in the 10A should be correct.

Draw .27A on med should be ok, but are you sure the flashlight draw 2.28A on high? if that is true, then the LED driver is not efficient on the High, it draw around 6W for a 3W output.

Or maybe the DMM is not correctly calibrated. hmm.gif
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QUOTE(RookieDaddy @ Sep 19 2009, 08:37 PM)
isn't that's ur wed photo shoot also?  innocent.gif
congrats...  cheers.gif  so, when is the big day? shall all LYN flashaholics come for party crashing? of coz with all our most powerful piece, strobe + SOS is a must...  whistling.gif
laugh.gif its not our wed wink.gif she's a photographer for somebody's wed smile.gif

QUOTE(ArmorFiend @ Sep 19 2009, 11:01 PM)
pseudoblue, comparing Imedion and Eneloop, which one's better..? in term of longer lasting..? Coz i know prices for them differ by RM2.50 each over here...
I haven't use Eneloops yet but it's more recognized than Imedions for flashlights used in CPF. There's is a study in CPF for Imedions, quite detail. Eneloops appear to handle higher power draw above 4A better than Imedions. But it wouldn't matter in most flashlights applications where you will be putting your batteries in series for higher power. Even in single AA applications, you won't reach 4AA at this point of time. I chose Imedions because we've been using Powerex a long time. Based on the link I gave, they're quite competitive. Check it out.

QUOTE(Nightstalker1993 @ Sep 21 2009, 11:13 PM)
btw bro, i'm using the same dmm as you and wanna ask a few q abt the current reading feature.
lets say i'm trying to measure the current draw of my P100A2

theres 3 settings which are 2m, 20m/10A and 200m.

at 200m, light at med, it shows 2.5
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


on high, it shows 22.7
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


at the 20m/10A setting, light at med, it shows 0.27
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


on high, it shows 2.28
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now how do i intepret this data? rclxub.gif

i think at the 20m/10A setting its showing the true current in Ampere which is 2.28A on high and 0.27 on med. but honestly i'm kinda confused now rclxub.gif

and by the looks of it, the only diffrence when you change the sensitivity between 2m, 20m/10A or 200m is the decimal point.
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Okay, susuman is right about plugging your red pin in the correct socket. If you measure 2m, 20m and 200m (all miliamps) you should connect the Red Pin into the mAB socket. When you measure anything above 200mA to 10A (20m/10A on DMM) you should connect the Red pin into the 10A socket which is correct. Although you can still measure 200m at 10A, but it's hard to read it...

Taking picture 3 and 4:
- at the 20m/10A setting, light at med, it shows 0.27
It means it's drawing 270mA

- on high, it shows 2.28
It means it's drawing 2.28A

I'm assuming the measurement is correct (similar to my LD10 with boost only circuit), take note that the electronics draw this amount of current for regulation. You can't tell what's the exact current driving to the LED. You will need to open the head and desolder the LED for a connection which it's not encouraged. I can assume that the medium mode is around 120mA @55Lumens and 700mA @195Lumens to the LED for example. As the battery voltage fall the current draw will be higher, giving as much power for constant output until it reaches too low, the light will dim incredibly.

Hope that helps to understand some stuff about the LED driver for the P100A2 and your DMM test. Note that you might get different measurements after the LED is hotter.

QUOTE(susuman @ Sep 22 2009, 12:05 AM)
Draw .27A on med should be ok, but are you sure the flashlight draw 2.28A on high? if that is true, then the LED driver is not efficient on the High, it draw around 6W for a 3W output.
Yo bro, dunno if I answered this question above. 2.28A seems to be enough eh?

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hi, I dont own this DMM, but by the look of the picture, it seems like you have plug into the wrong socket when you measure mA, when you use mA to measure, you should have plug into the mA, and when you set to 10A setting, use the 10A socket.

Hence the reading on the mA is wrong as you are using the 10A socket, but the reading of  current in the 10A should be correct.

Draw .27A on med should be ok, but are you sure the flashlight draw 2.28A on high? if that is true, then the LED driver is not efficient on the High, it draw around 6W for a 3W output.

Or maybe the DMM is not correctly calibrated. hmm.gif
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if i plug into the 200mA jack, straight OL lol.

QUOTE(pseudoblue @ Sep 22 2009, 03:05 AM)
laugh.gif its not our wed  wink.gif she's a photographer for somebody's wed smile.gif

I haven't use Eneloops yet but it's more recognized than Imedions for flashlights used in CPF. There's is a study in CPF for Imedions, quite detail. Eneloops appear to handle higher power draw above 4A better than Imedions. But it wouldn't matter in most flashlights applications where you will be putting your batteries in series for higher power. Even in single AA applications, you won't reach 4AA at this point of time. I chose Imedions because we've been using Powerex a long time. Based on the link I gave, they're quite competitive. Check it out.
Okay, susuman is right about plugging your red pin in the correct socket. If you measure 2m, 20m and 200m (all miliamps) you should connect the Red Pin into the mAB socket. When you measure anything above 200mA to 10A (20m/10A on DMM) you should connect the Red pin into the 10A socket which is correct. Although you can still measure 200m at 10A, but it's hard to read it...

Taking picture 3 and 4:
- at the 20m/10A setting, light at med, it shows 0.27
It means it's drawing 270mA

- on high, it shows 2.28
It means it's drawing 2.28A

I'm assuming the measurement is correct (similar to my LD10 with boost only circuit), take note that the electronics draw this amount of current for regulation. You can't tell what's the exact current driving to the LED. You will need to open the head and desolder the LED for a connection which it's not encouraged. I can assume that the medium mode is around 120mA @55Lumens and 700mA @195Lumens to the LED for example. As the battery voltage fall the current draw will be higher, giving as much power for constant output until it reaches too low, the light will dim incredibly.
  
Hope that helps to understand some stuff about the LED driver for the P100A2 and your DMM test. Note that you might get different measurements after the LED is hotter.

Yo bro, dunno if I answered this question above. 2.28A seems to be enough eh?
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i think i've got it now. the 20m/10A means EITHER 20mA OR 10A resolution. i thought it was 20mA divided by 10, whatever that could mean sweat.gif laugh.gif

but still the current draw is pretty weird though, it increased 10x when the overall brightness only increased by 4x hmm.gif

or is my dmm flawed? blink.gif

and i think the driver is pretty efficient, 1hr 30mins on high constant regulation for 2xAA light ain't pretty bad lol.

anyway, thanks for the explanation! thumbup.gif

would've saved me the confusion if it was an auto-ranging dmm laugh.gif

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QUOTE(pseudoblue @ Sep 22 2009, 03:05 AM)
I haven't use Eneloops yet but it's more recognized than Imedions for flashlights used in CPF. There's is a study in CPF for Imedions, quite detail. Eneloops appear to handle higher power draw above 4A better than Imedions. But it wouldn't matter in most flashlights applications where you will be putting your batteries in series for higher power. Even in single AA applications, you won't reach 4AA at this point of time. I chose Imedions because we've been using Powerex a long time. Based on the link I gave, they're quite competitive. Check it out.


Thanks man! Will go through them... wink.gif


Added : Jst gone through them...and seems like for flashlight usage, Imedion's gonna be slightly better than Eneloopies... I am planning to get 16 rechargeables..and with Imedion, i could save RM2.50 x 16 = RM40...

But i am still undecided...coz Eneloopies are more well known, so i know the quality is there... How about Imedion..? Anyone can help me make up my mind..? icon_question.gif

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IMO, the Imedions somehow feels more solid. slightly more mass and slightly more capacity lol.

oh, and don't forget, the Imedions are cheaper too tongue.gif

i have both imedions and eneloops with me now lol.

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Thanks man! Will go through them... wink.gif
Added : Jst gone through them...and seems like for flashlight usage, Imedion's gonna be slightly better than Eneloopies... I am planning to get 16 rechargeables..and with Imedion, i could save RM2.50 x 16 = RM40...

But i am still undecided...coz Eneloopies are more well known, so i know the quality is there... How about Imedion..? Anyone can help me make up my mind..?  icon_question.gif
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QUOTE(Nightstalker1993 @ Sep 22 2009, 03:39 AM)
if i plug into the 200mA jack, straight OL lol.
Yea, because the current draw is more than 200mA, so it will show a 1 on the DMM, means its above the reading.

QUOTE(Nightstalker1993 @ Sep 22 2009, 03:39 AM)
i think i've got it now. the 20m/10A means EITHER 20mA OR 10A resolution...
Yeap, it will read with 10A if the Red Pin is on the 10A socket, and 20mA if the Red Pin is on mAB socket.
- At 10A, it reads as 10.00A (readings like 0.03 = 300mA, 0.20 = 200mA, 5.00 = 5A)
- At 200mA, it reads as 200.0 (readings like 124.2 = 124.2mA, 20.7 = 20.7mA)

I hope this doesn't confuse you more.

QUOTE(Nightstalker1993 @ Sep 22 2009, 03:39 AM)
but still the current draw is pretty weird though, it increased 10x when the overall brightness only increased by 4x hmm.gif
or is my dmm flawed? blink.gif

I don't think the DMM is flawed, I had measurements compared with a CPF member using his Fluke DMM (the best DMM). Measurements I did were close in comparison. But let's assume yours is not faulty biggrin.gif, you also have to make sure your 9v battery has enough power too wink.gif I am assuming the tailcap has a resistance. You can measure it with your DMM too, instructions here, from CPF member HKJ (if you want to do it).

QUOTE(Nightstalker1993 @ Sep 22 2009, 03:39 AM)
would've saved me the confusion if it was an auto-ranging dmm laugh.gif
Fluke DMM is well known of their quality, but the price is like maybe 5x more sweat.gif

QUOTE(ArmorFiend @ Sep 22 2009, 06:11 AM)
... But i am still undecided...coz Eneloopies are more well known, so i know the quality is there... How about Imedion..? Anyone can help me make up my mind..?  icon_question.gif
Hehe, I took my chances buying Imedions even though I've read so many eneloops usage. But my experience was more with Maha Powerex. And the study helped me bought it smile.gif Last weekend, their performance was great in the nikon flashes, considering that they are high powered devices.


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QUOTE(pseudoblue @ Sep 22 2009, 11:14 PM)

Fluke DMM is well known of their quality, but the price is like maybe 5x more
DX selling auto rangers from usd11 tongue.gif laugh.gif

btw guys, just polished my Wee's reflector with Autosol. here are the results! haha

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both images taken at iso80, f2.0, 1/1.3s shutter. WB changed though as one of the shots were taken on the day i got my Wee. laugh.gif

the diffrence really can see thumbup.gif

and heres my half-polished Wee. too lazy to polish the tail, and also worried it might damage the trits laugh.gif

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... btw guys, just polished my Wee's reflector with Autosol. here are the results! haha
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Nice pictures, you polished until so much difference?

If you decide to take more pics, take the front part also yea, the reflector and emitter, I wanna see tongue.gif
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I'm really liking the niteglow ring.
I usually play basketball till the sun sets and i use to hunt for my keys, now problem solved. smile.gif


Added on September 23, 2009, 1:18 amI'm really liking the niteglow ring.
I usually play basketball till the sun sets and i use to hunt for my keys, now problem solved. smile.gif


Added on September 23, 2009, 1:20 amI'm really liking the niteglow ring.
I usually play basketball till the sun sets and i use to hunt for my keys, now problem solved. smile.gif

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QUOTE(pseudoblue @ Sep 23 2009, 01:16 AM)
Nice pictures, you polished until so much difference?

If you decide to take more pics, take the front part also yea, the reflector and emitter, I wanna see tongue.gif
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here they are tongue.gif

real-life beamshots. target ard 10m away. control at the top. f2.0, iso80, 1s shutter speed

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reflector shots tongue.gif
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QUOTE(strinq @ Sep 23 2009, 01:16 AM)
I'm really liking the niteglow ring.
I usually play basketball till the sun sets and i use to hunt for my keys, now problem solved. smile.gif


Added on September 23, 2009, 1:18 amI'm really liking the niteglow ring.
I usually play basketball till the sun sets and i use to hunt for my keys, now problem solved. smile.gif


Added on September 23, 2009, 1:20 amI'm really liking the niteglow ring.
I usually play basketball till the sun sets and i use to hunt for my keys, now problem solved. smile.gif
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reminds me, need to get one of those. the Blue one matches the trits on my wee nicely laugh.gif
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Thanks for the pics! thumbup.gif
The emitter's already small, making the wee look big! Or... the wee is so small laugh.gif making the emitter look big tongue.gif

biggrin.gif Anyway, the niteglow stuff might be around the same size of your wee.. (LOL that didn't sound right, i'm not deleting it, it came natural).. So putting it with *the wee would be bulky?
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Hi all, just to follow pseudoblue's style to share some of my flashlight:

Aurora AK-P7 SSC P7
Fenix PD30
Jetbeam RRT2
Surefire E2D LED Defender

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QUOTE(susuman @ Sep 23 2009, 04:36 PM)
Hi all, just to follow pseudoblue's style to share some of my flashlight:

Aurora AK-P7 SSC P7
Fenix PD30
Jetbeam RRT2
Surefire E2D LED Defender
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Bro, I like the Macross more..... rclxm9.gif
Or is it a Robotech?
I just missed the old days. wub.gif
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Bro justin78, haha
Macross and Robotech, same lar.

Anyway, it is in the very 1st series Macross, the VF-1J.

How is your flashlight business lately? BTW, you work in Cyberjaya? Becoz I see you can COD in Jusco Tmn Equine, my office just beside Jusco.
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QUOTE(susuman @ Sep 23 2009, 04:36 PM)
Hi all, just to follow pseudoblue's style to share some of my flashlight:

Aurora AK-P7 SSC P7
Fenix PD30
Jetbeam RRT2
Surefire E2D LED Defender
Haha awesomesauce! thumbup.gif thumbup.gif VF-1 looks real good too. Nothing can stop this guy with all that weaponry biggrin.gif I was thinking of getting the VF-25 months back, but decided not too though wink.gif Cool pics!
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haha, pseudoblue good to know you are fans of Macross/Robotech too! Indeed, these 20-30 years creation still rocks, may be only to the folks like us LOL
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susuman - nice vf-1J max version. 1/48 or 1/60 scale? i only have the 1/48 vf-1S fokker..nice to see macross collectors here as well.
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hi ray2ray, its a 1/48. You have the VF-1S WOW! Nice piece, been looking for the new 1/60 VF-1S.

The new VF in 1/60 has better joints, parts etc than the old VF 1/48 like mine.

Anyway, nice to know you like Macross as well! icon_rolleyes.gif

(I changed my avatar too hoping many ppl would like it)

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Bro justin78, haha
Macross and Robotech, same lar.

Anyway, it is in the very 1st series Macross, the VF-1J.

How is your flashlight business lately? BTW, you work in Cyberjaya? Becoz I see you can COD in Jusco Tmn Equine, my office just beside Jusco.
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Hi bro susuman,

My business is looking good, thanks for the support from the members. thumbup.gif

Yes, I am working somewhere in Cyberjaya, thus Equine Jusco is 1 of my makan place.

My bad, I always thought the Macross and Robotech is 2 different robots....... doh.gif
Now it seems they are the same, thanks for explaining man.....

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Nightstalker1993, yup..the Imedions are cheaper by RM2.50 each... wink.gif

Justin78, hahaa..seriously, i never cross my mind about that.. Thanks man..least now i could try on both worlds and see which one suits me better down the road...

pseudoblue, i dont have Maha chargers..will be using Sony charger instead...so hopefully results wont differ much...

Thanks a bunch guys..! Guess it's 8 each then...
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Nightstalkers got a small wee...

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QUOTE(strinq @ Sep 24 2009, 02:29 PM)
Nightstalkers got a small wee...

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...and it's a half polished wee ! LOL

Nightstalker,
which Autosol you use to polish the reflector? ...and i prefer the wee to be unpolished tho...anyway, i'm still patiently waiting for mine to come..arghhh

susuman,
nice avatar you have there! rclxms.gif

just realized i bought quite a number of light within this month d sweat.gif have to put a stop on my paypuke....lol. decided not to buy the Jil R2 and the lumens factory for time being. my most recent purchase was the MG PLI M-CE 700 lumens and a upgraded Romisen flood to throw light. and my last last pending purchase will be the L-Mini ll with the the turbo head and the LumaPower D-Mini VX...

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dunno lol.

just found it in my storeroom.

it comes in a tube, inside is a white paste lol.

and at first i was also thinking like you, but really that patina develops really fast and really removes the shine sweat.gif

you'd feel the urge to polish it a few days after u get it laugh.gif
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have you guys read this?
Jeers (3) to Lummi
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have you guys read this?
Jeers (3) to Lummi
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I have not received any resolution to the Wee blue trits, although a look at the current last post in the (HTW) thread will show another customer has received blue trits in a Wee with no problem.


i think he's referring to me lol.
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QUOTE(Nightstalker1993 @ Sep 24 2009, 05:58 PM)
i think he's referring to me lol.
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pilkiouj and metalzone also waited 3 months for their lummis lol.
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QUOTE(Nightstalker1993 @ Sep 24 2009, 06:36 PM)
pilkiouj and metalzone also waited 3 months for their lummis lol.
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yes, i agree communication is the key.

everytime leave my gmail page open, whenever i see him online, ill ask him about my light, average 2-3 times a week, depending on what he tells me laugh.gif

and HELL YEA ITS WORTH IT!

as long as i bring my spare battery, the batt life doesn't bother me laugh.gif
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post Sep 25 2009, 12:59 PM

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Hi, did you guys really hang on the key? and use it as a key-chain? or as collection.

(oh, poisoned)

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post Sep 25 2009, 02:26 PM

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QUOTE(susuman @ Sep 25 2009, 12:59 PM)
Hi, did you guys really hang on the key? and use it as a key-chain? or as collection.

(oh, poisoned)
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Necklace. Keys will scratch it too badly.
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post Sep 25 2009, 03:18 PM

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Haha, I would get the Wee NS too but I just don't like the wait.. sweat.gif

I've been stalking the Quark AAA discussion, and am waiting for this one to come about.. the wait is killing cry.gif
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post Sep 25 2009, 04:11 PM

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QUOTE(pseudoblue @ Sep 25 2009, 03:18 PM)
Haha, I would get the Wee NS too but I just don't like the wait.. sweat.gif

I've been stalking the Quark AAA discussion, and am waiting for this one to come about.. the wait is killing cry.gif
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You don't like the wait huh?
Heh heh heh.
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post Sep 25 2009, 05:19 PM

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QUOTE(polkiuj @ Sep 25 2009, 04:11 PM)
You don't like the wait huh?
Heh heh heh.

Hey, you'll be bringing in AAAs and the soon to be MCE lights too right biggrin.gif Im not sure abt the MCE yet but more interested in AAA atm.

Let me throw some poison:

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Quote from GuyZero:
I'm *very* excited about this light, so let's review what we know so far:

4Sevens Quark AAA light:

Small AAA ("Ok, it's not the smallest")

Brightest AAA
"we're going to put the best LED in it"
Possibly XPE and XPG versions: "When in doubt, both."
"Certain models will be setting records for brightness"
Estimated OTF lumens 100/15/1.
L/M/H sequence.
Hidden modes.
very high PWM frequencies (over 1k) "virtually undetectable" **(47 replies as 2500khz)

new smart and original UI "designed with the user in mind"

"nicest looking [AAA light]"
"special surface technology"
"There will be colors"
There will be a titanium version and it won't be limited edition
Post #109 in this thread has some possible teaser pictures

Official answers on 10440 use are "No" and "Never"

Japanese cats have hairy bellybuttons

"Final prototype heading my way this week." - 9/23/2009
"Once [final prototypes] are approved, it'll probably be 2-3 weeks before announcement which is when pre-order starts and 2 weeks before delivery. Thats pretty much the standard plan."

Now we just have to survive the wait (which is killing me!)
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There will also be single and double AAA bodies biggrin.gif

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post Sep 25 2009, 05:36 PM

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There will also be single and double AAA bodies


cool
where is our 47 guy? what is the price laugh.gif
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post Sep 25 2009, 05:38 PM

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QUOTE(polkiuj @ Sep 25 2009, 02:26 PM)
Necklace. Keys will scratch it too badly.
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it will be a good idea for necklace, you so smart. yeah I had a AAA flashlight, it was terribly worn out.
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post Sep 26 2009, 01:25 AM

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I'm actually mroe excited about the MCE light as i already have 2 AAA lights which are serving me very well.
A pocket blaster is just what i need.
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post Sep 27 2009, 12:49 AM

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QUOTE(strinq @ Sep 26 2009, 01:25 AM)
I'm actually mroe excited about the MCE light as i already have 2 AAA lights which are serving me very well.
A pocket blaster is just what i need.
biggrin.gif

hehe, we know that they are small yes and takes 18650, CR123 and RCR123, but how many not sure yet. But looking at how small it is from the protos, im guessing it to be 1x 18650, 2xRCR/CR123. thumbup.gif

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post Sep 27 2009, 01:02 AM

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Finallly, got my 8 Eneloopies... 8 Imedion coming up...!!

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