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 iPhone OS3.0(OUT NOW) | iPhone 3G[S](31/7) V2, 3GS registration-booking etc discussion

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post Jun 25 2009, 08:40 PM

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wow...iworld.com shows that iphone 3GS 16GB sold at RM3,899 and 32 GB at RM4,299. Hopefully Maxis will give good price to current users with upgrade package.
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post Jun 25 2009, 08:43 PM

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QUOTE(nokia2003 @ Jun 25 2009, 07:42 PM)
ROFL! then better tell that to the people who is gonna line up outside the optus store before midnight! in the freezing winter season...
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oh man. imagine that i could be one of those "idiots" standing in the line, for that iPhone 3G S... sigh cry.gif cry.gif cry.gif


QUOTE(psjjl @ Jun 25 2009, 08:40 PM)
wow...iworld.com shows that iphone 3GS 16GB sold at RM3,899 and 32 GB at RM4,299. Hopefully Maxis will give good price to current users with upgrade package.
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if i were to sell the oz bound unlocked unit at those prices, i'll be filthy rich!
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Phew, just got back, 1.83Ghz becomes 2.13Ghz. Need to collect my thoughts on the recent findings, and I dont want to hurt anyone's feelings on the current OZ discovery.

I'll just let things pan out. If it does turn out fine, then congratulations to the Australians. They have been reamed on the rear end by their telco's offering since the 3G model is offered, it is high time they get the good news instead of the NZ side hogging all the unlocked units.

However, I am the eternal pessimist. That is how I keep my expectation low, always expect things to go not according to plan, so that I have recovery plans to rebound from the unexpected mishaps. Now, the word is "outright and unlocked". "Outright" can mean prepaid, meaning buying without a contract. "Unlocked" here can be interpreted as "unlocked to all the telcos in Australia" since all 5 telcos in Australia are offering the 3GS now, why the need to lock at all? They can just duke it out on who has the best contract plan to seduce their customers over. If this is the case, "unlocked" here can also mean "unlocked ONLY for telcos in Australia". I would not want to see my high hopes dashed when I slip my sim card in and still see "No Service" on the top left corner. Which brings it back to the need to contact a telco and request an unlock back again, square one.

I pray it does not turn out that way, and if it does not, I myself can be in Australia next month and get one myself. One customer is restricted to one per credit card, to if that is the case, I can bring "quite a few". tongue.gif So either way, I'm playing this cautiously. I hope our iPhone brothers in Australia comes in here with good news, so that we all can share this good news as another option/avenue to get our iPhones. rclxms.gif

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post Jun 25 2009, 08:53 PM

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QUOTE(stringfellow @ Jun 25 2009, 08:45 PM)
Phew, just got back, 1.83Ghz becomes 2.13Ghz. Need to collect my thoughts on the recent findings, and I dont want to hurt anyone's feelings on the current OZ discovery.

I'll just let things pan out. If it does turn out fine, then congratulations to the Australians. They have been reamed on the rear end by their telco's offering since the 3G model is offered, it is high time they get the good news instead of the NZ side hogging all the unlocked units.

However, I am the eternal pessimist. That is how I keep my expectation low, always expect things to go not according to plan, so that I have recovery plans to rebound from the unexpected mishaps. Now, the word is "outright and unlocked". "Outright" can mean prepaid, meaning buying without a contract. "Unlocked" here can be interpreted as "unlocked to all the telcos in Australia" since all 5 telcos in Australia are offering the 3GS now, why the need to lock at all? They can just duke it out on who has the best contract plan to seduce their customers over. If this is the case, "unlocked" here can also mean "unlocked ONLY for telcos in Australia". I would not want to see my high hopes dashed when I slip my sim card in and still see "No Service" on the top left corner. Which brings it back to the need to contact a telco and request an unlock back again, square one.

I pray it does not turn out that way, and if it does not, I myself can be in Australia next month and get one myself. One customer is restricted to one per credit card, to if that is the case, I can bring "quite a few". tongue.gif So either way, I'm playing this cautiously. I hope our iPhone brothers in Australia comes in here with good news, so that we all can share this good news as another option/avenue to get our iPhones. rclxms.gif
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i have no time to point out the correct legislation, but basically a network (given a choice) can lock their phones, provided they offer a service to unlock it later at a "reasonable" price.

if you are running a network, given such leeway, it makes sense if you wanna tie as many customers as you can, to your respective network, to increase your profitability. the only distinction is optus, where it is doing it for free because it views it as a mean of incentive for its customers.

a quick search over the telstra userguide for its employees,
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All unlocking is considered a breaking of contract and the customer will pay an
ETC which can be either a recurring monthly fee for the remaining contract
duration or a one-off lump sum based on the remaining contract length (i.e. Pen
1 or Pen 2).


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post Jun 25 2009, 08:56 PM

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QUOTE(nokia2003 @ Jun 25 2009, 08:53 PM)
i have no time to point out the correct legislation, but basically a network (given a choice) can lock their phones, provided they offer a service to unlock it later at a "reasonable" price.

if you are running a network, given such leeway, it makes sense if you wanna tie as many customers as you can, to your respective network, to increase your profitability. the only different is optus is doing it for free because it views it as a mean of incentive for its customers.

a quick search over the telstra userguide for its employees,
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Nokia,

If u are going to Apple Store tomorrow to get an outright unit..can you test by putting in a Malaysia sim card? But of course the sim card must have roaming la...pleaseeeeeeee

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QUOTE(neekun @ Jun 25 2009, 08:56 PM)
Nokia,

If u are going to Apple Store tomorrow to get an outright unit..can you test by putting in a Malaysia sim card? But of course the sim card must have roaming la...pleaseeeeeeee
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okay! no problem. i have already placed my maxis sim card inside my wallet nod.gif nod.gif nod.gif
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I understand that, but when all the 5 telcos are now offering the 3GS, the only reason I see for locking it to a specific carrier is for the specific advantages one would get for going for that plan. And since all 5 are getting it, the "unlocked" thing can be interpreted as "usable on all 5 telcos, but still locked to only Australian simcards".

Maybe I'm reading too much into this, I pray that I am WRONG. If I am, this spells good news to everyone, and I can even help shuttle some of these "unlocked" iPhones back home.
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QUOTE(stringfellow @ Jun 25 2009, 09:06 PM)
I understand that, but when all the 5 telcos are now offering the 3GS, the only reason I see for locking it to a specific carrier is for the specific advantages one would get for going for that plan. And since all 5 are getting it, the "unlocked" thing can be interpreted as "usable on all 5 telcos, but still locked to only Australian simcards".

Maybe I'm reading too much into this, I pray that I am WRONG. If I am, this spells good news to everyone, and I can even help shuttle some of these "unlocked" iPhones back home.
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yup! we will all know tomorrow. i need to get some sleep!

boy, i'm definitely gonna get some crazy, weird dreams later...
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QUOTE(stringfellow @ Jun 25 2009, 09:06 PM)
Maybe I'm reading too much into this, I pray that I am WRONG. If I am, this spells good news to everyone, and I can even help shuttle some of these "unlocked" iPhones back home.
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hmm, if really you are wrong that will really be a good news. But the problem is, lets assume you are wrong, if you were to help us to bring back phones, how r u going to charge since you hv to sign the contract in order to buy one right? Or u r going to take into acc the cost of terminating the contract immediately?

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QUOTE(shdwkillr @ Jun 25 2009, 10:23 PM)
hmm, if really you are wrong that will really be a good news. But the problem is, lets assume you are wrong, if you were to help us to bring back phones, how r u going to charge since you hv to sign the contract in order to buy one right? Or u r going to take into acc the cost of terminating the contract immediately?
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"Outright and unlocked". Which part of that sentence does not compute? I have done this before.

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QUOTE(stringfellow @ Jun 25 2009, 10:25 PM)
"Outright and unlocked". Which part of that sentence does not compute?
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Hahaha, got it now. Lol. Didn't notice your previous post. Sorry bout that bro. Really hope there will be SOME good news.
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post Jun 26 2009, 12:53 AM

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QUOTE(stringfellow @ Jun 25 2009, 08:45 PM)
Phew, just got back, 1.83Ghz becomes 2.13Ghz. Need to collect my thoughts on the recent findings, and I dont want to hurt anyone's feelings on the current OZ discovery.
U upgraded ur MB Air? How much does it costs u? Looking tp upgrade my MB.... (sorry for the wrong thread)

QUOTE(stringfellow @ Jun 25 2009, 08:45 PM)
I pray it does not turn out that way, and if it does not, I myself can be in Australia next month and get one myself. One customer is restricted to one per credit card, to if that is the case, I can bring "quite a few". tongue.gif So either way, I'm playing this cautiously. I hope our iPhone brothers in Australia comes in here with good news, so that we all can share this good news as another option/avenue to get our iPhones. rclxms.gif
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If the miracle does happen and if ur really going south nex mth, can pre book a spot?

Thanks.
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Hi guys..

Is any1 of you interested in unlocked iphone 3G S from Italy? I am currently working in Milan, Italy and will be back to Malaysia sometime next month..
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QUOTE(hyuan85 @ Jun 26 2009, 04:01 AM)
Hi guys..

Is any1 of you interested in unlocked iphone 3G S from Italy? I am currently working in Milan, Italy and will be back to Malaysia sometime next month..
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Hey there!

My contact is scheduled to arrive in Rome on the 30th, and will be scouring Rome for 2 units. Targets are TIM and Vodafone store in I-Granai, as well as the Apple Store Rome in Roma Est.

Have you personally seen these iPhone 3GS working with foreign sims before? The previous cases of confirmation on the old 3G model basically does it for me, but it would be nice to get a confirmation from someone who is there already. Any word on this?
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QUOTE(stringfellow @ Jun 26 2009, 04:11 AM)
Hey there!

My contact is scheduled to arrive in Rome on the 30th, and will be scouring Rome for 2 units. Targets are TIM and Vodafone store in I-Granai, as well as the Apple Store Rome in Roma Est.

Have you personally seen these iPhone 3GS working with foreign sims before? The previous cases of confirmation on the old 3G model basically does it for me, but it would be nice to get a confirmation from someone who is there already. Any word on this?
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Hey! wow ppl in Malaysia just don't sleep.. haha..

I have seen iPhone 3GS selling in Vodafone, TIM, and some other electrical shops (e.g. Fnac) in Milan.. and it's coming to 3 Italia stores in July.. Apple stores are yet to be opened in Milan...

Personally I have not seen any iPhone 3GS from Italy working on foreign sims, but my sister bought an iPhone 3G when she was here in April and it works.. In fact I activated her phone for her in Italy, no problem with language as you can select English as your default language, even the given charger is a 2-pin plug and since Italy and Malaysia are using the same voltage, there's no need to get a converter specifically for that.


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Are they demanding purchase by contract basis ONLY, or can you buy them outright? Apple Store Roma Est. is selling them outright, and with that info you posted, the status of unlocks is still as "officially unlocked". I just need to know how adamant the TIM/Vodafone personnels are on pushing contract signup on you, otherwise I'll just get my contact to get them from Apple Store Roma no fuss.
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Oh absolutely no contract needed.. Just tell them you want iphone ricaricabile and you can buy them off the shelf without any contract and if I'm not mistaken it comes with prepaid sim from TIM or Vodafone.. if you buy from TIM or Vodafone..

How much is it selling in Apple store in Roma anyway?

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Vodafone and TIM are selling for EU719 for the 32GB, at Apple Store Roma it is EU699. That is still without the deductible VAT claim.

Excellent news on the no-contract news. The TIM/Voda store is actually closer to the hotel my contacts are staying so that probably would be their first place they will scout for. Driving to Lunghezza to the Apple Store may intimidate them abit, although they have plans to go out and rent a car to drive to Milan.

Thank you for the news confirmation. Cheers!

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ive been told that ppl are queuing at the optus store as early as 4am this morning be the first in OZ to get the iphone3gs.... and i dont think its kindda weird..... i still remember the fuss about harry potter and the half blood prince shenanigans last few years ago.....

it wont be a surprise if the going for a long ques.... it is after all the anticipate device of the year.....

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