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 iPhone OS3.0(OUT NOW) | iPhone 3G[S](31/7) V2, 3GS registration-booking etc discussion

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psyeo
post Jun 24 2009, 07:44 PM

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I see that there are quite a lot of complaint o iPhone 3GS battery on Apple support forum too....hmm


Added on June 24, 2009, 7:55 pmI think the problem with my iPhone battery is that there is something (maybe ntg at all) running at background, because the usage time keep on increasing (battery decreasing), while my phone is on standby

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post Jun 24 2009, 08:07 PM

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I just tested push messaging to my ICQ on Beejive..it's working.

Tested push on YM wth String also...both of us got the pushy pushy messages!

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post Jun 24 2009, 08:27 PM

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will maxis bringing in the unlocked version too?
now even italy got wei...

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post Jun 24 2009, 08:28 PM

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@neekun,
Gee.. U still using icQ?! *grins* I should relog in to ICQ and try too! tongue.gif

@contreasjun27,
Yes Maxis will be; it's just a matter of time and DON'T ask when!
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post Jun 24 2009, 08:31 PM

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QUOTE(tinkerbel @ Jun 24 2009, 08:28 PM)
@neekun,
Gee.. U still using icQ?! *grins*  I should relog in to ICQ and try too! tongue.gif

@contreasjun27,
Yes Maxis will be; it's just a matter of time and DON'T ask when!
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Haha ya...ICQ was my first IM and even though my account still active but I do not use it to IM with others anymore haha! I got a 7 digit numbers for my icq..how bout yours?
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post Jun 24 2009, 08:33 PM

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@neekun,
Mine is 6 digit tongue.gif
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post Jun 24 2009, 08:41 PM

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QUOTE(tinkerbel @ Jun 24 2009, 08:33 PM)
@neekun,
Mine is 6 digit tongue.gif
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Wah....lagi lama than mine smile.gif

Okay now I can say all my push notifications testing completed on Beejive and AIM. But one thing i noticed my battery runs dry cepat with push notification and push email enabled.

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post Jun 24 2009, 09:17 PM

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QUOTE(stringfellow @ Jun 24 2009, 07:38 PM)
The battery meter is not accurate at all. I have the Mophie Juice Pack and i left the house with full charge on both the Mophie and the iPhone. After less than 20 minutes walking around in KLCC, I noticed the "charged" icon change to "charging"! After a while it then alternates between "charged" and "charging" like crazy! The Mophie should be depleting its charges FIRST before the iPhone starts discharging it's own internal battery. The only time the iPhone should show it is charging is when it's internal battery is indicating it has depleted its charge.

I suspect that 3.0 affects the accuracy and/or sensitivity of the indicator and gives erroneous reading.


Added on June 24, 2009, 7:40 pmOther dangers I might see in this is when the iPhone shuts itself down based on this erroneous indicator when it is actually still charged with a certain percentage above the shutdown level. Then you're stuck with a dead phone when you would need to be on call.
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Sounds like the iPhone's battery has discharged a little and at the same time it realize that is connected to an 'external power'. So it starts charging. This gives me an impression that the power drain is higher than what the Mophie Juice Pack can provide or sustain. Maybe you can check what is the rate of discharge from the Mophie Juice Pack. A mobile battery charger discharges less mAH than from an external power source.

I've read of similar incidents before. For example, a phone connected on bluetooth, running a navigation program and connected to external power source. So by right it should be charging the phone but due to the high drain, its actually effectively draining whats left in the battery at a very slow rate. So at the end of the journey, the phone didn't really charge at all.
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post Jun 24 2009, 10:20 PM

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Wow, my iPhone is so wierd man, haha..show 20% battery remaining message while charging...and the battery keep decreasing.

the only thing that i can think of now is to blame Vodafone NZ and their lousy 3G network....their 3G cellular data network seems to be down (no wonder my push notification is not working, while it works on GPRS) I guess the iPhone was trying to get push notification through iPhone 3G network, and that is why the battery deplete so fast, even while charging. Will turn off my 3G network for now and see if the battery will go back to normal....


update: battery seems to recharge normally now.
IMO, So far what i learn is, if u have push notification on, when ur 3G or GPRS data network is down, your iPhone will keep on trying to connect to the data network to retrieve push notification and hence the battery reduce faster... I might be wrong

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QUOTE(psyeo @ Jun 24 2009, 10:20 PM)
Wow, my iPhone is so wierd man, haha..show 20% battery remaining message while charging...and the battery keep decreasing.

the only thing that i can think of now is to blame Vodafone NZ and their lousy 3G network....their 3G cellular data network seems to be down (no wonder my push notification is not working, while it works on GPRS) I guess the iPhone was trying to get push notification through iPhone 3G network, and that is why the battery deplete so fast, even while charging. Will turn off my 3G network for now and see if the battery will go back to normal....
update: battery seems to recharge normally now.
IMO, So far what i learn is, if u have push notification on, when ur 3G or GPRS data network is down, your iPhone will keep on trying to connect to the data network to retrieve push notification and hence the battery reduce faster... I might be wrong
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thx for the info will close push notification n c the result laugh.gif
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post Jun 25 2009, 04:10 AM

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I am not happy with the new battery life with OS 3.0 on my 3G iPhone.

I don't use 3G but always on Wifi. I don't use push, but fetch every 15mins for my email. I get much longer standby time with the same settings on OS 2.2.1.

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In continuation to my experience using the IM+ 3.0, I've found one annoying bug. That is the audio and vibration settings won't stick. If you slide them to OFF positions, few moments later it will go back to default (ON). Also the slide switches are very hard to move, as if the touch screen is not sensitive at all. Receive a respond from the support team acknowledging them as a bug and has been solved with version 3.1 which is currently under review.

So potential buyers take note.
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post Jun 25 2009, 08:21 AM

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what i did find annoying about OS3.0 is my phone started to hang....
im still monitoring the if it would crash again but so far its all good. this is the first time it happened to me....all of suddent it just hang and showing the apple logo....

well other than that, all are fine here in the sweetville! hahahaa... and as for the battery, my batt behave the same as on 2.2.1FW
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post Jun 25 2009, 09:57 AM

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@psyeo,
How and where do U get the batt indicator in %? *grins* It's not available on mine tongue.gif

@neekun,
My phone "died" while I was asleep [damn.... that means I'm going to have battery issues unless I keep charging the phone whenever I'm at the office - but would I have a problem of over-charging?!] and I couldn't switch it on so I plugged it on and it started to charge; I believe it was switched off.

Conclusion: 3.0 allows us to charge when iPhone is turned off biggrin.gif

Unfortunately I'm unable to compare if my batt works the same cause in the past, I only had Wifi + that location thingy on. Now, I've got 3G + Push on too! *ugh*

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I just retested on the iPhone being charged when it's turned off. It'll automatically switch your phone on and start charging when you plug it into a power source.
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post Jun 25 2009, 10:19 AM

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QUOTE(neekun @ Jun 24 2009, 08:07 PM)
I just tested push messaging to my ICQ on Beejive..it's working.

Tested push on YM wth String also...both of us got the pushy pushy messages!
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Are u getting push notification using Wifi or using 3g?
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post Jun 25 2009, 10:26 AM

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QUOTE(tinkerbel @ Jun 25 2009, 01:57 PM)
@psyeo,
How and where do U get the batt indicator in %? *grins*  It's not available on mine tongue.gif

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I get the % through sbsettings, ( there is other way too) but u need to jailbreak...tongue.gif
Grrrr Vodafone NZ 3G sucks, lousy coverage and not reliable, I'm still unable to use 3G data...gotta use GPRS now. 1st world country with 3rd world Telco

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@psyeo,
Ah.. oKies cause I read only the iPhone 3GS will be able to get to view the % indicator. Nah.. don't feel like de-virgining my phone; at least not yet biggrin.gif

@hussain,
I believe it's been reported by some forummer (psyeo?!) that U needed mobile service for push notification to work. As long as U got mobile service network, it doesn't matter if ur on Wifi / 3G it should work biggrin.gif
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post Jun 25 2009, 12:45 PM

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AS I discover this painfully yesterday, push-notification pummels your iPhone battery endurance down pretty hard. I left Beejive running on push notification, and it drains the iPhone , even with the Mophie Juice Pack on, to near critical when I got back home. The 10% indicator lighted up, as I raced to plug it into the power plug.

SO make sure you turn off push notification, unless you are expecting a really important IM message on that time. Once you have received that message, IMO, I'll either completely log off Beejive, or turn push notification for Beejive off. That way, my buddies will know that I'm on the iPhone and still send me IM messages, but it wont beat my iPhone battery to a pulp.

Be warned.
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post Jun 25 2009, 12:49 PM

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@Hussain,
You will need to have cellular data network enable (e.g. able to surf internet with 3G/EDGE/GPRS) to get near instantaneous push notification. If Wifi only, I guess u'll get push notification just like an iPod Touch...during standby it will take up to 15 minutes for the iPhone to connect to Wifi to check for push notification.

also if your iPhone is Hacktivated (non-official unlock, aka Ultrasnow and baseband unlock) there is some problem with Push notification as reported by Dev team


Added on June 25, 2009, 12:54 pm
QUOTE(stringfellow @ Jun 25 2009, 04:45 PM)
AS I discover this painfully yesterday, push-notification pummels your iPhone battery endurance down pretty hard. I left Beejive running on push notification, and it drains the iPhone , even with the Mophie Juice Pack on, to near critical when I got back home. The 10% indicator lighted up, as I raced to plug it into the power plug.

SO make sure you turn off push notification, unless you are expecting a really important IM message on that time. Once you have received that message, IMO, I'll either completely log off Beejive, or turn push notification for Beejive off. That way, my buddies will know that I'm on the iPhone and still send me IM messages, but it wont beat my iPhone battery to a pulp.

Be warned.
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for me the battery will not drained that fast (just like normal) with working 3G data network and with push notification on. but if the 3G/EDGE/GPRS data network fail, your battery will go down 1% or more on standby every few minutes.... I have to stick with GPRS and Wifi now when I'm at home...for some reason in my area the Vodafone 3G data network fail to work since yesterday evening and with push notification on, the battery drain like crazy (even while CHARGING the phone). I can logon to VodafoneNZ 3G network in my area, but the cellular data just fail to work on 3G (unable to surf internet).... when this happen, you'll also notice that the usage log in setting shows the amount of time use is more than the actual phone usage, even when u're on standby most of the time.

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