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 iPhone OS3.0(OUT NOW) | iPhone 3G[S](31/7) V2, 3GS registration-booking etc discussion

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post Jun 24 2009, 05:09 PM

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Yeah I am a heavy user of IM+ (bought it at 99 cents, lucky me) and at first I find it very usefull to have the push notification switch on and have the virtual background process running. But within a few minutes I receive like 40 emails in gmail which is setup in my iphone, damn! So I disable the service sad.gif

But for people who likes the service, you will get the ding when new messages come in and see the counter on your email increase. Maybe you can setup a separate email account for this push message and not send to your normal email since it will be cluttered. You can use filter to redirect the push notifications to it's own folder or label and archive too.
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post Jun 24 2009, 05:09 PM

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@ everyone.

it is still (technically) a brand new app and cut them some slack. to make things worse, 3.0 is a different "environment" and it is bound to have some hiccups here and there la.


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@nokia2003,
No regrets, bro! And shouldn't U be studying for the exam instead of studying BeejiveIM's twitter? tongue.gif

Yes.. I've not complained much about BeejiveIM have I?! Giving them a fair chance to proof themselves biggrin.gif

@davidmak,
Just like gyver, I too managed to get IM+ at 0.99 tongue.gif [oK.. I'm not going to put salt on wound!]
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All this mess could have been avoided if they hadn't posted the crappy build of the app in first place. You don't have to race to get to be the first IM to do push notification, I'd rather have an IM app that does things right bur came in last than an IM app that comes out first but riddled with problems. That's Microsoft mentality you're seeing there.

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QUOTE(tinkerbel @ Jun 24 2009, 05:12 PM)
@davidmak,
Just like gyver, I too managed to get IM+ at 0.99 tongue.gif [oK.. I'm not going to put salt on wound!]
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Ya ya.. and you can tell the whole world I bought it at USD$5.99. But at least I bought it once. I learn that someone has 2 apps for the same thing and it was USD$9.99 a pop. Hah... tongue.gif
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@stringfellow,
Er.. how do U actually delete the app and redownload it without paying a 2nd time for it? I deleted it from my iPhone but when I tried to download it again from the App Store it tells me 9.99 so I restored from my iTunes backup.

Ah well.... I'm quite sure BeeJiveIM had quite a number of sale in the last 24 hrs so they just don't care *shrugs*
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post Jun 24 2009, 05:19 PM

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QUOTE(stringfellow @ Jun 24 2009, 05:14 PM)
All this mess could have been avoided if they hadn't posted the crappy build of the app in first place. You don't have to race to get to be the first IM to do push notification, I'd rather have an IM app that does things right bur came in last than an IM app that comes out first but riddled with problems. That's Microsoft mentality you're seeing there.
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problem is, with hiccups, they are sometimes unforeseeable. you may test an app as thorough as you want (perhaps since the developer OS 3.0 came out) but blunders may not occur until it is being released to the public.

heck, if they were completely avoidable, apple or any other cooperation will not be releasing any software updates in the first place.

sometimes, mistakes are best rectify by various feedbacks received from fellow users and it is by that way, users can feel a marked improvement.

humans tend to take things for granted, and if things come out as perfect as a mold, no one will appreciate those tiny little stuff.
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QUOTE(tinkerbel @ Jun 24 2009, 05:16 PM)
@stringfellow,
Er.. how do U actually delete the app and redownload it without paying a 2nd time for it?  I deleted it from my iPhone but when I tried to download it again from the App Store it tells me 9.99 so I restored from my iTunes backup.

Ah well.... I'm quite sure BeeJiveIM had quite a number of sale in the last 24 hrs so they just don't care *shrugs*
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I think it works this way. When you download again, it'll notify you that you've purchased the app before and you're entitled to download it again for free. I guess either App Store, Apple or the developer keeps some historic information of the users. Something like Android where it manages an OTA list called My Downloads for every gmail user.
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@davidmak,
Er.. with the other applications, it states it's been installed. And when there's an update it's FREE but with this one, the 9.99 was there so I didn't dare to click, hence I did the restore through my iTunes backup.

And Yes I've got like an entire "screen" just on IM applications and I haven't figured which will work proper *siGh*
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post Jun 24 2009, 05:40 PM

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Hey Guys/Gals..

If you do see any jailbreak post in this thread, please push ignore. I'll move them to the right threads later. If you do see any new threads that's deem for closure, please report or pm Baronic, Ah Wang or prasys to take the proper action as i'm heading for me TF:ROTF screening.

Will be back later to clean up..lolz..have a pleasant evening peeps.

Cheers

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QUOTE(tinkerbel @ Jun 24 2009, 05:16 PM)
@stringfellow,
Er.. how do U actually delete the app and redownload it without paying a 2nd time for it?  I deleted it from my iPhone but when I tried to download it again from the App Store it tells me 9.99 so I restored from my iTunes backup.

Ah well.... I'm quite sure BeeJiveIM had quite a number of sale in the last 24 hrs so they just don't care *shrugs*
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Just click that "Buy" icon again and it will tell you that you have downloaded/purchased this app before, and click "OK" if you want to redownload it again. No charge on your account.

QUOTE(nokia2003 @ Jun 24 2009, 05:19 PM)
problem is, with hiccups, they are sometimes unforeseeable. you may test an app as thorough as you want (perhaps since the developer OS 3.0 came out) but blunders may not occur until it is being released to the public.

heck, if they were completely avoidable, apple or any other cooperation will not be releasing any software updates in the first place.

sometimes, mistakes are best rectify by various feedbacks received from fellow users and it is by that way, users can feel a marked improvement.

humans tend to take things for granted, and if things come out as perfect as a mold, no one will appreciate those tiny little stuff.
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New? The method of notification may be new, but the core app is already version 3.0, or do they put it there. For an interim solution, they could have just retract the current version and fall back and put the older working version in it's place for download on the AppStore.

I didn't know that I sign up to be their beta-tester when I PAY them USD15 for this app. If I GET PAID for going through this aggravation, you won't see me griping like this. How ridiculous is it that a person PAY to use a service and is subjected to the service flawed and incomplete? I don't know how you level of tolerance is when it cones to paid service, but when it comes to me, I expect minimal fuss and satisfactory level of service for an app that demand that much money compared to its competitor who is relatively cheaper and works just fine.

Trust me, if I see my ForeFlight app goes haywire on me after I have paid USD69.99 on it, you expect all sign of the Apocalypse raining down on them from me if they don't rectify it ASAP. Communication these days has become as essential as other necessities in life that blunders like this from Beejive will only cause the on-the-fence buyers to look the other way for their IM needs.

NEVER give these companies a chance to slack off, because once they do, they know they will be easily forgiven for the mess they've caused and will take their own sweet time rectify it. Because the users give them that much chance or slack.
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post Jun 24 2009, 06:09 PM

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@ stringfellow

i'm truly sorry but that's the fact when we are first hand/batch users, we are indeed paying to be "beta" users.

one can dispute as much as he/she wishes, but like i said, hiccups are unforeseeable. of course, it can make one mentally satiate by bombarding the said company with complaints and probably contribute an added on pressure.

theory doesn't apply to just softwares, but down to cars as well. that insufferable A pillar plastic in the honda civic which pops up when it gets too hot? surely a big corporation like honda has tested every aspect feasible before releasing the car to the public?

that's the pride (or shame) to be the first batch of anything.




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Hence all these gripings. If they can't imburse me for doing their dirty job reporting every single error reports and glitches, then [RE]imburse me for all the aggravation. If the fault is Apple's, then it's their responsibility to do so, otherwise get the guilty party to the front. Then users won't feel so used and dumped on.
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post Jun 24 2009, 06:39 PM

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QUOTE(stringfellow @ Jun 24 2009, 06:32 PM)
Hence all these gripings. If they can't imburse me for doing their dirty job reporting every single error reports and glitches, then [RE]imburse me for all the aggravation. If the fault is Apple's, then it's their responsibility to do so, otherwise get the guilty party to the front. Then users won't feel so used and dumped on.
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yes, you can. it is your right as a consumer to seek such reparations.

however, if you are not happy with the final outcome, you can then proceed to seek legal action against them for negligence et cetera and ultimately the court (remember not you and i) will decide if the corporation has indeed breached its fiduciary duties.

by then, hopefully (finger crossed), justice has prevailed.
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holy crap, suddenly my battery is running out like no tomorrow 1 minute - 2% without doing anything
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post Jun 24 2009, 07:18 PM

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QUOTE(psyeo @ Jun 24 2009, 06:54 PM)
holy crap, suddenly my battery is running out like no tomorrow 1 minute - 2% without doing anything
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after upgrade to 3.0 ? I notice my battery running out fast too after 3.0 . mayb i use too much tethering ?
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post Jun 24 2009, 07:23 PM

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thats quite opposite of my experience...
i was using beejive and sms quite heavily today...
but my batt still showed 80% now...
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Added on June 24, 2009, 7:23 pmbeejive is working again.

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post Jun 24 2009, 07:26 PM

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QUOTE(thaisxs @ Jun 24 2009, 11:18 PM)
after upgrade to 3.0 ? I notice my battery running out fast too after 3.0 . mayb i use too much tethering ?
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I have upgraded to 3.0 for a week now, battery was better than expected. but today I use my phone till the battery fully depleted, then i use the usb charger to charge it...now my battery life sucks....what a sudden change...my battery might be in bad condition now (like my macbook pro after 8 months...WTF).....


btw I manage to login to beejive again now, but push notification no longer works..
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push is working for me on Facebook IM.


Added on June 24, 2009, 7:32 pmconfirm....push works on YM too.

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The battery meter is not accurate at all. I have the Mophie Juice Pack and i left the house with full charge on both the Mophie and the iPhone. After less than 20 minutes walking around in KLCC, I noticed the "charged" icon change to "charging"! After a while it then alternates between "charged" and "charging" like crazy! The Mophie should be depleting its charges FIRST before the iPhone starts discharging it's own internal battery. The only time the iPhone should show it is charging is when it's internal battery is indicating it has depleted its charge.

I suspect that 3.0 affects the accuracy and/or sensitivity of the indicator and gives erroneous reading.


Added on June 24, 2009, 7:40 pmOther dangers I might see in this is when the iPhone shuts itself down based on this erroneous indicator when it is actually still charged with a certain percentage above the shutdown level. Then you're stuck with a dead phone when you would need to be on call.

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