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post Aug 17 2009, 04:56 AM

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where can i get this Latest 3 months' savings account activity/current account statements ? coz i'm going apply American Express Gold Credit Card.
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QUOTE(ccl9n @ Aug 17 2009, 04:56 AM)
where can i get this Latest 3 months' savings account activity/current account statements ? coz i'm going apply American Express Gold Credit Card.
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This is your bank's account activity. It's either those PDF e-statements, those mail that you get from the bank on a monthly basis (for current account) or your bank book's pages. (I don't think bank accounts uses the old bank book these days right?)

Best if you use the account statement where your salary is being banked in and as for business owners, it'll be your business bank account where all the cash inflows and outflows occurs.

I'm actually surprised by this question ... shocking.gif

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QUOTE(MilesAndMore @ Aug 14 2009, 07:26 PM)
The card we're talking here now is Hong Leong Bank credit cards. And yes, Hong Leong Bank credit cards need to be activated. I still have the letter from Hong Leong Bank telling us that the credit cards need to be activated over the phone. I'm going out soon, will scan and post it here later tonight  sweat.gif
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In that case, you have a point to bring the case up. Check if any very fine-prints or T&C (in the undelivered CC mail) that states if user did not activate within 7-14 days, it will automatic activate.

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post Aug 17 2009, 12:02 PM

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hi every1,

I'm a freelance contractor in PC services. On September last year 2008 since I was retrenched, my wife lent me her credit card for daily use such as buying petrol etc so I can find business to cover our expenses. Before the card is given to me, her payment is doing good as she planned well to clear the amount she spent.

However, after I used it for 3 months, the card is blocked due to bad payment, it is my fault. I didn't manage well to pay the minimum charges on time and I always delay it. Currently the debt is cleared on March 2009 and it's been 5-7 months since the card being blocked. We have tried every method by calling to c/card centre, or write-in to Maybank but what we get is bad news. At last even my wife giving up applying Maybank c/card, tend to switch to other bank and surprisingly the application is rejected too due to the bad record.

Any1 here can help me on this matter? My wife remains 2 cards now which is from RHB and UOB, she could not apply new cards anymore. It's not her fault and I'm willing to take all the responsibility, hoping she could get another chance to continue using the Maybank c/card so are the others. I'm looking forward to any of the kind and professional friends around here to offer me your help or opinions. Thank you and really appreciated..!!!
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QUOTE(ccl9n @ Aug 17 2009, 04:56 AM)
where can i get this Latest 3 months' savings account activity/current account statements ? coz i'm going apply American Express Gold Credit Card.
You can ignore this request. Our bank accounts held with other banks are private and confidential. So far only Maybank always request for our bank account statement held with other bank and my mom always ignore it. And still they approved her application everytime (she had applied for 3 different credit cards/charge card from Maybank in the last 1 year).


QUOTE(hye @ Aug 17 2009, 07:48 AM)
your bank book's pages. (I don't think bank accounts uses the old bank book these days right?)
Public Bank still do (for its savings account). So does Standard Chartered Bank (regular savings account).


QUOTE(cute_boboi @ Aug 17 2009, 10:42 AM)
In that case, you have a point to bring the case up. Check if any very fine-prints or T&C (in the undelivered CC mail) that states if user did not activate within 7-14 days, it will automatic activate.
Have checked all the details they sent to us. No fine-prints about automatic activation after certain days. Anyway, even if there is a rule about automatic activation, how can the cards be activated since we haven't even received the card yet ? rclxub.gif It looks to me Hong Leong Bank is forcing us to use their cards shakehead.gif But i can confirm that there is no mention of automatic activation in all the letters they sent to us.

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QUOTE(basrelief @ Aug 17 2009, 12:02 PM)
hi every1,

I'm a freelance contractor in PC services. On September last year 2008 since I was retrenched, my wife lent me her credit card for daily use such as buying petrol etc so I can find business to cover our expenses. Before the card is given to me, her payment is doing good as she planned well to clear the amount she spent.

However, after I used it for 3 months, the card is blocked due to bad payment, it is my fault. I didn't manage well to pay the minimum charges on time and I always delay it. Currently the debt is cleared on March 2009 and it's been 5-7 months since the card being blocked. We have tried every method by calling to c/card centre, or write-in to Maybank but what we get is bad news. At last even my wife giving up applying Maybank c/card, tend to switch to other bank and surprisingly the application is rejected too due to the bad record.

Any1 here can help me on this matter? My wife remains 2 cards now which is from RHB and UOB, she could not apply new cards anymore. It's not her fault and I'm willing to take all the responsibility, hoping she could get another chance to continue using the Maybank c/card so are the others. I'm looking forward to any of the kind and professional friends around here to offer me your help or opinions. Thank you and really appreciated..!!!
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Hi there ....

Unfortunately, I can say nothing else but bad news to your case. You should have been more careful and responsible for your wife cc payments, period. The bad record is unfortunately irrepairable as this little incident will marked permanently in your wife's financial records that is shared across all banks. Your wife will find it difficult if not impossible to apply loans, cc or any financial products from all banks in Malaysia.

I do not mean to be mean but you have effectively destroyed your wife's financial records and made her "blacklisted/warning" in all banks in Malaysia. Please be more responsible in the future irrespective whatever reasons that you may have especially when it comes to dealing with banks.

Since you have made full payment.
- Report this to AKPK/BNM. (Both agency ... not either or) AKPK/BNM will assist you in obtaining a letter from the bank saying that you have made payment to your debt. However, please bear in mind that the record of bad payments will not go away.
- From hereon, always make prompt payments for anything at all and careful not accumulate debts as your risk ratio will go higher. This will eventually form a new financial historical history and you will be in a better position in 1 year from now. Why 1 year ? ... Coz that's is the minimum period that banks will evaluate your financial history.
- Forget about the MBB card. If it is already paid off but bank remain stubborn to unblock it, forget it and just use UOB and RHB card. I don't blame the bank if they are now scared of you and now do not want you as their customer anymore. I mean if you were the bank then wouldn't you be worried having a delinquent customer as well ?
- In future whenever you apply for loans / cc / financial products, you need to attach this letter.

I hope there's lessons learnt here for yourself and your wife to be more responsible for your debts ... especially cc debts where you are using the banks money for your spendings. Apologies for my honest words.

This post has been edited by hye: Aug 17 2009, 03:12 PM
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QUOTE(MilesAndMore @ Aug 17 2009, 02:16 PM)
Have checked all the details they sent to us. No fine-prints about automatic activation after certain days. Anyway, even if there is a rule about automatic activation, how can the cards be activated since we haven't even received the card yet ?  rclxub.gif  It looks to me Hong Leong Bank is forcing us to use their cards  shakehead.gif  But i can confirm that there is no mention of automatic activation in all the letters they sent to us.
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laugh.gif I was in a bit similiar situation before. I apply and received CC from a very orange bank. I feel like don't want to use it and did not activate it. Two weeks later, the CS called and informed me, activated ohmy.gif 1-year later canceled it.

Perhaps in your case, call up the CS to ask for waiver and try to swipe X times for 1 yr waiver. Else, inform them about not receiving the card and terminate it with waiver.
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QUOTE(cute_boboi @ Aug 17 2009, 03:43 PM)
laugh.gif  I was in a bit similiar situation before. I apply and received CC from a very orange bank. I feel like don't want to use it and did not activate it. Two weeks later, the CS called and informed me, activated  ohmy.gif  1-year later canceled it.

The orange bank we were talking a while ago ? laugh.gif But at least EON Bank had the courtesy to call you to inform you that your card's been activated smile.gif


QUOTE(cute_boboi @ Aug 17 2009, 03:43 PM)
Perhaps in your case, call up the CS to ask for waiver and try to swipe X times for 1 yr waiver. Else, inform them about not receiving the card and terminate it with waiver.
Thanks for the advice. Anyway, we went to a Hong Leong Bank branch just now. A customer service personnel called their credit card centre in KL. She told the guy on the phone about my mom's situation. Then the guy request to speak to my mom directly. The conversation was something like below :

Hong Leong : How much is your combined credit limit ?
Mom : RMxxx
Hong Leong : Okay, so we already charged you RM160 for each card. But you do not have to pay the annual fee now. No interest will be charged either even after this month's due date. I will mail the card out by this afternoon.
Mom : No. No. I do not want the cards. And why do you charge me the annual fee ? I haven't activated the cards yet !
Hong Leong : Yes. But when you applied for the card, our agent already told you about the minimum swipes.
Mom : Yes. I Know. But i haven't received the card. How can you simply charge me the annual fee. I do not want the cards.
Hong Leong : Ok. Here is what we're going to do now. I will give you an additional RM5400 of credit line.
Mom : RM5400 ? No. I don't want.
Hong Leong : Never mind. I will give you the additional credit line. I will also waive your annual fee for both your VISA Gold and Gold Mastercard. Once you receive the cards, charge whatever amount to each card twice within 45 days. Then the annual fee will be automatically waived.
Mom : Ah ? Must do like that ah ?
Hong Leong : Yes. Swipe twice on each card in 45 days then no need to pay for the annual fee.
Mom : Ok lah.

He promised my mom to change the fee waiver rule. Now the annual fee will be waived for both cards once my mom swipe twice on each card in 45 days. We shall find out what happens next in about a month time.

This post has been edited by MilesAndMore: Aug 17 2009, 05:09 PM
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QUOTE(MilesAndMore @ Aug 17 2009, 05:08 PM)
The orange bank we were talking a while ago ?  laugh.gif 
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Yes laugh.gif

QUOTE(MilesAndMore @ Aug 17 2009, 05:08 PM)
But at least EON Bank had the courtesy to call you to inform you that your card's been activated  smile.gif
Thanks for the advice. Anyway, we went to a Hong Leong Bank branch just now. A customer service personnel called their credit card centre in KL. She told the guy on the phone about my mom's situation. Then the guy request to speak to my mom directly. The conversation was something like below :
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He promised my mom to change the fee waiver rule. Now the annual fee will be waived for both cards once my mom swipe twice on each card in 45 days. We shall find out what happens next in about a month time.
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Ok lah. Waive the AF, then swipe 2x per card within 45 days. Hold for 6-12 mths, then cancel it.

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QUOTE(hye @ Aug 17 2009, 02:44 PM)
Hi there ....

Unfortunately, I can say nothing else but bad news to your case. You should have been more careful and responsible for your wife cc payments, period. The bad record is unfortunately irrepairable as this little incident will marked permanently in your wife's financial records that is shared across all banks. Your wife will find it difficult if not impossible to apply loans, cc or any financial products from all banks in Malaysia.

I do not mean to be mean but you have effectively destroyed your wife's financial records and made her "blacklisted/warning" in all banks in Malaysia. Please be more responsible in the future irrespective whatever reasons that you may have especially when it comes to dealing with banks.

Since you have made full payment.
- Report this to AKPK/BNM. (Both agency ... not either or) AKPK/BNM will assist you in obtaining a letter from the bank saying that you have made payment to your debt. However, please bear in mind that the record of bad payments will not go away.
- From hereon, always make prompt payments for anything at all and careful not accumulate debts as your risk ratio will go higher. This will eventually form a new financial historical history and you will be in a better position in 1 year from now. Why 1 year ? ... Coz that's is the minimum period that banks will evaluate your financial history.
- Forget about the MBB card. If it is already paid off but bank remain stubborn to unblock it, forget it and just use UOB and RHB card. I don't blame the bank if they are now scared of you and now do not want you as their customer anymore. I mean if you were the bank then wouldn't you be worried having a delinquent customer as well ?
- In future whenever you apply for loans / cc / financial products, you need to attach this letter.

I hope there's lessons learnt here for yourself and your wife to be more responsible for your debts ... especially cc debts where you are using the banks money for your spendings. Apologies for my honest words.
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hi,

thx a lot, at least this is what i can do for her now, I'll try n see if it works..APPRECIATED nod.gif
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QUOTE(MilesAndMore @ Aug 17 2009, 05:08 PM)
He promised my mom to change the fee waiver rule. Now the annual fee will be waived for both cards once my mom swipe twice on each card in 45 days. We shall find out what happens next in about a month time.
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what to do? get the cards and swipe twice each
wait for the bill and pay fully
wait for the next bill with RM0 balance

cancel the cards icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(cute_boboi @ Aug 17 2009, 05:33 PM)
Ok lah. Waive the AF, then swipe 2x per card within 45 days. Hold for 6-12 mths, then cancel it.
QUOTE(alexwsk @ Aug 17 2009, 10:15 PM)
what to do? get the cards and swipe twice each
wait for the bill and pay fully
wait for the next bill with RM0 balance

cancel the cards icon_rolleyes.gif
Yeah. Will do just that. My mom doesn't want to argue further.
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I received a Eon matta card last few months. but i totally forgot that i have this card before. Recently i just remember i have this card. but i cannot find this card any more (i have not activate the card yet). what can i do? will i get penalty if i ask for replacement card? do i need to report to police?
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Need some advice. Saw this travelling tip on LonelyPlanet website. When asked what kind of currency to bring to a distant country where the country's currency is not available for exchange locally, it was said:
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Don't bring money!!!

Put everything into either your bank card or credit card (you can actually use your credit card as a bank card and put credit on it). There are ATMs at airports.

When you arrive in each country get out how much you think you need as a big lump sum (it's cheaper that way as you'll only pay one exchange fee which is way smaller than a money exchange) from an ATM.


Can we really 'load up' our credit card account then withdraw the money overseas? I guess if we can, there is no cash advance charge nor daily interest since it's our own available money, yes? Maybe some overseas ATM withdrawal fee...
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QUOTE(Dannyl @ Aug 18 2009, 06:23 PM)
Need some advice.  Saw this travelling tip on LonelyPlanet website.  When asked what kind of currency to bring to a distant country where the country's currency is not available for exchange locally, it was said:

Most people will bring US Dollar. I always have some US Dollar with me whenever i am going overseas, be it to Jakarta or Hong Kong.


QUOTE(Dannyl @ Aug 18 2009, 06:23 PM)
Can we really 'load up' our credit card account then withdraw the money overseas?  I guess if we can, there is no cash advance charge nor daily interest since it's our own available money, yes?  Maybe some overseas ATM withdrawal fee...
I think you can do that with VISA debit card and debit Mastercard but not with credit card. Whatever money is drawn from your credit card account will be automatically treated as cash advance.

Did you know that some of your locally issued ATM card such as the CIMB Bank ATM card, which has the "Cirrus" logo on the back can be use to withdraw cash at overseas ATM that is "Cirrus" supported ? Another type of ATM card is on the "Plus" network, which is essentially referring to VISA as "Plus" is actually part of VISA. HSBC regular banking customer's ATM card has the "Plus" logo behind.

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QUOTE(Dannyl @ Aug 18 2009, 06:23 PM)
Need some advice.  Saw this travelling tip on LonelyPlanet website.  When asked what kind of currency to bring to a distant country where the country's currency is not available for exchange locally, it was said:
Can we really 'load up' our credit card account then withdraw the money overseas?  I guess if we can, there is no cash advance charge nor daily interest since it's our own available money, yes?  Maybe some overseas ATM withdrawal fee...
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Just to add to what already been mentioned, I believe loading it up to your ATM is good if the country's banking infrastructure is good. Plus not to mention that the exchange rate @ the ATM is probably better than your money changer back home. I can personally vouch for this.

However there will be cases where you have no option but to carry loads of cash simply because the banking system on the other side is bad / minimal or even they simply do not accept credit card. Eg. Try to do some travelling to Myanmmar or to some parts of the old Russian Republic and you'll see what I mean.

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Wahaha .. I received a 2 call from Citibank Agent,too bad , both of them don't wanna layan me because my basic salary not meet their requirement. So sad,gonna go HSBC tower and ask then ~
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QUOTE(WhiteWing @ Aug 18 2009, 11:17 PM)
Wahaha .. I received a 2 call from Citibank Agent,too bad , both of them don't wanna layan me because my basic salary not meet their requirement. So sad,gonna go HSBC tower and ask then ~
Huh ? Your annual gross salary is less than RM18,000 ? Then you are not qualified for HSBC classic credit card either. In fact, if your annual gross salary is less than RM18,000, then you are not qualified for any credit card in Malaysia.

The other way to get a credit card is to pledge by Time Deposit (Fixed Deposit - FD). Among the banks that offer this are :
- Public Bank (RM10,000 of TD will get RM10,000 of CL)
- AmBank (RM10,000 of TD will get RM10,000 of CL)
- HSBC (RM10,000 of TD will get only RM8,000 of CL)

I think you can also try with RM5000 with local banks.
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QUOTE(MilesAndMore @ Aug 19 2009, 12:31 AM)
Huh ? Your annual gross salary is less than RM18,000 ? Then you are not qualified for HSBC classic credit card either. In fact, if your annual gross salary is less than RM18,000, then you are not qualified for any credit card in Malaysia.

The other way to get a credit card is to pledge by Time Deposit (Fixed Deposit - FD). Among the banks that offer this are :
- Public Bank (RM10,000 of TD will get RM10,000 of CL)
- AmBank  (RM10,000 of TD will get RM10,000 of CL)
- HSBC (RM10,000 of TD will get only RM8,000 of CL)

I think you can also try with RM5000 with local banks.
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Well,my gross salary is more than RM 18,000. If not I won't be holding 3 credit card for 2 bank now. I'm holding 1 CIMB Classic CC and 1 CIMB Petronoas CC and 1 Hong Leong Bank CC. But those sales girl look like don't like me. Say the citibank need ppl basic income around RM 1,500. Last time the HOng Leong Bank staff also told me the same thing but I straight went to the HQ and do it. Wahah .. it done .. Think I have to go Citibank HQ to have a look if I really want their card biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(WhiteWing @ Aug 19 2009, 12:58 AM)
Well,my gross salary is more than RM 18,000. If not I won't be holding 3 credit card for 2 bank now. I'm holding 1 CIMB Classic CC and 1 CIMB Petronoas CC and 1 Hong Leong Bank CC.

Wah !! You have a lot of plastics !! Why do you need more, if you don't mind me asking ? blush.gif


QUOTE(WhiteWing @ Aug 19 2009, 12:58 AM)
But those sales girl look like don't like me. Say the citibank need ppl basic income around RM 1,500. Last time the HOng Leong Bank staff also told me the same thing but I straight went to the HQ and do it. Wahah .. it done .. Think I have to go Citibank HQ to have a look if I really want their card biggrin.gif
Yeah. Just try it at their HQ if you really want their credit card.


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