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 Micro Four Third (m43) User Thread V1, Panasonic G/GH/GFx & Olympus E-P/E-PLx

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post Jul 14 2009, 10:45 AM

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QUOTE(stringfellow @ Jul 13 2009, 10:10 PM)
Malu lah. I dont want to bring out the trolls. Private exhibition perhaps? I'll pass you the password to the gallery later. Need more pointers from you also. notworthy.gif
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Requesting for some low-light pics with the e-p1.
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post Jul 14 2009, 11:08 AM

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I have not much doubts on low light photos capabilities of E-P1, instead i worry about the AF performance at low light, especially without assist lamp
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post Jul 14 2009, 11:23 AM

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lowlight AF? get LX3
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QUOTE(hellfire8888 @ Jul 14 2009, 11:23 AM)
lowlight AF? get LX3
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Got good meh???
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post Jul 14 2009, 12:18 PM

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QUOTE(KittyKat @ Jul 14 2009, 11:35 AM)
Got good meh???
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currently the best compact camera sweat.gif
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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Jul 14 2009, 12:18 PM)
currently the best compact camera  sweat.gif
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In some sense yes, but in some other sense, not really leh. The AF isnt that perky, especially under poor lighting, IMHO lar...

Tried the E-P1 yesterday also, quite impressed with it. AF quite fast, completely usable up to ISO1600 if not pixel peeping. Operation's quite slow though and not very used to its interface. But one thing's that the silver body very "bling-bling" leh. Mnayak action one if found using it.
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QUOTE(KittyKat @ Jul 14 2009, 12:39 PM)
In some sense yes, but in some other sense, not really leh. The AF isnt that perky, especially under poor lighting, IMHO lar...

Tried the E-P1 yesterday also, quite impressed with it. AF quite fast, completely usable up to ISO1600 if not pixel peeping. Operation's quite slow though and not very used to its interface. But one thing's that the silver body very "bling-bling" leh. Mnayak action one if found using it.
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wah, if E-P1 AF is as good or better than LX3, then E-P1 is good enough for casual shooter who demand
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post Jul 14 2009, 01:49 PM

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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Jul 14 2009, 12:55 PM)
wah, if E-P1 AF is as good or better than LX3, then E-P1 is good enough for casual shooter who demand
control, IQ and DOF.  rclxms.gif
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Big/bulky also leh, for casual shooting. But small and awkward at the same time when talking about handling its zoom lens.
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QUOTE(KittyKat @ Jul 14 2009, 01:49 PM)
Big/bulky also leh, for casual shooting. But small and awkward at the same time when talking about handling its zoom lens.
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true la. hopefully e-p2 will be even smaller and come with built in flash
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post Jul 14 2009, 02:06 PM

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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Jul 14 2009, 01:54 PM)
true la. hopefully e-p2 will be even smaller and come with built in flash
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unless they can miniaturize the focusing motor, the anti-dust cleaning system, the circuitry, also in an odd way fit a big enough capacitor for the flash that they have in a normal dslr - i think the e-p1 is the smallest they can do it with the technology today.

And if you counter with ' the small cameras got flash what' - remember, the smaller cameras have smaller sensors, so they have more space to stuff inside in their tiny body for a tiny flash
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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Jul 14 2009, 01:54 PM)
true la. hopefully e-p2 will be even smaller and come with built in flash
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But smaller also difficult wor, with such tiny M.Zuiko lens. Tried it... As right hand gripping the body and left hand zoom'ing the small lens, like funny funny feeling one. If shoot with prime should be better lar, at least can like conventional PnS cam.
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post Jul 14 2009, 03:48 PM

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I am thankful that I am not predisposed with the previous experiences using DSLRs and about the transition between the different sizes. My take is that Im more inclined to carry lighter, smaller equipments than bulkier ones. My non-experience on how DSLR pictures and their quality looks like also keeps my expectation low. I'd like to keep it that way.

I'm moving up from PnS so size is basically an easy transition by the way. No chimneys or laser cannons on my chest, no thanks.
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post Jul 14 2009, 03:49 PM

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so how many owner here already..so much hype and yet so lil ppl buy it..
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post Jul 14 2009, 03:57 PM

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QUOTE(stringfellow @ Jul 14 2009, 03:48 PM)
I am thankful that I am not predisposed with the previous experiences using DSLRs and about the transition between the different sizes. My take is that Im more inclined to carry lighter, smaller equipments than bulkier ones. My non-experience on how DSLR pictures and their quality looks like also keeps my expectation low. I'd like to keep it that way.

I'm moving up from PnS so size is basically an easy transition by the way. No chimneys or laser cannons on my chest, no thanks.
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But don't u think it much larger than PnS since u said u only exposed to PnS only prior to this.

QUOTE(hellfire8888 @ Jul 14 2009, 03:49 PM)
so how many owner here already..so much hype and yet so lil ppl buy it..
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still deciding a G1 or this laugh.gif
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Me. *puts money where mouth is*

Another member here also have, just that he don't spend much time in this section. I don't blame him. Learning from him, we're cross-poisoning each other, he poisoned me to finally get into photography, and I just made him purchase his own iPhone 3G[S]. Balances out. tongue.gif

We both have the twin lens kit, his is the silver with black accent, mine is white with tan accent. In addition, i've just got the Panny 45-200mm for my aircraft-in-flight photo-taking opportunities. I've just missed that very chance on my last trip to Paris, when an SQ A380 is cruising below us and I had a clear shot but the 14-42mm lens fall shot of being able to capture the A380 with vaportrail and vortices billowing behind it. Not anymore hopefully, with the 45-200mm.


Added on July 14, 2009, 4:11 pm
QUOTE(harrychoo @ Jul 14 2009, 03:57 PM)
But don't u think it much larger than PnS since u said u only exposed to PnS only prior to this.
still deciding a G1 or this  laugh.gif
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My previous PnS is not that slim anyway. My required "getting the hang of" thing is with the addition of interchangable lens, or the fact that I can fiddle with the zoom/focus manually and physically with the rings, something that had been handled automatically on my previous PnS.

This post has been edited by stringfellow: Jul 14 2009, 04:11 PM
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QUOTE(stringfellow @ Jul 14 2009, 04:06 PM)
Me. *puts money where mouth is*

Another member here also have, just that he don't spend much time in this section. I don't blame him. Learning from him, we're cross-poisoning each other, he poisoned me to finally get into photography, and I just made him purchase his own iPhone 3G[S]. Balances out. tongue.gif

We both have the twin lens kit, his is the silver with black accent, mine is white with tan accent. In addition, i've just got the Panny 45-200mm for my aircraft-in-flight photo-taking opportunities. I've just missed that very chance on my last trip to Paris, when an SQ A380 is cruising below us and I had a clear shot but the 14-42mm lens fall shot of being able to capture the A380 with vaportrail and vortices billowing behind it. Not anymore hopefully, with the 45-200mm.


Added on July 14, 2009, 4:11 pm

My previous PnS is not that slim anyway. My required "getting the hang of" thing is with the addition of interchangable lens, or the fact that I can fiddle with the zoom/focus manually and physically with the rings, something that had been handled automatically on my previous PnS.
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Makes me wanna jump onto this band-wagon as well. But i'll wait and try to be loyal to Panasonic, i hope. Hahaha...
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post Jul 14 2009, 05:07 PM

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laugh.gif Just now someone PM wanna buy E-P1 from me.

Anyway, a lot of good thing being said about E-P1:
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat...thread=32394350

But I think a lot of people not jumping in because its quite pricey and most of the people who wants a dSLR still think only Canikon can produce great IQ.
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post Jul 14 2009, 05:10 PM

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i still think ep-1 somehow stuck in the middle like...not compact than a compact camera and not up to the performance of dslr. well it could be a different way on how u look at it...just my 2cents
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I would it's able to par DSLR (at least to some extend). With its size, it's remarkable actually. Just that as Gogo2 pointed out, its kinda pricey. With that price-tag, anyone can get her/himself some bazooka to mount on them for sime tanks, aeroplanes, birds, scenery, models shooting. Why such weird not a PnS but not a DSLR??? I wouldnt mind owning it though...
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Because it is not a given, it is not a norm. When that happen, the general populace plays it safe by sticking with the safer option:DSLR.

Believe it or not, there are those like me who abhorred and loathe the size of the DSLR, and wants something smaller. There are those who are in the same camp as I am but because of time constraint and pressing need, relented and bedrudgingly went with DSLR because that was the only option available at that time. Those of us who waited for the right form factor to come in, finally get our wish with the E-P1. Those who were in the same camp but went DSLR, there are those who, believe it or not, got their DSLR sold off and went with the E-P1. Our needs was not that much demanding that we needed the DSLR in the first place, just that the step-up after PnS was DSLR and there weren't any other options to choose from there.

The same with camcorders. I wanted a HD camcorder but not with the current hold-it-by-the-barrel monstrosity models in the market, I want something mobile yet with not many sacrifices in terms of performance and quality of the recording result. Enter Xacti HD1010 pistol-grip HD camcorder.

My take? As what I've stated on my sig, get it based on your needs, not just because everyone else picks a model that you have to pick the same model to be on the safe side. I never was a sheep when it comes to my purchasing habits, because my needs are exclusively unique to what I plan to do with these purchases.

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