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noblesse
post Dec 4 2011, 03:51 PM

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QUOTE(camel90 @ Dec 3 2011, 06:55 PM)
congrats bro! welcome to the club and hope you enjoy your car! it's not perfect but cherish her and she will not disappoint you  nod.gif
right, have anyone have experienced join any sepang track day before ? (not necessarily with viva). i'm thinking to join with my viva. hurmm..
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keep me updated on the sepang thing. would love to join as well smile.gif
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post Dec 4 2011, 08:18 PM

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QUOTE(noblesse @ Dec 4 2011, 03:51 PM)
keep me updated on the sepang thing. would love to join as well smile.gif
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got one on 18th december (checked at sepang website). my friend is going with his dad (neo R3 and their neo clubsport). he asked me too, but malu lah with my viva. hurmm..still thinking.
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post Dec 5 2011, 07:25 PM

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My gf just ordered ViVa Elite solid white today, waiting for the stock to reach the showroom at 12th December. Ho ho cant wait. tongue.gif
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post Dec 5 2011, 11:26 PM

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QUOTE(camel90 @ Dec 4 2011, 06:18 AM)
got one on 18th december (checked at sepang website). my friend is going with his dad (neo R3 and their neo clubsport). he asked me too, but malu lah with my viva. hurmm..still thinking.
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dude...if ur in i am in too... i might bring my viva or ill bring my other weapon.. haha.. ill bring the "S"..
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post Dec 6 2011, 08:16 AM

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:: sorry bro for super duper noob question,air filter and aircon filter is a same thing?
what is the best brand for viva and price?
i saw theres two type.square and big circle.any different?
thanks notworthy.gif
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post Dec 6 2011, 08:29 AM

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QUOTE(Dreadsic @ Dec 6 2011, 08:16 AM)
:: sorry bro for super duper noob question,air filter and aircon filter is a same thing?
what is the best brand for viva and price?
i saw theres two type.square and big circle.any different?
thanks notworthy.gif
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Air filter = filter the air before entering the engine (on top of the engine)

Aircon filter = filter the air before entering the aircon vent (inside the car, below the glove compartment)
camel90
post Dec 6 2011, 12:05 PM

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QUOTE(Dreadsic @ Dec 6 2011, 08:16 AM)
:: sorry bro for super duper noob question,air filter and aircon filter is a same thing?
what is the best brand for viva and price?
i saw theres two type.square and big circle.any different?
thanks notworthy.gif
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air filter and aircond filter are not the same. as stated below by our fellow friend smile.gif
QUOTE(11768 @ Dec 6 2011, 08:29 AM)
Air filter = filter the air before entering the engine (on top of the engine)

Aircon filter = filter the air before entering the aircon vent (inside the car, below the glove compartment)
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anyway, the different for AIR FILTER between the square and big circle are as follows :

square
-we call it drop in type. (Drop-In air filter)
-this is the direct replacement for our standard air filter.
-no need modification or anything
-plug and play
-not as aggresive as the open pod air filter but you will not lose top speed (rumours)

big circle
-we call it open pod air filter
-this is not the direct replacement for our standard air filter, it requires some modification to install it. but, any good accesories shop/workshop can do it
-it is not plug and play
-the pickup/acceleration is better than drop in and obviously better than stock. peple said we will lose a little top speed as compared to drop in air filter.

*i said 'people said' because i have not try or experience the differences wink.gif


open pod airfilter
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picture courtesy of NAGA MOTORSPORT

drop in air filter
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picture courtesy of Lelong

hope that helps. i'm a noob as well sweat.gif
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post Dec 6 2011, 03:11 PM

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:: thanks bro 11768 and camel90.so what brand drop in air filter are good performance? mybe can list two
or three brand.are viva oredi comes with these thing? biggrin.gif

so before move to other modification,what parts is in category "must buy" ?
noblesse
post Dec 6 2011, 08:10 PM

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not necessary bro. drop in filter suitable for auto transmission - better pickup and acceleration..
does not affect top end power or what so ever.. same as stock filter, also consider drop in.. no difference for top end power be it using normal paper filter or aftermarket filter..

open pod if use on auto transmission will lose abit of low end pickup, but for top end good..

open pod more suited for manual trans as they can play with gear changes..

^ judgement based on my butt dyno brows.gif

anyways,
all these got something to do with amt of air being sucked in and combust + released from the exhaust..
kinda complicated and difficult to explain.. gotta go google to find out.

similar to the concept of auto using s-flow and manual using straight flow..
something like that, read somewhere bfor but forgotten the reason behind it.

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for air filter i recommend simota/works (same thing, just rebrand only) viva drop in filter..
good enough air flow and yet not comprimising filtration power.. no point using filter if it doesnt function to filter the dirty air, might as well buang the whole filter haha! any other brands also can as long as suits your budget and your preference.. dont expect increment of 5-10% horsepower as claimed by most ppl out there though.. all marketing bullsh*t only. if its true, i remove my filter box long ago already, can gain so much power! notworthy.gif

anyways, its easy to maintain as well, just spray and rinse with water. then u can either let it dry under the sun, or air dry it.
do it which ever way u prefer. for me i clean it every 2-3 months
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post Dec 6 2011, 09:32 PM

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QUOTE(noblesse @ Dec 6 2011, 08:10 PM)
not necessary bro. drop in filter suitable for auto transmission - better pickup and acceleration..
does not affect top end power or what so ever.. same as stock filter, also consider drop in.. no difference for top end power be it using normal paper filter or aftermarket filter..

open pod if use on auto transmission will lose abit of low end pickup, but for top end good..

open pod more suited for manual trans as they can play with gear changes..

^ judgement based on my butt dyno  brows.gif

anyways,
all these got something to do with amt of air being sucked in and combust + released from the exhaust..
kinda complicated and difficult to explain.. gotta go google to find out.

similar to the concept of auto using s-flow and manual using straight flow..
something like that, read somewhere bfor but forgotten the reason behind it.

_____________________________________________________________________________________

for air filter i recommend simota/works (same thing, just rebrand only) viva drop in filter..
good enough air flow and yet not comprimising filtration power.. no point using filter if it doesnt function to filter the dirty air, might as well buang the whole filter haha! any other brands also can as long as suits your budget and your preference.. dont expect increment of 5-10% horsepower as claimed by most ppl out there though.. all marketing bullsh*t only. if its true, i remove my filter box long ago already, can gain so much power!  notworthy.gif

anyways, its easy to maintain as well, just spray and rinse with water. then u can either let it dry under the sun, or air dry it.
do it which ever way u prefer. for me i clean it every 2-3 months
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finally sifoo has spoken. you can refer to this statement about power increment. clearly i was way off track about that shakehead.gif


sorry for misunderstanding bro Dreadsic. hehe.



This post has been edited by camel90: Dec 6 2011, 09:34 PM
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post Dec 6 2011, 11:08 PM

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QUOTE(camel90 @ Dec 6 2011, 09:32 PM)
finally sifoo has spoken. you can refer to this statement about power increment. clearly i was way off track about that  shakehead.gif
sorry for misunderstanding bro Dreadsic. hehe.
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no la, where got sifoo sifoo man. just sharing what i know only. i may be wrong also ma! haha

basically for auto, just use a good drop in filter.. u can nvr go wrong.
can basically last u the whole life time of your car if its well taken care of. can also opt for CAI (cold air intake) for a slight better performance.. can google more info about it.

just make sure dont do the CAI opening too low on the bumper, higher risk of sucking water into your engine during heavy rain.

optimal CAI design is preferably shorter route and avoid large/high angle bends (e.g: 90 degree bends)
for viva i did mine previously straight from the airbox to the bumper grill beside the perodua logo (for viva elite bumper). minimal bends and at the same height as the airbox inlet.

currently got no CAI coz the lousy aluminium CAI broke off.. lazy to fix a new one haha

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post Dec 7 2011, 06:22 AM

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QUOTE(noblesse @ Dec 6 2011, 11:08 PM)
no la, where got sifoo sifoo man. just sharing what i know only. i may be wrong also ma! haha

basically for auto, just use a good drop in filter.. u can nvr go wrong.
can basically last u the whole life time of your car if its well taken care of. can also opt for CAI (cold air intake) for a slight better performance.. can google more info about it.

just make sure dont do the CAI opening too low on the bumper, higher risk of sucking water into your engine during heavy rain.

optimal CAI design is preferably shorter route and avoid large/high angle bends (e.g: 90 degree bends)
for viva i did mine previously straight from the airbox to the bumper grill beside the perodua logo (for viva elite bumper). minimal bends and at the same height as the airbox inlet.

currently got no CAI coz the lousy aluminium CAI broke off.. lazy to fix a new one haha
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yeap. always got my eye on CAI and drop in. i don't have budget yet. oh sifoo, i PMed you something smile.gif
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post Dec 7 2011, 04:34 PM

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:: thanks for good explaination notworthy.gif
so viva also comes with stock drop in air filter?
no need to buy la? biggrin.gif

:: what others part must install to perform better handling,improve perfomance? sturt bar?
anything else?
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post Dec 7 2011, 11:11 PM

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just a quick update. upgraded suspension system today.
out goes my trusty myvi HWL H-L coilovers, make way for RS*R high-low soft-hard coilovers with Ti2000 springs, comes with topmount.

manage to fit the front sets today, rear sets doesnt seat properly, need to make some minor adjustments as this coilover is made for passo/boon/myvi.

total 36-clicks on soft hard damping (dont ask me why so many.. i also got a shock, usually 32-steps damping only). currently on 30 clicks towards Hard. will test it out for a few days before fine tuning..

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post Dec 8 2011, 11:28 AM

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What brand of spring do you recommend? APM or GAB? I want to pair them with my stock absorber for a while before upgrade the absorber as well later early next year.
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post Dec 8 2011, 11:35 AM

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You ppl mod VIva until like this smile.gif
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post Dec 8 2011, 11:45 AM

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QUOTE(camel90 @ Dec 8 2011, 11:28 AM)
What brand of spring do you recommend? APM or GAB? I want to pair them with my stock absorber for a while before upgrade the absorber as well later early next year.
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u can try gab. i've previously used it before. good performance + comfort
u would probably need to use the spring buffers for the rear springs if your rear tyres hit the fender


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QUOTE(WhiteWing @ Dec 8 2011, 11:35 AM)
You ppl mod VIva until like this smile.gif
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what to do, hobby kills haha!
would post a pic here when i get everything plugged in smile.gif

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post Dec 8 2011, 11:50 AM

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Just got my Viva around 2 weeks. Still trying to get used to it.
What are the things you guys normally mod on your Viva? I was thinking firstly the soundproofing, then the VR, spark plu change to iridium (when next service), later only the spring and absorber (all these depends on budget got or not)



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post Dec 8 2011, 12:36 PM

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QUOTE(noblesse @ Dec 8 2011, 11:45 AM)
u can try gab. i've previously used it before. good performance + comfort
u would probably need to use the spring buffers for the rear springs if your rear tyres hit the fender


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what to do, hobby kills haha!
would post a pic here when i get everything plugged in smile.gif
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Even with GAB spring, the rear tyres will hit the fender still?
Now with stock spring and stock absorber, the rear tyres are fine unless i bring 3 people on rear seats.
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post Dec 8 2011, 01:09 PM

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QUOTE(camel90 @ Dec 8 2011, 12:36 PM)
Even with GAB spring, the rear tyres will hit the fender still?
Now with stock spring and stock absorber, the rear tyres are fine unless i bring 3 people on rear seats.
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definately will hit even with coilovers.
it all depends on your ride height and fender gap. smaller fender gap, higher chances of hitting fender.
if u want to fully avoid, change to 6jj rims, or ketuk fender as bro iylas shared in a few post back


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QUOTE(pingpang @ Dec 8 2011, 11:50 AM)
Just got my Viva around 2 weeks. Still trying to get used to it.
What are the things you guys normally mod on your Viva? I was thinking firstly the soundproofing, then the VR, spark plu change to iridium (when next service), later only the spring and absorber (all these depends on budget got or not)
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hi there. congrats on being a viva owner!
well, best is to get used to the car first before modding.
it took me around 6 months-1 year to 'feel' the car and make necessary mods to suit my needs.
better to know your car first before modding, will help in a long run..

soundproof would be a great option on viva as our viva is known for being a milo tin.
u can try the basic 4 doors + roof sound proofing first before going for a more tedious fender + front & rear bonnet sound proofing.

This post has been edited by noblesse: Dec 8 2011, 01:12 PM

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