No, you'd get me wrong bro. those things that i was talking about bearing etc2 are not necessary to change to PREVENT HITTING FENDER.

if you want to use 15' rims, here are the spec that i suggest so that you CAN just plug and play :

1. make sure the rim is 15'x6.5jj. if it's 15'x7jj and above, it WILL hit the fender.
2. make sure the offset is 38. that offset is just 'ngam ngam' for viva
3. make sure the tire size is 165/50/R15. you can use 175/50/R15, but for FRONT only. if you use 175/50/R15 for the rears, it will hit the fender or the absorber on the inside.

do bear in mind, even if you use all of the specs above, the rear tyres WILL STILL hit the rear fenders if your car is on the full load. eg:2 person at the front including driver+3person at the back.

HOWEVER, if you have the money and you want to change the full suspension setup (spring+absorber) to aftermarket or adjustable etc3, you can just forget about any of the above. because i believe the tyres will not hit the fender due to the stiffer suspension.

ps : about the wheel bearings that i was talking about, since your car is new, just use the stock bearings as long as it can survive. once it kaput, then you change . wheel bearings are easier to damaged especially if you use stock bearings because the mass rotation of the bigger wheels are higher.

This post has been edited by camel90: Nov 4 2011, 05:04 PM

:: now i like this statement
how much $$ range for full aftermarket suspension setup? i think this is my first or second aim
after get my car (they said after raya).coz really dont like 13" with rim cap

I'm not sure how much will it cost you for the full suspension setup.

However, i do know that it will cost you roughly around RM1400-1600 for a full set of new TAIWAN made 15' sport rims+tyres+allignment. with that being said, it depends on your rim choice, tyre choice, and of course whether or not you need the center cone (i don't install it but i do notice slight vibration on high speed run due to the tyres without center cone).

But, i say if you have roughly an extra RM1000 to spare for the suspension setup, you can get a sport spring+heavy duty sport absorber . not the adjustable type of course since those adjustable goodies will easily cost about RM1400 or more.

it depends on the type of suspension that your looking at... semi adjustable.. fully adjustable... sports abs..

just a rough picture

fully adj - can cost from 2.4 - 3k

semi adj - 900 - 1.4k

sports - 450 - 700

this is not a exact figure.. tho..

but u also an fit the aftermarket suspension from a myvi to our viva..

to avoid from the fenders touching with tires while on heavy load.. you need to ketuk the fender a bit.. i havent ketuk mine yet.. as i dont have the time.. i was told tu ketuk fender belakang kiri kanan its around 40-80.. not more.. unless the Paint falls down... and dont ever grind the fender.. as it will cause tire burst as sharp edges...

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Added on November 5, 2011, 5:08 amjust change my suspension front and back... still the same.. touching..stressful but with heavier load.. last time 3 org dh sagat.. now 4 ppl baru sagat... 3 ppl ok lagi... sbb my passenger semua HEAVY WEIGHT k70... not k45.. sure ok lagi...

This post has been edited by ilyas_jamal: Nov 6 2011, 08:23 PM

bugger. racun suruh orang beli jugak la tu! hahahahhahahaha

u take mine.. i close one eye...i am getting another one...1week bro.. super cheap..haha.. call me..

i am planning going for full flush..haha.. baru syiok..

aiyoyoyoyo! susah la ini macammm. hahahha. i like the offer, no kidding. but danggg!!! no money! i want a new helmet for endurance and also for the new season next year. K1 125cc yo! hahahha

:: moneh here moneh there
let says im throw rm500 for beginning.what should i get first?
lowed spring or?


another question

:: what happen if i buy 14" sport rim + ori abs,spring viva,full load?

:: and what happen if i buy 15" sport rim + ori abs,spring viva,full load?

This post has been edited by Dreadsic: Nov 6 2011, 04:32 PM

aku pun main K1 next year... but back pack la.. nk kejar dorg tu susah sikit..

but if kau berminat let me know.. haha.. for u.. we can kaw team..

hehehe..

but helmet kau beli dgn aku ajer... ke kau nk arai jugak..

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Added on November 6, 2011, 8:21 pmstock viva + full load = OK..

14" (lets take it as 6jj) + stock abs + stock springs = Rear wheel fender sagat...

same goes to 15" (6jj)..

unless if dh ketuk the fender its should be ok..

if u are interested in sport springs..i do have a VIVA GAB Sport Spring (used) to let go.. as i just changes to adjustable.. PM me if u are interested... going cheap..PM ME

This post has been edited by ilyas_jamal: Nov 6 2011, 08:21 PM

where to ketuk ketuk rm40-80 bucks? i wanna do mine..

our viva fender cant be rolled as it is V shape. not U shape.. they can only roll U shape.
im looking for place to ketuk fender to make it kembang abit, without paint chipping.
my current rims 7JJ offset +26, poking like mad. wanna make it flush

wheres ur location.. i just did mine this morning... 55 bucks for all 4 fenders...at kota serimas sepang...but paint peeling may occur..also at our fenders we do have some sort of silicone lining around the fender.. that will terkopek.. but no harm..

anyways.. mine the paint terkopek sikit..very minimal..not that visible.. but i am planning to give my car a new paint job..so ok la..

stick with it for a while..

i think any paint shop will do at the same price.. ask around...

:: so for now just change to sport spring slebihnya use stock right?
ill see first when my viva dah sampai

This post has been edited by Dreadsic: Nov 8 2011, 03:33 AM

I'll take with you lah bro. Arai xde contact. your products bole member price

Viva sifoos are discussing wehhh!


cheapest yet useable solution, yes. change to sport spring and when the stock absorber kaput, then change to better absorber.

bear in mind, sport spring+stock absorber WILL make your stock absorber kaput faster due to stiffer spring.

really? how faster bro? a year? so what ur suggestion?
what part must get first? im just wanna use 14 o 15" + lowed abit with no problem on full load.
but will buy it step by step

:: i see so many rim under 1k.sumtimes with no name,sumetimes bbs,etc (not ori?)
how their performance? izzit safe? any huge diff with expensive one??

i recommend for you to stay with 14".. as what i did.. if changing to 15" it does looks nice..but bearing surely will kaput faster... (ask camel_90)

for rims is hard to tell based on the price.. but if ur keen looking for used imported rims.. ill can give u contact for the shop where i bought my rims.. or i also might help to snap few pictures later tomorrow as ill be going there to do balancing and alignment .. they have few of options.. from 13" - 15" with pcd 100... Black Racing , Works Mesh, Rays, Watanabay, Snow.. ect...

in terms of performance...

Taiwan VS Japan

heavy...Light
Once bengkok hard to repair...can repair
murah...kinda pricy
low 2nd hand value..good 2nd value

thats what i can share..based on what i know... but to those who has more knowledge.. please do share..


for me what part u need to get first is depends on what you want.. looks? performance?

:: this will b my 1st car,1st experiance,1st of anything.thats why want to choose only good item for longer
usage.as 14",oso looks cun if lowered sikit as long not hit anythin.

too bad bro,im at sbh,mybe limited choise of rim . looks,performance,can i get both?
if possible,wanna buy one by one part.
btween rim or sport spring or abs.what must come first.

let say use 14" sport rim + stock spring + stock abs = result?
use stock rim + sport spring + stock abs = stock absorber kaput faster due to stiffer spring (as bro camel90 says)
use stock rim + stock spring + aftermarket abs = result?

I'm using sport rims with stocks spring and stocks abs also feel nothing , why keep say got problem ?

just go with sport rim first bro and keep spare cash behind. if the car is okay (no touching fender), then you can invest on anything you like. but, if the car is touching fender under the full load after you install sport rim, then you have no other choice but to install sport spring (at least) or combo with absorber. unless you wana be like me.

i'm using 15x6.5jj (165/50/R15 rears) , (175/50/R15) fronts), changed to aftermarket wheel bearing but using stock spring and stock absorber. under heavy load of course touching fender. but since i'm travelling alone or with gf most of the time, it does not caused me any problem. or, under full load when i took a bunch of friends for lunch or something, i just drove awfully slow on uneven roads, and road bumps


problem from sport rims i've faced so far :
touching fender under heavy load
wheel bearing will kaput faster due to heavier rotation mass

This post has been edited by camel90: Nov 9 2011, 03:21 PM

So far I never encounter any problem ~! If got also I can point the finger at perodua ~ free warranty up to 6 years

why not? 15" for good looks, feather weight japan rims for performance. then pump up your engine performance. u're good to go