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TSpresario9
post Jun 3 2009, 07:03 AM, updated 17y ago

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Hello,

Can some one help me identify clearly what type of weight training that is very effective for fat loss purpose. or in the other word, for cutting. I googled it before, and found no concrete answer. At this point, the weight training of less weight and more reps is the most popular workout type for cutting. But is it really that effective?? Can anyone help me to explain about it in more detail. any link or website is also sangat-sangat di alukan. I bet many other people also have the same problem like me when they decide to workout for cutting.

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post Jun 3 2009, 07:06 AM

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It's all about the diet.


Added on June 3, 2009, 7:07 amBy experience, any workout can be tweaked to fat loss goals, all you need to do is sort out the diet so you can gear your workout to bulking or cutting.

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post Jun 3 2009, 07:09 AM

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So there is really no different type of workout for cutting? U just only need to reduce your diet for the cutting phase. Thanks mofonyx.
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post Jun 3 2009, 07:53 AM

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it's better to do cardio then to reduce your food intake. It is said high reps training cuts more of your fat.
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post Jun 3 2009, 08:59 AM

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QUOTE(kurtkob78 @ Jun 3 2009, 08:53 AM)
it's better to do cardio then to reduce your food intake. It is said high reps training cuts more of your fat.
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I have to cross that statement right out the window. If you could provide solid evidence that the first half of your post is true, i'd take it back.



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post Jun 3 2009, 08:59 AM

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Diet and cardio to create calorie deficit to lose weight fast. Doing weights(compound exercise) can achieve fat loss too but it'll take a longer time, with the side effect of adding muscles as well.
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post Jun 3 2009, 09:25 AM

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You won't be getting rid of all the fats in a short period of time. Some people may be able to do it, but you see how much muscles they've lost, and they look damn skinny. If they want to get bulky again, not easy.

After you cut, then you get bulky again, then you cut again. Just maintain some fats to get bulky, but not too much of fats. After you cut, just make sure you bf% around 20%. Then you stop cutting, gain more muscles, then cut again till 15% or lower (if you want six pack). But 15% to me is good enough.
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QUOTE(shanecross @ Jun 3 2009, 08:59 AM)
I have to cross that statement right out the window. If you could provide solid evidence that the first half of your post is true, i'd take it back.
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which one ? The high reps ? I think it's logical, the higher the reps, the more it is close to cardio. Like doing bench press with light dumbell for 25-50 times. I've read somewhere about this if not mistaken. No time to search right now

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post Jun 3 2009, 09:55 AM

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I read in Esquire magazine that to lose fat, you alternate within one workout between cardio and weightlifting. Cadio-weight-cardio-weight like that.

For me personally, the model I plan to use is to continue doing Rippetoe's program but without increasing the weights while cutting down on calories. Hopefully this will preserve my muscles while I lose the fat.
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post Jun 3 2009, 10:04 AM

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if you want to preserve or reduce the muscle breakdown, eat enough protein maybe up to 1.8 x b.weight in kg. and ead 500kcal below your maintainance and 1800kcal min for a guy, you should lose some weight. Fat or maybe a little muscle.

I'm practising weight-cardio-weight cardio. Trying to clean bulk

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post Jun 3 2009, 10:22 AM

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QUOTE(Gr3yL3gion @ Jun 3 2009, 08:59 AM)
Diet and cardio to create calorie deficit to lose weight fast. Doing weights(compound exercise) can achieve fat loss too but it'll take a longer time, with the side effect of adding muscles as well.
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I would contest that statement, with myself as proof and a lot of my friends as proof, but just can't be bothered to.

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QUOTE(kurtkob78 @ Jun 3 2009, 10:32 AM)
which one ? The high reps ? I think it's logical, the higher the reps, the more it is close to cardio. Like doing bench press with light dumbell for 25-50 times. I've read somewhere about this if not mistaken. No time to search right now
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Read my post again. I said the first half of your post.
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QUOTE(pizzaboy @ Jun 3 2009, 10:22 AM)
I would contest that statement, with myself as proof and a lot of my friends as proof, but just can't be bothered to.
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I hope what you're saying is true though, coz Imma doing weight most and can't be bothered with cardio much, heh.
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yes, if you have to choose between exercise or diet to lose fat, then it's better to do exercise. if you restrict your diet, then your metabolism drops and you need to lower your food consumption further. Furthermore, diet will cause starvation which will try hold to your fat storage. Exercise increase your metabolism and it wont cause this starvation effect. I've read this from an ebook. I will post more of it here. but, If got new research about this, please correct me.

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post Jun 3 2009, 10:40 AM

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QUOTE(Gr3yL3gion @ Jun 3 2009, 10:37 AM)
I hope what you're saying is true though, coz Imma doing weight most and can't be bothered with cardio much, heh.
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Try 20 rep squats and tell me you don't grow muscle and burn fat. I'll buy you a bag of crickets from Thailand.
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QUOTE(pizzaboy @ Jun 3 2009, 10:40 AM)
Try 20 rep squats and tell me you don't grow muscle and burn fat. I'll buy you a bag of crickets from Thailand.
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Ok, I'll try that. biggrin.gif
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post Jun 3 2009, 12:33 PM

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i can testify, yes... doings weights alone will burn ur fats.
i started off 93kg.
in 3 weeks time, i am at 85kg.
i do not diet at all and never did any cardio.
purely lifting weights in the gym.
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QUOTE(zeist @ Jun 3 2009, 09:25 AM)
You won't be getting rid of all the fats in a short period of time. Some people may be able to do it, but you see how much muscles they've lost, and they look damn skinny. If they want to get bulky again, not easy.

After you cut, then you get bulky again, then you cut again. Just maintain some fats to get bulky, but not too much of fats. After you cut, just make sure you bf% around 20%. Then you stop cutting, gain more muscles, then cut again till 15% or lower (if you want six pack). But 15% to me is good enough.
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Why must you always spew such complicated crap? I don't get what you're trying to say?
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post Jun 3 2009, 01:51 PM

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speaking from my experience, any weight training will do...just make sure, you take proper meals first...take care of that, you'll progress nicely...and don't forget cardio...just my 2 cents...
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QUOTE(pizzaboy @ Jun 3 2009, 10:40 AM)
Try 20 rep squats and tell me you don't grow muscle and burn fat. I'll buy you a bag of crickets from Thailand.
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seriously you need to buy me a bag of crickets. tongue.gif

as i dont see any improvement XD. but my training is inconsistent when i reach 82.5kg squat

but seriously i've gained alot more than that in mentality, i know how to push myself over the limit.

try it and you know what am i talking about.



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