not automatically "now". I know some malaysian babies (both parent PR) have not get their PR >6 months after application date.

MY birth cert is to annouce = You are a Malaysian. That it the official document of your ID.

There's actually a technical reason to this, it has been measured that the forum database server (mysql) a proportionally longer time to show you the last 10 posts of a 2500-post thread compared to a 5000-post thread as it needs to generate the whole result set and discard the first N-10 posts. On a micro level the extra processing is tiny, but on a macro level consider that we get more than a million thread views daily, and there are threads stretching into double-digit versions. So we've arbitrarily imposed a limit of 2500 posts (which we feel is pretty large) and it's become part of our culture.

After having said all that, I will be happy if a volunteer can start a new thread soon

Only a non-technical fella wouldnt understand the complexity of an ever increasing database, and the risk that comes with it.

By automatically, I mean there are no additional conditions apart from the minor dependent relationship, to get the PR. I've never heard of a child not getting dependent PR status.


The birth cert just means you were born in Malaysia, not that you are Malaysian. It's the "warna kad pengenalan ibu bapa" which will ultimately decide if you get a warganegara blue IC and Malaysian passport.

is a new born baby without IC and passport but just a Malaysian birth cert stated "Nationality = Malaysian" officialy a malaysian? I am not talking about the condition how to be a malaysian, just the paper of identity for a baby born outside malaysia.

Would you guys ever consider giving up your citizenship for Singapore?

If i can earn well and get a Singaporean wive which wants me to give up, i will.

Would you guys ever consider giving up your citizenship for Singapore?

There's actually a technical reason to this, it has been measured that the forum database server (mysql) a proportionally longer time to show you the last 10 posts of a 2500-post thread compared to a 5000-post thread as it needs to generate the whole result set and discard the first N-10 posts. On a micro level the extra processing is tiny, but on a macro level consider that we get more than a million thread views daily, and there are threads stretching into double-digit versions. So we've arbitrarily imposed a limit of 2500 posts (which we feel is pretty large) and it's become part of our culture.

After having said all that, I will be happy if a volunteer can start a new thread soon

I have been somewhat stuck in a very niche industry over in SG and it's going to take a miracle for me to relocate back to MY. I'm tired of paying rent and actually contemplated on giving up my citizenship for the sole reason of purchasing a re-sale HDB.

Would I be making a dumb mistake?

crapp0, i really doubt any one in the right mind would want to retire in Singapore. Anyway with the recent increase of employers cpf contribution does anyone fear that end year increments would be slightly affected?

Do the current birth certs state the nationality? To be honest, I haven't seen a birth cert issued less than 20 years ago My birth cert doesn't mention nationality, just the colour of my parents ICs.

If Malaysia keeps getting funnier with its racial and religious rubbish, yes.

But Sean, what is your opinion of the overcrowding situation there?
I dont know if its just me, but I feel its a very packed capital. I do monthly stints there occasionaly. I work at Raffles Place.

You ain't seen Hong Kong, yet my friend. That place is freaking cramped.