If a woman is willing to marry someone who is not as capable as she is, do you think she is insensitive to her partner's need?
What do you think the woman need that man for? She must love him very much.

Why must you cling onto the notion that women MUST marry only men who financially more well off than them?

Because man normally do not want a woman who is more capable than he is.

You open poll and ask the men lah.

Maybe we will see some male leeches.

This post has been edited by barista: May 12 2009, 09:34 PM

This is true for me also, but however if I really like the girl I don't mind and I am willing to throw away my ego, pride and dignity for a girl that I truly love.

And if a man does not mind you being richer than him, would you consider him to be your soulmate?

I am not interested in a poll, I merely seek only your reply.

Your man earns much more than you before, what will happen if he earns less than you now?

Yes I will. He is confident, loving, caring, hardworking, sensitive, supportive, serious about his work, tries his best etc... he may not do better than me but he is better than a lot of men out there.

I acquiesce, thanks.

I don't mind as long as he does something about it. Since he had done his part earlier on, I don't mind taking over. He need not fear or worry so much coz I'm his safety net also. It works both ways.

This post has been edited by barista: May 12 2009, 09:51 PM

Finally, something approaching sense in this thread.

The saying "It's the thought that counts" doesn't mean you don't need to buy your loved one anything as long as you just think it. It means it's the thought that counts. If your man is thoughtful enough to get you a gift, even when it's neither your birthday nor anniversary nor Valentine's Day, but just because - should you get upset that it's a cheap gift? If he gives you love, affection, comfort and support - how can you complain that he doesn't give you enough money?

Now, I agree completely if a man never spends on his woman, there's something wrong with him. If a guy is stingy with money towards his loved ones, he is most likely stingy with affection as well. But it's his uncaring nature that's relevant here, not the fact that he's a cheapskate. If the only thing you can think about is his reluctance to buy you gifts, or his cheap dates, or his penny-pinching ways - or, for that matter, his asking his fiancee to chip in for wedding expenses...

...well, that makes you shallow. And materialistic. And money-minded. And a gold-digging b****.

(And as for men who think the same way... I really dunno what to call them. )

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Added on May 12, 2009, 9:54 pmI do. Does that make me a leech?



This post has been edited by n00b13: May 12 2009, 09:54 PM

looks like you're reading with your rear end, a man who duno know how to read yet best you can do is talk crap.
Pls do yourself a favor and google if you lazy to buy book. Dun read one book and conclude it is the ultimate truth.

For people who read this...google why female are attracted to pink color, because it is in their gene since prehistoric times to gather fruits.
Since caveman era, man and woman bring food to the table equally and not like what sps says woman those days sit in cave and wait for their food.

Man hunt for animals
Female gather fruits, veg, etc

Like I said, you must have some qualities that your girl loves you so much. I'm sure you have your special gifts.
You are a leech if you don't know what to give her but just sucking on her.

Sorry that i did not read the entire 12 pages to have a reply here. I would like to know how old are you? If you mature enough, you should able to stand on your fiancee side to think. Bro, this is all about marriage. The main ruin factors of divorcy is due to financial problem among the couples.
You are so lucky to tell you that your elaborated cost breakdown for your marriage is all below the market value.
If time is not right, why need to rush for marriage?

How many books on gender and society have YOU read? I stated men was by far the dominant gender during prehistoric times and were even willing to kill to obtain women. In current times, that power gap has been greatly narrowed as education has empowered many women and rightly so. http://www.dur.ac.uk/news/newsitem/?itemno=6585

Read some of these and know about the challenges women have faced throughout history and how many of the them were overcome:

1) Sex differences in social behavior: A social-role interpretation by by Alice H. Eagly

2) Women and Men in Organizations: Sex and Gender Issues at Work by Jeanette N. Cleveland, Margaret Stockdale, Kevin R. Murphy

The point of contention here is not about your fascination with pink colors, it is about WHY do you believe women should leech off men?

Answer the question unless you are too pipsqueak to avoid replying.

Shows, movies and articles on caveman.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caveman

A flashgame on caveman.

http://www.miniclip.com/games/caveman/en/

This post has been edited by monashguy: May 12 2009, 10:12 PM

Pearls before swine, my friend.

I find it amusing that she distinctly avoid answering my question as to why she believes that women should sponge off men and not stand on their own two feet.

Mr Liar Liar ...are you trying to lie your way out from your own trap?
You said woman sit and wait for food!!!

now read this plucked from wiki


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hunter-gatherer

Pls eat your word and not lie your way out, if you're wrong admit your mistake and we can continue the debate about marriage, be a man once in your life would you?

A very good article I found, very good, must read.

http://www.absoluteastronomy.com/topics/Hunter-gatherer

A quote from the article

"A vast amount of ethnographic and archaeological evidence demonstrates that the sexual division of labor in which men hunt and women gather wild fruits and vegetables is an extremely common phenomenon among hunter-gatherers worldwide"

Wow. 1 day and there's 12 pages worth of comments already. >.<
Let me clarify some points since there are some questions directed at me.
1. I love this woman and really want to make her my wife. I just didn't expect it to cost so much.
2. I am simply complaining cause its gonna burn an entire years worth of savings on an event of only 1 day. I can see much better use for the cash.
3. Bear in mind that its only a rough estimate of what it costs so it can come up to much much more.
4. For those who think you can make more out of the "ang pow" from the wedding, its only true if your relatives are rich. Sadly my relatives are from medium to low income bracket and they have many many children (meaning more seats needed, less angpow)

You'll excuse me if I honestly do not envy the man who married the women who got them to pay exorbitant prices for a 1 maybe 2 day event. I feel it is wasteful and there is plenty you can do with the money that will see you through better times. Sadly we chinese haven't learn to throw away our damn "face" so we cannot just have simple weddings like in the western countries. Me and my fiancee want a simple wedding. However, my dad has voiced strong objection to it and he will go so far as to say he will not give his blessing if we don't give the wedding its dues.

I know some of you will say "forget bout your dad, its your life" well sorry to say I'm not a heartless ******* who will forget about the man who raised me, fed me and paid my way through life.

It sickens me that there are still people out there who can forget about their parents so easily.