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TSraymond5105	May 5 2009, 03:54 PM, updated 16y ago Show posts by this member only \| Post #1
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	V8 continues at here. Previous thread has reached 2500 posts. PROUD P4 478 USERS Pentium 4 'C' Northwood/Gallatin (30cappers)/Pentium 4-M 800FSB HT 1) siauann - 2.8C @ 3.71 \| Abit IC7-G \| Corsair XMS XPERT ddr530 \| Leadtek 6600GT 2) zeustronic - 2.8C @ 3.3 \| Asus P4S800 \| A-Data ddr400 512mb2 \| Palit Radeon X800 3) d3x - 2.8C @ 3.08 \| Asus P4P800 Deluxe \| Hynix ddr400 512mb2 \| Sapphire Radeon X1600Pro 4) kucingfight - 2.8C @ 3.8 \| Abit AI7 \| Infeneon CE5 ECC ddr400 1gb2 \| Galaxy 6600 5) KahLooN - 2.6C @ 3.25 \| Abit AI7 \| Team Xtreme 512mb x 2 \| HIS x1950pro AGP 6) evilnickwong - 2.4C @ 3.0 \| Asus P4P800-E Deluxe \| A-Data Vitesta ddr500 512mb2 \| Grandmars 6600GT 7) raymond5105 - 2.8C @ 3.4 \| Asus P4P800-X \| Hynix BT-J ddr400 256mb4 \| Leadtek FX5900 7) raymond5105 - 3.2C @ 3.68 \| Abit IC7-G \| 3GB Kingston Hynix DDR400 \| Sapphire HD2600XT 8) saiaha - 3.06C @ 3.24 \| MSI Neo 2 \| OCZ ddr400 512mb2 \| GeCube Radeon 9600XT 9) mulut99 - 3.4GHz Extreme Edition @ stock \| P4P800SE \| Mushkin Level2 DDR434 512MB X 4 \| GeForce XFX 7900GS 10) toch3 - 2.4C @ stock \| MSI P4M800 \| Kingston ddr400 512+Apacer ddr400 512mb2 \| Gigabyte Radeon 9550 11) enter - 3.2C @ stock \| Intel D865GBF \| Kingston ddr400 256mb4 \| ATI Radeon 9550 12) choongkeat - 2.8C @ stock \| Asus P4P800-X \| Corsair DDR400 512MB2 \| Sapphire ATI Radeon X1950Pro 512MB DDR3 13) Nostalgia - 2.8C @ 3.22 \| Asus P4P800 \| OCZ EL Platinum Rev.2.0 ddr400 512mb2 \| PowerColor Radeon 9800 Pro 14) allenultra - 2.8C @ 3.3 \| Abit AI7 \| Kingston Hynix ddr400 512mb2 \| HIS Radeon 9550 15) glo - 2.8C @ 3.4 \| Asus P4C800 Deluxe \| Kingston HyperX ddr400 512mb2 \| XFX 7800GS 16) glo - 2.8C @ stock \| Asus P4P800-X \| Geil ddr400 1gb \| XFX 6600GT 17) shift - 2.8C @ stock \| MSI 848P Neo V \| Transcend ddr400 512mb \| nVidia FX5200 18) AREA51 - P4-M 2.2 @ 3.12 \| Asus P4P800-X \| Apacer UCCC ddr520 512mb2 \| Leadtek 6800NU 19) jayhan - 2.6C @ stock \| Asus P4P800-X \| Apacer ddr400 512mb2 \| GeCube Radeon 9550XT 20) allenultra - 2.4C @ stock \| Intel D865PERL \| Kingston Hynix ddr400 512mb2 \| HIS Radeon 9550 21 iori_argami - 3.0C (es) @ stock \| Abit AI7 \| A-Data Vitesta ddr500 512mb2 \| Gigabyte Radeon 9600XT 22) altie - 2.6C @ stock \| Asus P4P800-X \| Corsair XMS Pro LED ddr400 512mb2 \| Unika Radeon X800XT 22) altie - 2.8C @ stock \| MSI 865 Neo2 \| Kingston ddr400 512mb2 \| PowerColor Radeon 9800Pro 24) miraged - 2.4C @ 3.24 \| Asus P4P800-X \| Kingston HyperX ddr400 512mb2 \| ATI Radeon X800GTO 25) tyrion4 - 2.8C @ stock \| Asus P4P800-X \| Corsair XMS ddr400 512mb2 \| ATI Radeon 9800Pro 26) momochi zabuza - 2.4C @ 3.0 \| Abit IS7-E \| Geil ddr400 512mb2 \| Galaxy Glacier 6800 27) kenling - 2.6C @ 3.2 \| MSI 865PE Neo 2-V \| Kingston ddr492 512mb2 \| Inno 3D 6600GT 28) almostthere - 2.8C @ 3.22 \| Abit IS7 rev. 1.0 \| 256Mb Infineon -5b2 \| GeForce FX5200 29) shinjite - 3.0GHz ES@ 3.45GHz \| Abit IS7-E \| 2GB Aeneon DDR400 \| Leadtek NV FX5900XT 128MB 30) fo33il - 2.4c @ stock /color] \| [color=blue]Asus P4V8-X \| Kingston DDR400 512MB \| MSI nvidia Fx5200 31) merzchan - 2.4C \| Abit IS7-E \| 1.5 GB Kingston HyperX DDR400 RAM \| HIS Radeon 9600XT 128MB Turbo Edition 32)edministrator - 3.0C @ 3.3 \| Asus P4P800 \| APACER 512MB x 4 \| 7600GS DDR3 33)kabukiawie - 2.8C @ 3.36 \| Asus P4P800-X \| Kingmax 512mb 2 \| Galaxy 7300GT 34)ryu00717 - 2.8c @ stock \| Asus P4P800se \| Kingston pc3200 dual 1GB \| Sapphire X1650pro DDR3 35)busta_dude - P4 3.2GHz@ stock - ASUS P4P800-X - XFX 7800GS EE 36)carlito - 2.6C@stock \| Intel D865PERL \| kingston DDR400 5122 \| GeForce FX5200 37)speedguy10 - 2.8C @ stock \| MSI 865 Neo2 \| Geil DDR400 256mb2 \| MSI FX5200. 38)deale30 - 2.4C @ stock \| Asus P4P800-X \| Kingston ddr400 256mb2 \| Sapphire ATI Radeon 9250 39)bunyani - 3.4C @ stock\| MSI 865PE Neo2-V\| Kingston Hyper-X ddr400 2Gb \| PowerColour Radeon X1650Pro 40)ravewar - 3.2GHz@stock\|INtel D865GBF\| Kingston XMS 2x512MB\| 9600PRO 41)ravewar - 2.4GHz@stock\|MSI P4M\| Corsair VS DDR400 512MB 42)FunkyRider - Pentium 4 3.0GHz EE @ stock \| MSI 945GCM478 \| 512x2 Corsair 8000UL DDR2-1000 \| ASUS EAX1600XT Silent 43)NtahX - 3.2GHz @ stock \| MSI-PM4M \| Kingston DDR400 1x2GB \| Galaxy GF6600GT 44)Lord_sepulchrave - 3.06GHz @ stock \| Asus P4V8X-X \| 3 512mb Corsair DDR400 \| Sapphire HD 2600XT 256MB GDDR3 45)KenjiTSK - 2.8GHz @ stock \| Enlight mobo \| Corsair DDR400 512MB X2 \| ATI RADEON 9250 46)mengwhye - 3.0GHz @ stock \| Intel D865PERL \| Kingston 21GB 400MHz \| ATI Radeon HD3850 AGP 47)redscott - 2.8GHz@stock \| Abit IC7-MAX3 \| Corsair XMS DDR400 4512mb \| Geforce4 MX 440 48)blonely - 3.0GHz@3.45Ghz \| Asus P4P800 \| A-Data DDR400 2512Mb \| HIS X1650XT 512MB IceQTurbo3 49)duncan880409 -2.8GHz @stock \| Biostar P4M900-M4 \| 2X 1GB Corsair DDR2 667MHz 50)gto87 - 3.0GHz@stock \| Intel 865PERL \| ATI HD2600xt \| 2GB DDR400 51)kyo_kusanagi - 3.4GHz @ stock \| Asrock P4i65G \| 2512MB GEIL DDR400 \| Sapphire ATI Radeon HD 2600XT 256MB DDR3 Pentium 4 'B' Northwood 533FSB 1) pengster - 2.4B @ 2.8 \| MSI Neo2-V \| Kingston ddr400 512mb2 \| Palit6800GS 2) gmail - 2.66B @ 3.2 \| Asus P4P800S-X \| Kingston ddr333 512mb \| Asus MX440 3) QD_buyer - 2.8B @ stock \| Asus P4V8X-MX \| Corsair XMS ddr400 512mb \| Sapphire Radeon X1600Pro 4) wk1168 - 2.66B @ stock \| Intel D865PERL \| Kingston ddr400 512mb2 \| Asus GeForce 3 5) kramuse - 2.4B @ stock \| MSI 645E Max-U SiS645DX \| Kingston ddr333 512mb \| MSI FX5700 6) rg470 - 2.4B @ stock \| Asus P4P800-X \| Kingston ddr333 512mb2 \| EVGA 7600GS 7) helangkawi - 2.4B @ 3.06 \| Aopen AX4SPE-UN \| Kingston ddr400 512mb+Apacer ddr400 256mb \| GeCube Radeon 9550XT 8)Mooneyes - 2.4 GHz \| ASROCK P4VM890 \|KINGSTON KVR 512 X2\|GALAXY GEFORCE 7300GT 9)kevinwcw - 2.66GHz \| Gigabyte GA-81848P-G Mobo \| 1gb corsair value ram(512x2) \| Galaxy 6600GT 10)l3th9l - 2.4Ghz @ stock \| MSI 865PE NEO 2 \| Kingston DDR266 256MB x 2 \| MSI 256MB FX5600 11)zeipher - 2.4GHz @ 2.7GHz \| Asus P4P800S-X \| 1x Kingston DDR333 512MB 1x Apacer DDR333 512MB \| MSI GeForce4200 Ti 12)Redundant - 2.4GHz @stock \| Intel 845PESV \| 2 512mb Kingston DDR333 \| Asus ATI 9550GE 256MB 13)HMMaster - 2.4GHz @ 2.7GHz \| MSI 865PE Neo2-PLS \| 2x 512mb DDR400 Kingston \| xpertvision Geforce 6600 14)astria - 2.4GHz @ 2.75GHz \| MSI MS-7031 \| 768MB DDR400 \|Sapphire X1950GT GDDR3 15)ac_N1 - 2.4GHz @ 3.206Ghz \| ASUS P4P800-SE \|4256MB D43 Hynix DDR400 \| MSI Radeon 9800PRO @ 9800XT 16)Mr.Crazy - 2.4GHz @ Stock \| Biostar P4M900-M4 VIA P4M900 \| 2GB Apache DDR2-667[ \| Nvidia GeForce 8600GT 256MB 17)AlexLee277 - 2.4Ghz @ stock \| Asus P4SGX-MX \| Kingston PC3200 512mb \| Integrated SiS 926L 18)V12Kompressor - 2.4GHz @ stock \| MSI PM8M3-V \| Geil 512MB1 \| Manli 7300GT 19)krgroup - 2.4GHz@stock \| MSI MOBO?? \| 2GB Corsair DDR 400MHz \| ON BOARD SIS Pentium 4 'A' Northwood/Willamette 400FSB 1) hyperyouth_firepower - 2.4A @ stock \| Asus P4P800-X \| Air ddr333 256mb2 \| His Radeon X1300 2) polisdirajasarawak - 1.8A @ stock \| Lite-On i845 \| Advance Module ddr266 512mb \| PowerColor Bravo Radeon 9600Pro 3) hihihehe - 2.8A @ stock \| Acer E61ML \| Apacer ddr400 512mb+Transcend ddr400 256 \| MSI 6600 4)Nemesis181188 1.8GHz/Asus P4P800 Deluxe/2x512mb Kingston/ Powercolor 9600pro 5)randoll - 2.8A @ stock \| Asus P4P800 \| Kingston 512mb2 Apacer 256mb2 \| XFX 7600GS 6)takezo88 - 1.7GHz \| asrock pmvm800 \| corsair 512mb 400 MHz \| ABIT 9600 xt 7)dlwl \| 2.0 GHz @ stock \| Soltek 845G \|512MB SD RAM \| Biostar 6800XT 8)em0ti0n - 1.5GHz @ stock \| Intel D845WN \| 384MB SDRAM \| Geforce 2 MX400 9)Exa_Bytez -1.6GHz @ stock\| ABIT IT-7 Max Rev 2.0 \| 2x256MB DDR PC-3200&PC-2100 \| GeCube Radeon 9550XT 10)AlexLee277 - 1.8GHz@stock \| AsRock P4i65G \| DDR400 1GB \| MSI MX440 64MB Pentium 4 'E' Prescott 800FSB HT 1) Mowgli - 3.0E @ 3.75 \| Asus P4P800-E Deluxe \| Team X-Treem TCCD ddr600 512mb2 \| XFX 6800NU 2) sHawTY - 3.0E @ 4.00 \| Asus P4C800-E Deluxe \| Kingston ddr534 512mb2 \| ATI Radeon X1300 3) hurricane21 - 3.0E @ stock \| Abit AI7 \| Kingston HyperX ddr400 256mb2 \| Sapphire Radeon X1600Pro 4) mulut99 - 3.0E @ stock \| Asus P4C800 Deluxe \| Mushkin Enhance LVL2 ddr440 512mb2 \| nVidia 7800GS 5) ReaperOfSoul - 2.8E @ 3.08 \| Asrock P4i65G \| Kingston ddr440 512mb2 \| ATI X800GTO 6) tompok82 - 3.0E @ 3.75 \| Asus P4C800 Deluxe \| Kingston ddr500 512mb2 \| ATI Radeon X1300 7) barry80 - 2.8E @ stock \| MSI 865PE PLS \| Corsair ddr400 512mb2+256mb2 \| PoweColor Radeon X1950Pro 256MB GDDR3 8) xinghuei - 3.2E @ stock \| DFI PT880ELF \| Corsair ddr400 512mb2 \| ATI Radeon 9200SE 9) wk1168 - 3.0E @ stock \| Asus P4P800-X \| Corsair ddr400 512mb2 \| MSI 6600 Diamond 10) SkyDriver - 2.8E @ stock \| MSI PM8M-V \| Kingston Hynix ddr400 512mb2 \| Colorful X700 11) apexi78 - 2.8E @ stock \| Abit IC7-G \| Corsair XL Pro ddr400 512mb2 \| nVidia 7800GS 12) kcng - 2.8E @ stock \| Asus P4P8X \| Corsair XMS ddr400 256mb4 \| Leadtek 6600GT 13) Hitman66 - 3.0E @ stock \| Gigabyte GA-8I848P-G \| Kingston ddr400 512mb2 \| nVidia 6800XT 14) maxlim - 3.0E @ stock \| Asus P4P800-X \| Corsair ddr400 512mb2 \| MSI 6600GT 15) kcng - 2.8E @ stock \| Asus P4P8-X \| Corsair XMS ddr400 256mb4 \| Leadtek 6600GT 16) kenling - 3.4E @ stock \| Abit IS7-E \| Kingston D43 ddr400 512mb2 \| BFG 6800Ultra OC 17) alexandros_18th - P4 3.0E @ Stock \| Asrock P4i65G \| Apacer 512 + Kingston 256 DDR400 \| Galaxy 7300GT 18)Fylon - 3.2E @ 4.017 \| Asus P4P800SE \| Patriot PDP Extreme Performance PC4200 512MB2 \| XFX GeFroce 6800GT 19)sang_karim - 3.0E @ 3.8\| Asus P4P800-SE \|OCZ Platinum PC3200 512MB x 2 \| 128 ATI RADEON 9250 \| 20)GCI99 - 3.0E @ 3.22 HT \| 2 1GB Kingston PC3200\|P4P800 - Duluxe\|6800 GT. 21)khai84siong - 3.0E@stock\| ASUS P4P800\| Mushkin PC3200 Black lvl 2 2512MB \| XFX 7600GT 22) overclockalbert - 2.8E @ 3.8 \| Abit IC7 \| Elpida 512X2 \| Palit 6800GS 23)axern959 - 3.0E @ stock \| MSI PM8M-V \| Kingston DDR400 1GB + 256MB \| Leadtek Winfast 7600GT 24)herojack41 - 2.8E @ stock \| P4P800SE \| Kingston DDR400 1024MB \| Nvidia Geforce 6200A-Le 25)icp - 3.0E@stock \| MSI 865PE Neo2-PS \| Kingston DDR400 5122 \| ATI Radeon 9600XT 26)Ryeeson- 3.0 E @ stock \| ASUS P4P800 SE \|Kingstone DDR400 512mb4 \|XFX6600GT 27)joellim - 2.8E @ 3.3 \| ASRock P4i65G \| 2 * 512MB KVR \|HiS ATi X1650 Pro IceQ 28)sniperz11 - 3.0E @ 3.3 \| Asus P4P800-X \| Kingston 512Mb x 2 \| HIS ATi Radeon x1650xt 29)Tanakwagu_noh - 2.8E @ 3.75 \| Asus P4P800 Deluxe \| Kingstom ddr400 1GB4 \| Nvidia Geforce 6600 30)bai1101 - 3.0E @ stock \| P4p800X \| DDR400 1 GB \| 6600GT 128MB 31)helangkawi - 3.0GHz @ stock \| MSI 875P NEO2 \| Kingston Value Ram DDR400 1GB \| Nvidia Quadro 4 580XGL 32)helangkawi - 3.0GHz @ stock \| Biostar P4M900-M4 \| Corsair Value Ram DDR667 2GB \| Gigabyte 8800GTS G80 32)stealth89 - 3.00GHz @ Stock \| Intel D865PERL \| 512MB Kingston DDR400 x4 \| WinFast GeForce 7600GT 33) sheeeng - 3.00GHz @ Stock \| VIA P4M800 Pro/P4M800 CE/VN800/CN700 \| 512MB DDR333\| VIA/S3G UniChrome Pro IGP 34)Jcsy - 3.0GHz@ stock \| MSI- MS 7104 \| 2GB RAM \| HIS IceQII Radeon X800Pro 35)emy_xvidia - 3.0GHz@ stock \| Gigabyte 865G \|Kingston Hyper 1 X 1.0GB DDR400 \| Gigabyte 7600GT 35)The Silent Killer - 3.0GHz @ stock \| Asus P4P800 \| Corsair DDR400 512MB X2 \| ATI RADEON 9250 36)llutephie - 3.2GHz @ stock \| MSI-7104 VIA P4M800 Pro \| Kingston 400 21GB \| ATI Radeon HD3850 AGP 37)redsuns86 - 2.8GHz@ 3.2GHz \| DFI 848P-AL \| 2 x 1GB Kingston DDR400 \| Sapphire HD2600xt 38)e_k1117 - 3.0GHz@ stock \|MSI PM8M-V H(MS-7104 v2)\| 1.5GB DDR400 \| ASUS ati Radeon 9600SE 128MB 39)Fylon - 3.0E @ Stock \| Abit IS7-E \| Apacer Value Ram 512MB2 \| GeFroce MX4000 40)leopardus - 3.0EGHz@stock \| Asus P4P800-X\| KINGSTON DDR400 512GB \| Palit Nvidia FX5500 256MB Pentium 4 'A' Prescott 533FSB 1) kabukiawie - 2.4A @ 3.0 \| Asus P4P800-X \| Kingmax ddr400 512mb2 \| MSI Radeon 9800Pro 2) Freak` - 2.4A @ stock \| Abit IS7-E \| Kingston ddr400 512mb+256mb \| Asus Radeon 9200SE 3) iman_210 - 2.4A @ stock \| Asus P4P800-X \| Kingston Hynix ddr400 512mb2 \| XFX 6600GT 4) mr_habuk - 2.4A @ stock \| Intel D865PERL \| Kingston ddr400 512mb2 \| GeCube Radeon 9550XT 5) nelza_ax - 2.4A @ 3.95 \| Abit IS7-EG2 \| Kingston DT-D43 ddr400 512mb \| MSI 6200 6) ToGo - 2.4A @ 3.0 \| Asus P4P800-E Deluxe \| Corsair VS ddr400 512mb2 \| Asus Radeon 9600XT 7) swhung - 2.4A @ 2.73 \| Gigabyte 8VM533M-RZ \| Kingston ddr333 512mb+Hynix ddr266 128mb \| PowerColor Radeon 9550 8) apek - 2.4A @ 2.73 \| Asus P4P800-X \| Kingston ddr400 512mb2 \| GeCube Radeon X1600Pro 9) apek - 2.8A @ stock \| Intel D865PERL \| Transcend ddr400 512mb2 \| Galaxy 6800NU 10) RokXIII - 2.4A @ 3.0 \| MSI i865PE Neo-2 \| Corsair ddr400 512mb \| Sapphire Radeon 9550PE 11) GameSky - 2.4A @ stock \| Asus P4V8X-X \| Apacer ddr333 512mb+Kingston ddr333 512mb \| ATI Radeon 9200SE 12)0168257061 - 2.4A @ stock \|Asus P4VP-MX \| 1GB DDR 266 RAM \| Gecube 9550 Extreme 256MB DDR2 13)mav910623 - 2.4GHz @ stock \| Asrock P4i65G \| 512MB Kingston DDR 400 \| 14)Mr.Crazy - 2.4GHz @ 2.52GHz \| MSI P4MAM-V \| Kingstom ddr400 512MB + Apache ddr400 512MB \| MSI ATi Radeon 9550 128MB 15)brantz - 2.4GHz@stock \| MSI P4MAM-V VIA P4M266A \| Kingston 1GB DDR400 \| GrandMars ATi Radeon 9550 128MB 16)AlexLee277 - P4 2.4GHz@ 2.88GHz \| Asus P4P800-x \| DDR400 1GB \| Sapphire ATI R9550 256MB 17)duncan880409 - 2.4GHz @ stock \| Raffles Motherboard \| 1.5GB Kingston DDR 400Mhz \| ATI Radeon 9250 DDR 128MB 18)UnknownH - 2.4GHz@stock \| Elitegroup 865PE-A \| 1.75GB DDR400 \| Powercolor ATI Radeon X800PRO Pentium M Dothan CTP-479 1) cycquest - 750 1.86 @ stock \| Asus P4P800-E Deluxe CTP-479 \| Apacer ddr400 512mb \| eVGA 6800Ultra 2)astria - 725 1.6GHz @ stock \| Intel 915GMS Express Chipset \| DDR333 2512MB \|Graphic Media Accelerator 900 3) FunkyRider - Celeron-M 340 @ 2.33GHz \| ASUS P4P800-E \| 512x2 Infineon CT-5 DDR-400 \| Gigabyte Radeon 9550 Added on August 28, 2007, 10:21 am QUOTE(nelza_ax @ Jan 2 2007, 11:09 PM) USEFUL INFO FOR P4 478? Details of your P4 CPU Check all the P4 siblings n details n type of the cpu at the link above? Info share from wikipedia. Added on August 28, 2007, 10:24 am QUOTE(nelza_ax @ Jan 2 2007, 11:09 PM) Let's compete against each other for our old skool P4 478 machine...our machine can't compare wif those X2, FX, C2D.... P4 478 HALL OF FAME [TOP 20] SUPER PI 1M 01. fylon - 3.2 @4.017GHz- 251MHz @2.5-3-3-8 - 33.532s 02. sang_karim 3.0GHz @3.8GHz - 254MHz @ 2.5-3-3-7 34.875s 03. nelza_ax - 2.4 @ 4.05GHz - 225.5MHz @ 2.5-3-3-7 - 35.641s 04. siauann - 2.8 @ 3.78GHz - 270.2MHz @ 2.5-3-3-6 - 36.64s 05. raymond5105 - 3.2 @ 3.68GHz - 230.3MHz @ 3-4-4-8 - 37.592s 06. colinwong89 - 3.0 @ 3.6GHz - 240MHz @ 2.5-4-3-7 - 37.968s 07. tyrion4 - 2.8 @ 3.78GHz - 216.4MHz @ 2.5-4-4-8 -? 39.641s 08. KahLooN - 2.6 @ 3.38GHz - 225MHz @ 2-3-3-5 - 39.953s 09. kabukiawie - 2.8 @ 3.29GHz - 235MHz @ 2-3-3-5 - 40.516s 10.blonely - 3.0@3.45GHz - 230MHz@ 3-3-3-8 41.547s 11. RokXIII - 2.4 @ 3.23GHz - 168MHz @ 2-3-3-5 - 41.938s 12. kabukiawie - 2.8@3.361GHz 240MHz- 2.5-3-3-7 - 42.672s 13. khai84siong 3.0GHz@3.307GHz@ 220MHz @ 43s 14. ReaperOfSoul 2.8GHz @3.08GHz 220MHz @45.485s 15. choongkeat? 2.8GHz@stock - 200MHz - 2.5-3-3-8 -53.781s 16. pengster 2.4@2.7GHz @ 2.5-3-3-7 @ 150MHz - 56s . NORTHWOOD . PRESSCOTT SiSANDRA LITE 2007 . PROCESSOR ARITHMETIC 01. raymond5105 - 3.2 @ 3.68GHz - 9486 02. sang_karim- 3.0 @ 3.8GHz -9173 03. fylon - 3.0@ 3.6GHz - 9108 04. RokXIII - 2.4 @ 3.23GHz - 7262 05. choongkeat - 2.8@stock - 7149 06. kabukiawie - 2.4 @ 3.02GHz - 6780 07. pengster - 2.4@ 2.7GHz -5686 . MEMORY BANDWIDTH 01. sang_karim - 3.0@3.8GHz @254MHz @ 2.5-3-3-7 - 5985 02. raymond5105 - 3.2 @ 3.68GHz @ 230MHz @ 3-4-4-8 - 5525 03. fylon - 3.2@3.75GHz @235MHz - 2.5-3-3-6 5500 04. kabukiawie - 2.8 @ 3.36GHz? @ 240MHz @ 2-3-3-6 - 4974 05. RokXIII - 2.4 @ 3.23GHz @ 225MHz @ 2-3-3-5 - 4132 06. choongkeat- 2.8GHz @ stock @ 200MHz @ 2.5-3-3-8 - 3690 07. pengster - 2.4 - 2.7GHz @150MHz @ - 3247 . NORTHWOOD . PRESSCOTT P4 478/479 benchies. Link to V2 thread... Link to V3 thread... Link to V4 thread... Link to V5 thread... Link to V6 thread... Link to V7 thread... This post has been edited by raymond5105: Jan 1 2010, 06:21 PM
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edministrator	May 5 2009, 04:20 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #2
Regular Senior Member 1,940 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Soviet Sarawak	1st~~~ wow, this thread already powderful V8 engine, hohoho haha, ray, we cannot use RM1K PSU in our S478 kah? lol This post has been edited by edministrator: May 5 2009, 04:23 PM
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astria	May 5 2009, 04:26 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #3
an apple a day keeps the doctor away Senior Member 22,158 posts Joined: Aug 2008 From: Singapore	gratz on v8...
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TSraymond5105	May 5 2009, 04:32 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #4
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	QUOTE(edministrator @ May 5 2009, 04:20 PM) 1st~~~ wow, this thread already powderful V8 engine, hohoho haha, ray, we cannot use RM1K PSU in our S478 kah? lol Edmin,can can.Just wander who is going be the first one to use the RM1k psu with this old school.
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Jcsy	May 5 2009, 04:38 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #5
Frag First! Think Later? Senior Member 2,782 posts Joined: Feb 2006 From: BANGSARian	haha raydmond, i just noticed my specs in first post is wrong.. mobo DFI sudah mampus, so changed to MSI liao thanks mate yup, V8, wroom wroom
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fylon	May 5 2009, 04:50 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #6
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	Woah.. This is fast man.. All hail S478! @e_k1117 Well, that is we ask u to trouble shoot the problem that ur facing 1st. At least u know what is the problem that causing ur system restart. Haha.. At least wont make the wrong assumption.
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barry80	May 5 2009, 04:53 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #7
Casual Junior Member 490 posts Joined: Feb 2006 From: Somewhere I belong	wow! V8 p4 never dies.....1k psu sure okay for our p4 but i think is overkill think of retiring my current p4 to HTPC & my next setup will be phenom 2 x4 940. any good mobo to recommend? prefer 790fx chipset & below rm500- mobo alone.....TQ astria@ i saw 1 of ur rig with phenom 2 x3 BE, how's the performance comparing ur another cd2 ? ray@ long time didn't stop by here, pls "upgrade" my current setup for the p4 E list..... TQ 2.8E @ stock \| MSI 865PE Neo2 Platinum \| Corsair ddr400 512mb2+ Kingston ddr400 512mb2 \| PoweColor Radeon X1950Pro 256MB GDDR3 AGP
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blonely	May 5 2009, 06:12 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #8
Getting Started Junior Member 212 posts Joined: May 2007 From: PJ	Reported to V8~!
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e_k1117	May 5 2009, 06:50 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #9
Getting Started Junior Member 276 posts Joined: Mar 2008 From: KedaH	me new comer reporting in V8 also yo, is me again. i unOC my proc alr... but the Vcore still the same showing 1.2V only how how.... the prob is my mobo cant support Vcore change.... should i just ignore it.... but then i vy scare loh.....sudd restart...so TuLN This post has been edited by e_k1117*: May 5 2009, 08:18 PM
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TSraymond5105	May 5 2009, 09:55 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #10
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	QUOTE(Jcsy @ May 5 2009, 04:38 PM) haha raydmond, i just noticed my specs in first post is wrong.. mobo DFI sudah mampus, so changed to MSI liao thanks mate yup, V8, wroom wroom Updated already. QUOTE(barry80 @ May 5 2009, 04:53 PM) wow! V8 p4 never dies.....1k psu sure okay for our p4 but i think is overkill think of retiring my current p4 to HTPC & my next setup will be phenom 2 x4 940. any good mobo to recommend? prefer 790fx chipset & below rm500- mobo alone.....TQ astria@ i saw 1 of ur rig with phenom 2 x3 BE, how's the performance comparing ur another cd2 ? ray@ long time didn't stop by here, pls "upgrade" my current setup for the p4 E list..... TQ 2.8E @ stock \| MSI 865PE Neo2 Platinum \| Corsair ddr400 512mb2+ Kingston ddr400 512mb2 \| PoweColor Radeon X1950Pro 256MB GDDR3 AGP Wah,upgraded the GC also. X1950 pro still can handle new games well currently?
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Jcsy	May 5 2009, 11:49 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #11
Frag First! Think Later? Senior Member 2,782 posts Joined: Feb 2006 From: BANGSARian	x1950 is the monsta still remember it was AGP king.. for a considerable amount of time too
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barry80	May 6 2009, 12:50 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #12
Casual Junior Member 490 posts Joined: Feb 2006 From: Somewhere I belong	QUOTE(raymond5105 @ May 5 2009, 09:55 PM) Updated already. Wah,upgraded the GC also. X1950 pro still can handle new games well currently? thats y i decided to get a new rig. phenom 2 dragon setup on the way .....lol
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dlwl	May 6 2009, 05:14 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #13
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 4,789 posts Joined: Aug 2005 From: Ipoh <---> Kuala Lumpur	QUOTE(Jcsy @ May 5 2009, 11:49 PM) x1950 is the monsta still remember it was AGP king.. for a considerable amount of time too yeah..now the performance should be able to match 8600GT or GTS maybe. my friend had one too, can play fear 2 at medium settings. but his is pci-e version.
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TSraymond5105	May 6 2009, 09:30 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #14
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	QUOTE(Jcsy @ May 5 2009, 11:49 PM) x1950 is the monsta still remember it was AGP king.. for a considerable amount of time too Yup was a big monster. QUOTE(barry80 @ May 6 2009, 12:50 AM) thats y i decided to get a new rig. phenom 2 dragon setup on the way .....lol lol,phenom 2 dragon setup man...I think X1950pro is strong in DX9 games... QUOTE(dlwl @ May 6 2009, 05:14 AM) yeah..now the performance should be able to match 8600GT or GTS maybe. my friend had one too, can play fear 2 at medium settings. but his is pci-e version. Should be around that. Perhaps a HD2600XT is able to run par with 8600GT too?
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Jcsy	May 6 2009, 11:03 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #15
Frag First! Think Later? Senior Member 2,782 posts Joined: Feb 2006 From: BANGSARian	e_1117 i noticed that my CPU setting in the bios is 1.35V i had no options to overclock or over volt it lol sucky mobo
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TSraymond5105	May 6 2009, 11:09 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #16
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	@Jcsy,you should grab the Gigabyte 875P mobo yesterday.
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kabukiawie	May 6 2009, 01:17 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #17
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 2,039 posts Joined: Jan 2003	finally come to v8. its a long journey. i think i join in since v3 or v4 like that. hahaha...... yea... 1950pro is one of the top line in agp gc. but its price is quite high. @ray giga 875p? is it the 1 with 6 ram slots?? @e_1117 via mobo normally doesnt provide much oc options. since you using cap ayam psu, better dont take the risk. unless you wanna "find a reason" buy a new pc.
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TSraymond5105	May 6 2009, 01:39 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #18
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	@kabu,yaya. You are correct. The board is coming with 6 ram slots. The board is already sold off according to the seller.
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Jcsy	May 6 2009, 02:12 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #19
Frag First! Think Later? Senior Member 2,782 posts Joined: Feb 2006 From: BANGSARian	wah 6 slots of RAM? i got 5 peices of ram, but just using 2 got 512 + 512 + 512 if got 6 dimm's then can use all hehe
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e_k1117	May 6 2009, 02:33 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #20
Getting Started Junior Member 276 posts Joined: Mar 2008 From: KedaH	@Jcsy, ya loh... but then i go to search its details. although is 6 dimm but can only support up to 4G only.... 875 is belongs to high end mobo for s478 alr. right?
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Jcsy	May 6 2009, 03:30 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #21
Frag First! Think Later? Senior Member 2,782 posts Joined: Feb 2006 From: BANGSARian	1024 + 1024 + 512 + 512 + 512 just nice mah haha 4GB yup i think high end mobo liao, back in s478 days really pricey 2 get one of those
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edministrator	May 6 2009, 03:55 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #22
Regular Senior Member 1,940 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Soviet Sarawak	4gb also useless. 32bit processor cannot access those memory registers. 3Gb is just nice :-)
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e_k1117	May 6 2009, 03:55 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #23
Getting Started Junior Member 276 posts Joined: Mar 2008 From: KedaH	but is too late alr... Sold alr liao loh....
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Jcsy	May 6 2009, 04:13 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #24
Frag First! Think Later? Senior Member 2,782 posts Joined: Feb 2006 From: BANGSARian	yeah lor, muahaha last time im using 3GB.. now 2GB but no difference at all .. seldom hit up that high unless playing Company of Heroes i prefer my DFI mobo though, this MSI a bit dodgy.. =.=
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duncan880409	May 6 2009, 04:15 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #25
Like Working in My Lab ^^ Senior Member 3,700 posts Joined: May 2007 From: KT/UTM Skudai	congrats for the V8 ~~
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dlwl	May 6 2009, 04:25 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #26
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 4,789 posts Joined: Aug 2005 From: Ipoh <---> Kuala Lumpur	QUOTE(raymond5105 @ May 6 2009, 09:30 AM) Should be around that. Perhaps a HD2600XT is able to run par with 8600GT too? yeah, 2600XT on par with 8600GT. QUOTE(kabukiawie @ May 6 2009, 01:17 PM) giga 875p? is it the 1 with 6 ram slots?? 6 slots? that's really a rarity even for newer tech also very rare to find 6 slots on a mobo..except for i7 boards now
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TSraymond5105	May 6 2009, 04:34 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #27
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	QUOTE(e_k1117 @ May 6 2009, 03:55 PM) but is too late alr... Sold alr liao loh.... Yeah,already sold off. QUOTE(dlwl @ May 6 2009, 04:25 PM) yeah, 2600XT on par with 8600GT. 6 slots? that's really a rarity even for newer tech also very rare to find 6 slots on a mobo..except for i7 boards now Even AGP one also? @edmin,3GB is just nice for a 32bit OS. 4GB also can run but need 64bits OS. @Jcsy, those board were very expensive last time.
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dlwl	May 6 2009, 05:07 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #28
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 4,789 posts Joined: Aug 2005 From: Ipoh <---> Kuala Lumpur	@ray i reckon that the agp one should be just slightly behind, probably due to agp bandwith limitations.
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edministrator	May 6 2009, 05:18 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #29
Regular Senior Member 1,940 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Soviet Sarawak	QUOTE(raymond5105 @ May 6 2009, 04:34 PM) @edmin,3GB is just nice for a 32bit OS. 4GB also can run but need 64bits OS. ray bro, cannot lah. s478 not 64bit capable. u can try get a copy of 64bit OS and install. if successful, please share with us your secrets...
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TSraymond5105	May 6 2009, 05:26 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #30
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	QUOTE(edministrator @ May 6 2009, 05:18 PM) ray bro, cannot lah. s478 not 64bit capable. u can try get a copy of 64bit OS and install. if successful, please share with us your secrets... Oh yeah...o LOLed...forgot already. Old school is just 32bit processing. Added on May 6, 2009, 5:27 pm QUOTE(dlwl @ May 6 2009, 05:07 PM) @ray i reckon that the agp one should be just slightly behind, probably due to agp bandwith limitations. Hmm...Seems like HD2600XT is powerful ya...I read some review...it's par with 7600GT too... This post has been edited by raymond5105: May 6 2009, 05:27 PM
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kabukiawie	May 6 2009, 05:34 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #31
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 2,039 posts Joined: Jan 2003	s478 cant run more than 4gb ram due to chipset limit, and cpu only 32bit like ed said. hd2600xt is on par with 76gt. same level card. never try that card before. hahaha.....
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e_k1117	May 6 2009, 05:35 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #32
Getting Started Junior Member 276 posts Joined: Mar 2008 From: KedaH	@ray, act do we need 64 bit ? i think now most people just using the 32bit processing only. right? what is the diff among two? is 64 bit common for now?
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TSraymond5105	May 6 2009, 05:46 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #33
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	@e_k1117, 64bits is not necessary. Not many applications can run well with 64bits OS.
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e_k1117	May 6 2009, 06:53 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #34
Getting Started Junior Member 276 posts Joined: Mar 2008 From: KedaH	can someone help me in how to upgrade my BIOS? i saw many is require the disket one..... what i must beware of when updating BIOS coz i nv do it... This post has been edited by e_k1117: May 6 2009, 07:05 PM
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r312	May 6 2009, 07:22 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #35
Getting Started Junior Member 127 posts Joined: Jan 2009	bios update lo
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e_k1117	May 6 2009, 07:26 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #36
Getting Started Junior Member 276 posts Joined: Mar 2008 From: KedaH	Manually leh? can reinstall the BIOS ?? mine one for MSI pM8MV-h alr version 3.4 which i think is the latest alr... so how can i use bac version 3.3 n try ?
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TSraymond5105	May 6 2009, 09:35 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #37
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	@e_k1117 ,flash back to the previous version...I have never tried before.....I remembered fylon said can't work.
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e_k1117	May 6 2009, 10:23 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #38
Getting Started Junior Member 276 posts Joined: Mar 2008 From: KedaH	my CPU-Z show that my Vcore always vary from 1.200V to 1.264V.is that normal? are the fluctuation too big already?
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edministrator	May 6 2009, 10:37 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #39
Regular Senior Member 1,940 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Soviet Sarawak	your fluctuation is normal, within error margin. the main concern is your default voltage. try running at stock clock and see if your restart problem persists.
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duncan880409	May 7 2009, 01:53 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #40
Like Working in My Lab ^^ Senior Member 3,700 posts Joined: May 2007 From: KT/UTM Skudai	Intel P4 S478 @ 2.4Ghz, Raffles Motherboard, Kingston DDR 400Mhz 512Mb RAM, Kingston DDR 400Mhz 1024Mb RAM, ATI Radeon 9250 DDR 128Mb 64bit AGP, Hitachi CinemaStar PATA 250Gb 16Mb HDD, Imation DVD-RAM Drive BSOD at installing windows, any idea?
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Jcsy	May 7 2009, 05:26 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #41
Frag First! Think Later? Senior Member 2,782 posts Joined: Feb 2006 From: BANGSARian	i find it hard 2 come about that e_1117 has overclocked his CPU? i wonder how u do it , coz i cant seem 2 do it anywhere so how are u running lower voltage (cant adjust) with higher cpu speed ( cant adjust ) ? u carry over the CPU from other mobo ? doesnt make sense so far.. i still think your CPU is stock unless u are running a higher bios level than mine (which allows u 2 adjust) but that question just got answered as well QUOTE "can someone help me in how to upgrade my BIOS? i saw many is require the disket one..... what i must beware of when updating BIOS coz i nv do it..." maybe yours shipped in SPECIAL =.= ?
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edministrator	May 7 2009, 07:18 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #42
Regular Senior Member 1,940 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Soviet Sarawak	@jcsy, no idea bro, he said he oc'ed his cpu. so we all just advised him to move back 2 stock to troubleshoot his problem.
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kabukiawie	May 7 2009, 07:49 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #43
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 2,039 posts Joined: Jan 2003	@duncan880409 raffles mobo.... just googled. very limited infor on this. unless you provide some cpuz screenshot. raffles from pakistan?! btw, its very hard to diagnose your BSOD prob. too many possibility. like ram, cd, dvdrom drive, cable, mobo, hdd etc. @jcsy via mobo normally allows rising fsb, but not on voltage especially the 1 that come with vga. so he just push till the limit on the stock voltage. This post has been edited by kabukiawie: May 7 2009, 07:54 AM
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e_k1117	May 7 2009, 08:11 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #44
Getting Started Junior Member 276 posts Joined: Mar 2008 From: KedaH	@jcsy yaya, there is 1 option on the BIOS which can OC abit by it default setting in the menu. i not sure what title is it already. tonight i check it n let you know. if not mistaken it is at the right side most top option in BIOS. from there i increase abit the FSB. but last night i unOC back my proc, then stress it with PRIME95 whole night. nothing happen..... Maybe i shouldn't OC my proc at all...... BTW, just wan to ask, will the diff of 0.2Ghz-0.4Ghz after OC make so diff in speed and performance during the usage of the windows? anyway, i think MSI- MS 7104 doesn't support DUAL channel one. am i right? does any1 here try windows 7 in s478 platform alr??? how is that? does p4 s478 able to cope it well? Added on May 7, 2009, 8:21 amsome more my CRT is "kong" already. so i never go and fully use it yet.... anyway, my 24 inch LCD is on the way already... . hope that can get it by tonight. hopefully my ati 9600se is able to drive it..... if not.... then This post has been edited by e_k1117: May 7 2009, 08:21 AM
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edministrator	May 7 2009, 08:52 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #45
Regular Senior Member 1,940 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Soviet Sarawak	1. leave it at stock for the moment to see if your problem comes back. 2. diff between 200-400Mhz is negligible in daily usage. 3. MSI-7104 is one of the budget boards that does not include dual channel support. 4. Windows 7 in s478 is more responsive compared to vista, no worries. 5. 9600SE provided with the new catalyst drivers can support 24" HD resolutions, best when connected through DVI. This post has been edited by edministrator: May 7 2009, 08:53 AM
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fylon	May 7 2009, 09:22 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #46
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	QUOTE(raymond5105 @ May 6 2009, 09:35 PM) @e_k1117 ,flash back to the previous version...I have never tried before.....I remembered fylon said can't work. That is what i read from article, but never try it before. Pro's said that the flashing tools has some CRC checksum, it only allow upgrade but not downgrade. Well, i think it only applied to older version of mobo. Current mobo on the market is allow to flash up and down for the bios without worries. P/s: Btw, this thread getting hox! 1 day page! @e_k1117 Any report from u by reverting back all ur rigs setting to default?
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e_k1117	May 7 2009, 09:49 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #47
Getting Started Junior Member 276 posts Joined: Mar 2008 From: KedaH	QUOTE(e_k1117 @ May 7 2009, 08:11 AM) but last night i unOC back my proc, then stress it with PRIME95 whole night. nothing happen..... Maybe i shouldn't OC my proc at all...... @fylon looks like nothing happen yet. coz act i now using laptop since my CRT is "die" already. no green color at all, the screen jt vy reddy.... now also running the prime95 torture test..... without restart whole day alr. waiting for my LCD now.....
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TSraymond5105	May 7 2009, 10:17 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #48
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	@fylon,thanks for sharing. New bios can flash up and down already... @e_k1117 ,buy 22" inches LCD ?
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e_k1117	May 7 2009, 10:31 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #49
Getting Started Junior Member 276 posts Joined: Mar 2008 From: KedaH	24 inch Dell lcd if the seller not ffk me la... 1 time buy big one liao. no need to upgrade anymore in few yrs time.....
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kabukiawie	May 7 2009, 10:43 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #50
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 2,039 posts Joined: Jan 2003	flashing up and down shouldnt be no prob. from my experience on my asus mobo, using older version flash tool i manage to flash to any version but using latest it stop me flash backward.
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Jcsy	May 7 2009, 01:03 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #51
Frag First! Think Later? Senior Member 2,782 posts Joined: Feb 2006 From: BANGSARian	QUOTE anyway, i think MSI- MS 7104 doesn't support DUAL channel one. am i right? nope, single channel lol
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mav910623	May 10 2009, 11:34 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #52
Dr. Antidote Senior Member 1,344 posts Joined: Jan 2007 From: Malaysia	guys.. i recently changed my 2.4 prescott to a 3.2 northwood... now the HSF runs at 5k RPM all the time .. need a fix for this ... the prescott used to go up to 5400RPM under load after i installed a 8600GT... Im using the prescott HSF with the northwood BTW Added on May 10, 2009, 12:38 pm QUOTE(mav910623 @ May 10 2009, 11:34 AM) guys.. i recently changed my 2.4 prescott to a 3.2 northwood... now the HSF runs at 5k RPM all the time .. need a fix for this ... the prescott used to go up to 5400RPM under load after i installed a 8600GT... Im using the prescott HSF with the northwood BTW ok.. i think i solved it .. i changed back to the Northwood ORI HSF .. and now stable temp with 2700 RPM. temp is 45C idle (ok temp?) This post has been edited by mav910623: May 10 2009, 12:38 PM
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edministrator	May 10 2009, 01:19 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #53
Regular Senior Member 1,940 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Soviet Sarawak	45C idle with stock cooling is normal.
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TSraymond5105	May 10 2009, 03:10 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #54
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	Prescott heatsink fan is running at 5k rpm by default?
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e_k1117	May 10 2009, 04:08 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #55
Getting Started Junior Member 276 posts Joined: Mar 2008 From: KedaH	hi guys, ati 9600 se change to x1650xt. will see big difference and improvement??
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edministrator	May 10 2009, 05:14 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #56
Regular Senior Member 1,940 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Soviet Sarawak	QUOTE(e_k1117 @ May 10 2009, 04:08 PM) hi guys, ati 9600 se change to x1650xt. will see big difference and improvement?? very very minor. 1650xt is a very low end card to start with. how much does the card u r planning 2 get costs?
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e_k1117	May 10 2009, 05:46 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #57
Getting Started Junior Member 276 posts Joined: Mar 2008 From: KedaH	i only got budget around RM100++ coz if put too much not worth alr.... Added on May 10, 2009, 5:50 pmjust minor improvement only ah. but if according to the spec should be triple of 9600se performance.... 256MB with 128bit DDR3.... where as 9600se just 128MB 64bit DDR1 only... Added on May 10, 2009, 5:52 pmso i thought the performance should be very much different already... This post has been edited by e_k1117: May 10 2009, 05:54 PM
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TSraymond5105	May 10 2009, 06:12 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #58
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	QUOTE(e_k1117 @ May 10 2009, 04:08 PM) hi guys, ati 9600 se change to x1650xt. will see big difference and improvement?? QUOTE(e_k1117 @ May 10 2009, 05:46 PM) i only got budget around RM100++ coz if put too much not worth alr.... Added on May 10, 2009, 5:50 pmjust minor improvement only ah. but if according to the spec should be triple of 9600se performance.... 256MB with 128bit DDR3.... where as 9600se just 128MB 64bit DDR1 only... Added on May 10, 2009, 5:52 pmso i thought the performance should be very much different already... Woops...Upgrade already ....Do you run any benchmark to see.You can feel improvement to 9600SE....But not that much.
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edministrator	May 10 2009, 06:19 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #59
Regular Senior Member 1,940 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Soviet Sarawak	yeah, i would foresee minor improvements from your current card, depends on the applications/games that u r running. but the best way we could advise u is based on how much you are spending for the card so we can gauge the price vs performance level, balance is the keyword here. cheers. Added on May 10, 2009, 6:28 pmOh, one more thing, this one slipped my eyesight. You are referring to 1650Pro or 1650XT? Pro and XT is different specs. Pro=minor improvements due to crippled specs. XT=same level as 7600GT. some benchmarks for your reference: bbqsauce: http://www.techspot.com/review/31-radeon-x...00gt/page4.html This post has been edited by edministrator: May 10 2009, 06:30 PM
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e_k1117	May 10 2009, 06:41 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #60
Getting Started Junior Member 276 posts Joined: Mar 2008 From: KedaH	so is that means that in terms of performance: (X1650XT=>7600GT) > 7600GS is that true? Added on May 10, 2009, 6:44 pmoh ya, the review u gave is based on PCI-E platform one leh.....Not AGP..... This post has been edited by e_k1117: May 10 2009, 06:44 PM
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edministrator	May 10 2009, 07:10 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #61
Regular Senior Member 1,940 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Soviet Sarawak	in agp, 7600GT>1650XT>7600GS although review in PCIe, it gives u rough idea on the performance level of the cards. Improvise a bit lah... This post has been edited by edministrator: May 10 2009, 07:11 PM
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e_k1117	May 10 2009, 07:15 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #62
Getting Started Junior Member 276 posts Joined: Mar 2008 From: KedaH	@ray NOt yet upgrade loh.... still thinking of it.... have to think twice whether is worth or not..... coz my current card looks like cannot support DotA in 24 inch LCD even in medium setting
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Jcsy	May 10 2009, 09:02 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #63
Frag First! Think Later? Senior Member 2,782 posts Joined: Feb 2006 From: BANGSARian	prescott around 3k RPM default if its really hot, then higher liao 45C is good liao, using the northwood heatsink btw, 1650 aint that great deal of an upgrade though ler.. even though on paper is 3 time the specs
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TSraymond5105	May 10 2009, 09:05 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #64
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	QUOTE(e_k1117 @ May 10 2009, 06:41 PM) so is that means that in terms of performance: (X1650XT=>7600GT) > 7600GS is that true? Added on May 10, 2009, 6:44 pmoh ya, the review u gave is based on PCI-E platform one leh.....Not AGP..... We can expect a margin of 2-5% drop in benchmark as AGP has limited bandwidth.
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fylon	May 10 2009, 09:11 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #65
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	AGP performance drop is due to the HIS chip that convert the PCIe slot to AGP slot. Not much performance drop, but kee an eyes for the temp. It rise fast. @e_k1117 Are u using stock HSF? Ya temp seems to be ok on stock. But full load seems scary.. At least mine were 40'c on idle and 55'c on load with 3rd party cooling. Just sold it weeks ago, now rocking with Xigmatek Red Scorpion. P/s: Oh yea... Edmin has invested on something BIG. This post has been edited by fylon: May 10 2009, 09:12 PM
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edministrator	May 10 2009, 09:45 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #66
Regular Senior Member 1,940 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Soviet Sarawak	QUOTE(e_k1117 @ May 10 2009, 07:15 PM) @ray NOt yet upgrade loh.... still thinking of it.... have to think twice whether is worth or not..... coz my current card looks like cannot support DotA in 24 inch LCD even in medium setting the card that kabuki has in hand right now, 7600GT DDR3 i played 1920x1200 Warcraft 3 no lag full settings on p4 3Ghz HT.
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e_k1117	May 10 2009, 10:23 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #67
Getting Started Junior Member 276 posts Joined: Mar 2008 From: KedaH	@fylon act i never reach load temp before. it is just assumption only... i using the TUNIQ TOWER 120. with the lowest speed fan...... act the tower too big for my casing that cause my side panel canot close.... Added on May 10, 2009, 10:25 pmoh ya, wan to ask can ati radeon 9200SE support directX 9?? Added on May 10, 2009, 10:31 pm QUOTE(edministrator @ May 10 2009, 09:45 PM) the card that kabuki has in hand right now, 7600GT DDR3 i played 1920x1200 Warcraft 3 no lag full settings on p4 3Ghz HT. That card equip with the zalman fan alr..... make it too expensive for me to grab it.... the cooler price almost the same as the card alone Added on May 10, 2009, 10:33 pmso have to find other option GC for me to play dota smoothly.... at least medium high setting with full res. This post has been edited by e_k1117: May 10 2009, 10:33 PM
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edministrator	May 10 2009, 10:34 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #68
Regular Senior Member 1,940 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Soviet Sarawak	QUOTE(e_k1117 @ May 10 2009, 10:23 PM) @fylon act i never reach load temp before. it is just assumption only... i using the TUNIQ TOWER 120. with the lowest speed fan...... act the tower too big for my casing that cause my side panel canot close.... Added on May 10, 2009, 10:25 pmoh ya, wan to ask can ati radeon 9200SE support directX 9?? Added on May 10, 2009, 10:31 pm That card equip with the zalman fan alr..... make it too expensive for me to grab it.... the cooler price almost the same as the card alone 9200SE DX8 only. The 7600GT is really special equipped with zalman fatality fan
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e_k1117	May 10 2009, 10:54 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #69
Getting Started Junior Member 276 posts Joined: Mar 2008 From: KedaH	QUOTE(fylon @ May 10 2009, 09:11 PM) @e_k1117 Are u using stock HSF? Ya temp seems to be ok on stock. But full load seems scary.. At least mine were 40'c on idle and 55'c on load with 3rd party cooling. Just sold it weeks ago, now rocking with Xigmatek Red Scorpion. @fylon can red scorpion support S478? u modd it? This post has been edited by e_k1117: May 10 2009, 10:54 PM
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edministrator	May 10 2009, 10:56 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #70
Regular Senior Member 1,940 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Soviet Sarawak	QUOTE(e_k1117 @ May 10 2009, 10:54 PM) @fylon can red scorpion support S478? u modd it? he means he is using on his new Q6600 CPU. s775. he is waiting for his new crossbow kit, phewwitt.... This post has been edited by edministrator: May 10 2009, 10:56 PM
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e_k1117	May 10 2009, 10:58 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #71
Getting Started Junior Member 276 posts Joined: Mar 2008 From: KedaH	Oops.... sorry. so he thought i also using 775 platform izit..... s478 canot compare with 775 loh.. sory sory misunderstand.....
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fylon	May 10 2009, 11:05 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #72
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	@e_k1117 @_@.. In which part LG775 cannot compare with S478? Hahah.. What if im using LG775 P4 pair with DDR ram and AGP Slot mobo? Anyways, RS is one of the low price cooler but the performance is on par with TR TRUE. @Edmin Eh where is SLR shot for ur new rigs????
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edministrator	May 10 2009, 11:08 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #73
Regular Senior Member 1,940 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Soviet Sarawak	QUOTE(e_k1117 @ May 10 2009, 10:58 PM) Oops.... sorry. so he thought i also using 775 platform izit..... s478 canot compare with 775 loh.. sory sory misunderstand..... fylon, old kaki in s478. just trying 2 assist in this thread like me. @fylon, wait until i assemble my new u know what later la... hehehe
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e_k1117	May 10 2009, 11:18 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #74
Getting Started Junior Member 276 posts Joined: Mar 2008 From: KedaH	@fylon sorry for my unclear words. i just mean the heat produce by s478 tech canot compare with s775 tech......
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edministrator	May 10 2009, 11:20 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #75
Regular Senior Member 1,940 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Soviet Sarawak	QUOTE(e_k1117 @ May 10 2009, 11:18 PM) @fylon sorry for my unclear words. i just mean the heat produce by s478 tech canot compare with s775 tech...... bro, can compare and match. 3Ghz s478 averagely TDP is 95W. s775 quad is around 95W - 105W.
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fylon	May 10 2009, 11:31 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #76
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	@e_k1117 Can la kawan.. TDP is the main thing when comes to temp and heatsink. My Q6 TDP 95W and ur P4 3.0Ghz TDP is 89W (get to intel processor finder website to find the facts, too lazy to link it here ). In overall, P4 is dissipate less heat then Q6. But the reading will be vary depend on the processor surface and cooler. Bear in mind, most processor surface is not even one, there will sure have concave. The best way to make it even is to lap it.
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Positve_Guy	May 11 2009, 01:18 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #77
Casual Junior Member 342 posts Joined: Jul 2008 From: PJ/KL	Woo good dealer!
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dlwl	May 11 2009, 01:43 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #78
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 4,789 posts Joined: Aug 2005 From: Ipoh <---> Kuala Lumpur	QUOTE(AllItBatuPahat @ May 11 2009, 01:18 AM) Woo good dealer! what do you mean? are you trying to spam here?
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fylon	May 11 2009, 08:10 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #79
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	QUOTE(AllItBatuPahat @ May 11 2009, 01:18 AM) Woo good dealer! @dlwl Upgrading ur system? P/s: Beginner is selling OEM quaddy for RM450. A good bargain there bro! This post has been edited by fylon: May 11 2009, 08:12 AM
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dlwl	May 11 2009, 09:25 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #80
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 4,789 posts Joined: Aug 2005 From: Ipoh <---> Kuala Lumpur	ya..thinking of upgrading looking around to see what choices i have, quite interested to get the xeon 3320, but now hard to find in garage sales. one of the reason i wanna change proc coz i wanna run win xp mode inside win 7. my current proc doesnt support VT
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fylon	May 11 2009, 10:41 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #81
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	@dlwl P/s: Following Edmin's back? Xeon lagi keh? Hahha.. Quady is enough for me. But unfortunately, Xeon 3 series is phase out liao, now is flooded with X5 series. Better take ur chance to hook one Q6 if got chance man. Its getting rare..
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dlwl	May 11 2009, 11:00 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #82
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 4,789 posts Joined: Aug 2005 From: Ipoh <---> Kuala Lumpur	Edmin also using xeon? didnt notice that. aiks, pahsed out already eh..hunting for this proc coz equavalent to Q9300. looks like gotta go for q6600 like you said
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fylon	May 11 2009, 12:49 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #83
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	@dlwl O/T: Yea. X3 is phased out long time ago. Hardly to be found in market. Honestly, i will suggest u go for Q6 as cache play a big roles. Cache is always not enough, so better to pick up the high cache proc as FSB / clock can be rise after that. But cache cant.
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edministrator	May 11 2009, 01:40 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #84
Regular Senior Member 1,940 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Soviet Sarawak	QUOTE(dlwl @ May 11 2009, 11:00 AM) Edmin also using xeon? didnt notice that. aiks, pahsed out already eh..hunting for this proc coz equavalent to Q9300. looks like gotta go for q6600 like you said yo bro. me on xeon X3220. was planning to get X3320 also but the cache is less. now running 3Ghz on 1333FSB. Later this week will run 3.60Ghz with FSB1600 when my new cooler arrives. now since xeon is rare and expensive, better get Q6600 G0, same specs as X3220.
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dlwl	May 11 2009, 02:59 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #85
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 4,789 posts Joined: Aug 2005 From: Ipoh <---> Kuala Lumpur	is it? didn't know that x3220=q6600 thanks for sharing! thanks to fylon also
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TSraymond5105	May 12 2009, 09:25 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #86
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	Helo all,i've just got a new toy...HD2600XT....
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edministrator	May 12 2009, 10:29 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #87
Regular Senior Member 1,940 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Soviet Sarawak	QUOTE(raymond5105 @ May 12 2009, 09:25 PM) Helo all,i've just got a new toy...HD2600XT.... for your p4? Please tell us more on the performance increase compared to previous setup! P/S: i also got a new toy TRUE120 paired with cm 90cfm fan, i need to bath now, all sweaty due to the installation job. Running my rig @ 9x370 = 3330core/888mem from 9x266 = 2400core/800mem. currently priming for stability This post has been edited by edministrator: May 12 2009, 10:36 PM
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duncan880409	May 12 2009, 10:32 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #88
Like Working in My Lab ^^ Senior Member 3,700 posts Joined: May 2007 From: KT/UTM Skudai	QUOTE(raymond5105 @ May 12 2009, 09:25 PM) Helo all,i've just got a new toy...HD2600XT.... AGP HD2600XT??? or??
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TSraymond5105	May 12 2009, 10:53 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #89
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	QUOTE(edministrator @ May 12 2009, 10:29 PM) for your p4? Please tell us more on the performance increase compared to previous setup! P/S: i also got a new toy TRUE120 paired with cm 90cfm fan, i need to bath now, all sweaty due to the installation job. Running my rig @ 9x370 = 3330core/888mem from 9x266 = 2400core/800mem. currently priming for stability Brother,i need to download 3D mark 06 to benchmark it. Research a bit from internet there,should be able to get close to 5k. On sound,that's pretty great,fidelity is great even on my lousy speakers. 3GB of RAM can feel the system is smoother in response. QUOTE(duncan880409 @ May 12 2009, 10:32 PM) AGP HD2600XT??? or?? AGP .
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edministrator	May 12 2009, 11:25 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #90
Regular Senior Member 1,940 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Soviet Sarawak	bro ray, since u have 3GB RAM (very cool for a s478), high end AGP card and a nice Audigy 2, u can try loading windows vista SP2 just for kicks, who knows it will give your rig a new life/perspective. ATI runs well on vista compared to nvidia for older generation cards. btw, i dun k about 3dmark scores, it is the in game fps which is more important and practical. This post has been edited by edministrator: May 12 2009, 11:27 PM
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TSraymond5105	May 12 2009, 11:32 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #91
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	@edmin,now i have no games to play with.Guess need to take games from my friends around. I believe the GC should be performing better than ATI 9550 very much. Added on May 12, 2009, 11:32 pmOn Vista,i also need to get from others too. I have no installer for Vista. Added on May 13, 2009, 8:57 am@edmin,are you using vista now?Need some feedback from users. This post has been edited by raymond5105: May 13 2009, 08:57 AM
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dlwl	May 13 2009, 09:42 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #92
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 4,789 posts Joined: Aug 2005 From: Ipoh <---> Kuala Lumpur	it should outperform 9550 by a very big margin why don't try windows 7 straight away?
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Jcsy	May 13 2009, 09:49 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #93
Frag First! Think Later? Senior Member 2,782 posts Joined: Feb 2006 From: BANGSARian	last night i tried turning off my HT on Prescott 3.0ghz Hyper PI results were about 1 minute 17 seconds i tried turning it back on my HT on Prescott 3.0ghz Hyper PI results were about 1 minute without HT, i was spiking up to 100% , as if Windows did not know how 2 manage resources properly with HT, one proc was spiking to 50% and i had remaining processor to still use windows and navigate
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edministrator	May 13 2009, 10:04 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #94
Regular Senior Member 1,940 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Soviet Sarawak	QUOTE(raymond5105 @ May 12 2009, 11:32 PM) @edmin,now i have no games to play with.Guess need to take games from my friends around. I believe the GC should be performing better than ATI 9550 very much. Added on May 12, 2009, 11:32 pmOn Vista,i also need to get from others too. I have no installer for Vista. Added on May 13, 2009, 8:57 am@edmin,are you using vista now?Need some feedback from users. i m using vista SP2 on my office notebook, DELL 9100 with the spec of p4 s478 3.0Ghz HT, 1GB DDR400 and ATI 9700 Mobility (same as 9600XT). It is very responsive, and the 3D performance is similar to previous XP OS. Maybe the drivers and OS kernel of Vista has improved since its initial release. This post has been edited by edministrator: May 13 2009, 10:10 AM
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TSraymond5105	May 13 2009, 10:09 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #95
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	QUOTE(dlwl @ May 13 2009, 09:42 AM) it should outperform 9550 by a very big margin why don't try windows 7 straight away? I thought Windows 7 is on RC3 only? They have made a full release on Windows 7 ? Yeah, HD2600XT should outperform 9550 with a huge margin. QUOTE(Jcsy @ May 13 2009, 09:49 AM) last night i tried turning off my HT on Prescott 3.0ghz Hyper PI results were about 1 minute 17 seconds i tried turning it back on my HT on Prescott 3.0ghz Hyper PI results were about 1 minute without HT, i was spiking up to 100% , as if Windows did not know how 2 manage resources properly with HT, one proc was spiking to 50% and i had remaining processor to still use windows and navigate HT and non-HT really make some different in real life performance.No doubt with it. QUOTE(edministrator @ May 13 2009, 10:04 AM) i m using vista SP2 on my office notebook, DELL 9100 with the spec of p4 s478 3.0Ghz HT, 1GB DDR400 and ATI 9700 Mobility (same as 9600XT). It is very responsive, and the 3D performance is similar to previous XP OS. Maybe the drivers and OS kernel of Vista has improved since its initial release. Then i might need to get myself a copy to install on it.Now i don't have a copy with me.
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edministrator	May 13 2009, 10:11 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #96
Regular Senior Member 1,940 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Soviet Sarawak	QUOTE(raymond5105 @ May 13 2009, 10:09 AM) Then i might need to get myself a copy to install on it.Now i don't have a copy with me. i also installed Vista SP2 on my P4-M at home as a Torrent rig, wiped off XP OS from it last weekend. The network performance is a lot faster (tested by copying GBs of files from the notebook to my main rig) compared to previous Vista SP1 I have installed before on this very same notebook. Running modded Bitcomet on XP will render the notebook unable to do anything else (stutters and lags pretty bad due to resources usage with 512MB RAM). Since I have installed Vista SP2, the notebook's fan does not spin up as frequently as before, and I can surf and listen to mp3s while torrenting now. I believe the new kernel optimizes and balances system resources usage.
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fylon	May 13 2009, 10:20 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #97
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	@Ray Just spotted on ya rigs. Nice upgrade huh... Same SC as mine, and a huge graphic processing unit enhanced. Guess ur going to stick with ur P4 for anther 5 yrs with this setup? Haha.. Honestly, ur specs is enough for vista dy.. Me a & edmin were running on SP2 atm (i get from him). no doubt on the network performance. U can may can have a try.
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Jcsy	May 13 2009, 10:22 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #98
Frag First! Think Later? Senior Member 2,782 posts Joined: Feb 2006 From: BANGSARian	yup , HT does make a difference in real life performance and situations without HT, opening each programs causes 100% cpu usage, which spikes and slows down every other thing, even the mouse movement however recent indicators mention that dual cores and quad cores dont really have HT on because of confclits and slowdowns not the case for my s478
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fylon	May 13 2009, 10:25 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #99
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	QUOTE(Jcsy @ May 13 2009, 10:22 AM) yup , HT does make a difference in real life performance and situations without HT, opening each programs causes 100% cpu usage, which spikes and slows down every other thing, even the mouse movement however recent indicators mention that dual cores and quad cores dont really have HT on because of confclits and slowdowns not the case for my s478 Just some correction here. FYI all batch of C2D / C2Q before I7 are all none HT. They are running on 1 core 1 thread. This post has been edited by fylon: May 13 2009, 10:30 AM
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edministrator	May 13 2009, 10:34 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #100
Regular Senior Member 1,940 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Soviet Sarawak	@jcsy, Hyper Threading (HT)= virtual core your 'recent indications' comes from where? source please, i hope it is not your personal view only since this is a very 'factual' statement. conflicts and slowdowns are not the reasons why S775 does not include HT technology. Simply because it already has PHYSICAL multicore, so leaving HT technology out would enable them to roll out the s775 cpus faster to the market and keep the price tag down, and sees no point in having HT at that point of time. Hence we have the new i7 s1366 nowadays that is architecturally different from previous generations of CPU to justify for the premium cost. This post has been edited by edministrator: May 13 2009, 10:35 AM
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dlwl	May 13 2009, 10:40 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #101
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 4,789 posts Joined: Aug 2005 From: Ipoh <---> Kuala Lumpur	QUOTE(raymond5105 @ May 13 2009, 10:09 AM) I thought Windows 7 is on RC3 only? They have made a full release on Windows 7 ? Yeah, HD2600XT should outperform 9550 with a huge margin. yeah, now still RC. but can consider close to full release already can be used for a year, by that time the full release should be out then. just waiting for the right time to make the jump to win7, now too much docs on my pc. a lil bit sayang to format
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TSraymond5105	May 13 2009, 10:45 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #102
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	QUOTE(edministrator @ May 13 2009, 10:11 AM) i also installed Vista SP2 on my P4-M at home as a Torrent rig, wiped off XP OS from it last weekend. The network performance is a lot faster (tested by copying GBs of files from the notebook to my main rig) compared to previous Vista SP1 I have installed before on this very same notebook. Running modded Bitcomet on XP will render the notebook unable to do anything else (stutters and lags pretty bad due to resources usage with 512MB RAM). Since I have installed Vista SP2, the notebook's fan does not spin up as frequently as before, and I can surf and listen to mp3s while torrenting now. I believe the new kernel optimizes and balances system resources usage. Then i should get a SP2 Vista,not SP1. I spotted the loading time when entering Windows has improved a lot. QUOTE(fylon @ May 13 2009, 10:20 AM) @Ray Just spotted on ya rigs. Nice upgrade huh... Same SC as mine, and a huge graphic processing unit enhanced. Guess ur going to stick with ur P4 for anther 5 yrs with this setup? Haha.. Honestly, ur specs is enough for vista dy.. Me a & edmin were running on SP2 atm (i get from him). no doubt on the network performance. U can may can have a try. @fylon,not sure though. Now i see that the GC is able to contribute while playing HD movies. I'm in the middle to look for low cpu loading with GC' rendering. I suspect my previous k-lite codec is blocking the gc from rendering,found some movie is still utilizing about 50% of my cpu resources. Maybe as you say another few years. 5 years later,maybe straight forward go to Quadcore i7. QUOTE(Jcsy @ May 13 2009, 10:22 AM) yup , HT does make a difference in real life performance and situations without HT, opening each programs causes 100% cpu usage, which spikes and slows down every other thing, even the mouse movement however recent indicators mention that dual cores and quad cores dont really have HT on because of confclits and slowdowns not the case for my s478 HT is useful on our single core proc,dual core proc isn't necessary to have it. Added on May 13, 2009, 10:46 am QUOTE(dlwl @ May 13 2009, 10:40 AM) yeah, now still RC. but can consider close to full release already can be used for a year, by that time the full release should be out then. just waiting for the right time to make the jump to win7, now too much docs on my pc. a lil bit sayang to format What's the feedback on RC copy? I heard people said it's better than Vista too. This post has been edited by raymond5105: May 13 2009, 10:46 AM
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Jcsy	May 13 2009, 10:49 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #103
Frag First! Think Later? Senior Member 2,782 posts Joined: Feb 2006 From: BANGSARian	as i was reading up on HT for i7 which i wanted to build, it was mentioned that duals and quads had disabled their HTs for better efficiency while doing this reading i also found that HT for our P4 had some bad side effects, depending on the tasks run some of the i7 overclockers in disabled their HT, which tend to affect overclocking and pure performance in some situations other than that i7 is just a quad, with HT (indicating that intel decided to bring back a new HT which is new and better) comparing to our virtual core our virtual core doesnt and will never compare to a physical core as our lga 775 successors @raymond, on the i7 it was brought back so hence i guess its good , even if its physical core a quad with HT brings about new considerations however doesnt affect overall performance much in gaming in encryption and others, HT does make a difference, regardless of S478 or i7 my personal view on HT on our S478 definitely helps in terms of our performance but arguably less on the i7 quads This post has been edited by Jcsy: May 13 2009, 10:52 AM
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TSraymond5105	May 13 2009, 11:39 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #104
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	@Jcsy,i would say HT on our proc is still pros > cons. You can imagine that 1 core with 1 thread and 1 core with 2 threads + 2 cores and 2 threads. They do have different performance on it. Don't mention quad core here,it's not comparable with single core + HT.
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edministrator	May 13 2009, 11:49 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #105
Regular Senior Member 1,940 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Soviet Sarawak	ray, u hit the spot~! that's what we all have been trying 2 say all these while. simple scenario: a motorbike. can carry 2 person max, consider this HT. you will only need 2 make one trip for 2 person. but if u r looking for speed, then one person on the motorbike will be the best for speed achievements. Pros and cons of HT. So HT plays a more significant role in single core compared to multicores (motorbike compared to bus, lorry, etc.) This post has been edited by edministrator: May 13 2009, 11:53 AM
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dlwl	May 13 2009, 11:56 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #106
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 4,789 posts Joined: Aug 2005 From: Ipoh <---> Kuala Lumpur	QUOTE(raymond5105 @ May 13 2009, 10:45 AM) What's the feedback on RC copy? I heard people said it's better than Vista too. so far i've read around the web, reviews have been good and mostly positive. seems to be faster and nicer to use compared to vista. but some people also did mentioned that win7 is a gui-improved vista
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edministrator	May 13 2009, 12:02 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #107
Regular Senior Member 1,940 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Soviet Sarawak	QUOTE(dlwl @ May 13 2009, 11:56 AM) so far i've read around the web, reviews have been good and mostly positive. seems to be faster and nicer to use compared to vista. but some people also did mentioned that win7 is a gui-improved vista how's your quest for quaddies? getting it from beginner?
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dlwl	May 13 2009, 12:18 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #108
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 4,789 posts Joined: Aug 2005 From: Ipoh <---> Kuala Lumpur	QUOTE(edministrator @ May 13 2009, 12:02 PM) how's your quest for quaddies? getting it from beginner? not sure yet. now got other problems to think of graphic card giving some headache, overheating frequently. don't know due to hot weather or other things. maybe need to change my gc or casing already.
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astria	May 13 2009, 12:40 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #109
an apple a day keeps the doctor away Senior Member 22,158 posts Joined: Aug 2008 From: Singapore	QUOTE(edministrator @ May 13 2009, 11:49 AM) ray, u hit the spot~! that's what we all have been trying 2 say all these while. simple scenario: a motorbike. can carry 2 person max, consider this HT. you will only need 2 make one trip for 2 person. but if u r looking for speed, then one person on the motorbike will be the best for speed achievements. Pros and cons of HT. So HT plays a more significant role in single core compared to multicores (motorbike compared to bus, lorry, etc.) afaik, HT, be it the old one or new one, is still pretty much apps dependent... it still requires optimization from the software to make use of HT, else it's negative on the apps (games are the example)... but heck, Intel already stressed many times that i7 was not designed for gamers but workstations and servers instead...
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TSraymond5105	May 13 2009, 12:51 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #110
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	QUOTE(edministrator @ May 13 2009, 11:49 AM) ray, u hit the spot~! that's what we all have been trying 2 say all these while. simple scenario: a motorbike. can carry 2 person max, consider this HT. you will only need 2 make one trip for 2 person. but if u r looking for speed, then one person on the motorbike will be the best for speed achievements. Pros and cons of HT. So HT plays a more significant role in single core compared to multicores (motorbike compared to bus, lorry, etc.) @edmin,a very good scenario with a direct & clear info here. I'm very happy with my rig now,the 3GB of RAM really boost a lot from 1GB. I google that the kignston RAM i got is also a gem,can do 250MHz. QUOTE(edministrator @ May 13 2009, 12:02 PM) how's your quest for quaddies? getting it from beginner? Opps edmin,dak gatal tangan? QUOTE(dlwl @ May 13 2009, 12:18 PM) not sure yet. now got other problems to think of graphic card giving some headache, overheating frequently. don't know due to hot weather or other things. maybe need to change my gc or casing already. Maybe can change the cooling then solve your heat issue? QUOTE(astria @ May 13 2009, 12:40 PM) afaik, HT, be it the old one or new one, is still pretty much apps dependent... it still requires optimization from the software to make use of HT, else it's negative on the apps (games are the example)... but heck, Intel already stressed many times that i7 was not designed for gamers but workstations and servers instead... I agree cause there are many game applications are not beneficial from Ci7.
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dlwl	May 13 2009, 12:56 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #111
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 4,789 posts Joined: Aug 2005 From: Ipoh <---> Kuala Lumpur	QUOTE(raymond5105 @ May 13 2009, 12:51 PM) Opps edmin,dak gatal tangan? Maybe can change the cooling then solve your heat issue? not edmin, it's me that gatal tangan most probably might change my casing to one with better airflow, current casing quite tight already.
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TSraymond5105	May 13 2009, 12:57 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #112
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	QUOTE(dlwl @ May 13 2009, 12:56 PM) not edmin, it's me that gatal tangan most probably might change my casing to one with better airflow, current casing quite tight already. OH yeah,edmin is on Xeon. Get a nice offer from beginner?
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edministrator	May 13 2009, 01:01 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #113
Regular Senior Member 1,940 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Soviet Sarawak	QUOTE(astria @ May 13 2009, 12:40 PM) afaik, HT, be it the old one or new one, is still pretty much apps dependent... it still requires optimization from the software to make use of HT, else it's negative on the apps (games are the example)... but heck, Intel already stressed many times that i7 was not designed for gamers but workstations and servers instead... u r absolutely right. workstations and servers benefits the most from this tech. Databases and similar applications do not need pure raw power, instead they need multithreading/multitasking efficiency for I/O purposes. so if a quad becomes octa virtually, the load balancing for all cores (no matter physical or virtual since during the peak load; unlikely no core will hit 100% usage) will do a superb job there. This post has been edited by edministrator: May 13 2009, 01:03 PM
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Jcsy	May 13 2009, 01:12 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #114
Frag First! Think Later? Senior Member 2,782 posts Joined: Feb 2006 From: BANGSARian	but like my own personal review, i said HT was better on our single core i can feel total slowdowns without it boohoo dual and quad didnt have that, thats all
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voscar	May 13 2009, 02:17 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #115
Regular Senior Member 1,526 posts Joined: Dec 2005	Hi Jcsy, since you comparing the HT-on and HT-off performance, do you mind to compare the performances of HT-on and HT-off using the Fritz Benchmark program? The Fritz Benchmark program utilizes the multicores while I heard the SuperPI test only utilizes single core. Post your findout here. My P4 is non-HT so I can't compare. Thanks. http://www.jens.tauchclub-krems.at/diverse...benchmarks.html
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TSraymond5105	May 13 2009, 02:27 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #116
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	QUOTE(voscar @ May 13 2009, 02:17 PM) Hi Jcsy, since you comparing the HT-on and HT-off performance, do you mind to compare the performances of HT-on and HT-off using the Fritz Benchmark program? The Fritz Benchmark program utilizes the multicores while I heard the SuperPI test only utilizes single core. Post your findout here. My P4 is non-HT so I can't compare. Thanks. http://www.jens.tauchclub-krems.at/diverse...benchmarks.html You are correct,the software does utilize multi core for benchmarking. Super PI will only utilize up to 50% of your core with HT enable.
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Jcsy	May 13 2009, 02:35 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #117
Frag First! Think Later? Senior Member 2,782 posts Joined: Feb 2006 From: BANGSARian	the results from Super PI with HT (50%) was actually faster than without HT (100%) ! lol ok will try that out tonight
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dlwl	May 13 2009, 06:48 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #118
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 4,789 posts Joined: Aug 2005 From: Ipoh <---> Kuala Lumpur	QUOTE(raymond5105 @ May 13 2009, 12:57 PM) OH yeah,edmin is on Xeon. Get a nice offer from beginner? the offer can be considered quite reasonable also, coz i also offered my E4400 for trade. but now most probably i'll settle my GC issue first btw, is it possible to RMA a overheating card?
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edministrator	May 13 2009, 07:00 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #119
Regular Senior Member 1,940 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Soviet Sarawak	QUOTE(dlwl @ May 13 2009, 06:48 PM) the offer can be considered quite reasonable also, coz i also offered my E4400 for trade. but now most probably i'll settle my GC issue first btw, is it possible to RMA a overheating card? yes, within warranty period. just tell them what problem you faced for the card, and don't say anything unnecessary, hehe...
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dlwl	May 13 2009, 07:01 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #120
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 4,789 posts Joined: Aug 2005 From: Ipoh <---> Kuala Lumpur	unnecessary stuff like?
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edministrator	May 13 2009, 07:53 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #121
Regular Senior Member 1,940 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Soviet Sarawak	QUOTE(dlwl @ May 13 2009, 07:01 PM) unnecessary stuff like? like 'i think it overheats'. If they are lazy to warranty for u they will just tell u to change your casing for better airflow. my advice is, always act like a noob, lol.
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astria	May 13 2009, 08:07 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #122
an apple a day keeps the doctor away Senior Member 22,158 posts Joined: Aug 2008 From: Singapore	Socket 478 owners (especially gamers), good news for u all... http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=1029198 PowerColor Radeon HD 4770 AGP...
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TSraymond5105	May 13 2009, 08:32 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #123
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	QUOTE(astria @ May 13 2009, 08:07 PM) Socket 478 owners (especially gamers), good news for u all... http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=1029198 PowerColor Radeon HD 4770 AGP... I loled. Another AGP card for S478. Thought HD3850 is the last AGP card already.
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dlwl	May 13 2009, 09:18 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #124
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 4,789 posts Joined: Aug 2005 From: Ipoh <---> Kuala Lumpur	hohoho...another breath of life into AGP systems
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TSraymond5105	May 13 2009, 09:23 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #125
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	But the card is dirt cheap man. Almost the same price with PCI-E one if coverts directly.
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TSraymond5105	May 13 2009, 09:27 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #126
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	I just ran 3D mark 06 by using the default setting on the software. Just score 3k+ with 1280*1024 resolution. Picture 1: Picture 2: Picture 3: Picture 4: My cpu has no juice to run CPU test.3D mark 06 is damn crazy ! Stress a lot on CPU.
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edministrator	May 13 2009, 09:45 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #127
Regular Senior Member 1,940 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Soviet Sarawak	gg, ray, lol. this area is where s478 shows it's age...
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fylon	May 13 2009, 09:49 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #128
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	@ray Dont run 3dmark 06 la.. Will jut make u sad with old sch system. GG! Try 3dmark 03 and compare with ur old one. Should be have a big improve.
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TSraymond5105	May 13 2009, 09:50 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #129
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	QUOTE(edministrator @ May 13 2009, 09:45 PM) gg, ray, lol. this area is where s478 shows it's age... The resolution is damn suffer for my proc. Standard 1024768 i guess still be able to work better. Added on May 13, 2009, 9:59 pm QUOTE(fylon @ May 13 2009, 09:49 PM) @ray Dont run 3dmark 06 la.. Will jut make u sad with old sch system. GG! Try 3dmark 03 and compare with ur old one. Should be have a big improve. Just now while replying half way,the electricity cut off for 5 seconds. My whole area was black off. I ran 3D mark 03 just now,the screen froze at CPU 2 test.Not sure why. Suspect my copy has a bit problem. 3D mark 06 can screen through all the test,i don't think is my system instable. I would expecting a 12k on 3D mark 03 if can run finish on all test. This post has been edited by raymond5105*: May 13 2009, 09:59 PM
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edministrator	May 13 2009, 10:09 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #130
Regular Senior Member 1,940 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Soviet Sarawak	@fylon, wtf r u saying la..if u wan to see GREAT scores, try 3dmark 2k or 2k1. sure reach 10K+, lol.
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TSraymond5105	May 13 2009, 10:15 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #131
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	QUOTE(edministrator @ May 13 2009, 10:09 PM) @fylon, wtf r u saying la..if u wan to see GREAT scores, try 3dmark 2k or 2k1. sure reach 10K+, lol. wtf? Have no idea with this.Only can get 10k for 3D mark o3? FX5900 also can reach 6k..i guess should be able to get >10k.
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dlwl	May 13 2009, 10:22 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #132
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 4,789 posts Joined: Aug 2005 From: Ipoh <---> Kuala Lumpur	the best is no need to run at all just be happy with what you've got
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edministrator	May 13 2009, 10:29 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #133
Regular Senior Member 1,940 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Soviet Sarawak	QUOTE(dlwl @ May 13 2009, 10:22 PM) the best is no need to run at all just be happy with what you've got no no...the best is i7 and some dual gpu solutions.... lol anyway for s470, getting a 4770 purely bottleneck already, haha... This post has been edited by edministrator: May 13 2009, 10:31 PM
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TSraymond5105	May 13 2009, 10:37 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #134
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	QUOTE(edministrator @ May 13 2009, 10:29 PM) no no...the best is i7 and some dual gpu solutions.... lol anyway for s470, getting a 4770 purely bottleneck already, haha... This is a serious bottleneck. Not really encourage to get it.But the price is quite cheap.
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TSraymond5105	May 13 2009, 10:41 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #135
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	Now i'm trying to fold with my GPU. Damn a smart gpu here.The folding process is quite fast. First view: Second view:
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fylon	May 13 2009, 11:10 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #136
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	QUOTE(edministrator @ May 13 2009, 10:09 PM) @fylon, wtf r u saying la..if u wan to see GREAT scores, try 3dmark 2k or 2k1. sure reach 10K+, lol. LOL.. Ray, WTF = what the fa*k! Well well.. Totally agreed with dlwl. Better dont run la.. Making u feel sad sia! Haha... After i change to 88GTS, i never run any graphic benchmark liao. Just wanna keep myself happy.
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edministrator	May 13 2009, 11:20 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #137
Regular Senior Member 1,940 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Soviet Sarawak	QUOTE(fylon @ May 13 2009, 11:10 PM) LOL.. Ray, WTF = what the fak! Well well.. Totally agreed with dlwl. Better dont run la.. Making u feel sad sia! Haha... After i change to 88GTS, i never run any graphic benchmark liao. Just wanna keep myself happy. make yourself happy? u r running frm reality! u just cannot accept the truth such as these words i m gonna say to you now; my 260GTX+ roXXOrz than your 8800GTS! lol...jk lah... ray, can we fold with gpu+cpu at the same time? This post has been edited by edministrator*: May 13 2009, 11:21 PM
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astria	May 13 2009, 11:24 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #138
an apple a day keeps the doctor away Senior Member 22,158 posts Joined: Aug 2008 From: Singapore	QUOTE(edministrator @ May 13 2009, 11:20 PM) make yourself happy? u r running frm reality! u just cannot accept the truth such as these words i m gonna say to you now; my 260GTX+ roXXOrz than your 8800GTS! lol...jk lah... ray, can we fold with gpu+cpu at the same time? problem with ATi core of FAH is that it will take up 1 core of the CPU... not sure if they solved the problem in HD 4000 though...
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fylon	May 13 2009, 11:29 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #139
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	@edmin O/T: Off topic dy la! Btw, dont see the result, no sad then happy lo. Sh*t! Tonight go robe ur 260! Hahah! P/s: Got the SS kit. Rox man.. Easy as 123 to take off & put the HSF!
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TSraymond5105	May 13 2009, 11:34 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #140
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	QUOTE(fylon @ May 13 2009, 11:10 PM) LOL.. Ray, WTF = what the fak! Well well.. Totally agreed with dlwl. Better dont run la.. Making u feel sad sia! Haha... After i change to 88GTS, i never run any graphic benchmark liao. Just wanna keep myself happy. Not running benchmark can be happy one? lol,i always want to know my system performance there. QUOTE(edministrator @ May 13 2009, 11:20 PM) make yourself happy? u r running frm reality! u just cannot accept the truth such as these words i m gonna say to you now; my 260GTX+ roXXOrz than your 8800GTS! lol...jk lah... ray, can we fold with gpu+cpu at the same time? edmin,can fold together but the software seems like hooking up another portion of gpu here.Don't know why. QUOTE(astria @ May 13 2009, 11:24 PM) problem with ATi core of FAH is that it will take up 1 core of the CPU... not sure if they solved the problem in HD 4000 though... I've adjusted the cpu utilization at 10-20% only.Haha. QUOTE(fylon @ May 13 2009, 11:29 PM) @edmin O/T: Off topic dy la! Btw, dont see the result, no sad then happy lo. Sht! Tonight go robe ur 260! Hahah! P/s: Got the SS kit. Rox man.. Easy as 123 to take off & put the HSF! Mr. edmin is with GTX260? Mr. edmin,do you fold?
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edministrator	May 13 2009, 11:38 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #141
Regular Senior Member 1,940 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Soviet Sarawak	@ray planned to fold, have not started to look into folding details. yes, i m with 260GTX+, FYI.
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dlwl	May 13 2009, 11:43 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #142
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 4,789 posts Joined: Aug 2005 From: Ipoh <---> Kuala Lumpur	i fold too, but i got too lazy to do it after some time..
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astria	May 13 2009, 11:44 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #143
an apple a day keeps the doctor away Senior Member 22,158 posts Joined: Aug 2008 From: Singapore	folding on all my 3 rigs... 2 SMP (E6550 & 720BE), 1 GPU (8600GT) and 1 CPU (PM 725)
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Mr.Crazy	May 14 2009, 03:51 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #144
New Member Junior Member 37 posts Joined: Sep 2006	16)Mr.Crazy - 2.4GHz @ Stock \| MSI 845PE Max \| 2*512MBKingstom ddr400 \| Nvidia GeForce FX5200 128MB regarding to this spec, can the thread owner help me edit a little bit about that, coz this set of hardware were change something due to motherboard broken down..... help me change the spec to: 2.4GHz Northwood 533FSB Stock, Biostar P4M900-M4 VIA P4M900 Chipset motherboard, 2GB Apache DDR2-667 DIMM, Nvidia GeForce 8600GT 256MB GDDR3.......
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kabukiawie	May 14 2009, 07:41 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #145
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 2,039 posts Joined: Jan 2003	i planning to let go my 2.4A prescott and 2.8C northwood 800fsb. feel free to drop me a pm if have interest. @mr. crazy still using 2.4b?? quite a nice spec just the cpu a bit out of juice for your 8600gt.
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edministrator	May 14 2009, 08:23 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #146
Regular Senior Member 1,940 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Soviet Sarawak	p4 users rejoice, those that need high end cooling for s478, or looking out to building a HTPC rig, here's a good news for u: http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=1028663&hl=
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TSraymond5105	May 14 2009, 08:59 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #147
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	QUOTE(edministrator @ May 13 2009, 11:38 PM) @ray planned to fold, have not started to look into folding details. yes, i m with 260GTX+, FYI. Just tested my GC,it's quite nice to fold it.The max operation of my gc is about 119 operation/s. QUOTE(dlwl @ May 13 2009, 11:43 PM) i fold too, but i got too lazy to do it after some time.. Too lazy to why?Contribute to our world a bit. QUOTE(astria @ May 13 2009, 11:44 PM) folding on all my 3 rigs... 2 SMP (E6550 & 720BE), 1 GPU (8600GT) and 1 CPU (PM 725) Hoho,all your rigs are using to fold? QUOTE(Mr.Crazy @ May 14 2009, 03:51 AM) 16)Mr.Crazy - 2.4GHz @ Stock \| MSI 845PE Max \| 2*512MBKingstom ddr400 \| Nvidia GeForce FX5200 128MB regarding to this spec, can the thread owner help me edit a little bit about that, coz this set of hardware were change something due to motherboard broken down..... help me change the spec to: 2.4GHz Northwood 533FSB Stock, Biostar P4M900-M4 VIA P4M900 Chipset motherboard, 2GB Apache DDR2-667 DIMM, Nvidia GeForce 8600GT 256MB GDDR3....... Mr. Crazy,edited your specs on the first page.
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fylon	May 14 2009, 09:26 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #148
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	Haha.. I think edmin lazy is because he dont want to contribute much to Sesco (East Msia electric power supply company, like TNB in West Msia). Anyways guys, some feedback for Windows 7. Currently were using the RC released version, so far so good. Fast & more responsive compare with vista. Tonight will try file transfer.
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TSraymond5105	May 14 2009, 10:04 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #149
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	@fylon,the fact is like that.Don't want to contribute to TNB. I will give a try on Vista and Windows 7 progressively since there are positive comments from users.Meanwhile,do you fold too?
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astria	May 14 2009, 10:10 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #150
an apple a day keeps the doctor away Senior Member 22,158 posts Joined: Aug 2008 From: Singapore	QUOTE(raymond5105 @ May 14 2009, 08:59 AM) Hoho,all your rigs are using to fold? lol, we re basically contributing by doing nothing... so y not???
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TSraymond5105	May 14 2009, 10:12 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #151
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	QUOTE(astria @ May 14 2009, 10:10 AM) lol, we re basically contributing by doing nothing... so y not??? I agree. I will begin to fold when my rig is idling.
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dlwl	May 14 2009, 11:25 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #152
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 4,789 posts Joined: Aug 2005 From: Ipoh <---> Kuala Lumpur	QUOTE(raymond5105 @ May 14 2009, 08:59 AM) Too lazy to why?Contribute to our world a bit. yeah, ran for some time. then i ran into some problems with the stats and my account..and i cant really get it solved, so didnt really fold much already.
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TSraymond5105	May 14 2009, 11:31 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #153
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	QUOTE(dlwl @ May 14 2009, 11:25 AM) yeah, ran for some time. then i ran into some problems with the stats and my account..and i cant really get it solved, so didnt really fold much already. Not a big deal with account,can always create a new one. I personally have 2 accounts too which was created accidentally last time.
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voscar	May 14 2009, 06:00 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #154
Regular Senior Member 1,526 posts Joined: Dec 2005	QUOTE(Jcsy @ May 13 2009, 02:35 PM) the results from Super PI with HT (50%) was actually faster than without HT (100%) ! lol ok will try that out tonight Hi Jcsy, so how's your finding? What are the scores for HT-on and HT-off in Fritz Benchmark? Did the HT wins by a large margin?
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Jcsy	May 14 2009, 06:09 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #155
Frag First! Think Later? Senior Member 2,782 posts Joined: Feb 2006 From: BANGSARian	i havent had the time to do it actually , seriously i would probably tonight, now gotta get some rest after a hectic long day
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TSraymond5105	May 14 2009, 09:19 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #156
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	QUOTE(voscar @ May 14 2009, 06:00 PM) Hi Jcsy, so how's your finding? What are the scores for HT-on and HT-off in Fritz Benchmark? Did the HT wins by a large margin? I guess the Fritz benchmark will win by a little bit margin,not huge one.
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Jcsy	May 15 2009, 02:44 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #157
Frag First! Think Later? Senior Member 2,782 posts Joined: Feb 2006 From: BANGSARian	http://www.jens.tauchclub-krems.at/diverse...benchmarks.html just opened this benchmark gonna try it out now , brb EDIT with HT on This post has been edited by Jcsy: May 15 2009, 02:59 AM
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TSraymond5105	May 15 2009, 09:09 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #158
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	QUOTE(Jcsy @ May 15 2009, 02:44 AM) http://www.jens.tauchclub-krems.at/diverse...benchmarks.html just opened this benchmark gonna try it out now , brb EDIT with HT on Here was my tested benchmark.Your speed seems like a bit slow. Your proc is putting at stock speed? http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=14980383
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voscar	May 15 2009, 01:06 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #159
Regular Senior Member 1,526 posts Joined: Dec 2005	QUOTE(Jcsy @ May 15 2009, 02:44 AM) http://www.jens.tauchclub-krems.at/diverse...benchmarks.html just opened this benchmark gonna try it out now , brb EDIT with HT on Thanks, still not enough to break the 1,000 record....... How about the score for HT-off?
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TSraymond5105	May 16 2009, 05:13 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #160
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	Hi guys,i've tested my gc at 1024*768 on 3D mark 06. Here's the screenshoot of it.
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kabukiawie	May 16 2009, 11:12 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #161
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 2,039 posts Joined: Jan 2003	wao... 2600XT ooooo..... syok.
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edministrator	May 17 2009, 12:17 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #162
Regular Senior Member 1,940 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Soviet Sarawak	ray, can u post GPUZ screenie pls?
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fiqir	May 17 2009, 12:39 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #163
BE YOURSELF Senior Member 3,810 posts Joined: Jan 2006	mine P4 2.8 died last 3 month ago, now using AMD 7750
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TSraymond5105	May 17 2009, 12:07 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #164
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	QUOTE(edministrator @ May 17 2009, 12:17 AM) ray, can u post GPUZ screenie pls? Here's the GPU-Z screen shot,bascially i've o/c the gc a litttle bit. Added on May 17, 2009, 12:29 pm QUOTE(kabukiawie @ May 16 2009, 11:12 PM) wao... 2600XT ooooo..... syok. kabu,your 7600GS is already sold off? This post has been edited by raymond5105: May 17 2009, 12:29 PM
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e_k1117	May 18 2009, 11:29 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #165
Getting Started Junior Member 276 posts Joined: Mar 2008 From: KedaH	@ray, mind to tell how much u bought it ma? btw, when minimum PSU Watt it need?? does it drag alot of power? Added on May 18, 2009, 12:46 pmFeels like wan to grab 1 also if cheap and my PSU can support This post has been edited by e_k1117: May 18 2009, 12:46 PM
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TSraymond5105	May 18 2009, 12:56 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #166
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	QUOTE(e_k1117 @ May 18 2009, 11:29 AM) @ray, mind to tell how much u bought it ma? btw, when minimum PSU Watt it need?? does it drag alot of power? Added on May 18, 2009, 12:46 pmFeels like wan to grab 1 also if cheap and my PSU can support Hi e_k1117,bought it at about RM200 like that.Well on psu,my Acbel 450w psu can stand for it. I've tested the card with folding running for 5 days. I've no idea with the maximum load on the card,guess won't > 150w on it. Have you bought a new card for yourself? Your psu can't stand with your new card is it?
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e_k1117	May 18 2009, 01:00 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #167
Getting Started Junior Member 276 posts Joined: Mar 2008 From: KedaH	nop. haven buy yet lor..... before this was thinking upgrade PRoc, RAM n mobo. but after think twice and budget not enough, so have to use back my old rig and upgrade the GC that can support DOTA for 24inch LCD with high setting full reso. can 2600xt able to support? sumore i think my PSU not true pwr one..... is peak 450W only...
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fylon	May 18 2009, 01:07 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #168
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	@e_k1117 Normal use should be alright. But if go for OC, then better dont. 2600xt should be enough for ur requirement actually, Dota aint a resource hogging game.
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TSraymond5105	May 18 2009, 01:16 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #169
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	@e_k1117,playing dota with 2600XT should not be a problem for you as fylon said.Your 1.5GB RAM is already enough for gaming,you are planning to upgrade it also?If you are going to upgrade all hardwares,suggest you to get new LGA775 platform already.
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e_k1117	May 18 2009, 01:20 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #170
Getting Started Junior Member 276 posts Joined: Mar 2008 From: KedaH	@ray yaya, at 1st i also think that wan to upgrade to new platform. but then is AMD one. cheaper..... hahaha... coz i just use to play DOTA only...... so feels like is a waste for my old rig if wan to upgrade the whole PC..... feels like not worth as now just use it to watch movie and play dota only...... so now decided to upgrade my GC (<RM150 if posible) for the moment now....
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TSraymond5105	May 18 2009, 01:31 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #171
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	@e_k1117,your P4 3.0HT can't handle the game well? I'm doubt that dota need such high speed processor to play the game.
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e_k1117	May 18 2009, 01:49 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #172
Getting Started Junior Member 276 posts Joined: Mar 2008 From: KedaH	i think is my GC problem. last week i tried to play Dota in 1680x1050 resolution. it lag like hell and my fps only around 20-25 or even worse when all heroes stick together. so i think is my GC problem.
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fylon	May 18 2009, 02:02 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #173
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	3.0G ain't a problem for Dota actually, main concern is the graphic card. 64bit memory interface is not sufficient for 24inch LCD. Somemore on 1680x1050 reso.
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TSraymond5105	May 18 2009, 02:16 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #174
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	QUOTE(fylon @ May 18 2009, 02:02 PM) 3.0G ain't a problem for Dota actually, main concern is the graphic card. 64bit memory interface is not sufficient for 24inch LCD. Somemore on 1680x1050 reso. This is true.64bits of memory interface is really a cripple one. Added on May 18, 2009, 2:28 pm@e_k1117,based on the psu calculatino form web. My system will only load at 257w if CPU and GPU are at 100% loading. So a 450w psu is just nice for handle our old school rig. This post has been edited by raymond5105: May 18 2009, 02:28 PM
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BFGWong	May 18 2009, 06:38 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #175
時代革命 Senior Member 1,998 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Stardust	My last true Socket 478 board died about half a year ago. Got a zombie replacement "945GCM478" from MSI. Unfortunately it have a ghost in it - everyday at 00:00 system clock it will automatically start itself up. I'm wondering among the people here anyone had this experience? Edit: Corrected to 00:00. It will be less scary if it starts up in broad daylight This post has been edited by BFGWong: May 18 2009, 06:45 PM
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TSraymond5105	May 18 2009, 06:48 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #176
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	QUOTE(BFGWong @ May 18 2009, 06:38 PM) My last true Socket 478 board died about half a year ago. Got a zombie replacement "945GCM478" from MSI. Unfortunately it have a ghost in it - everyday at 00:00 system clock it will automatically start itself up. I'm wondering among the people here anyone had this experience? Edit: Corrected to 00:00. It will be less scary if it starts up in broad daylight You did check at the time 00:00 to start up the pc automatically in bios?
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BFGWong	May 18 2009, 07:22 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #177
時代革命 Senior Member 1,998 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Stardust	QUOTE(raymond5105 @ May 18 2009, 06:48 PM) You did check at the time 00:00 to start up the pc automatically in bios? Nope, I did not. And I don't think the basic BIOS that shipped with the board have that function (there are absolutely no OC functions whatsoever) By the way, am looking for another S478 board to replace a broken system (running 2.4GHz Northwood 800Mhz FSB) but unfortunately the replacement market for this venerable (and still very popular!) socket are limited to 2 local manufacturers: 1. Enlight 2. JW Power that only offers 6 months warranty. Does anyone have a good recommendation for a good replacement board that does not feature dodgy looking capacitors with a dodgy warranty period to match?
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e_k1117	May 18 2009, 08:00 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #178
Getting Started Junior Member 276 posts Joined: Mar 2008 From: KedaH	does any one here know why my mobo like tend to forgot the time.... if few days didn't On it, then the time and date will lari alr... does it related to my Battery or others?
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Boneka	May 18 2009, 08:38 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #179
Getting Started Junior Member 89 posts Joined: Apr 2006 From: jowor	my 478 is in agony. i think i wanna change to latest mobo. but idk which version including processor is good. what dya think?
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TSraymond5105	May 18 2009, 09:21 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #180
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	QUOTE(BFGWong @ May 18 2009, 07:22 PM) Nope, I did not. And I don't think the basic BIOS that shipped with the board have that function (there are absolutely no OC functions whatsoever) By the way, am looking for another S478 board to replace a broken system (running 2.4GHz Northwood 800Mhz FSB) but unfortunately the replacement market for this venerable (and still very popular!) socket are limited to 2 local manufacturers: 1. Enlight 2. JW Power that only offers 6 months warranty. Does anyone have a good recommendation for a good replacement board that does not feature dodgy looking capacitors with a dodgy warranty period to match? Enlight and JW Power? Maybe MSI 945G is another alternative choice for you? QUOTE(e_k1117 @ May 18 2009, 08:00 PM) does any one here know why my mobo like tend to forgot the time.... if few days didn't On it, then the time and date will lari alr... does it related to my Battery or others? The battery needs to be replaced. GEt a new one. QUOTE(Boneka @ May 18 2009, 08:38 PM) my 478 is in agony. i think i wanna change to latest mobo. but idk which version including processor is good. what dya think? Which mobo you woud lile to change?
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Boneka	May 18 2009, 11:37 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #181
Getting Started Junior Member 89 posts Joined: Apr 2006 From: jowor	QUOTE(raymond5105 @ May 18 2009, 09:21 PM) Which mobo you woud lile to change? idk atm. kinda noob with the latest comp techs. what mobo has at least 1 ide slot for hardisk? i accidentaly bought new ide hd because i was thought it was my hd fault before. kinda wasted.
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TSraymond5105	May 19 2009, 08:54 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #182
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	QUOTE(Boneka @ May 18 2009, 11:37 PM) idk atm. kinda noob with the latest comp techs. what mobo has at least 1 ide slot for hardisk? i accidentaly bought new ide hd because i was thought it was my hd fault before. kinda wasted. All new mobo has at least 1 IDE slot for either HDD or DVD-ROM. If you are pairing HDD + DVD-ROM together,your HDD will suffer at slow speed.You should have getting a SATA HDD nowadays as IDE type is no longer popular.
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astria	May 19 2009, 05:46 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #183
an apple a day keeps the doctor away Senior Member 22,158 posts Joined: Aug 2008 From: Singapore	A breath of new life for P4??? (for those with HT only though... ) QUOTE Windows 7 to Offer Better Hyper-Threading Support Improved hardware and software compatibility one of the top three goals of Windows 7 development Microsoft is working hard to make things better for the launch of Windows 7 following the lukewarm reception to Windows Vista. Vista was plagued with early hardware and software incompatibility issues that were one of the main reasons enterprise customers refused to migrate from XP. Microsoft says that among the improvements in Windows 7 is better support for Hyper-Threading according to Microsoft's Bill Veghte. Veghte says that Microsoft has been working closely with Intel to beef up Windows 7’s support for Hyper-Threading. Hyper-Threading it a technique used by Intel to allow processing tasks to be divided among multiple cores on a processor. Veghte said at the Microsoft TechEd conference, "The work that we've done in Windows 7 in the scheduler and the core of the system to take full advantage of those capabilities, ultimately we think we can deliver a great and better experience for you. We need to make sure the ecosystem is really, really ready." Veghte is keen to get people to understand that Windows 7 won’t suffer from the same early problems Vista had that prevented the operating system from making headway in enterprise environments. He says that Windows 7 is "very, very close" to achieving full compatibility with virtually all hardware and software makers. Microsoft currently expects to finish Windows 7 by mid-August and offer a final version to consumers and businesses by the holiday shopping season. That is a key target for Microsoft as a better operating system could woo consumers to buy new computers for the holidays. Better computer sales is certainly something that both Microsoft and computer makers need. Microsoft has admitted that Windows sales are down 16% in the most recent fiscal quarter. http://www.dailytech.com/Windows+7+to+Offe...rticle15150.htm
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TSraymond5105	May 19 2009, 07:38 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #184
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	A good news to old school here.I will definately give a try on Windows 7 during the full release.
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Jcsy	May 20 2009, 06:32 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #185
Frag First! Think Later? Senior Member 2,782 posts Joined: Feb 2006 From: BANGSARian	interesting but performance like Windows XP? the Windows 7 release of RC1 already out a few days ago and all my colleagues are trying it out already crazy well, im just back from Bandung Indonesia.. shopping there is so cheap and crazy
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TSraymond5105	May 20 2009, 08:45 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #186
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	QUOTE(Jcsy @ May 20 2009, 06:32 AM) interesting but performance like Windows XP? the Windows 7 release of RC1 already out a few days ago and all my colleagues are trying it out already crazy well, im just back from Bandung Indonesia.. shopping there is so cheap and crazy Then you can seek for their comments about Windows 7 on performance and reliability. Are they using old schools S478 to test out?Bandung shopping is cheap?Then you should have bought a lot.
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Jcsy	May 20 2009, 08:48 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #187
Frag First! Think Later? Senior Member 2,782 posts Joined: Feb 2006 From: BANGSARian	yup , bought alot.. branded stuff RM40-50 =.= they using nice dual cores and stuff leh i will be the ony 1 with S478 system to test W7
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fylon	May 20 2009, 08:50 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #188
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	Am using windows 7 RC right now. Overall i can say is, the performance is not far away from Windows XP. Using C2D T5300 (1.73Ghz, 2MB cache) pair with 2GB ram, over system were smooth like butter. Guess it wont be a problem for P4. Just pity that, most of my networking software (eg. network stumbler) aint still not support it. Will revert back to XP soon.
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TSraymond5105	May 20 2009, 08:54 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #189
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	QUOTE(Jcsy @ May 20 2009, 08:48 AM) yup , bought alot.. branded stuff RM40-50 =.= they using nice dual cores and stuff leh i will be the ony 1 with S478 system to test W7 Branded stuffs only RM40-50? Then we should thanks to our beloved government in charging extreme taxes on us. They use dual core to test?Nice one. QUOTE(fylon @ May 20 2009, 08:50 AM) Am using windows 7 RC right now. Overall i can say is, the performance is not far away from Windows XP. Using C2D T5300 (1.73Ghz, 2MB cache) pair with 2GB ram, over system were smooth like butter. Guess it wont be a problem for P4. Just pity that, most of my networking software (eg. network stumbler) aint still not support it. Will revert back to XP soon. @fylon,don't worry with the networking software. It's still in RC releases. The final copy will be much better than the current one.
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dlwl	May 20 2009, 09:07 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #190
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 4,789 posts Joined: Aug 2005 From: Ipoh <---> Kuala Lumpur	@fylon, you didn't try the win xp mode inside win 7? see if your program works on it
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fylon	May 20 2009, 09:25 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #191
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	@ray Yea. But the RC released is seems to be quite good already. If compare with Vista test previously, my 945G will struggle if Aero enable on Vista. The GUI will be sluggish, but in W7 this doesnt occurred at all. @dlwl No i dont.. Lazy to install on VM, so just directly dump in for testing. But anyways, is a good one. Looking forward for this windows. As im having some AHCI issues with x64 Vista. Still in investigating for this problem. This post has been edited by fylon: May 20 2009, 09:28 AM
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edministrator	May 20 2009, 10:19 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #192
Regular Senior Member 1,940 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Soviet Sarawak	for s478, no matter u have lots of ram or less ram, i highly recommend readyboost flashdrives for your system. this is not to add 'ram' to your pc, but increase responsiveness of your applications. readyboost capable flashdrives in reading and writing small chunks of data is around 10x faster than conventional hard disks. consider it a cache between HDD and RAM. though i have 8GB ram, i m still reaping benefits from 4GB readyboost. btw, only applicable to vista and w7. This post has been edited by edministrator: May 20 2009, 10:21 AM
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TSraymond5105	May 20 2009, 10:28 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #193
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	QUOTE(fylon @ May 20 2009, 09:25 AM) @ray Yea. But the RC released is seems to be quite good already. If compare with Vista test previously, my 945G will struggle if Aero enable on Vista. The GUI will be sluggish, but in W7 this doesnt occurred at all. @dlwl No i dont.. Lazy to install on VM, so just directly dump in for testing. But anyways, is a good one. Looking forward for this windows. As im having some AHCI issues with x64 Vista. Still in investigating for this problem. @fylon,glad to hear feedback from you. The GUI is better than Vista. I heard Vista is more hardware dependent while Windows 7 has better software to work with hardware? QUOTE(edministrator @ May 20 2009, 10:19 AM) for s478, no matter u have lots of ram or less ram, i highly recommend readyboost flashdrives for your system. this is not to add 'ram' to your pc, but increase responsiveness of your applications. readyboost capable flashdrives in reading and writing small chunks of data is around 10x faster than conventional hard disks. consider it a cache between HDD and RAM. though i have 8GB ram, i m still reaping benefits from 4GB readyboost. btw, only applicable to vista and w7. @edmin,what is the optimum flash drive capacity ready boost? 4GB?
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edministrator	May 20 2009, 10:44 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #194
Regular Senior Member 1,940 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Soviet Sarawak	optimum microsoft recommend 2.5:1 or 1:1 ratio. for me, i think get the highest u can go, which is 4GB (max). any higher than that I think would be useless coz of the seek time would be slowed down by huge capacity. w7 has better compatibility because of native windows xp application compatibility mode, but only applicable to CPU with VT, haha...
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dlwl	May 20 2009, 11:06 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #195
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 4,789 posts Joined: Aug 2005 From: Ipoh <---> Kuala Lumpur	QUOTE(edministrator @ May 20 2009, 10:44 AM) w7 has better compatibility because of native windows xp application compatibility mode, but only applicable to CPU with VT, haha... yeah, that's the problem. thought i could jump to win7 and then use win xp mode also, coz i'm afraid that some apps wouldn't work. sadly my proc doesn't support VT. it's kinda funny that it only works on procs with VT, coz i've tried running a few VMs before, no prob running on my proc which doesnt have VT.
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TSraymond5105	May 20 2009, 11:09 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #196
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	VT stuffs seems to be new to me. Is it good to use Win XP in Vista or Windows 7 ? I think old school can't support this.
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astria	May 20 2009, 11:14 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #197
an apple a day keeps the doctor away Senior Member 22,158 posts Joined: Aug 2008 From: Singapore	QUOTE(raymond5105 @ May 20 2009, 11:09 AM) VT stuffs seems to be new to me. Is it good to use Win XP in Vista or Windows 7 ? I think old school can't support this. XP mode needs Intel VT or AMD-V to run...
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TSraymond5105	May 20 2009, 11:20 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #198
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	QUOTE(astria @ May 20 2009, 11:14 AM) XP mode needs Intel VT or AMD-V to run... It's a software from Intel?
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dlwl	May 20 2009, 11:23 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #199
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 4,789 posts Joined: Aug 2005 From: Ipoh <---> Kuala Lumpur	virtualization is a tech built inside the processor. budget range of processors seldom have this tech, commonly omitted by intel, but amd seems to have them in most if not all their processors. some news say that this win7 and winxp mode thingy could play into amd's hands
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edministrator	May 20 2009, 11:25 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #200
Regular Senior Member 1,940 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Soviet Sarawak	@ray VT is a hardware stuff. @dlwl VM software works fine on non VT cpu. the reason why VT is needed in W7, is that it could do hardware level VT instead of using software.
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TSraymond5105	May 20 2009, 11:31 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #201
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	Ar..then forget it already. Old school doesn't come with VT.
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astria	May 20 2009, 11:32 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #202
an apple a day keeps the doctor away Senior Member 22,158 posts Joined: Aug 2008 From: Singapore	AMD-V has been in Athlon x2 for quite some time... Intel VT, on the other hand... low end CPU dun ve it... such as E5000, Q8000... and to make things more confusing, Intel will make E5300 with VT... This post has been edited by astria: May 20 2009, 11:33 AM
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TSraymond5105	May 20 2009, 11:39 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #203
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	Intel is going to implement VT feature in their mid-range products?
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dlwl	May 20 2009, 11:41 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #204
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 4,789 posts Joined: Aug 2005 From: Ipoh <---> Kuala Lumpur	just for the sake of win7 and the market i guess, otherwise those who cant afford higher end procs with VT would start jumping to amd already
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astria	May 20 2009, 11:44 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #205
an apple a day keeps the doctor away Senior Member 22,158 posts Joined: Aug 2008 From: Singapore	more becuz Business users tend to use lower end stuff... although Intel insist that those whoe use vPro platform will ve no problem...
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Jcsy	May 20 2009, 12:17 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #206
Frag First! Think Later? Senior Member 2,782 posts Joined: Feb 2006 From: BANGSARian	yup, RM 40 for a Espirit, Tommy Hilfinger, Paul Smith and many more brands. Depends what kind u are looking for branded shorts, boxers and etc are abour RM25 and they are original la, after doing some 'study' they are mostly factory outlets ( warehouses ) with many stock.. so much fun 2 spend back to W7, most of the softwares vista capable are w7 capable right?
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TSraymond5105	May 20 2009, 01:24 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #207
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	QUOTE(Jcsy @ May 20 2009, 12:17 PM) yup, RM 40 for a Espirit, Tommy Hilfinger, Paul Smith and many more brands. Depends what kind u are looking for branded shorts, boxers and etc are abour RM25 and they are original la, after doing some 'study' they are mostly factory outlets ( warehouses ) with many stock.. so much fun 2 spend back to W7, most of the softwares vista capable are w7 capable right? Gosh so cheap only. Here you will need 4-7x of charges from the price there.You are also interest to move to Windows 7 ?
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Jcsy	May 21 2009, 08:27 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #208
Frag First! Think Later? Senior Member 2,782 posts Joined: Feb 2006 From: BANGSARian	well , i seldom game on my machine already.. thanks 2 limited power of processing so dun mind using new OS
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ac_N1	May 21 2009, 09:15 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #209
brotherhood of the leaves Senior Member 1,029 posts Joined: Apr 2007 From: All Blue	Long time din come here edi. Congratz on reaching V8
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ianho	May 21 2009, 09:40 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #210
Cucimangkoklife VIP 15,705 posts Joined: Mar 2005 From: Tg. Rambutan	Wah still so many ppl with P478 rigs eh? Looks like I hafta revive mine too. Poor fella sitting in the storeroom waiting for a reformat. Only prob is that it only has 512mb ram.
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fylon	May 21 2009, 10:10 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #211
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	@ianho 512mb ram with proper / "Extreme" tweaking should be enough to run winXP butter smooth.
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ianho	May 21 2009, 10:16 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #212
Cucimangkoklife VIP 15,705 posts Joined: Mar 2005 From: Tg. Rambutan	QUOTE(fylon @ May 21 2009, 10:10 AM) @ianho 512mb ram with proper / "Extreme" tweaking should be enough to run winXP butter smooth. I think I will try n use Vista. Then plug in a fast CF card for Ready Boost. Mebe dig around my storeroom a bit n who knows another gb or so of DDR turns up from a deep dark corner. HEhe. Then can continue with XP.
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TSraymond5105	May 21 2009, 10:19 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #213
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	QUOTE(ianho @ May 21 2009, 09:40 AM) Wah still so many ppl with P478 rigs eh? Looks like I hafta revive mine too. Poor fella sitting in the storeroom waiting for a reformat. Only prob is that it only has 512mb ram. Mr. ianho, you have so many rig with you. Solute solute. 512MB of RAM to run on Vista?If you do trying,please let us know the feedback for your P4.
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ianho	May 21 2009, 10:32 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #214
Cucimangkoklife VIP 15,705 posts Joined: Mar 2005 From: Tg. Rambutan	QUOTE(raymond5105 @ May 21 2009, 10:19 AM) Mr. ianho, you have so many rig with you. Solute solute. 512MB of RAM to run on Vista?If you do trying,please let us know the feedback for your P4. I have 5 laptops and 4 PCs at home. Out of those 9 rigs, 2 PCs and 1 laptop are P4. Hehe. I will try 512mb plus a 8gb hi speed CF card set to 3.5gb for ready boost. See how that goes before I dig around the storeroom for more DDR.
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edministrator	May 21 2009, 10:36 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #215
Regular Senior Member 1,940 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Soviet Sarawak	ianho, then pimp the casing for your P4 rig! long time not seeing u pimping casing already...
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TSraymond5105	May 21 2009, 10:43 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #216
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	QUOTE(ianho @ May 21 2009, 10:32 AM) I have 5 laptops and 4 PCs at home. Out of those 9 rigs, 2 PCs and 1 laptop are P4. Hehe. I will try 512mb plus a 8gb hi speed CF card set to 3.5gb for ready boost. See how that goes before I dig around the storeroom for more DDR. So many labtops and PC with you?OMG,your house is occupying with many people?Just curious. Bewtween,i've just read your blog. Nice one.
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ianho	May 21 2009, 10:45 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #217
Cucimangkoklife VIP 15,705 posts Joined: Mar 2005 From: Tg. Rambutan	QUOTE(edministrator @ May 21 2009, 10:36 AM) ianho, then pimp the casing for your P4 rig! long time not seeing u pimping casing already... Hehe. Mebe I build a pink color case with diamond studs everywhere for my daughter's room. Added on May 21, 2009, 10:49 am QUOTE(raymond5105 @ May 21 2009, 10:43 AM) So many labtops and PC with you?OMG,your house is occupying with many people?Just curious. Bewtween,i've just read your blog. Nice one. Watodo, I'm a gadget collecting freak. Hehe This post has been edited by ianho: May 21 2009, 10:49 AM
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TSraymond5105	May 21 2009, 11:16 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #218
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	QUOTE(ianho @ May 21 2009, 10:45 AM) Hehe. Mebe I build a pink color case with diamond studs everywhere for my daughter's room. Added on May 21, 2009, 10:49 am Watodo, I'm a gadget collecting freak. Hehe Pink colour case,nice one.Sure your daughter will like it very much. Gadget collector? Do you have P4 EE with you?
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Jcsy	May 21 2009, 09:24 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #219
Frag First! Think Later? Senior Member 2,782 posts Joined: Feb 2006 From: BANGSARian	QUOTE(ianho @ May 21 2009, 10:16 AM) I think I will try n use Vista. Then plug in a fast CF card for Ready Boost. Mebe dig around my storeroom a bit n who knows another gb or so of DDR turns up from a deep dark corner. HEhe. Then can continue with XP. u should run Windows 7 instead of vista same kernel,much better performance
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ianho	May 21 2009, 10:06 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #220
Cucimangkoklife VIP 15,705 posts Joined: Mar 2005 From: Tg. Rambutan	Just got my museum rig up n running with Vista. It's surprisingly nice n quick. Shocking actually. I never expected this old rig to run Vista so nice n smooth. No overclock sumore coz I reset CMOS to ensure the Windows install goes nicely.
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fylon	May 21 2009, 11:26 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #221
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	@ianho Lol.. As Jcsy says, I bet Windows 7 will run even better with ya rigs. As the kernel are tweaked and run better then vista. There were a video shown one guy running Windows 7 on a Pentium 2 computer.
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ianho	May 22 2009, 12:09 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #222
Cucimangkoklife VIP 15,705 posts Joined: Mar 2005 From: Tg. Rambutan	QUOTE(fylon @ May 21 2009, 11:26 PM) @ianho Lol.. As Jcsy says, I bet Windows 7 will run even better with ya rigs. As the kernel are tweaked and run better then vista. There were a video shown one guy running Windows 7 on a Pentium 2 computer. I know coz I tried Win7 on my HP Mini Note. It was awesome. Nice eye candy like Vista but fast like XP. I lazy to reinstall everything again once the beta time is up though. So I went with Vista for this rig. I just set it up to run on extra 1gb Ready Boost, everything's nice so far. Mebe later when windows gets all cluttered up it will slowdown but for now on fresh install everything's ok.
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Jcsy	May 22 2009, 01:10 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #223
Frag First! Think Later? Senior Member 2,782 posts Joined: Feb 2006 From: BANGSARian	BETA time is 1 year and im sure by then, u would have formatted ur PC once again coz... 1 year for windows is quite long without format lol !!
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dlwl	May 22 2009, 01:22 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #224
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 4,789 posts Joined: Aug 2005 From: Ipoh <---> Kuala Lumpur	well it works for me, i've been thru i think about a year plus without reinstalling xp on my rig. just need consistent maintainance of the windows probably the next time i format will be for windows 7
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ianho	May 22 2009, 07:35 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #225
Cucimangkoklife VIP 15,705 posts Joined: Mar 2005 From: Tg. Rambutan	I never simply format my pcs coz I take care of my windows. N also coz I hate having to call MS n jump tru all those hoops for reactivation. This post has been edited by ianho: May 22 2009, 07:38 AM
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TSraymond5105	May 22 2009, 08:45 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #226
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	@ianho ,the Vista your have installed in just pure OS only? No other applications applied?
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ianho	May 22 2009, 01:32 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #227
Cucimangkoklife VIP 15,705 posts Joined: Mar 2005 From: Tg. Rambutan	QUOTE(raymond5105 @ May 22 2009, 08:45 AM) @ianho ,the Vista your have installed in just pure OS only? No other applications applied? When I took that screenshot it was pure OS + chipset drivers.
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llutephie	May 22 2009, 03:25 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #228
Getting Started Junior Member 149 posts Joined: Aug 2008	Finally! I replace my P4 3.2 to P4 3.4 EE . I am glad to say my hunt is over
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Able.O.S	May 22 2009, 04:04 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #229
Getting Started Junior Member 150 posts Joined: Aug 2006	QUOTE(llutephie @ May 22 2009, 04:25 PM) Finally! I replace my P4 3.2 to P4 3.4 EE . I am glad to say my hunt is over Mind to pm how much u grab that "Jaded babe"? This post has been edited by Able.O.S: May 22 2009, 04:04 PM
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llutephie	May 22 2009, 04:34 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #230
Getting Started Junior Member 149 posts Joined: Aug 2008	QUOTE(Able.O.S @ May 22 2009, 04:04 PM) Mind to pm how much u grab that "Jaded babe"? RM 500..
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TSraymond5105	May 22 2009, 05:51 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #231
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	QUOTE(llutephie @ May 22 2009, 04:34 PM) RM 500.. P4 EE for RM500? Wao...Do this baby work nice with you applications? Put some screen shoots and share with us.
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llutephie	May 22 2009, 07:48 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #232
Getting Started Junior Member 149 posts Joined: Aug 2008	This post has been edited by llutephie: May 22 2009, 07:52 PM
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edministrator	May 22 2009, 08:24 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #233
Regular Senior Member 1,940 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Soviet Sarawak	this is one scary beast for s478, thumbs up~! My salutations 2 u, bro...
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Jcsy	May 22 2009, 10:13 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #234
Frag First! Think Later? Senior Member 2,782 posts Joined: Feb 2006 From: BANGSARian	RM500! thats a quaddie core!! lol but old skool supporters never cease 2 exist upgrade to the max liao , cant go further:D
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llutephie	May 23 2009, 12:02 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #235
Getting Started Junior Member 149 posts Joined: Aug 2008	QUOTE(Jcsy @ May 22 2009, 10:13 PM) RM500! thats a quaddie core!! lol but old skool supporters never cease 2 exist upgrade to the max liao , cant go further:D Suddenly think to upgrade OCZ PC4000 500MHz RAM BTW i think my rig is better now
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TSraymond5105	May 23 2009, 12:46 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #236
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	QUOTE(llutephie @ May 23 2009, 12:02 AM) Suddenly think to upgrade OCZ PC4000 500MHz RAM BTW i think my rig is better now Why OCZ 500MHz?Simply get a Hynix chip based RAM to do the job man. Another cheaper solution.You can run 3D mark to justify how much it's faster compare to your previous 3.2E. Added on May 23, 2009, 12:47 amYour current Kingston RAM can't do DDR500? This post has been edited by raymond5105: May 23 2009, 12:47 AM
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fylon	May 23 2009, 09:14 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #237
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	@llutephie OMG! Finally u found the beast? What a nice hunt down man.. Btw, is it a ES version? Haha.. 500 eh.. Price of a quaddie! Btw, if a year ago u asked me, i do have what u need. My Patriot PDP Extreme PC4200. 533mhz by default, no sweat of doing DDR600. Any benchmark showdown?
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KahLooN	May 23 2009, 11:56 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #238
~(^^)~ Senior Member 704 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Cheras	Wow, long time no drop by and I saw someone post with a P4EE for socket 478. @llutephie I guess your rig is the beast amongst all of us here.
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ianho	May 23 2009, 12:35 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #239
Cucimangkoklife VIP 15,705 posts Joined: Mar 2005 From: Tg. Rambutan	Hehe. Since I'm in a nostalgic fever these past few days. I went to my storeroom, dug out another rig from a deep dark corner n revived another dinosaur. This 1 really dinosaur. P4 1.7ghz, 256mb ram and a big huge 20gb HDD.
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TSraymond5105	May 23 2009, 03:23 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #240
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	QUOTE(ianho @ May 23 2009, 12:35 PM) Hehe. Since I'm in a nostalgic fever these past few days. I went to my storeroom, dug out another rig from a deep dark corner n revived another dinosaur. This 1 really dinosaur. P4 1.7ghz, 256mb ram and a big huge 20gb HDD. @ianho,i do have the same rig as yours but it's a S423 based. It's still working strong since year September 2001.
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ianho	May 23 2009, 03:39 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #241
Cucimangkoklife VIP 15,705 posts Joined: Mar 2005 From: Tg. Rambutan	QUOTE(raymond5105 @ May 23 2009, 03:23 PM) @ianho,i do have the same rig as yours but it's a S423 based. It's still working strong since year September 2001. LOL. Now that I've revived these 2 dinosaurs, I dunno what to do with them.
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dlwl	May 23 2009, 04:00 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #242
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 4,789 posts Joined: Aug 2005 From: Ipoh <---> Kuala Lumpur	can give to your children to use or can donate, or sell them off, which i think wouldn't really fetch a lot also
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ianho	May 23 2009, 04:12 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #243
Cucimangkoklife VIP 15,705 posts Joined: Mar 2005 From: Tg. Rambutan	QUOTE(dlwl @ May 23 2009, 04:00 PM) can give to your children to use or can donate, or sell them off, which i think wouldn't really fetch a lot also My kids r using a Dual core, SLI, 4gb Ram equipped PC with Apple Cinema Display in their room leh. I give them this dinosaur they will ask me go dai. This post has been edited by ianho: May 23 2009, 04:13 PM
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bai1101	May 23 2009, 04:21 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #244
I am Pervert Senior Member 1,613 posts Joined: Feb 2008 From: Sg Long/Serdang	QUOTE(ianho @ May 23 2009, 04:12 PM) My kids r using a Dual core, SLI, 4gb Ram equipped PC with Apple Cinema Display in their room leh. I give them this dinosaur they will ask me go dai. donate to the "rumah anak yatim" the kid there will be dam happy with some simple game in it
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llutephie	May 23 2009, 04:54 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #245
Getting Started Junior Member 149 posts Joined: Aug 2008	QUOTE(bai1101 @ May 23 2009, 04:21 PM) donate to the "rumah anak yatim" the kid there will be dam happy with some simple game in it I agree with that
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dlwl	May 23 2009, 05:22 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #246
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 4,789 posts Joined: Aug 2005 From: Ipoh <---> Kuala Lumpur	QUOTE(ianho @ May 23 2009, 04:12 PM) My kids r using a Dual core, SLI, 4gb Ram equipped PC with Apple Cinema Display in their room leh. I give them this dinosaur they will ask me go dai. envy your kids leh..using SLI rig with cinema display
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ianho	May 23 2009, 05:24 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #247
Cucimangkoklife VIP 15,705 posts Joined: Mar 2005 From: Tg. Rambutan	QUOTE(dlwl @ May 23 2009, 05:22 PM) envy your kids leh..using SLI rig with cinema display Just doing my part in stimulating the economy.
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bai1101	May 23 2009, 06:13 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #248
I am Pervert Senior Member 1,613 posts Joined: Feb 2008 From: Sg Long/Serdang	QUOTE(ianho @ May 23 2009, 05:24 PM) Just doing my part in stimulating the economy. can i be ur kid Added on May 23, 2009, 6:14 pm QUOTE(ianho @ May 23 2009, 05:24 PM) Just doing my part in stimulating the economy. can i be ur kid This post has been edited by bai1101: May 23 2009, 06:14 PM
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ianho	May 23 2009, 06:34 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #249
Cucimangkoklife VIP 15,705 posts Joined: Mar 2005 From: Tg. Rambutan	QUOTE(bai1101 @ May 23 2009, 06:13 PM) can i be ur kid Added on May 23, 2009, 6:14 pm can i be ur kid Ask ur dad to join the Economic Stimulation Task force.
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TSraymond5105	May 23 2009, 06:36 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #250
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	@ianho ,can use them are torrent rig or a file server? Your kids are so lucky,they hav SLI with them.Solute them very much.
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bai1101	May 23 2009, 07:36 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #251
I am Pervert Senior Member 1,613 posts Joined: Feb 2008 From: Sg Long/Serdang	QUOTE(ianho @ May 23 2009, 06:34 PM) Ask ur dad to join the Economic Stimulation Task force. I AM already a daddy lol
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ianho	May 23 2009, 09:32 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #252
Cucimangkoklife VIP 15,705 posts Joined: Mar 2005 From: Tg. Rambutan	QUOTE(bai1101 @ May 23 2009, 07:36 PM) I AM already a daddy lol Then apa susah? Join me in the Economic Stimulation Task force. Hehehe
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Jcsy	May 25 2009, 02:50 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #253
Frag First! Think Later? Senior Member 2,782 posts Joined: Feb 2006 From: BANGSARian	wah i have 2 work to get SLI but just being ur kid then can get awesome and easy hehehe our dinosaur machines really no value , give rumah anak yatim also better
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ianho	May 25 2009, 03:03 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #254
Cucimangkoklife VIP 15,705 posts Joined: Mar 2005 From: Tg. Rambutan	QUOTE(Jcsy @ May 25 2009, 02:50 PM) wah i have 2 work to get SLI but just being ur kid then can get awesome and easy hehehe our dinosaur machines really no value , give rumah anak yatim also better Heh I just got an idea. I thnk I will set it up in the kitchen for my wife. Then she can watch TV, YouTube, surf for cooking recipes n stuff.
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Jcsy	May 25 2009, 03:45 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #255
Frag First! Think Later? Senior Member 2,782 posts Joined: Feb 2006 From: BANGSARian	sounds harsh when my own main machine is used for some1 else's kitchen lol so far the best is still donate though
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kabukiawie	May 25 2009, 05:16 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #256
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 2,039 posts Joined: Jan 2003	long time didnt drop by... many shocking news here oooo......Even uncle ianho also drop by join our "museum"... Hard to believe that still manage to grab legendary P4EE!!!! @llutephie really solute you can grab this beast. now your spec can consider the top among all active p4 478 users here.
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TSraymond5105	May 25 2009, 08:58 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #257
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	@ianho ,it's a fresh idea to setup a rig in kitchen. After setup share us some snapshoots of your kitchen. @kabu,want to sell your S478 procs?
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ianho	May 25 2009, 10:12 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #258
Cucimangkoklife VIP 15,705 posts Joined: Mar 2005 From: Tg. Rambutan	QUOTE(raymond5105 @ May 25 2009, 08:58 PM) @ianho ,it's a fresh idea to setup a rig in kitchen. After setup share us some snapshoots of your kitchen. @kabu,want to sell your S478 procs? Wokeh. Will do.
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Jcsy	May 25 2009, 10:29 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #259
Frag First! Think Later? Senior Member 2,782 posts Joined: Feb 2006 From: BANGSARian	lol out of topic but i jus setup my WII so tired playing some test games going 4 dinner soon and then crash catch u guys 2molo
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llutephie	May 25 2009, 11:31 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #260
Getting Started Junior Member 149 posts Joined: Aug 2008	QUOTE(kabukiawie @ May 25 2009, 05:16 PM) long time didnt drop by... many shocking news here oooo......Even uncle ianho also drop by join our "museum"... Hard to believe that still manage to grab legendary P4EE!!!! @llutephie really solute you can grab this beast. now your spec can consider the top among all active p4 478 users here. Its hard to get this beast. I'm waiting for a long time until someone want to sell it to me. Actually have two person want to sell, first from KL he sold Rm 300 but sadly he broken the pin one day before he want to met me Now i get it from somebody at Penang
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kabukiawie	May 26 2009, 12:04 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #261
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 2,039 posts Joined: Jan 2003	@ray yea... collecting dust now... so just let it go........ @llutephie well.... is there any boost from this beast? should be able to feel the ump from it. share share a bit...
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TSraymond5105	May 26 2009, 12:50 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #262
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	Still waiting for his benchmark,just curious how much boost this beast has. Added on May 26, 2009, 12:51 pm@kabu,your 7600GS is still with you or sold out already? This post has been edited by raymond5105: May 26 2009, 12:51 PM
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ianho	May 26 2009, 12:54 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #263
Cucimangkoklife VIP 15,705 posts Joined: Mar 2005 From: Tg. Rambutan	I always think my Quad core is very hot. Until I booted up my PresHOT only I realised just how hot those old P4s got even at stock speed. My P4 2.4ghz idles at 50C+ !!!! This post has been edited by ianho: May 26 2009, 12:55 PM
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TSraymond5105	May 26 2009, 01:18 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #264
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	@ianho,your 2.4GHz is a prescott?Last 3 months ago,i tried to boot up my prescott 3.0GHz with Northwood heatsink fan,the temperature was idling at 45 degree C. When running Orthos, the temp rose to 60 degree C. I guess your quad core should be always lower than Prescott core.
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sang_karim	May 26 2009, 04:19 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #265
:: sάής ЌάЯΐм :: Senior Member 1,557 posts Joined: Dec 2005 From: Batu Pahat, Johor Status: ..: Y N W A ::.	wah ... everybody selling their P4 aaa ... hehe ..
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TSraymond5105	May 26 2009, 04:56 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #266
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	Mr. sang_karim,how are you?Long time didn't drop by here ya.
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wakakaka	May 26 2009, 09:11 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #267
Getting Started Junior Member 284 posts Joined: Dec 2006	ANYBODY SELLING THEIR p4? 478 socket, i need one ~~~2.4 ghz and above, pm me, thanks This post has been edited by wakakaka: May 26 2009, 09:12 PM
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BFGWong	May 27 2009, 11:11 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #268
時代革命 Senior Member 1,998 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Stardust	QUOTE(raymond5105 @ May 18 2009, 09:21 PM) Enlight and JW Power? Maybe MSI 945G is another alternative choice for you? Well, I'm hoping that I can stay with my already DDR1 memory and AGP graphics card, rather than having to get DDR2 and use the onboard graphics. And I dont think I can find MSI945G Socket 478 in Low Yat plaza anymore
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TSraymond5105	May 27 2009, 11:14 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #269
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	Now MSI one has sold out too?Why not try to hunt from garage sales?Maybe you can hunt a good mobo from there.
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BFGWong	May 27 2009, 11:18 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #270
時代革命 Senior Member 1,998 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Stardust	QUOTE(raymond5105 @ May 27 2009, 11:14 AM) Now MSI one has sold out too?Why not try to hunt from garage sales?Maybe you can hunt a good mobo from there. Actually I did try, but the asking price is generally quite ridiculous for a 2nd hand board without any official warranty coverage, e.g. RM140+. And even though some are quite nice boards but these are made before the industry moved to solid capacitors, so abit doubtful lah... want to have a solution that will work for 2 years leh... Last time I saw at the Thunder Match "clearance bins" theres one or two boards, regretted didn't get it then, coz they were like RM200+
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AlexLee277	May 27 2009, 11:24 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #271
Dihujani kenangan masa lalu Senior Member 4,221 posts Joined: Dec 2007 From: Somewhere on Earth	any one selling their AGP card??? i need some upgrade on my p4 gaming rig.. haha! _______________________________________ and coming soon... a 1.8GHz p4 is coming out... This post has been edited by AlexLee277: May 27 2009, 11:25 AM
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TSraymond5105	May 27 2009, 11:33 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #272
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	QUOTE(AlexLee277 @ May 27 2009, 11:24 AM) any one selling their AGP card??? i need some upgrade on my p4 gaming rig.. haha! _______________________________________ and coming soon... a 1.8GHz p4 is coming out... What AGP card you need? P4 1.8GHz is out ? From store? Added on May 27, 2009, 11:35 am@BFGWong,if that's case. Get the Enlight mobo. At least we still heard about this brand. This post has been edited by raymond5105: May 27 2009, 11:35 AM
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sang_karim	May 27 2009, 12:21 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #273
:: sάής ЌάЯΐм :: Senior Member 1,557 posts Joined: Dec 2005 From: Batu Pahat, Johor Status: ..: Y N W A ::.	QUOTE(raymond5105 @ May 26 2009, 04:56 PM) Mr. sang_karim,how are you?Long time didn't drop by here ya. ya .. long time not dropping by ... to bz with personal interest ... hope to get to my normal life after this 2 months ... hehe ... glad to see this thread still alive and kickin' ...
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dlwl	May 27 2009, 12:52 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #274
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 4,789 posts Joined: Aug 2005 From: Ipoh <---> Kuala Lumpur	@BFGWong, did you try asking the shops? Coz some shops do help to look for the models that you want, one of my relatives did that and he got the mobo that he wanted. running socket am2 with ddr1 and agp. very rare board in the market.
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kabukiawie	May 27 2009, 01:35 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #275
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 2,039 posts Joined: Jan 2003	@ray it still with me. most ppl looking for pcie. hmm..... @alex i have 7600gs ddr3 256mb which on par with 76gt. pm me if interested.
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TSraymond5105	May 27 2009, 02:19 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #276
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	kabu,can pm me the best price to let go? Maybe i can grab this for my brother.Hehe.
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Jcsy	May 27 2009, 02:19 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #277
Frag First! Think Later? Senior Member 2,782 posts Joined: Feb 2006 From: BANGSARian	QUOTE(wakakaka @ May 26 2009, 09:11 PM) ANYBODY SELLING THEIR p4? 478 socket, i need one ~~~2.4 ghz and above, pm me, thanks hello i got a northwood 2.4c 512 cache for sale PM me if you want its been lying there for quite a long time after i bought my 3.0ghz 1 year ago
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kabukiawie	May 28 2009, 12:01 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #278
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 2,039 posts Joined: Jan 2003	@wakakaka i have 2.8C northwood and 2.4 Prescott for sale. Please refer to my siggy. thanks. pm me if interested. @ray ugpm. emailed you some update pics. chack your hotmail.
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KahLooN	May 28 2009, 09:46 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #279
~(^^)~ Senior Member 704 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Cheras	Just notice that most people here are selling their parts. Then I also want to try my luck thou. @AlexLee277 I have a 9800Pro + Zalman Fatality cooler. I had been keeping it for some times. If you interested do let me know.
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BFGWong	May 28 2009, 09:59 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #280
時代革命 Senior Member 1,998 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Stardust	@dlwl I tried most of the reputable shops in LowYat plaza. Unfortunately the best they sell are those Enlight/JW Power with 6 months warranty. I don't know why they can't give 1 year warranty - a new mobo is a new mobo, and it seems that they are exploiting us who wants to keep our Socket 478 going @raymond If really no choice lor will get the Enlight, will see if I can squeeze the budget a bit for a dual core Atom mobo (that comes with CPU soldered on). Will be sad to confine another good 478 cpu to the shelves but for this I fault the mobo makers for failing to serve this segment
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fylon	May 28 2009, 10:56 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #281
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	Has been a quite sometime didnt drop by.. Woah! Everything seems like letting go old parts huh.. Remind me those old time where flashing 9800PRO to XT, hunting down BH-5 / TCCD, super insane OC and tweaking. Haha.. Miss it.. The only thing that i cant it on my hand is DDR Booster. O/T: Anyways guys, I'm looking for Digimon V-Pet 1st Generation type. (the none shakable one). If anyone has it, do PM me. Turning from OC kaki to old time toys collector. Price is highly negociatable.. P/s:Don't know / forget how it looks like? Click below. » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «
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wakakaka	May 28 2009, 11:42 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #282
Getting Started Junior Member 284 posts Joined: Dec 2006	My motherboard is P4VMM2, VIA chipset, does it support 800mhz fsb or 2.8C p4 HT?
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KahLooN	May 28 2009, 01:53 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #283
~(^^)~ Senior Member 704 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Cheras	QUOTE(wakakaka @ May 28 2009, 11:42 AM) My motherboard is P4VMM2, VIA chipset, does it support 800mhz fsb or 2.8C p4 HT? Just check for you, your board support FSB up to 400MHZ. If you plan to put in the 2.8C, I think it would not be a problem given they provide with new BIOS. Maybe some other people can correct me if I'm wrong.
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kabukiawie	May 28 2009, 03:47 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #284
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 2,039 posts Joined: Jan 2003	i dont think it can cause i checked ecs website, the max fsb for this mobo is 533. Due to chipset limitation. i googled just now found out that its like i said. check this out. maybe i am wrong on this.(please correct me if i am wrong ) http://www.cpu-upgrade.com/mb-ECS/P4VMM2(V7.1).html
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TSraymond5105	May 28 2009, 04:28 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #285
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	KahLoon,long time didn't see you here. Still stick with old school ya.
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OC4/3	May 28 2009, 06:09 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #286
. Elite 4,746 posts Joined: Dec 2007 From: Speed rule	QUOTE(BFGWong @ May 28 2009, 09:59 AM) @dlwl I tried most of the reputable shops in LowYat plaza. Unfortunately the best they sell are those Enlight/JW Power with 6 months warranty. I don't know why they can't give 1 year warranty - a new mobo is a new mobo, and it seems that they are exploiting us who wants to keep our Socket 478 going @raymond If really no choice lor will get the Enlight, will see if I can squeeze the budget a bit for a dual core Atom mobo (that comes with CPU soldered on). Will be sad to confine another good 478 cpu to the shelves but for this I fault the mobo makers for failing to serve this segment Errr brother,technology move very fast So don't expect maker to constantly support older socket
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sang_karim	May 29 2009, 08:31 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #287
:: sάής ЌάЯΐм :: Senior Member 1,557 posts Joined: Dec 2005 From: Batu Pahat, Johor Status: ..: Y N W A ::.	wah .. after looking at fylon siggy ... i've noticed about how fast tech moves ... i haven't experience any socket 775 thingy yet ...
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kabukiawie	May 29 2009, 08:54 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #288
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 2,039 posts Joined: Jan 2003	@sang fylon is the 1 that fast moving..... not only the tech. lolz... i think when he start touching s478 till now already change a few rigs. hoho.....
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TSraymond5105	May 29 2009, 09:01 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #289
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	QUOTE(sang_karim @ May 29 2009, 08:31 AM) wah .. after looking at fylon siggy ... i've noticed about how fast tech moves ... i haven't experience any socket 775 thingy yet ... sang,planning to move to LGA775? QUOTE(kabukiawie @ May 29 2009, 08:54 AM) @sang fylon is the 1 that fast moving..... not only the tech. lolz... i think when he start touching s478 till now already change a few rigs. hoho..... I think he has changed a few GCs and Procs since he moved to the dark side.
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fylon	May 29 2009, 09:18 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #290
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	@sang_karim, Ray & Kabu Hahaha.. Not really la bro.. I think im more extreme in S478, did changed quite a few parts, mobo, ram, GC and etcs. Still S478 the best to be play around. Nowadays, just keep my quad in the mint condition.. Can say OC just for benchies, after that all back to stock..
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sang_karim	May 29 2009, 11:18 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #291
:: sάής ЌάЯΐм :: Senior Member 1,557 posts Joined: Dec 2005 From: Batu Pahat, Johor Status: ..: Y N W A ::.	QUOTE(raymond5105 @ May 29 2009, 09:01 AM) sang,planning to move to LGA775? I think he has changed a few GCs and Procs since he moved to the dark side. no la .. i mean if i'm planning to change platform ( if my socket 478 died which is i'm not hoping la .. hehe ) maybe i don even have chance to taste the socket 775 thingy coz the that i7 / i5 is using new socket rite? or i'm wrong ... too way behind about this tech things ... hehe
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edministrator	May 29 2009, 12:34 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #292
Regular Senior Member 1,940 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Soviet Sarawak	i agree, fylon is the kayaman here... i very noob one coz not kayaman level, lol
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kabukiawie	May 29 2009, 07:15 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #293
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 2,039 posts Joined: Jan 2003	nice 1... fylon AKA "kayaman" i think if fylon still not moving to darkside, he should be running with P4EE already.
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edministrator	May 29 2009, 07:43 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #294
Regular Senior Member 1,940 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Soviet Sarawak	QUOTE(kabukiawie @ May 29 2009, 07:15 PM) nice 1... fylon AKA "kayaman" i think if fylon still not moving to darkside, he should be running with P4EE already. wrong. if he's not moving to 775, he'll most likely be in the i7 league right now itulah 'kayaman' style~~~ This post has been edited by edministrator: May 29 2009, 07:43 PM
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TSraymond5105	May 29 2009, 09:26 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #295
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	QUOTE(edministrator @ May 29 2009, 07:43 PM) wrong. if he's not moving to 775, he'll most likely be in the i7 league right now itulah 'kayaman' style~~~ What is the secret behind of a kayaman? Eat kaya daily ? Yup,maybe he might with i7 if he changes his rig now.
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SurpriseZZZZZ	May 29 2009, 10:36 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #296
Casual Junior Member 425 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Seremban	P4 478 user reporting in!
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llutephie	May 29 2009, 11:08 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #297
Getting Started Junior Member 149 posts Joined: Aug 2008	Welcome to the club
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SurpriseZZZZZ	May 29 2009, 11:11 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #298
Casual Junior Member 425 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Seremban	Wow you are using gallatin core P4 I wished i can get it. Still using 2.8GHZ which i oced to 3.4ghz. Is P4 still enough for normal daily activities?
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dlwl	May 29 2009, 11:50 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #299
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 4,789 posts Joined: Aug 2005 From: Ipoh <---> Kuala Lumpur	p4 still sufficient for normal office use, like internet surfing, word and excel etc. some occasional videos too. but definately need some optimization to ensure it runs smoothly..
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kabukiawie	May 30 2009, 01:11 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #300
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 2,039 posts Joined: Jan 2003	QUOTE(raymond5105 @ May 29 2009, 09:26 PM) What is the secret behind of a kayaman? Eat kaya daily ? Yup,maybe he might with i7 if he changes his rig now. just need a printer can print agong head. i dont think he will more to i7 that soon... cause right now can see that his gc, soundcard, speaker and huge wide screen still not in the siggy. Ed mentioned to me before, his must-have list can easily top up 3k easily on his current rig. dont play play!! QUOTE(SurpriseZZZZZ @ May 29 2009, 10:36 PM) P4 478 user reporting in! welcome. Glad that still have some "new" s478 member reporting in.
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fylon	May 30 2009, 08:03 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #301
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	Aikz.. No wander i feel my back is hot and my ears got itch! Hahah.. Itu edmin poking my back. Anyways, OT liao la.. Hahah.. I7 still my cup of tea as pricing is the main concern. My current rigs still pending for HD LCD, sound card & speaker. Currently im running on sound-less setup. Speaker spoiled weeks ago.. LCD & sound card is delay due supplier shipment delay. Speaker still lacking of agong head.
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kabukiawie	May 30 2009, 12:02 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #302
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 2,039 posts Joined: Jan 2003	OT:no la... is the day we chitchat mentioned about what is your next upgrade, he share a bit of your thought lo... nice list btw. cause now you seems move from performance to entertainment. nowadays i never care about performance(c2d oced a bit served me well). entertainment+silent are my aims. @llutephie did you oc your P4EE?? you have the same mobo as mine last time. i wonder how far can it can push with your nice gem. ray also one of this mobo user too.
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TSraymond5105	May 30 2009, 12:32 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #303
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	@kabu,i think the mobo still can go ahead until 3.6GHz with a mild o/c as i tried my 2.8C and it can reach about 3.4GHz like that with 240fsb pump in. If want to go higher i think need to pump more voltage to feed the proc.
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fylon	May 30 2009, 03:02 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #304
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	@Kabu Yea.. I don't need much performance now as most of the time spend on PC are just for surfing, music and movies. So, turning the rigs into an entertainment rigs would be better.
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llutephie	May 30 2009, 03:10 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #305
Getting Started Junior Member 149 posts Joined: Aug 2008	QUOTE(kabukiawie @ May 30 2009, 12:02 PM) OT:no la... is the day we chitchat mentioned about what is your next upgrade, he share a bit of your thought lo... nice list btw. cause now you seems move from performance to entertainment. nowadays i never care about performance(c2d oced a bit served me well). entertainment+silent are my aims. @llutephie did you oc your P4EE?? you have the same mobo as mine last time. i wonder how far can it can push with your nice gem. ray also one of this mobo user too. Not yet until i buy cooler for my cpu Right now i'm using standard cooler which can up 70c when i play game
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TSraymond5105	May 30 2009, 04:32 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #306
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	QUOTE(llutephie @ May 30 2009, 03:10 PM) Not yet until i buy cooler for my cpu Right now i'm using standard cooler which can up 70c when i play game So hot??
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kabukiawie	May 30 2009, 05:22 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #307
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 2,039 posts Joined: Jan 2003	haiz....if i still cant find the bracket for my xp120, i think i will let it go... no point letting it sitting there collect dust. @ray hmm... i think it can go further. like you said, 240fsb means plus 40fsb. his EE is 3.4, multi 17. 17240 is 4ghz+ already!!!!! @llutephie yalo...so hot? hmm..... prescott is a bit hard to tame....extra cooling is needed. This post has been edited by kabukiawie*: May 30 2009, 05:24 PM
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bai1101	May 30 2009, 05:46 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #308
I am Pervert Senior Member 1,613 posts Joined: Feb 2008 From: Sg Long/Serdang	can't agree more... tat why i buy such big cooler for my P4 3.0E
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llutephie	May 30 2009, 07:18 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #309
Getting Started Junior Member 149 posts Joined: Aug 2008	QUOTE(raymond5105 @ May 30 2009, 04:32 PM) So hot?? Yup..sometimes can go 72c. Now i'm looking for cpu cooler.
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duncan880409	May 30 2009, 07:21 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #310
Like Working in My Lab ^^ Senior Member 3,700 posts Joined: May 2007 From: KT/UTM Skudai	fellow fren, i dint use my rig (with biostar mb p4m900m4 see below sig), for 1 week, now i use it back, sometime, my pc transfer speed is damn godly slow, i bootup only, the whole system hang, i can see my LAN tray icon is hang at there, i mean system tray not responding, when open google chrome + wlm, it take almost a min , wtf ? what happen here?
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TSraymond5105	May 30 2009, 07:24 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #311
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	QUOTE(kabukiawie @ May 30 2009, 05:22 PM) haiz....if i still cant find the bracket for my xp120, i think i will let it go... no point letting it sitting there collect dust. @ray hmm... i think it can go further. like you said, 240fsb means plus 40fsb. his EE is 3.4, multi 17. 17*240 is 4ghz+ already!!!!! @llutephie yalo...so hot? hmm..... prescott is a bit hard to tame....extra cooling is needed. @kabu,which bracket for your XP120? LGA775 ? How come you bought it without the bracket? QUOTE(bai1101 @ May 30 2009, 05:46 PM) can't agree more... tat why i buy such big cooler for my P4 3.0E what cooler are you with? QUOTE(llutephie @ May 30 2009, 07:18 PM) Yup..sometimes can go 72c. Now i'm looking for cpu cooler. That's hot man,but do you feel the performance on P4 EE proc?Tell us about that. QUOTE(duncan880409 @ May 30 2009, 07:21 PM) fellow fren, i dint use my rig (with biostar mb p4m900m4 see below sig), for 1 week, now i use it back, sometime, my pc transfer speed is damn godly slow, i bootup only, the whole system hang, i can see my LAN tray icon is hang at there, i mean system tray not responding, when open google chrome + wlm, it take almost a min , wtf ? what happen here? Slow response,there is a possibility of the HDD is KO soon.I faced that last time.
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bai1101	May 30 2009, 08:06 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #312
I am Pervert Senior Member 1,613 posts Joined: Feb 2008 From: Sg Long/Serdang	I use deep cool ice tower
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TSraymond5105	May 30 2009, 08:14 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #313
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	Nice and big cooler.But what i search from online it can support the LGA775 only. You use this cooler since long time ago?
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bai1101	May 30 2009, 08:25 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #314
I am Pervert Senior Member 1,613 posts Joined: Feb 2008 From: Sg Long/Serdang	last year lo.... ya it state 775 only, I not sure abt new bath The 1st bath come with universal braket can mount 478 (buy at fren comp shop, open box and try to mount on a junk 478 mb testing wakakaka) This post has been edited by bai1101: May 30 2009, 08:28 PM
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TSraymond5105	May 30 2009, 08:33 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #315
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	How much you bought it? The new one would cost around RM160 like that. Between the performacne of cooling must be quite good right?
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duncan880409	May 30 2009, 08:46 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #316
Like Working in My Lab ^^ Senior Member 3,700 posts Joined: May 2007 From: KT/UTM Skudai	QUOTE(raymond5105 @ May 30 2009, 07:24 PM) @kabu,which bracket for your XP120? LGA775 ? How come you bought it without the bracket? what cooler are you with? That's hot man,but do you feel the performance on P4 EE proc?Tell us about that. Slow response,there is a possibility of the HDD is KO soon.I faced that last time. dont think so, HDD is new, and scandisk doesnt show error
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ianho	May 30 2009, 08:48 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #317
Cucimangkoklife VIP 15,705 posts Joined: Mar 2005 From: Tg. Rambutan	QUOTE(kabukiawie @ May 30 2009, 05:22 PM) haiz....if i still cant find the bracket for my xp120, i think i will let it go... no point letting it sitting there collect dust. @ray hmm... i think it can go further. like you said, 240fsb means plus 40fsb. his EE is 3.4, multi 17. 17*240 is 4ghz+ already!!!!! @llutephie yalo...so hot? hmm..... prescott is a bit hard to tame....extra cooling is needed. Sri Comp at LYP got leh. At the front there where they sell the HSF n fans. At the bottom of the shelfs there. I also saw 1 at All IT LYP. Also at the HSF and fans there. Bottom shelf. Faster go get it.
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bai1101	May 30 2009, 08:58 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #318
I am Pervert Senior Member 1,613 posts Joined: Feb 2008 From: Sg Long/Serdang	QUOTE(raymond5105 @ May 30 2009, 08:33 PM) How much you bought it? The new one would cost around RM160 like that. Between the performacne of cooling must be quite good right? can't remember the price but i get at very low price compare to market..... (near to cost already my fren only untung me 3-5%) Perfomance not bad at least can tame my beast 47 on idle and load no over 56-60
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duncan880409	May 30 2009, 09:30 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #319
Like Working in My Lab ^^ Senior Member 3,700 posts Joined: May 2007 From: KT/UTM Skudai	sorry to bother agian, since this is S478 thread, so any user with these kind of processor use P4M900-M4 with SATA HDD?? any problem so far for you guys, and, the southbridge, when u guys on the computer, is hot or not, thanks.. i need to knmow cause i have problem with mine, damn upset with this board
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bai1101	May 30 2009, 09:35 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #320
I am Pervert Senior Member 1,613 posts Joined: Feb 2008 From: Sg Long/Serdang	no idea.... may be u need update latest bios
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llutephie	May 30 2009, 09:38 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #321
Getting Started Junior Member 149 posts Joined: Aug 2008	QUOTE(raymond5105 @ May 30 2009, 07:24 PM) That's hot man,but do you feel the performance on P4 EE proc?Tell us about that. Yup very hot Overall the performance is good even faster when loading games and applications such as adobe photoshop. But i need some extra cooling for my P4EE. Which one is better? Zalman, Gegabyte or Coolermaster?
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bai1101	May 30 2009, 09:44 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #322
I am Pervert Senior Member 1,613 posts Joined: Feb 2008 From: Sg Long/Serdang	the new Coolermaster NF620 look cool not sure abt the performance
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TSraymond5105	May 30 2009, 10:15 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #323
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	QUOTE(duncan880409 @ May 30 2009, 09:30 PM) sorry to bother agian, since this is S478 thread, so any user with these kind of processor use P4M900-M4 with SATA HDD?? any problem so far for you guys, and, the southbridge, when u guys on the computer, is hot or not, thanks.. i need to knmow cause i have problem with mine, damn upset with this board Your southbridge is hot? QUOTE(llutephie @ May 30 2009, 09:38 PM) Yup very hot Overall the performance is good even faster when loading games and applications such as adobe photoshop. But i need some extra cooling for my P4EE. Which one is better? Zalman, Gegabyte or Coolermaster? Get a Zalman one,but it's expensive. Gigabyte has 1 rocket tower is also not bad.
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kabukiawie	May 30 2009, 11:53 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #324
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 2,039 posts Joined: Jan 2003	zalman really a boom..... can consider others, i think you can get some good cooler from garage there as they move to newer highend hfs. tuniq is nice as well. QUOTE(raymond5105 @ May 30 2009, 07:24 PM) @kabu,which bracket for your XP120? LGA775 ? How come you bought it without the bracket? xp120 was designed for 478, it does come with k8 bracket. as for s775, have to buy seperately. i have this cooler for 2 years already(i think so). Thermalright is like that, never provide full bracket set for other socket. haiz...... QUOTE(ianho @ May 30 2009, 08:48 PM) Sri Comp at LYP got leh. At the front there where they sell the HSF n fans. At the bottom of the shelfs there. I also saw 1 at All IT LYP. Also at the HSF and fans there. Bottom shelf. Faster go get it. is it? but i am across the sea........ sarawak. fly to lyp is a bit hard for me. thanks for the info. maybe can ask someone help buy when traveling to KL next time. This post has been edited by kabukiawie: May 30 2009, 11:58 PM
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duncan880409	May 31 2009, 12:21 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #325
Like Working in My Lab ^^ Senior Member 3,700 posts Joined: May 2007 From: KT/UTM Skudai	QUOTE(raymond5105 @ May 30 2009, 10:15 PM) Your southbridge is hot? Get a Zalman one,but it's expensive. Gigabyte has 1 rocket tower is also not bad. ya, the southbridge VT8237A is damn hot when i touch it
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TSraymond5105	May 31 2009, 12:03 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #326
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	QUOTE(duncan880409 @ May 31 2009, 12:21 AM) ya, the southbridge VT8237A is damn hot when i touch it The south bridge hot causing slow transfer rate to the HDD i think. Get a small fan to cool down the south bridge and see if helps of not.
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duncan880409	May 31 2009, 02:44 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #327
Like Working in My Lab ^^ Senior Member 3,700 posts Joined: May 2007 From: KT/UTM Skudai	QUOTE(raymond5105 @ May 31 2009, 12:03 PM) The south bridge hot causing slow transfer rate to the HDD i think. Get a small fan to cool down the south bridge and see if helps of not. will try later, now at kl. ty
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edministrator	May 31 2009, 04:16 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #328
Regular Senior Member 1,940 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Soviet Sarawak	I used Zalman Fatality FS-C77 for my 3ghz P4HT previously. Then transferred to Q6600 oc'ed to 3Ghz. U can imagine the efficiency of the cooler which can cool even a 65nm quad, lol. Bad news is, I sold it off already.
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llutephie	May 31 2009, 05:53 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #329
Getting Started Junior Member 149 posts Joined: Aug 2008	Aiseh.. too little too late
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TSraymond5105	May 31 2009, 09:02 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #330
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	QUOTE(edministrator @ May 31 2009, 04:16 PM) I used Zalman Fatality FS-C77 for my 3ghz P4HT previously. Then transferred to Q6600 oc'ed to 3Ghz. U can imagine the efficiency of the cooler which can cool even a 65nm quad, lol. Bad news is, I sold it off already. sold off and upgrade to a better one?
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edministrator	May 31 2009, 10:28 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #331
Regular Senior Member 1,940 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Soviet Sarawak	yah bro. TRUE120, please don't flame me, lol.
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kabukiawie	Jun 1 2009, 12:40 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #332
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 2,039 posts Joined: Jan 2003	dont play play... ed is letting go all his old small toys and now packed his new rig with real gear.
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TSraymond5105	Jun 1 2009, 08:54 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #333
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	edmin,do you ever consider with water cooling?The cooler is really too huge for me.
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fylon	Jun 1 2009, 09:18 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #334
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	All and all.. We actually can see that Edmin then is the "kayaman" in this thread.. See his rigs, even the cooler also going for TRUE120. What do u guys think, Ray? Haha.. I'm upgrade from a 2nd hand big typhoon to a RS which only cost me RM130 only. But edmin 1 biji TRUE can buy 2 RS liao! Even processor also didnt use the commercial type, but instead of Xeon. GC then dont need to say already, GTX range, but im still using the outdated GTS. See... He baru then the kayaman.. This post has been edited by fylon: Jun 1 2009, 09:18 AM
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edministrator	Jun 1 2009, 09:40 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #335
Regular Senior Member 1,940 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Soviet Sarawak	oiittt...i buy 2nd hand stuff la...all 2nd hand except GTX, lulz... u fly to KL for RS, i only use postage. U still pwned me in the kayaman league. RAM also buy u hi end ballistix, don't make jokes la friend, haha @ray, no watercooling for me. too much hassle for maintenance. I'm more like a no risk and lazy guy, haha... the TRUE120 is really big and heavy, but i guess that's the cons traded for the performance. got the cooler cheap from garage sales. my hard disks are almost filled, cannot tahan anymore and got myself a WD Green 1TB for storage. Now my other HDDs can breath easy already.
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TSraymond5105	Jun 1 2009, 09:42 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #336
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	Loled, GTX and GTS....True 120 and RS.... Xeon and C2Q... Hardcore rig for us already.
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fylon	Jun 1 2009, 10:01 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #337
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	Hahah... Some more, he had lay his hand on 1TB HDD, i rmb he told me that gotta wait til the price for 1TB drop around 2xx then bought. Now.. Cannot tahan liao.. Gawai shopping spree! My RS is gotten while i went for company trip.. At least i dont pay for the air ticket. Haha! So, not a matter in kayaman league. @Ray Dun nid compare liao, edmin's right the most powahful, even mine also got pwnaged. Haha.. Recently run my system 24/7 just for converting DVD movies to mpeg. Phew..
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TSraymond5105	Jun 1 2009, 10:04 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #338
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	@fylon ,you have so much of videos going to convert? omg...hardcore man...
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edministrator	Jun 1 2009, 10:10 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #339
Regular Senior Member 1,940 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Soviet Sarawak	@fylon, i did get it within my expected price range. @llutephie, here's a cooler great for u. act fast! http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1048309
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fylon	Jun 1 2009, 10:28 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #340
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	@Ray Yea.. Borrowed from a fren of mine, Ghost Whisperer Season 1 - 3. What a nice one.. Converting from DVD to mpeg. And some other nice movies, convert is due to need to return the DVD's back to fren in time. @Edmin Hahaha! Finally admit liao la? Lulz.. Anyways, ur in the kayaman list also la. Dont pretend. Me even 90CFM fan loot the 2nd hand one. Haix..
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Jcsy	Jun 1 2009, 10:37 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #341
Frag First! Think Later? Senior Member 2,782 posts Joined: Feb 2006 From: BANGSARian	haha edmin kayaman ! most kaya in the thread with his 2nd hand rig also tarpau us our rig dunno how many hand liao all the parts all no warranty wat so ever
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TSraymond5105	Jun 1 2009, 11:43 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #342
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	QUOTE(Jcsy @ Jun 1 2009, 10:37 AM) haha edmin kayaman ! most kaya in the thread with his 2nd hand rig also tarpau us our rig dunno how many hand liao all the parts all no warranty wat so ever Agree,i bought a lot of 2nd or 3rd hand stuffs on my rig too.
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edministrator	Jun 1 2009, 12:17 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #343
Regular Senior Member 1,940 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Soviet Sarawak	kayaman buy 1st hand. i buy 2nd hand 3rd hand 4th hand etc... the thing is, fylon pretend 2 be innocent coz when he got lubang, he never wanna share with us one lehh, he loot it quietly... i no chance oledi..lol. ok, don't OT liao... I managed 2 find a 2nd hand P4 for my colleague. he's looking for a PC that can watch some movies and do some office work. Specs is P4 2.4Ghz with 512MB RAM, ATI 9250 and 40GB HDD. Ran Ironman 720p (CoreAVC) smoothly. Bought an internal card reader for the PC but somehow the connection doesn't fit and the wires color scheme were off also. Finding a solution now. This post has been edited by edministrator: Jun 1 2009, 12:23 PM
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ianho	Jun 1 2009, 12:33 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #344
Cucimangkoklife VIP 15,705 posts Joined: Mar 2005 From: Tg. Rambutan	QUOTE(edministrator @ Jun 1 2009, 12:17 PM) kayaman buy 1st hand. i buy 2nd hand 3rd hand 4th hand etc... the thing is, fylon pretend 2 be innocent coz when he got lubang, he never wanna share with us one lehh, he loot it quietly... i no chance oledi..lol. ok, don't OT liao... I managed 2 find a 2nd hand P4 for my colleague. he's looking for a PC that can watch some movies and do some office work. Specs is P4 2.4Ghz with 512MB RAM, ATI 9250 and 40GB HDD. Ran Ironman 720p (CoreAVC) smoothly. Bought an internal card reader for the PC but somehow the connection doesn't fit and the wires color scheme were off also. Finding a solution now. Wah! That's exactly the same spec as my OldMan rig. Only diff is my HDD 80Gb.
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TSraymond5105	Jun 1 2009, 12:59 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #345
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	2.4GHz with ATI9250 can play 720p smoothly?
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edministrator	Jun 1 2009, 01:36 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #346
Regular Senior Member 1,940 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Soviet Sarawak	QUOTE(raymond5105 @ Jun 1 2009, 12:59 PM) 2.4GHz with ATI9250 can play 720p smoothly? mark my words. yes, you can! coreAVC, skip deblocking. the CPU usage average 80%, lol.
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dlwl	Jun 1 2009, 07:01 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #347
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 4,789 posts Joined: Aug 2005 From: Ipoh <---> Kuala Lumpur	coreAVC does wonders man! i installed on my friend's 3.0GHz, now can play HD videos smoothly. he's using 9250 too. but 1080p ones still cant. almost like a slideshow
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TSraymond5105	Jun 1 2009, 09:34 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #348
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	Maybe my core AVC mix together with klite codec...The core AVC doesn't work well.
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edministrator	Jun 1 2009, 11:06 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #349
Regular Senior Member 1,940 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Soviet Sarawak	QUOTE(raymond5105 @ Jun 1 2009, 09:34 PM) Maybe my core AVC mix together with klite codec...The core AVC doesn't work well. not at all. the combo is not the issue. most likely your klite's mpc is not configured using the coreavc.
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TSraymond5105	Jun 1 2009, 11:15 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #350
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	QUOTE(edministrator @ Jun 1 2009, 11:06 PM) not at all. the combo is not the issue. most likely your klite's mpc is not configured using the coreavc. I think the setting is under tweak tool in klite codec there...i see a lot of settings over there. Is core avc using Haali Media Splitter?
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pengster	Jun 1 2009, 11:25 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #351
eVoWei™ Senior Member 7,757 posts Joined: May 2005 From: Subang	Yo guys! V8 already huh? Nice It's been quite some time since I've been here. raymond, can you remove me from the list? I've upgraded Thanks!
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edministrator	Jun 1 2009, 11:37 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #352
Regular Senior Member 1,940 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Soviet Sarawak	QUOTE(raymond5105 @ Jun 1 2009, 11:15 PM) I think the setting is under tweak tool in klite codec there...i see a lot of settings over there. Is core avc using Haali Media Splitter? not under tweak tool! 1. open media player classic. 2. go to view->options. 3. click on external filters. 4. select add filters. 5. navigate to corecodec folder and select the CoreAVCDecoder.ax file. 6. check the "prefer" radio button. 7. close media player classic and try running any H.264 file and gauge yourself of the improvements. Added on June 1, 2009, 11:38 pm QUOTE(pengster @ Jun 1 2009, 11:25 PM) Yo guys! V8 already huh? Nice It's been quite some time since I've been here. raymond, can you remove me from the list? I've upgraded Thanks! welcome back! what have u upgraded? Kayaman detected~ This post has been edited by edministrator: Jun 1 2009, 11:38 PM
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pengster	Jun 2 2009, 12:04 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #353
eVoWei™ Senior Member 7,757 posts Joined: May 2005 From: Subang	QUOTE(edministrator @ Jun 1 2009, 11:37 PM) not under tweak tool! 1. open media player classic. 2. go to view->options. 3. click on external filters. 4. select add filters. 5. navigate to corecodec folder and select the CoreAVCDecoder.ax file. 6. check the "prefer" radio button. 7. close media player classic and try running any H.264 file and gauge yourself of the improvements. Added on June 1, 2009, 11:38 pm welcome back! what have u upgraded? Kayaman detected~ Kayaman? I eat kaya la. Couldnt tahan my old rig, graphic card overheating causing artifacts and recently had to edit some HD footage for assignment. So decided to upgrade. A much needed upgrade anyway. I got these..
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dlwl	Jun 2 2009, 12:34 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #354
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 4,789 posts Joined: Aug 2005 From: Ipoh <---> Kuala Lumpur	nice. big upgrade indeed. Time for me to sell or eat some kaya buns too
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TSraymond5105	Jun 2 2009, 08:56 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #355
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	QUOTE(edministrator @ Jun 1 2009, 11:37 PM) not under tweak tool! 1. open media player classic. 2. go to view->options. 3. click on external filters. 4. select add filters. 5. navigate to corecodec folder and select the CoreAVCDecoder.ax file. 6. check the "prefer" radio button. 7. close media player classic and try running any H.264 file and gauge yourself of the improvements. Added on June 1, 2009, 11:38 pm welcome back! what have u upgraded? Kayaman detected~ Thanks edmin for guiding. Tonight will go back to adjust the settings. QUOTE(pengster @ Jun 2 2009, 12:04 AM) Kayaman? I eat kaya la. Couldnt tahan my old rig, graphic card overheating causing artifacts and recently had to edit some HD footage for assignment. So decided to upgrade. A much needed upgrade anyway. I got these.. Wah,another kayaman detected. Q9550 +GTS250 + Corsair XMS+ P45 mobo.CAn sit side by side with edmin already. Haha.
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fylon	Jun 2 2009, 09:07 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #356
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	Haha... I think im out from the kayaman league man.. Pengster take place.. All are 1st hand item le.. And Retail version some more.. Haix.. Mine all were 2nd hand.
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TSraymond5105	Jun 2 2009, 09:13 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #357
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	I think his spec is slightly slower than edmin's one right?
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edministrator	Jun 2 2009, 10:00 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #358
Regular Senior Member 1,940 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Soviet Sarawak	pengster's one better lah. Q9550. hi end ram. P45 mobo. pwned all with 1st hand purchase, lol.
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fylon	Jun 2 2009, 10:12 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #359
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	O/T: Should say, pengster pawned all in term of performance, just GC slightly 1level lower then edmin. And overall, i got tapau by them also.
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TSraymond5105	Jun 2 2009, 10:41 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #360
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	Haha,then real kayaman is detected finally. Q9550 is consider quite high end quaddie already.
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ianho	Jun 2 2009, 11:25 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #361
Cucimangkoklife VIP 15,705 posts Joined: Mar 2005 From: Tg. Rambutan	No1 here using Abit IS7-E? I regret selling mine off last time. What a gem. Took my 2.4ghz chip to 3.2ghz daily use OC. Should have kept that mobo.
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TSraymond5105	Jun 2 2009, 01:09 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #362
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	QUOTE(ianho @ Jun 2 2009, 11:25 AM) No1 here using Abit IS7-E? I regret selling mine off last time. What a gem. Took my 2.4ghz chip to 3.2ghz daily use OC. Should have kept that mobo. This mobo was a gem,damn good in o/cing.You sold off already,really wasted.
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kabukiawie	Jun 2 2009, 02:24 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #363
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 2,039 posts Joined: Jan 2003	QUOTE(pengster @ Jun 2 2009, 12:04 AM) Kayaman? I eat kaya la. Couldnt tahan my old rig, graphic card overheating causing artifacts and recently had to edit some HD footage for assignment. So decided to upgrade. A much needed upgrade anyway. I got these.. REAL KAYAMAN SPOTTED!!!!! haha RETAIL KAYAMAN! those are really nice upgrade, all stuffs on the table already over 2k. i want that q9550!!! jk jk fylon is 2ND HAND KAYAMAN.....and i am retail POORMAN.
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penanglou	Jun 2 2009, 02:50 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #364
New Member Junior Member 15 posts Joined: Feb 2009	QUOTE(pengster @ Jun 2 2009, 12:04 AM) Kayaman? I eat kaya la. Couldnt tahan my old rig, graphic card overheating causing artifacts and recently had to edit some HD footage for assignment. So decided to upgrade. A much needed upgrade anyway. I got these.. If this not call Kaya, then I'm already under the kaki lima list....
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TSraymond5105	Jun 2 2009, 03:19 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #365
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	kabu,you are retail poorman then i am a 2nd hand poor man already. I bought all my stuffs from 2nd hand.
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shinjite	Jun 2 2009, 04:46 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #366
�ŞħĬΩĵΐŦ�� All Stars 19,321 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Klang	QUOTE(ianho @ Jun 2 2009, 11:25 AM) No1 here using Abit IS7-E? I regret selling mine off last time. What a gem. Took my 2.4ghz chip to 3.2ghz daily use OC. Should have kept that mobo. IS7-E user here Took my 2.4B max to 3.6Ghz bootable 24/7 stable at 3.42Ghz albiet needs high voltage Currently using 3Ghz P4 HT, daily stable OC is 3.42Ghz also This post has been edited by shinjite: Jun 2 2009, 04:46 PM
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TSraymond5105	Jun 2 2009, 05:20 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #367
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	QUOTE(shinjite @ Jun 2 2009, 04:46 PM) IS7-E user here Took my 2.4B max to 3.6Ghz bootable 24/7 stable at 3.42Ghz albiet needs high voltage Currently using 3Ghz P4 HT, daily stable OC is 3.42Ghz also Nice o/c for the 2.4B to 3.6GHz. The divider on it was 5:4 right?
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pengster	Jun 2 2009, 07:41 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #368
eVoWei™ Senior Member 7,757 posts Joined: May 2005 From: Subang	QUOTE(raymond5105 @ Jun 2 2009, 08:56 AM) Thanks edmin for guiding. Tonight will go back to adjust the settings. Wah,another kayaman detected. Q9550 +GTS250 + Corsair XMS+ P45 mobo.CAn sit side by side with edmin already. Haha. What laaa. This rig will probably last me until I come back from the US. Which is like another 4 years or so. QUOTE(fylon @ Jun 2 2009, 09:07 AM) Haha... I think im out from the kayaman league man.. Pengster take place.. All are 1st hand item le.. And Retail version some more.. Haix.. Mine all were 2nd hand. Hey bro! Hows the Xigmatek btw? My Q9550's temps are quite high. Around 50c idle QUOTE(edministrator @ Jun 2 2009, 10:00 AM) pengster's one better lah. Q9550. hi end ram. P45 mobo. pwned all with 1st hand purchase, lol. Lol ram rm200+ only la. Not those crucial ballistix etc which costs rm400. QUOTE(kabukiawie @ Jun 2 2009, 02:24 PM) REAL KAYAMAN SPOTTED!!!!! haha RETAIL KAYAMAN! those are really nice upgrade, all stuffs on the table already over 2k. i want that q9550!!! jk jk fylon is 2ND HAND KAYAMAN.....and i am retail POORMAN. Hey bro long time no see xD
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TSraymond5105	Jun 2 2009, 08:34 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #369
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	QUOTE(edministrator @ Jun 1 2009, 11:37 PM) not under tweak tool! 1. open media player classic. 2. go to view->options. 3. click on external filters. 4. select add filters. 5. navigate to corecodec folder and select the CoreAVCDecoder.ax file. 6. check the "prefer" radio button. 7. close media player classic and try running any H.264 file and gauge yourself of the improvements. Added on June 1, 2009, 11:38 pm welcome back! what have u upgraded? Kayaman detected~ @edmin,thanks for guiding.Now my cpu resources is always < 30% . Added on June 2, 2009, 8:39 pm@pengster,going to US for further study? Really kaya ya.... This post has been edited by raymond5105: Jun 2 2009, 08:39 PM
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edministrator	Jun 2 2009, 08:54 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #370
Regular Senior Member 1,940 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Soviet Sarawak	QUOTE(raymond5105 @ Jun 2 2009, 08:34 PM) @edmin,thanks for guiding.Now my cpu resources is always < 30% . Added on June 2, 2009, 8:39 pm@pengster,going to US for further study? Really kaya ya.... bro, u can run 1080 files smoothly too with cpu 3ghz and above. Just double click on the coreave filter until the codec options comes out and select skip deblocking.
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TSraymond5105	Jun 2 2009, 08:58 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #371
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	@edmin,currently i do not have any movie which is 1080p format.If have sure i will try and see.Maybe i will get a copy from my friends.
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pengster	Jun 2 2009, 09:01 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #372
eVoWei™ Senior Member 7,757 posts Joined: May 2005 From: Subang	QUOTE(raymond5105 @ Jun 2 2009, 08:34 PM) @edmin,thanks for guiding.Now my cpu resources is always < 30% . Added on June 2, 2009, 8:39 pm@pengster,going to US for further study? Really kaya ya.... Most probably la. Doing ADP now
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kabukiawie	Jun 3 2009, 12:13 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #373
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 2,039 posts Joined: Jan 2003	i am back with my puny P42.4A + p4p800x + 1gbram + radeon9550. just setup today. very satisfied with the performance as it can play 720p movies smoothly. very huge improvement compare to my previous AthlonXP. will try 1080p soon, see how it goes @pengster hi, long time no see. and when see you already comeout with tons of guddies. makes me itchy only... haha @ray dont say like that, you buy mostly 2nd hand good stuffs. and most of it can't get it in the market liao. mine cpu is oem, mobo get the cheapest 1+ builtin vga, value ram. thats all.... even hdd still using 2nd hand PATA 80gb hdd. only ram and mobo is from shop, still the cheapest from the shelf. this rig will put me in hibernate for sometime before have $$ for new gear. This post has been edited by kabukiawie: Jun 3 2009, 12:19 AM
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TSraymond5105	Jun 3 2009, 09:15 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #374
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	QUOTE(pengster @ Jun 2 2009, 09:01 PM) Most probably la. Doing ADP now What's ADP? DAP i know la... QUOTE(kabukiawie @ Jun 3 2009, 12:13 AM) i am back with my puny P42.4A + p4p800x + 1gbram + radeon9550. just setup today. very satisfied with the performance as it can play 720p movies smoothly. very huge improvement compare to my previous AthlonXP. will try 1080p soon, see how it goes @pengster hi, long time no see. and when see you already comeout with tons of guddies. makes me itchy only... haha @ray dont say like that, you buy mostly 2nd hand good stuffs. and most of it can't get it in the market liao. mine cpu is oem, mobo get the cheapest 1+ builtin vga, value ram. thats all.... even hdd still using 2nd hand PATA 80gb hdd. only ram and mobo is from shop, still the cheapest from the shelf. this rig will put me in hibernate for sometime before have $$ for new gear. Your 2.4A is back,glad to hear that.But maybe you can look for a faster proc to replace your 2.4A.....Your 720p movie utilize how many % of the cpu resources? Your AthlonXP speed is slower than 2.4A? Then must be dinosaur age one..haha
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fylon	Jun 3 2009, 09:24 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #375
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	@pengster Hahha! Xigmatek? Doing well man. Cheaper version of TRUE120. My idle load (with recently these current freaking hot day), idle is around 40-43'c. Night time will drop around 37-39'c. Full load with 4 core stress kaw kaw by prime95 is around 70-73'c. Temp can be trimp again actually by using high cfm fan. But im just too lazy to swap the fan. Having 4 CM 90CFM on hand.. Planning to make by this Saturday. @Kabu Which part itchy after look @ pengster rigs? Hahah!
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TSraymond5105	Jun 3 2009, 09:59 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #376
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	kabu itchy already,wait and see for his next upgrade.
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edministrator	Jun 3 2009, 12:56 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #377
Regular Senior Member 1,940 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Soviet Sarawak	ADP= Advanced Diploma Programme, most likely... @kabu, reviving your p4 rig 2 replace athlon? selling athlon rig? @fylon, recommend pengster prolima since he is top kayaman, dun recommend cheapo lah.
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TSraymond5105	Jun 3 2009, 02:11 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #378
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	QUOTE(edministrator @ Jun 3 2009, 12:56 PM) ADP= Advanced Diploma Programme, most likely... @kabu, reviving your p4 rig 2 replace athlon? selling athlon rig? @fylon, recommend pengster prolima since he is top kayaman, dun recommend cheapo lah. I spotted a lot of kayaman are mostly from Sarawak there. Guess i might consider to work there too! ADP=nice short form over there. I'm too outdated already,don't know this shortform
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fylon	Jun 3 2009, 03:24 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #379
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	@Ray Nono.. Pengster were from subang. Hahha.. Still west msia ppl are richer! Jk! @Edmin Haha.. Me poor ma.. Everything OEM. I'm looking for OEM LCD now. Only few items I have is 1st hand nia. Xigmatek was one it.
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Jcsy	Jun 3 2009, 03:57 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #380
Frag First! Think Later? Senior Member 2,782 posts Joined: Feb 2006 From: BANGSARian	QUOTE(kabukiawie @ Jun 3 2009, 12:13 AM) i am back with my puny P42.4A + p4p800x + 1gbram + radeon9550. just setup today. very satisfied with the performance as it can play 720p movies smoothly. very huge improvement compare to my previous AthlonXP. will try 1080p soon, see how it goes and for some reason, mine cant at all... =.=
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TSraymond5105	Jun 3 2009, 04:39 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #381
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	QUOTE(Jcsy @ Jun 3 2009, 03:57 PM) and for some reason, mine cant at all... =.= Why can't?
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edministrator	Jun 3 2009, 04:47 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #382
Regular Senior Member 1,940 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Soviet Sarawak	most likely coreavc not running.
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pengster	Jun 3 2009, 05:36 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #383
eVoWei™ Senior Member 7,757 posts Joined: May 2005 From: Subang	QUOTE(kabukiawie @ Jun 3 2009, 12:13 AM) i am back with my puny P42.4A + p4p800x + 1gbram + radeon9550. just setup today. very satisfied with the performance as it can play 720p movies smoothly. very huge improvement compare to my previous AthlonXP. will try 1080p soon, see how it goes @pengster hi, long time no see. and when see you already comeout with tons of guddies. makes me itchy only... haha @ray dont say like that, you buy mostly 2nd hand good stuffs. and most of it can't get it in the market liao. mine cpu is oem, mobo get the cheapest 1+ builtin vga, value ram. thats all.... even hdd still using 2nd hand PATA 80gb hdd. only ram and mobo is from shop, still the cheapest from the shelf. this rig will put me in hibernate for sometime before have $$ for new gear. Haha lately the prices of computer parts have dropped, especially HDDs, so good time to upgrade lah. Won't be upgrading for another few years, so it's not that bad QUOTE(raymond5105 @ Jun 3 2009, 09:15 AM) What's ADP? DAP i know la... Your 2.4A is back,glad to hear that.But maybe you can look for a faster proc to replace your 2.4A.....Your 720p movie utilize how many % of the cpu resources? Your AthlonXP speed is slower than 2.4A? Then must be dinosaur age one..haha ADP = American Degree Program =D QUOTE(fylon @ Jun 3 2009, 09:24 AM) @pengster Hahha! Xigmatek? Doing well man. Cheaper version of TRUE120. My idle load (with recently these current freaking hot day), idle is around 40-43'c. Night time will drop around 37-39'c. Full load with 4 core stress kaw kaw by prime95 is around 70-73'c. Temp can be trimp again actually by using high cfm fan. But im just too lazy to swap the fan. Having 4 CM 90CFM on hand.. Planning to make by this Saturday. @Kabu Which part itchy after look @ pengster rigs? Hahah! Ooh not bad, I'm looking at the HDT-S1283 now. Can't seem to find the Sunbeam Corecontact though. Mine idle first core 57c, the other 3 cores around 50c. Why ah? Full load around 70c+. Using Ultra90 somemore. Oh yeah, I'm still using my old 17" CRT btw.
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TSraymond5105	Jun 3 2009, 05:51 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #384
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	pengster,go for water cooling....and upgrade your monitor to 22" inches.
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pengster	Jun 3 2009, 07:39 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #385
eVoWei™ Senior Member 7,757 posts Joined: May 2005 From: Subang	QUOTE(raymond5105 @ Jun 3 2009, 05:51 PM) pengster,go for water cooling....and upgrade your monitor to 22" inches. Still waiting for the green light for a LCD monitor. Water cooling? Totally no experience with water cooling. I was thinking of getting a Sunbeam Core Contact Freezer @ RM165 from Garage Sales. BTW bros, how much do you guys think I can sell off the P4 2.4B, MSI Neo2-V, 2xKVR400s with heatspreaders and a 6800GS?
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kabukiawie	Jun 3 2009, 07:55 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #386
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 2,039 posts Joined: Jan 2003	QUOTE(raymond5105 @ Jun 3 2009, 09:15 AM) Your 2.4A is back,glad to hear that.But maybe you can look for a faster proc to replace your 2.4A.....Your 720p movie utilize how many % of the cpu resources? Your AthlonXP speed is slower than 2.4A? Then must be dinosaur age one..haha is 2.4GHz prescott la, 1mb L2 533fsb... my athlonxp is 1.66ghz more dino than my p4... lolz... 720 around 80+-%... tested 1080p, with coreAVC also lag an sound/video not sync. tonight i post screenshot. QUOTE(raymond5105 @ Jun 3 2009, 09:59 AM) kabu itchy already,wait and see for his next upgrade. wait lo... that time you will be full with dust waiting. not srawakians are kayaman... is still alot of dino around..... most of lyn members use c2d for years and many switching to i7+ddr3. thats why majority this thread members are from here. Ed and me stick to our p4 rig for ages...he still use his p4m, i revived my p4 again. QUOTE(edministrator @ Jun 3 2009, 12:56 PM) ADP= Advanced Diploma Programme, most likely... @kabu, reviving your p4 rig 2 replace athlon? selling athlon rig? @fylon, recommend pengster prolima since he is top kayaman, dun recommend cheapo lah. what to do... can sense my axp a bit out of juice. haha... main reason is that my xp120 bracket collecting dust there. so just put it in use.
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edministrator	Jun 3 2009, 08:16 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #387
Regular Senior Member 1,940 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Soviet Sarawak	@kabu, nice revival of your p4 (oc a bit for powah), ya, my p4m still rocking good. the lcd mampus last 2 weeks, managed 2 salvage lcd from an old wrecked acer notebook courtesy of a friend as replacement, FOC. now the p4m still 24/7 torrenting! on Vista ftw! will be on win7 when released. 512MB ram ain't so bad for torrent rig, lol. only use new rig for multimedia purpose and as needed, save electricity, haha. lately no gaming also. busy with 'projects'. This post has been edited by edministrator: Jun 3 2009, 08:23 PM
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TSraymond5105	Jun 3 2009, 10:14 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #388
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	Wah each person has 2 rigs there, kaya also.I have only 1 rig only here.The rest are not with me.
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kabukiawie	Jun 3 2009, 11:49 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #389
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 2,039 posts Joined: Jan 2003	@ed wei wei wei... what "PROJECT"??? now really satisfied with the p4. quite responsive compare to last time. @ray dont say like that, my another rig just old rig. refurbished dino pc. just tested my p4 with 720p dark knight, here's the screenshot on my 17" CRT. too bad 1080p is not happy with my p4... This post has been edited by kabukiawie: Jun 4 2009, 12:24 AM
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SurpriseZZZZZ	Jun 4 2009, 07:06 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #390
Casual Junior Member 425 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Seremban	P4 478 user reporting in for 2nd time! This is the 2nd time I been here. I just set up my download pc (2nd pc) with P4 2.4G. That is an old cpu anyway, got my ram from different friends. The machine is actually contributed by several friends. Now i have enough hardware to build the 3rd com already. But I don't need the 3rd one. P4 is good enough for my daily activities. But wonder how fast will i7 be? compared to my current com. tempted to upgrade by the way, i do have one sempron 2500++ over here. which one is better cpu? 1) Sempron 2500+ 2) P4 2.4 Ghz (533 Mhz Fsb) This post has been edited by SurpriseZZZZZ: Jun 4 2009, 07:12 AM
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kabukiawie	Jun 4 2009, 07:35 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #391
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 2,039 posts Joined: Jan 2003	@SurpriseZZZZZ nice, please state the complete spec so that brother ray will be able to update in the list. no need compare, even c2d is very hard to compete already. like mine e6230 can easily drag a mile ahead of my previous p4, even at stock. i7 is another level above. s754 sempron 2500+?? i tried both 2.4GHz prescott and 2500+ before. can tell you that p4 is definitely better. if athlon64 then maybe different story. sempron normal use is quite efficient and cooler.
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SurpriseZZZZZ	Jun 4 2009, 07:46 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #392
Casual Junior Member 425 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Seremban	QUOTE(kabukiawie @ Jun 4 2009, 07:35 AM) @SurpriseZZZZZ nice, please state the complete spec so that brother ray will be able to update in the list. no need compare, even c2d is very hard to compete already. like mine e6230 can easily drag a mile ahead of my previous p4, even at stock. i7 is another level above. s754 sempron 2500+?? i tried both 2.4GHz prescott and 2500+ before. can tell you that p4 is definitely better. if athlon64 then maybe different story. sempron normal use is quite efficient and cooler. nono, its 362 sempron, the old socket. then i shall keep my rigs and save for another rigs then. i started to upgrade my rig a few years back and now so many old rigs in my room. I can easily make 3 rig out of my "collection" If can merge all cpu together then good.
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fylon	Jun 4 2009, 09:13 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #393
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	Everyone 2 rigs eh.. I'm only having one. Ray, we are in the same board.. Company laptop only use during working hour, rest of the time stay in the laptop beg. Haha! Btw guys.. Running something behind the scene. Will update u guys once i complete it. @SurpriseZZZZZ Welcome to the dino museum thread. Anyways, if me i would suggest u go for 2.4Ghz at at least spd is the matter if u comparing with the old 362.
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TSraymond5105	Jun 4 2009, 09:23 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #394
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	@SurpriseZZZZZ, give me your spec please. @kabu,your 2.4G is using 60% of the cpu resource while playing 720p. It can show that old school is capable to paly hd movies nicely with the help of CoreAVC. Added on June 4, 2009, 9:24 am@fylon,i'm using an entry level of the Pentium Dual core in the company,no laptop for me. This post has been edited by raymond5105: Jun 4 2009, 09:24 AM
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fylon	Jun 4 2009, 09:39 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #395
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	@Ray Haha.. Cause im onsite engineer, i have to have 1 laptop ma.. Is a Centrino Duo, T5300 1.75Ghz with 2GB ram. Everything is nice, beside the onboard display which is 945G! No gaming for this guy.
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kabukiawie	Jun 4 2009, 10:31 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #396
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 2,039 posts Joined: Jan 2003	QUOTE(SurpriseZZZZZ @ Jun 4 2009, 07:46 AM) nono, its 362 sempron, the old socket. then i shall keep my rigs and save for another rigs then. i started to upgrade my rig a few years back and now so many old rigs in my room. I can easily make 3 rig out of my "collection" If can merge all cpu together then good. socketA?? my socketA AthlonXp2000+ just retired. should be s462 right? i think the performance is almost the same as old Axp. unless is barton which is 333 or 400fsb. QUOTE(raymond5105 @ Jun 4 2009, 09:23 AM) @kabu,your 2.4G is using 60% of the cpu resource while playing 720p. It can show that old school is capable to paly hd movies nicely with the help of CoreAVC. how is yours? You have better spec than me. by fact it should be better perform than mine. 1080p you cant play smoothly? i cant, ed last time can, quite weird...
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TSraymond5105	Jun 4 2009, 12:02 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #397
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	QUOTE(fylon @ Jun 4 2009, 09:39 AM) @Ray Haha.. Cause im onsite engineer, i have to have 1 laptop ma.. Is a Centrino Duo, T5300 1.75Ghz with 2GB ram. Everything is nice, beside the onboard display which is 945G! No gaming for this guy. Mine desktop spec is E2160 with 2GB of RAM. Graphic is crap,build in one. QUOTE(kabukiawie @ Jun 4 2009, 10:31 AM) socketA?? my socketA AthlonXp2000+ just retired. should be s462 right? i think the performance is almost the same as old Axp. unless is barton which is 333 or 400fsb. how is yours? You have better spec than me. by fact it should be better perform than mine. 1080p you cant play smoothly? i cant, ed last time can, quite weird... Old athlon is running at 333fsb only. I don't have any 1080p with me.I will try later when i get it.Why edmin one was weired?
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fylon	Jun 4 2009, 12:13 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #398
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	@kabu Processor that makes the diff? Rmb ed were using 3.0Ghz. Btw guys, am letting go my Audigy 2 ZS, anyone interested do PM me.
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pengster	Jun 4 2009, 12:59 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #399
eVoWei™ Senior Member 7,757 posts Joined: May 2005 From: Subang	QUOTE(fylon @ Jun 4 2009, 12:13 PM) @kabu Processor that makes the diff? Rmb ed were using 3.0Ghz. Btw guys, am letting go my Audigy 2 ZS, anyone interested do PM me. Why letting go? Upgrading? Currently still satisfied with my Audigy 4.
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TSraymond5105	Jun 4 2009, 01:22 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #400
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	Letting go Audigy ZS pula, The sound card cannot satisfy you already? Added on June 4, 2009, 1:22 pmAudigy 4 is coming with remote control right? This post has been edited by raymond5105: Jun 4 2009, 01:22 PM
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fylon	Jun 4 2009, 01:49 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #401
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	@Pengster & Ray Yea.. Ada secret deal.. Update u guys once my monster is complete. Now only partially.. Something in pending.. After this huge upgrade, will be stop touching the pc liao. Wanna save up for SLR!
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TSraymond5105	Jun 4 2009, 01:53 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #402
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	Going for SLR already,everyone is upgrading there.
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fylon	Jun 4 2009, 02:33 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #403
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	@Ray Yea. SLR.. Budget 2k only.. Entry player.. But before that, need to settle my system. Kasik satu kali update kaw kaw! Haha!
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kabukiawie	Jun 4 2009, 05:15 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #404
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 2,039 posts Joined: Jan 2003	i think fylon most probable getting x-Fi la... audigy where got kick???
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fylon	Jun 4 2009, 05:51 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #405
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	Who knows Xonar D2 pop out?
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pengster	Jun 4 2009, 07:38 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #406
eVoWei™ Senior Member 7,757 posts Joined: May 2005 From: Subang	QUOTE(raymond5105 @ Jun 4 2009, 01:22 PM) Letting go Audigy ZS pula, The sound card cannot satisfy you already? Added on June 4, 2009, 1:22 pmAudigy 4 is coming with remote control right? Yup comes with a remote. Love it. So easy to adjust the volume QUOTE(fylon @ Jun 4 2009, 02:33 PM) @Ray Yea. SLR.. Budget 2k only.. Entry player.. But before that, need to settle my system. Kasik satu kali update kaw kaw! Haha! Nikon? Or Canon? QUOTE(fylon @ Jun 4 2009, 05:51 PM) Who knows Xonar D2 pop out? Wah kayaman. XD
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edministrator	Jun 4 2009, 07:50 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #407
Regular Senior Member 1,940 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Soviet Sarawak	ini kes piramid, guyz... fylon get my xfi extrememusic, i go get xfi pcie, lulz~~~ wtf, pcie card is a looooot shorter and less components than extrememusic This post has been edited by edministrator: Jun 4 2009, 07:51 PM
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fylon	Jun 4 2009, 08:15 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #408
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	Haha.. The truth reveal. Oh yea.. Grabbing ed's XtremeMusic and sell off my Audigy 2.. Something big is coming by tomorrow.. @edmin Itu crystallizer really rox man.. Big improve from Audigy. The sounds get clearer and sharper. But due to limitation of headset.. Feel like shit.. Eh.. U got ur card already? Whats tat? @Pengster Nikon D60.. Entry level lo.. What to do.. Haha! Kena poison kaw kaw liao.
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Jcsy	Jun 4 2009, 08:52 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #409
Frag First! Think Later? Senior Member 2,782 posts Joined: Feb 2006 From: BANGSARian	QUOTE(edministrator @ Jun 3 2009, 04:47 PM) most likely coreavc not running. definitely not running coz the utilization same with and without coreavc on and off =.= "D
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edministrator	Jun 4 2009, 09:05 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #410
Regular Senior Member 1,940 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Soviet Sarawak	QUOTE(Jcsy @ Jun 4 2009, 08:52 PM) definitely not running coz the utilization same with and without coreavc on and off =.= "D check back my post where i assisted ray step by step on how to ensure coreavc is running properly. Added on June 4, 2009, 9:25 pm@fylon, i terbeli ini... http://www.soundblaster.com/products/produ...8&product=17927 This post has been edited by edministrator: Jun 4 2009, 09:25 PM
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TSraymond5105	Jun 4 2009, 10:37 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #411
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	QUOTE(edministrator @ Jun 4 2009, 09:05 PM) check back my post where i assisted ray step by step on how to ensure coreavc is running properly. Added on June 4, 2009, 9:25 pm@fylon, i terbeli ini... http://www.soundblaster.com/products/produ...8&product=17927 All of you all are music and slr enthusiast...X-Fi Titanium.... Itu sound card sekarang jual berapa? D60...not bad ya the camera.....
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pengster	Jun 5 2009, 12:06 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #412
eVoWei™ Senior Member 7,757 posts Joined: May 2005 From: Subang	QUOTE(fylon @ Jun 4 2009, 08:15 PM) Haha.. The truth reveal. Oh yea.. Grabbing ed's XtremeMusic and sell off my Audigy 2.. Something big is coming by tomorrow.. @edmin Itu crystallizer really rox man.. Big improve from Audigy. The sounds get clearer and sharper. But due to limitation of headset.. Feel like shit.. Eh.. U got ur card already? Whats tat? @Pengster Nikon D60.. Entry level lo.. What to do.. Haha! Kena poison kaw kaw liao. Don't buy D60, get the new D5000. Much more worth it. Seriously. Same sensor as D90/D300 Btw bro, which do you recommend, S1283, Red Scorpion or Achilles? This post has been edited by pengster: Jun 5 2009, 12:08 AM
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kabukiawie	Jun 5 2009, 12:20 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #413
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 2,039 posts Joined: Jan 2003	@ed ho... you diam diam have undertable business with fylon oo.... haha... glad that you have got the "shorter" x-fi.. see when go your house feel the ump and crisps. @fylon congrates, haha... i should know you get from ed... lolz... he mentioned to me that he eyeing for pcie x-fi, odnt know that fast you grab dy. @ray i think if oem should be around rm300+-. last time i saw it sell at garage. will pm ed for details... @pengster Dark knight!!! that 1 looks the coolest;
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fylon	Jun 5 2009, 12:33 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #414
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	@edmin Terbeli? Berapa ribu u TER-guna? @Pengster Cannot lo.. Out of my budget eh.. I max only got 2k. So D60 lo.. Some more im new kaki.. Haaha! P/s: Honestly i will suggest u got for RS / S1283 Dark knight. Achilles is just so so.. Eventhough 4 pipe but performance still been smoke away by RS. Im running on RS + stock fan (60cfm), current Temp @ late night'c is 38 for 1st core. the rest of 35'c. My 1st core is around 3-5'c diff with others. @Ray Hehe.. Putting my PC into entertainment line now.. So must be make the system "kick" on movie-ing and music-ing. This post has been edited by fylon: Jun 5 2009, 01:02 AM
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kabukiawie	Jun 5 2009, 02:55 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #415
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 2,039 posts Joined: Jan 2003	@fylon you kena who's poison?? haha... 2k is just the begining, flash, tripod, lence etc will be the coming wave. good hobby anyway.
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pengster	Jun 5 2009, 03:04 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #416
eVoWei™ Senior Member 7,757 posts Joined: May 2005 From: Subang	QUOTE(kabukiawie @ Jun 5 2009, 12:20 AM) @ed ho... you diam diam have undertable business with fylon oo.... haha... glad that you have got the "shorter" x-fi.. see when go your house feel the ump and crisps. @fylon congrates, haha... i should know you get from ed... lolz... he mentioned to me that he eyeing for pcie x-fi, odnt know that fast you grab dy. @ray i think if oem should be around rm300+-. last time i saw it sell at garage. will pm ed for details... @pengster Dark knight!!! that 1 looks the coolest; Looks the best but the performance not as good as I would expect QUOTE(fylon @ Jun 5 2009, 12:33 AM) @edmin Terbeli? Berapa ribu u TER-guna? @Pengster Cannot lo.. Out of my budget eh.. I max only got 2k. So D60 lo.. Some more im new kaki.. Haaha! P/s: Honestly i will suggest u got for RS / S1283 Dark knight. Achilles is just so so.. Eventhough 4 pipe but performance still been smoke away by RS. Im running on RS + stock fan (60cfm), current Temp @ late night'c is 38 for 1st core. the rest of 35'c. My 1st core is around 3-5'c diff with others. @Ray Hehe.. Putting my PC into entertainment line now.. So must be make the system "kick" on movie-ing and music-ing. Hmm okay thanks alot bro. I think I'll get the RS. My first core is like almost 10c difference from the other 3 cores
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kabukiawie	Jun 5 2009, 03:14 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #417
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 2,039 posts Joined: Jan 2003	@pengster if want better performance, true 120 is the way to go, like ed's.
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pengster	Jun 5 2009, 03:35 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #418
eVoWei™ Senior Member 7,757 posts Joined: May 2005 From: Subang	QUOTE(kabukiawie @ Jun 5 2009, 03:14 PM) @pengster if want better performance, true 120 is the way to go, like ed's. TRUE RM300 lah Whereas the Xigmatek only RM110-RM130 BTW fylon, are you using the bolt through kit for your Xigmatek or just the normal push pins?
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edministrator	Jun 5 2009, 03:49 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #419
Regular Senior Member 1,940 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Soviet Sarawak	fylon used the crossbow kit.
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fylon	Jun 5 2009, 03:53 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #420
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	@Kabu Haha.. I also TerBeli from edmin.. Some more got personal courier le. The item sent to my house after 2 hrs placed order. P/s: Definitely not edmin, but another fren of mine that keep showing his result of his Pantex K10. At the end kena poison kaw kaw. @Pengster Honestly, go for RS if u on tight budget like me. Alot of review had pointed out, RS only like 1-3'c different from TRUE. So, why spent more right? Rather spend the extra penny for CM 90cfm fan. Hm.. Im using hte bolt through kit bro. Anyways, Edmin's true is a steal, he got it for RM220 if not mistaken. Ofcause used unit. But still shine.
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lingloong	Jun 5 2009, 03:59 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #421
# Noob In Trading # Senior Member 1,256 posts Joined: Aug 2007 From: Ampang TO Sibu	QUOTE(pengster @ Jun 5 2009, 03:35 PM) TRUE RM300 lah Whereas the Xigmatek only RM110-RM130 BTW fylon, are you using the bolt through kit for your Xigmatek or just the normal push pins? He's using the Crossbow (ACK-I7361)
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kabukiawie	Jun 5 2009, 04:10 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #422
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 2,039 posts Joined: Jan 2003	@lingloong bro, got sell thermalright lga775rm retention module?? if got please let me know, need it for xp120 on my 775 mobo. thanks.
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lingloong	Jun 5 2009, 04:18 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #423
# Noob In Trading # Senior Member 1,256 posts Joined: Aug 2007 From: Ampang TO Sibu	QUOTE(kabukiawie @ Jun 5 2009, 04:10 PM) @lingloong bro, got sell thermalright lga775rm retention module?? if got please let me know, need it for xp120 on my 775 mobo. thanks. Retention module for LGA775 I don't think my supplier got bring those separately. I'm sorry Bro
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kabukiawie	Jun 5 2009, 04:25 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #424
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 2,039 posts Joined: Jan 2003	is for older model like xp120, xp90c, xp60,si120 etc. cause those hfs are before 775. i know its hard to find. but if you manage to bring it, please let me know. Thanks a lot.
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fylon	Jun 5 2009, 05:00 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #425
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	Aikz.. Bro lingloong come support this thread? Haha.. Anyways pengster, he is right. Im using the latest crossbow kit for my RS. It support both LG775 and LG1366.
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pengster	Jun 5 2009, 06:13 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #426
eVoWei™ Senior Member 7,757 posts Joined: May 2005 From: Subang	QUOTE(edministrator @ Jun 5 2009, 03:49 PM) fylon used the crossbow kit. Ah i see, thanks! QUOTE(fylon @ Jun 5 2009, 03:53 PM) @Kabu Haha.. I also TerBeli from edmin.. Some more got personal courier le. The item sent to my house after 2 hrs placed order. P/s: Definitely not edmin, but another fren of mine that keep showing his result of his Pantex K10. At the end kena poison kaw kaw. @Pengster Honestly, go for RS if u on tight budget like me. Alot of review had pointed out, RS only like 1-3'c different from TRUE. So, why spent more right? Rather spend the extra penny for CM 90cfm fan. Hm.. Im using hte bolt through kit bro. Anyways, Edmin's true is a steal, he got it for RM220 if not mistaken. Ofcause used unit. But still shine. Ooh okay. Contemplating whether to get the crossbow or not. If I get it then have to take out everything again There's a 2nd hand TRUE @ Garage Sales for RM200 QUOTE(lingloong @ Jun 5 2009, 03:59 PM) He's using the Crossbow (ACK-I7361) Sweet.
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edministrator	Jun 5 2009, 07:59 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #427
Regular Senior Member 1,940 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Soviet Sarawak	that true's a sweet deal, but take note there's no 1366 bracket included.
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pengster	Jun 5 2009, 08:08 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #428
eVoWei™ Senior Member 7,757 posts Joined: May 2005 From: Subang	I might get that. RM200 for a TRUE sounds tempting. But I've heard that it needs to be lapped to perform better. Is that true?
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edministrator	Jun 5 2009, 08:21 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #429
Regular Senior Member 1,940 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Soviet Sarawak	QUOTE(pengster @ Jun 5 2009, 08:08 PM) I might get that. RM200 for a TRUE sounds tempting. But I've heard that it needs to be lapped to perform better. Is that true? 1-2C improvement, depends if u think it's worth it.
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kabukiawie	Jun 5 2009, 09:34 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #430
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 2,039 posts Joined: Jan 2003	haha... red scorpion is very tempting to me. ops... agong just throw a clod sight on me. XD
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fylon	Jun 5 2009, 09:44 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #431
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	@Kabu Sell off ur XP120 la.. Get RS! Its rocking ass!
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kabukiawie	Jun 5 2009, 09:51 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #432
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 2,039 posts Joined: Jan 2003	no need. haha... cause even now intel stock HFS(sponsored by Mr. Ed) still very efficient and silent. no need burn more cash. haha... windows shopping~~~priceless. XD
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fylon	Jun 5 2009, 10:04 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #433
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	Haa.. Then u still looking for the retention module? Since stock is sufficient for u, just sell off the XP120 to get some extra penny keep in pocket.
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duncan880409	Jun 5 2009, 10:06 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #434
Like Working in My Lab ^^ Senior Member 3,700 posts Joined: May 2007 From: KT/UTM Skudai	QUOTE(raymond5105 @ May 31 2009, 12:03 PM) The south bridge hot causing slow transfer rate to the HDD i think. Get a small fan to cool down the south bridge and see if helps of not. put a heatsink at there, i dint put fan, cant find a similar size fan.. well after put heatsink is better, i just put it 45 degree the casing, so that the heatsink can touch the Sbridge, i dont want to put thermal paste as still under warranty, now ur idea? RMA??
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TSraymond5105	Jun 5 2009, 10:09 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #435
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	@duncan880409, i don't know what is the nature of the Raffles Southbridge chipset behaves.If after RMA is still hot then what you can do is just add another heatsink with thermal paste with a fan to cool it down. What chipset is the southbridge?
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edministrator	Jun 5 2009, 11:05 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #436
Regular Senior Member 1,940 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Soviet Sarawak	yea, best way is to add thermal paste and heatsink fan on the southbridge and test the results.
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lingloong	Jun 6 2009, 12:26 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #437
# Noob In Trading # Senior Member 1,256 posts Joined: Aug 2007 From: Ampang TO Sibu	QUOTE(fylon @ Jun 5 2009, 05:00 PM) Aikz.. Bro lingloong come support this thread? Haha.. Anyways pengster, he is right. Im using the latest crossbow kit for my RS. It support both LG775 and LG1366. Aha... Just drop by to say hello. Coz my 2nd Rig still using P4 S478 3.0Ghz E for torrenting
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kabukiawie	Jun 6 2009, 10:11 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #438
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 2,039 posts Joined: Jan 2003	most of the 478 mobo's southbridge dont come with heatsink. only northbridge. weird that your southbridge is hot. stick a small heatsink on the chip + thermal paste will do. haha... reminds me of my audigy having a small sink on its main processor modded by ed.
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dlwl	Jun 6 2009, 10:45 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #439
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 4,789 posts Joined: Aug 2005 From: Ipoh <---> Kuala Lumpur	QUOTE(kabukiawie @ Jun 5 2009, 09:34 PM) haha... red scorpion is very tempting to me. ops... agong just throw a clod sight on me. XD just get it haha..bought one the other day for my friend. helped him fixed it onto the mobo also..made me wanna get one myself too good thing my casing is small, cant fit red scorpion. otherwise itchy to get it already!
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edministrator	Jun 6 2009, 12:20 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #440
Regular Senior Member 1,940 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Soviet Sarawak	@kabu yeah, i modded it before passing it 2 u. that's not mine though, my friend's unit. shows that anything can be modded for better performance depending on creativity. my new xfi is bare card, no heat sink on board, and i m feeling skeptical since my ex-xfi has one... @dlwl, your casing side panel cannot be closed if you installed the RS on your mobo, lol... how's your TMG i2 performing compared to stock?
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kabukiawie	Jun 6 2009, 12:29 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #441
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 2,039 posts Joined: Jan 2003	yea... just noticed dlwl using TT TMG i2, loks cool but dunno how well it goes.: hmm:
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dlwl	Jun 6 2009, 12:41 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #442
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 4,789 posts Joined: Aug 2005 From: Ipoh <---> Kuala Lumpur	yeah, it could just barely fit in my friend's cm wavemaster definately my casing cant already TT TMGi2 is definately a good buy for me..got it for a good price very silent, even though i'm running it at constant full speed. temperatures are pretty good too, currently my processor temps are about 35C, if on a cool night can go down to 30C if not mistaken last time on my stock cooler it was about 40C+. now with full load it doesnt, or seldom exceed 50C. dunno can change the fan or not..wanna change to bling bling fan
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ianho	Jun 6 2009, 01:00 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #443
Cucimangkoklife VIP 15,705 posts Joined: Mar 2005 From: Tg. Rambutan	kabukiawie, I just went to LYP, took a look around for the TR775 bracket for u. Sulah abis. Sri and ALL IT oso no more.
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edministrator	Jun 6 2009, 01:04 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #444
Regular Senior Member 1,940 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Soviet Sarawak	QUOTE(ianho @ Jun 6 2009, 01:00 PM) kabukiawie, I just went to LYP, took a look around for the TR775 bracket for u. Sulah abis. Sri and ALL IT oso no more. it's a cruel, cruel world time to move on to the next gen of coolers, bro~ P/S: uncle ianho, have u seen this? Hot chilli sauce: http://www.pcper.com/article.php?aid=723 http://www.hitechlegion.com/outside/mpr/76...0-computex-2009 This post has been edited by edministrator: Jun 6 2009, 01:06 PM
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kabukiawie	Jun 6 2009, 01:23 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #445
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 2,039 posts Joined: Jan 2003	@ianho thank you for your help. too bad, like ed said, time to go for next gen cooler. seems stock HFS can handle the temp, just let it be at the moment. @ed that case is COOL!!!!! but giantly huge.
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ianho	Jun 6 2009, 01:42 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #446
Cucimangkoklife VIP 15,705 posts Joined: Mar 2005 From: Tg. Rambutan	Wah that case is very nice indeed. Unfortunately it's made by Thermaltake. A brand that I'm not very keen on.
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TSraymond5105	Jun 6 2009, 04:08 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #447
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	QUOTE(edministrator @ Jun 6 2009, 12:20 PM) @kabu yeah, i modded it before passing it 2 u. that's not mine though, my friend's unit. shows that anything can be modded for better performance depending on creativity. my new xfi is bare card, no heat sink on board, and i m feeling skeptical since my ex-xfi has one... @dlwl, your casing side panel cannot be closed if you installed the RS on your mobo, lol... how's your TMG i2 performing compared to stock? Modded with a heatsink on the sound card does improve the performance of it?
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pengster	Jun 6 2009, 05:08 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #448
eVoWei™ Senior Member 7,757 posts Joined: May 2005 From: Subang	Just reinstalled my Ultra 90 with TX-2 and the temps I got at idle is 61c,52c,57c,56c. Hot sia
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TSraymond5105	Jun 6 2009, 05:09 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #449
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	QUOTE(pengster @ Jun 6 2009, 05:08 PM) Just reinstalled my Ultra 90 with TX-2 and the temps I got at idle is 61c,52c,57c,56c. Hot sia Intel stock cooler is better than the Ultra 90?
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kabukiawie	Jun 6 2009, 05:25 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #450
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 2,039 posts Joined: Jan 2003	@pengster ultra 90 so bad?? hmm... i thought i can be better alot than normal 3rd party hfs. if wanna switch new hfs, throw ultra90 to me... haha. jk jk...
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TSraymond5105	Jun 6 2009, 05:32 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #451
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	QUOTE(kabukiawie @ Jun 6 2009, 05:25 PM) @pengster ultra 90 so bad?? hmm... i thought i can be better alot than normal 3rd party hfs. if wanna switch new hfs, throw ultra90 to me... haha. jk jk... Ask him to sponsor you when he switches to the new one. Lolz
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kabukiawie	Jun 6 2009, 05:49 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #452
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 2,039 posts Joined: Jan 2003	@ray yea, brilliant advice you got here. thanks a ton. @pengster sponsor me your ultra90 if you change your hfs. advice from ray jk jk... btw... your ultra since the 1st time you install on your quad already cant tame the temp below 50C?? weird.....
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edministrator	Jun 6 2009, 06:01 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #453
Regular Senior Member 1,940 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Soviet Sarawak	QUOTE(raymond5105 @ Jun 6 2009, 04:08 PM) Modded with a heatsink on the sound card does improve the performance of it? lol, what i meant was the heat dissipation of the chipsets... will also let the components live longer
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TSraymond5105	Jun 6 2009, 06:18 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #454
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	QUOTE(edministrator @ Jun 6 2009, 06:01 PM) lol, what i meant was the heat dissipation of the chipsets... will also let the components live longer Usually i don't see the sound card overheat one unless you "o/c " or modding the caps and power amp on the sound card.
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edministrator	Jun 6 2009, 06:25 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #455
Regular Senior Member 1,940 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Soviet Sarawak	QUOTE(raymond5105 @ Jun 6 2009, 06:18 PM) Usually i don't see the sound card overheat one unless you "o/c " or modding the caps and power amp on the sound card. u try ask kabu to touch the heatsink (attached to the spu), and report back here but anyway, some cooling is better than no cooling This post has been edited by edministrator: Jun 6 2009, 06:26 PM
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TSraymond5105	Jun 6 2009, 06:34 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #456
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	QUOTE(edministrator @ Jun 6 2009, 06:25 PM) u try ask kabu to touch the heatsink (attached to the spu), and report back here but anyway, some cooling is better than no cooling I haven't tried to touch my sound card yet. kabu's X-Fi is hotter than my old school one?
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edministrator	Jun 6 2009, 06:36 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #457
Regular Senior Member 1,940 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Soviet Sarawak	ray, fyi, all pci xfi spu comes with heatsink on the spu, while the later pcie version is bare naked. kabu's not xfi but audigy.
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TSraymond5105	Jun 6 2009, 06:38 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #458
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	@kabu,oh kabu's is audigy. Well i just touched my Audigy chip can felt a bit warn but still touchable.Maybe later might add on one heatsink if i manage to get a suitable one.The later version of X-Fi cut cost ?
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edministrator	Jun 6 2009, 09:06 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #459
Regular Senior Member 1,940 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Soviet Sarawak	QUOTE(raymond5105 @ Jun 6 2009, 06:38 PM) @kabu,oh kabu's is audigy. Well i just touched my Audigy chip can felt a bit warn but still touchable.Maybe later might add on one heatsink if i manage to get a suitable one.The later version of X-Fi cut cost ? no idea to cut cost or shrinked down chipset? anyway, good luck in modding the heatsink
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fylon	Jun 6 2009, 09:54 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #460
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	Wah.. Just away for 1 day and the thread got flooded! Hahha.. Anyways guys, just to update here.. Upgraded my system to a better stage. Within these 2 month i had lay my hand on: - 74GB Raptor - X-Fi XtremeMusic - Altec V4121 (currently run 4:2 with my old sch woofer) - OCZ Ram cooler (for the purpose of 3.2Ghz daily ) - 5* 90CFM fan - Swap my UD3R to Asus P5Q-PRO with my nephew - Swap my old sch LG 1780Q to Asus H233H Well.. This is my final upgrade list for my current system. Guess wont gonna touch it for sometime until something go died. P/s: Refer my siggy for full ist. This post has been edited by fylon: Jun 6 2009, 10:04 PM
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TSraymond5105	Jun 6 2009, 10:17 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #461
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	QUOTE(fylon @ Jun 6 2009, 09:54 PM) Wah.. Just away for 1 day and the thread got flooded! Hahha.. Anyways guys, just to update here.. Upgraded my system to a better stage. Within these 2 month i had lay my hand on: - 74GB Raptor - X-Fi XtremeMusic - Altec V4121 (currently run 4:2 with my old sch woofer) - OCZ Ram cooler (for the purpose of 3.2Ghz daily ) - 5* 90CFM fan - Swap my UD3R to Asus P5Q-PRO with my nephew - Swap my old sch LG 1780Q to Asus H233H Well.. This is my final upgrade list for my current system. Guess wont gonna touch it for sometime until something go died. P/s: Refer my siggy for full ist. Disappointed,no Asus Xonar comes out from you. Raptor 74GB only? Enough to use or not? 590CFM fans? On your CM690 ? Asus P5-Q Pro heard is not bad in o/cing. Your kentsfiled still can pushing harder to 3.3GHz . This post has been edited by raymond5105*: Jun 6 2009, 10:18 PM
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fylon	Jun 6 2009, 10:22 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #462
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	@Ray Haha.. The 74Gb just for mainly OS partition man. Games & etc will store at my other disk. Yea.. I not sure how far can the P5Q-PRO goes, but with my UD3R i could archive 3.2Ghz with 1:1 ratio. And CIE on. Btw, Acer H233H rocks. 23 inch, 16:9 full HD, all VGA, HDMI & DVI port available, 2ms response and the mainly thing i buy it is because of the price. RM630 only. P/s: Yea.. Cooler master 90cfm fan.. Rocks! Ask Edmin.. We are damnly satisfied with the performance, silent yet powerful. Good to act as exhaust fan. And RM27 per biji. Damn cheap if compare with those branded like silver stone. This post has been edited by fylon: Jun 6 2009, 10:23 PM
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TSraymond5105	Jun 6 2009, 10:23 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #463
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	Just now play C&C 3,i use Hardware Monitor to monitored my temperature. My GC can reach 71 degree C the highest, Guess need to get a Zalman to cool it down already. Sad sad...Don't know Zalman VF-700 Al-Cu can fit in my GC or not.
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fylon	Jun 6 2009, 10:24 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #464
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	Bro, 71'c full load is cold enough. Mine 73'c on IDLE.
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TSraymond5105	Jun 6 2009, 10:25 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #465
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	QUOTE(fylon @ Jun 6 2009, 10:22 PM) @Ray Haha.. The 74Gb just for mainly OS partition man. Games & etc will store at my other disk. Yea.. I not sure how far can the P5Q-PRO goes, but with my UD3R i could archive 3.2Ghz with 1:1 ratio. And CIE on. Btw, Acer H233H rocks. 23 inch, 16:9 full HD, all VGA, HDMI & DVI port available, 2ms response and the mainly thing i buy it is because of the price. RM630 only. 1:1 ratio is still getting the best performance in o/cing. I believe the performance won't be < than your UD3R. 22 inches with full HDMI supports. Nice. Added on June 6, 2009, 10:26 pm QUOTE(fylon @ Jun 6 2009, 10:24 PM) Bro, 71'c full load is cold enough. Mine 73'c on IDLE. Brother,your G92 so hot one? idle at 73 degree C? When play games load at 100 degree C ? This post has been edited by raymond5105: Jun 6 2009, 10:26 PM
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edministrator	Jun 6 2009, 10:34 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #466
Regular Senior Member 1,940 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Soviet Sarawak	his gc early gen is scorching hot. mine 50C idle, load max with atitool artifact finder only 74C.
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TSraymond5105	Jun 6 2009, 10:38 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #467
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	GTS260 is having the same core too. The 216sp version from you is 55nm?
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edministrator	Jun 6 2009, 10:45 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #468
Regular Senior Member 1,940 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Soviet Sarawak	QUOTE(raymond5105 @ Jun 6 2009, 10:38 PM) GTS260 is having the same core too. The 216sp version from you is 55nm? yeah. 216sp oc'ed.
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TSraymond5105	Jun 6 2009, 10:50 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #469
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	fylon,suddenly my mine think that your GC's heat is circulating in the casing that's why you will need 5*90 CFM fans yo cool them down?
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edministrator	Jun 6 2009, 10:55 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #470
Regular Senior Member 1,940 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Soviet Sarawak	QUOTE(raymond5105 @ Jun 6 2009, 10:50 PM) fylon,suddenly my mine think that your GC's heat is circulating in the casing that's why you will need 5*90 CFM fans yo cool them down? 5 high speed fans will only turn his cm690 to a dust magnet. gc's heat most likely does not stay in the cm690 based on the chassis design, even with stock chassis fans installed. i m using one so i know.
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TSraymond5105	Jun 6 2009, 11:09 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #471
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	I think sometime in the future i must make myself upgrade to a btter casing instead of using both side naked with a help of 40cm table fan blade to cool my case down.
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fylon	Jun 6 2009, 11:52 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #472
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	Haha.. I think the mobo placing also will influence the GC temp, my UP3R NB are much more near to my GC. But now swap to P5Q-PRO, temp drop to 65'c on idle. With 90CFM suck the hot air out from the side panel. And now over system has better temp control, core 1 38'c on idle, 54'c on full load in stock spd.
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kabukiawie	Jun 7 2009, 01:01 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #473
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 2,039 posts Joined: Jan 2003	@ray, Ed youched the sink, little warm only. i guess i not that crazy having party on the soundcard. me only use audigy, not yet try x-fi... @fylon waaa.... many nice item o...i dontbelieve you gonna stop upgrading. haha..... who knows i5 going cheap then you gonna swim there again jk btw, 590cfm fan dust dust... This post has been edited by kabukiawie*: Jun 7 2009, 07:24 AM
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fylon	Jun 7 2009, 09:17 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #474
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	@edmin & Kabu Ehe.. Can turn the performance down also bro. Asus smart Q-Fan control quite handy when come into managing the fan spd. 90CFM max can run @ 1.8k rpm le.. The sounds like vacum. P/s: Kabu, no more upgrade from now, haha! Intel I series will not going to be in my list. Reason is, cant change proc as u want. Whenever a new proc wanted, then mobo have to be change as well. Not a wise choice, intel is going smart is sucking penny..
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TSraymond5105	Jun 7 2009, 09:39 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #475
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	@kabu,same here. I have Audigy only,not X-Fi series. They have X-Fi series of course must take care off their toys. @fylon,your CM690 by default also have quite good air circulation in the casing too.The casing itself has tiny holes to dissipate the heat from inside,won't it help much?
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edministrator	Jun 7 2009, 09:41 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #476
Regular Senior Member 1,940 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Soviet Sarawak	QUOTE(raymond5105 @ Jun 7 2009, 09:39 AM) @kabu,same here. I have Audigy only,not X-Fi series. They have X-Fi series of course must take care off their toys. @fylon,your CM690 by default also have quite good air circulation in the casing too.The casing itself has tiny holes to dissipate the heat from inside,won't it help much? since he can afford the all fans, he just buy & install... as u know, kayaman style
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TSraymond5105	Jun 7 2009, 09:50 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #477
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	Loled edmin burn to him too...By the way is the CM690 having good air flow by default as the original design of the casing can help to dissipate heat too. Interested to get one unit in the future.
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edministrator	Jun 7 2009, 09:56 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #478
Regular Senior Member 1,940 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Soviet Sarawak	QUOTE(raymond5105 @ Jun 7 2009, 09:50 AM) Loled edmin burn to him too...By the way is the CM690 having good air flow by default as the original design of the casing can help to dissipate heat too. Interested to get one unit in the future. definitely good airflow and value for money (price range wise). but be aware that it's a dust magnet! i need to wipe the outer grills and the whole casing every 3-4 days...
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TSraymond5105	Jun 7 2009, 09:57 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #479
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	edmin,pros and cons over there...Well i don't mind to wipe out the dust there as my current casing is both side naked.
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edministrator	Jun 7 2009, 09:59 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #480
Regular Senior Member 1,940 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Soviet Sarawak	QUOTE(raymond5105 @ Jun 7 2009, 09:57 AM) edmin,pros and cons over there...Well i don't mind to wipe out the dust there as my current casing is both side naked. if that's no issue then great. changing frm my old casing to this drops my inner temp by few C, cpu and gpu.
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TSraymond5105	Jun 7 2009, 10:13 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #481
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	QUOTE(edministrator @ Jun 7 2009, 09:59 AM) if that's no issue then great. changing frm my old casing to this drops my inner temp by few C, cpu and gpu. A few C is huge man. We can definitely see the inner is cooler than other conventional casing. Hopefully this year end can get myself a new one.
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fylon	Jun 7 2009, 12:51 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #482
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	@edmin Where got kayaman style. I pick the 2nd hand 90CFM le.. RM20 each. Anyways, buy & install then + tweak the fan spd with voltage modding. In order to get silent setup and good air flow, once must put in some afford. @Ray CM690 in need is a good case, due can pasang banyak fan. But dust is the main headache. I clean mine once a week. Lol.. Feel like put filter for all my fan.
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edministrator	Jun 7 2009, 02:17 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #483
Regular Senior Member 1,940 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Soviet Sarawak	but if no kaya, also cannot buy no matter 1st or 2nd hand, betul? Your next upgrade, new gc...hohoho P/S: ray, come support my statement lah...haha This post has been edited by edministrator: Jun 7 2009, 02:45 PM
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ianho	Jun 7 2009, 03:16 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #484
Cucimangkoklife VIP 15,705 posts Joined: Mar 2005 From: Tg. Rambutan	QUOTE(fylon @ Jun 6 2009, 10:22 PM) @Ray Haha.. The 74Gb just for mainly OS partition man. Games & etc will store at my other disk. Yea.. I not sure how far can the P5Q-PRO goes, but with my UD3R i could archive 3.2Ghz with 1:1 ratio. And CIE on. Btw, Acer H233H rocks. 23 inch, 16:9 full HD, all VGA, HDMI & DVI port available, 2ms response and the mainly thing i buy it is because of the price. RM630 only. P/s: Yea.. Cooler master 90cfm fan.. Rocks! Ask Edmin.. We are damnly satisfied with the performance, silent yet powerful. Good to act as exhaust fan. And RM27 per biji. Damn cheap if compare with those branded like silver stone. The Coolermaster 90CFM fan quality is pretty bad. The blades are not perfectly balanced. It produces a humming sound with vibration. It's using sleeve bearings which is not good. The better fans are definitely worth the money.
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pengster	Jun 7 2009, 03:33 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #485
eVoWei™ Senior Member 7,757 posts Joined: May 2005 From: Subang	QUOTE(raymond5105 @ Jun 6 2009, 05:09 PM) Intel stock cooler is better than the Ultra 90? No idea, didn't try to stock cooler. It looks puny. QUOTE(kabukiawie @ Jun 6 2009, 05:25 PM) @pengster ultra 90 so bad?? hmm... i thought i can be better alot than normal 3rd party hfs. if wanna switch new hfs, throw ultra90 to me... haha. jk jk... Don't know leh. Thats why I headache now. Wondering why performance so lousy. Maybe I should change to a Panaflo 90mm fan. QUOTE(edministrator @ Jun 7 2009, 09:56 AM) definitely good airflow and value for money (price range wise). but be aware that it's a dust magnet! i need to wipe the outer grills and the whole casing every 3-4 days... Yup I totally agree. Using the CM690 too, paired with 3 TT Thunderblades and after a few days it gets choked with dust
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edministrator	Jun 7 2009, 04:19 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #486
Regular Senior Member 1,940 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Soviet Sarawak	that's the issue with any mesh type of chassis.
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kabukiawie	Jun 7 2009, 04:50 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #487
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 2,039 posts Joined: Jan 2003	@fylon kayaman's style-always got something new for the rig my style- never change rig, when force to change, take lots of time then in the end just cheapo upgrade. haha... @pengster have you check the thermal paste on the last time you reinstall ultra90? is the thermal paste well spread on the cpu? else must check your casing's airflow. tower type hfs seems very sensitive on ambient temp as it can absorb the heat faster. just my opinion.
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TSraymond5105	Jun 7 2009, 04:51 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #488
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	QUOTE(edministrator @ Jun 7 2009, 02:17 PM) but if no kaya, also cannot buy no matter 1st or 2nd hand, betul? Your next upgrade, new gc...hohoho P/S: ray, come support my statement lah...haha The old G92 is quite hot,can consider to upgrade to a newer one? edmin,am i correct? The add on some filter on the casing fan itself,i know the filter doesn't come cheap.
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pengster	Jun 7 2009, 05:28 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #489
eVoWei™ Senior Member 7,757 posts Joined: May 2005 From: Subang	QUOTE(kabukiawie @ Jun 7 2009, 04:50 PM) @fylon kayaman's style-always got something new for the rig my style- never change rig, when force to change, take lots of time then in the end just cheapo upgrade. haha... @pengster have you check the thermal paste on the last time you reinstall ultra90? is the thermal paste well spread on the cpu? else must check your casing's airflow. tower type hfs seems very sensitive on ambient temp as it can absorb the heat faster. just my opinion. Yeah actually this was the 2nd time I've reinstalled the Ultra90. Used Tuniq TX-2 and followed the directions properly for quad core cpus. Contact seems fine Ambient temp is about 37-38c so I guess its alright?
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TSraymond5105	Jun 7 2009, 07:01 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #490
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	QUOTE(pengster @ Jun 7 2009, 05:28 PM) Yeah actually this was the 2nd time I've reinstalled the Ultra90. Used Tuniq TX-2 and followed the directions properly for quad core cpus. Contact seems fine Ambient temp is about 37-38c so I guess its alright? How you installed your Ultra90 during the first time? Is there another way to install the haetsink?
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edministrator	Jun 7 2009, 07:11 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #491
Regular Senior Member 1,940 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Soviet Sarawak	QUOTE(raymond5105 @ Jun 7 2009, 07:01 PM) How you installed your Ultra90 during the first time? Is there another way to install the haetsink? checked the reviews for ultra90, the performance is just on par, so i doubt it would give a good temp on newer cpu like 9550.
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pengster	Jun 7 2009, 09:25 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #492
eVoWei™ Senior Member 7,757 posts Joined: May 2005 From: Subang	QUOTE(raymond5105 @ Jun 7 2009, 07:01 PM) How you installed your Ultra90 during the first time? Is there another way to install the haetsink? First time after setting up the new parts I totally didn't know that for quad core cpus you're supposed to apply the TIM in a line across the cpu. So i just did the normal way, a blob in the middle @edmin Yeah its a so-so cooler. Will be getting a Red Scorpion soon. Hopefully it can bring down the temps below 50c idle
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TSraymond5105	Jun 7 2009, 10:12 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #493
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	QUOTE(pengster @ Jun 7 2009, 09:25 PM) First time after setting up the new parts I totally didn't know that for quad core cpus you're supposed to apply the TIM in a line across the cpu. So i just did the normal way, a blob in the middle @edmin Yeah its a so-so cooler. Will be getting a Red Scorpion soon. Hopefully it can bring down the temps below 50c idle TIM in a line?
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pengster	Jun 7 2009, 10:46 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #494
eVoWei™ Senior Member 7,757 posts Joined: May 2005 From: Subang	QUOTE(raymond5105 @ Jun 7 2009, 10:12 PM) TIM in a line? Yep. According the AC's website. lol » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «
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kabukiawie	Jun 7 2009, 11:30 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #495
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 2,039 posts Joined: Jan 2003	wahaha... i was outdated. have read tru this before but that time still not using c2d. now using it still using middle drop. my bad... This post has been edited by kabukiawie: Jun 7 2009, 11:33 PM
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TSraymond5105	Jun 8 2009, 10:48 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #496
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	TIM in a line is going to use less thermal paste than our normal way? This is interesting.
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kabukiawie	Jun 8 2009, 11:07 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #497
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 2,039 posts Joined: Jan 2003	actually is because of the architecture, as for our single core cpu, put a drop in the middle is correct as core is at the middle. as for duo core, core alignment will be horizontal. so apply in a line will optimized contact on top of both cores to the sink. correct me of wrong.
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dlwl	Jun 8 2009, 11:14 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #498
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 4,789 posts Joined: Aug 2005 From: Ipoh <---> Kuala Lumpur	then how about applying in X form? across the 4 corners of the proc diagonally..does it make any difference?
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edministrator	Jun 8 2009, 11:18 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #499
Regular Senior Member 1,940 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Soviet Sarawak	i use old credit card method.
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TSraymond5105	Jun 8 2009, 11:20 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #500
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	QUOTE(edministrator @ Jun 8 2009, 11:18 AM) i use old credit card method. Vertically?
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