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 Official Microsoft Sidewinder Thread, Every Sidewinder - Framed and Reviewed

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post May 8 2009, 11:18 PM

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err .... I'm using DSLR Camera + Some Photoshop

on topic ... dunno why those reviewer's has test out that the lifetime on the Razer Mamba (as the official said lasts around 14 hours) minimize to 4-5 hours and it might cause from the firmware

but to Sidewinder are very difference because both using different battery so Sidewinder X8 lasts more longer on hardcore gaming =X compare to Mamba and same life time as Logitech G7 I think

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post May 9 2009, 05:00 AM

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After a little bit more than a week of testing, the X8 is a decent mouse although not exactly flawless. The mouse design is comfortable although at first, I have to get used with its narrower design compared to my old Lexma laser mouse (sometimes I have problem left/right-clicking the mouse). Takes a few days to do it.

The Bluetrack technology (which is the main reason why I bought it) works well on laminated printed glossy photo paper that I used as a mouse pad. Well, works as well as the older mouse at least. Haven't tried it too much on other surfaces, although I find out that the surface has to be flat for the tracking to work.

The battery life is very good. I do not use the supplied rechargeable battery but I use those disposable generic alkaline battery I bought from Giants hypermarket (Giant-branded - RM13 for 12 pieces pack) and it lasted for I think 7 or 8 days. During that period, I finished playing HL2: Episode 1 and some 15 hours of Left 4 Dead, plus general usage like posting to my blog here and other things like surfing etc.

My only complaint about the mouse is the weight. This mouse weight is double compared to my old mouse, and this really affect my aiming in Left 4 Dead. Not a factor in HL2: Episode 2 but my FF rate in Left 4 Dead increased when using this mouse. Even after a week, I still can't get used to the weight of this mouse, which means I now only play 'Normal' or 'Advanced' or even 'Easy' games online instead of the 'Expert' mode.
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post May 9 2009, 07:56 AM

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QUOTE(asellus @ May 9 2009, 05:00 AM)
After a little bit more than a week of testing, the X8 is a decent mouse although not exactly flawless. The mouse design is comfortable although at first, I have to get used with its narrower design compared to my old Lexma laser mouse (sometimes I have problem left/right-clicking the mouse). Takes a few days to do it.

The Bluetrack technology (which is the main reason why I bought it) works well on laminated printed glossy photo paper that I used as a mouse pad. Well, works as well as the older mouse at least. Haven't tried it too much on other surfaces, although I find out that the surface has to be flat for the tracking to work.

The battery life is very good. I do not use the supplied rechargeable battery but I use those disposable generic alkaline battery I bought from Giants hypermarket (Giant-branded -  RM13 for 12 pieces pack) and it lasted for I think 7 or 8 days. During that period, I finished playing HL2: Episode 1 and some 15 hours of Left 4 Dead, plus general usage like posting to my blog here and other things like surfing etc.

My only complaint about the mouse is the weight. This mouse weight is double compared to my old mouse, and this really affect my aiming in Left 4 Dead. Not a factor in HL2: Episode 2 but my FF rate in Left 4 Dead increased when using this mouse. Even after a week, I still can't get used to the weight of this mouse, which means I now only play 'Normal' or 'Advanced' or even 'Easy' games online instead of the 'Expert' mode.
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hmm..... if hardcore gaming how long does it lasts? do you try before? I need someone here to proof that o.o

and yet I'm quite comfort on using these kind of big and quite heavy mouse since my previous gaming mouse are that heavy ......

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post May 9 2009, 01:49 PM

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Any news wether MS will release the wireless version for X6 keyboard....thinking on getting the current X6, but already used with my current l Logitech Cordless Desktop MX 5000.
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post May 9 2009, 01:57 PM

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Right now there still no any others of wireless gaming keyboard ....

Maybe they encounter some problem....
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post May 9 2009, 04:35 PM

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QUOTE(silencer @ May 9 2009, 01:49 PM)
Any news wether MS will release the wireless version for X6 keyboard....thinking on getting the current X6, but already used with my current l Logitech Cordless Desktop MX 5000.
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Well, imo the closest u can get a wireless backlighted-keyboard its 'Wireless Entertainment Desktop 8000'.
http://www.microsoft.com/hardware/mouseand...ve_tab=overview

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post May 9 2009, 04:38 PM

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any cheap x6 keyboard?
promotion ?
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post May 9 2009, 04:58 PM

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QUOTE(TomatomanzSeedlezz @ May 9 2009, 04:35 PM)
Well, imo the closest u can get a wireless backlighted-keyboard its 'Wireless Entertainment Desktop 8000'.
http://www.microsoft.com/hardware/mouseand...ve_tab=overview

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the price is pretty insane to .... can buy many of G15 or even G19 XD likewise it also dun have numpad .... just like the normal laptop keypad but it's slim and rechargeable
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QUOTE(wingster @ May 9 2009, 04:58 PM)
the price is pretty insane to .... can buy many of G15 or even G19 XD likewise it also dun have numpad .... just like the normal laptop keypad but it's slim and rechargeable
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lol.. us$299 ... so abt rm1k...

Well... can't really compared with those wired keyboards u mention, as it comes with wireless laser mouse and docking station with 4-usb ports hub built-in tongue.gif

I read a few reviews on it.. but they didn't say abt the battery life.. and as expected.. it uses freaking 4-AA batteries!.. sweat.gif

Imo, its expensive due this cool feature as below :-

Intelligent Backlighting
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Backlighting comes on automatically when you approach the keyboard and turns off when you’re away, saving valuable battery life. And, backlight intensity automatically adjusts itself to the room lighting conditions.

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post May 9 2009, 05:13 PM

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QUOTE(TomatomanzSeedlezz @ May 9 2009, 04:35 PM)
Well, imo the closest u can get a wireless backlighted-keyboard its 'Wireless Entertainment Desktop 8000'.
http://www.microsoft.com/hardware/mouseand...ve_tab=overview

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post May 9 2009, 08:34 PM

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nice pics! is it better than razer lachesis? interested to get 1..
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The price is too darn expensive...and I believe that the function is similar with my current logitech BT desktop mx5000, built mainly for entertainment, and I have no intention to throw away my X8.
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I wonder how many people willing to buy an entertainment keyboard which is more expensive than G19... sweat.gif
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post May 9 2009, 10:05 PM

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QUOTE(silencer @ May 9 2009, 08:35 PM)
The price is too darn expensive...and I believe that the function is similar with my current logitech BT desktop mx5000, built mainly for entertainment, and I have no intention to throw away my X8.
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You are wrong bro .......
Function and performance is quite far for the Logitech MX5000 Cordless Desktop compare to 7000 and 8000 Entertainment Series

7000 and 8000 has more stable and high performance 2.4 Ghz Wireless dongle if you dun believe you can go do and compare they are very responsive and good performance as normal laptop keypad.

Likewise, LED Lighting is a great pawn and also the slim design and the rechargeable ability .......

Just the price 7000 Entertainment Series in Malaysia has almost costs around RM800 and 8000 Entertainment Series also costs around RM800~RM900 ....



For someone who wanna try a good performance wireless keyboard, I suggest you to own a Microsoft Wireless Desktop 7000 or a Wireless Keyboard 6000 ..... which gives great performance as normal keyboard but in wireless

Both Wireless Keyboard are in good performance in wireless even we know they are not gaming grade series also these wireless keyboards are in good battery lasting (can lasts around 3 weeks ~ 2 months depends on your daily usage) just without LED Backlight and Macro Buttons


Added on May 9, 2009, 10:20 pm
QUOTE(ayil @ May 9 2009, 08:34 PM)
nice pics! is it better than razer lachesis? interested to get 1..
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err ... if you wanna compare to Lachesis there have each of their advantages

Compare to each of them :

Razer Lachesis
- 4000DPI
- 3G Laser Mouse
- Onboard Memory
- Very large sized mouse, majority of people would prefer it's comfort on RTS game but not-so-comfort on FPS game
- 7 Programmable Buttons (Excluding Left and Right Click)
- Grip Made
- Wired
- Rubberized Mouse Feet

X8 Sidewinder
-4000DPI
- Bluetrack Optical Mouse
- Large Size Mouse
- 5 Programmable Buttons (Excluding Left and Right Click)
- LCD Display Screen
- Instant Macro Record
- Intellipoint Mouse Software
- 3 Dpi button settings
- Wired+Wireless
- Charge and Play
- 3 in 1 Docking Puck
- Instant Gaming File Shortcut Button
- Non-Rubberized Mouse Feet
- Has 2 Spare Mouse Feet

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post May 9 2009, 10:54 PM

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QUOTE(wingster @ May 9 2009, 10:05 PM)
You are wrong bro .......
Function and performance is quite far for the Logitech MX5000 Cordless Desktop compare to 7000 and 8000 Entertainment Series

7000 and 8000 has more stable and high performance 2.4 Ghz Wireless dongle if you dun believe you can go do and compare they are very responsive and good performance as normal laptop keypad.

Likewise, LED Lighting is a great pawn and also the slim design and the rechargeable ability .......

Just the price 7000 Entertainment Series in Malaysia has almost costs around RM800 and 8000 Entertainment Series also costs around RM800~RM900 ....
For someone who wanna try a good performance wireless keyboard, I suggest you to own a Microsoft Wireless Desktop 7000 or a Wireless Keyboard 6000 ..... which gives great performance as normal keyboard but in wireless

Both Wireless Keyboard are in good performance in wireless even we know they are not gaming grade series also these wireless keyboards are in good battery lasting (can lasts around 3 weeks ~ 2 months depends on your daily usage) just without LED Backlight and Macro Buttons
Wireless Keyboard 6000
The thing is I have never experienced any lag with my current logitech mx5000,even during gaming, and the alkaline battery last for abt 4-5 mnths. By the way, i like one of the x6 fratures, where u can interchange the position of keypad to the left side.....

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post May 10 2009, 10:22 PM

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hmm really because I'm have refer most of the review of Logitech MX5000 that it has many lagging issue and the LCD problem .... but those review has been 2 years ago due for the new release at that time

Hmm.... maybe ur's has updated the firmware and also the newer version that I heard fixed


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QUOTE(wingster @ May 10 2009, 10:22 PM)
hmm really because I'm have refer most of the review of Logitech MX5000 that it has many lagging issue and the LCD problem .... but those review has been 2 years ago due for the new release at that time

Hmm.... maybe ur's has updated the firmware and also the newer version that I heard fixed
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U r 100% rite abt that....esp with the released of new logitech setpoint, and the build in compatibility support in windows vista. It was pretty haywire when i first bought the device.... mad.gif
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QUOTE(wingster @ May 9 2009, 10:05 PM)
You are wrong bro .......
Function and performance is quite far for the Logitech MX5000 Cordless Desktop compare to 7000 and 8000 Entertainment Series

7000 and 8000 has more stable and high performance 2.4 Ghz Wireless dongle if you dun believe you can go do and compare they are very responsive and good performance as normal laptop keypad.

Likewise, LED Lighting is a great pawn and also the slim design and the rechargeable ability .......

Just the price 7000 Entertainment Series in Malaysia has almost costs around RM800 and 8000 Entertainment Series also costs around RM800~RM900 ....
For someone who wanna try a good performance wireless keyboard, I suggest you to own a Microsoft Wireless Desktop 7000 or a Wireless Keyboard 6000 ..... which gives great performance as normal keyboard but in wireless

Both Wireless Keyboard are in good performance in wireless even we know they are not gaming grade series also these wireless keyboards are in good battery lasting (can lasts around 3 weeks ~ 2 months depends on your daily usage) just without LED Backlight and Macro Buttons


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err ... if you wanna compare to Lachesis there have each of their advantages

Compare to each of them :

Razer Lachesis   
- 4000DPI
- 3G Laser Mouse
- Onboard Memory
- Very large sized mouse, majority of people would prefer it's comfort on RTS game but not-so-comfort on FPS game
- 7 Programmable Buttons (Excluding Left and Right Click)
- Grip Made
- Wired
- Rubberized Mouse Feet

X8 Sidewinder
-4000DPI
- Bluetrack Optical Mouse
- Large Size Mouse
- 5 Programmable Buttons (Excluding Left and Right Click)
- LCD Display Screen
- Instant Macro Record
- Intellipoint Mouse Software
- 3 Dpi button settings
- Wired+Wireless
- Charge and Play
- 3 in 1 Docking Puck
- Instant Gaming File Shortcut Button
- Non-Rubberized Mouse Feet
- Has 2 Spare Mouse Feet
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I think you're comparing 2 mice of different category and price range too. Mainly, the Lachesis is a WIRED mouse, and the X8 is WIRELESS. Either way, let's hope the Mamba will be here soon for real competition. laugh.gif

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@enigmare, if you don't mind why not pinned up the price that you are selling at the first page?
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QUOTE(eternity4av @ May 11 2009, 11:26 AM)
@enigmare, if you don't mind why not pinned up the price that you are selling at the first page?
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I only have a few for sale, just click on my siggy dude. wink.gif


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