its good btw i always hiit for 25 mins inclusive warm+cool.
what i always do is:
warm 3min 3,4,5kmph, then jog 7min 6,7,8,9,10kmph then hiit 10min 7,9,7,10,7,11,6,12,6,13kmph then cool 5min 7,6,5,4,3kpmh.
just trying others variarion

tengster, i wasn't able to look to others face as i was busy with running but i think nobody cares as long no one hurt. btw, good joke pantun there. make me smile this morn

King 83 - Why not you tell the same thing to technical people like darklight, pizzaboy, John91, JonYeap that their BB knowledge is too technical....just lift heavy and stfu (like what you mentioned it to us).

I find that you are getting silly and annoying by working hard without understanding the science part of it. You think by running hard can burn affective as running at steady state.

Reading and executing are two different items. When one knows more, he/she knows how to execute accordingly.

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Added on April 22, 2009, 9:14 amthat's the whole intention...while we are doing weight loss management or toning muscle, we have life....we have family....we have to live happily....heheh

This post has been edited by tengster: Apr 22 2009, 09:14 AM

You need to develop a thick skin and not let people get to you so much.

life is NEVER an one way street. sometimes, you reach a T-junction whereby one has to make decision based on available information (may not be adequate).....but based on intuition, he/she will still have to make a turn......

wait till you reach a round-about.....


picking up more information along the journey is splendid, you can digest them, filter them and dump it away (if deemed useless)........

Oh noes I didnt realize that it's Day 6 instead of Day 5. Meh. Only 24 days to go!!

Syd G, persevere onwards!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

We can do this!!

I wasn't referring to darklight when i was saying this.
And Pizza, he's more technical when it comes to lifting technique etc...

The Heart Rate Monitor thing was a fine example,
cmon lah... monitoring ur heart rate to every digit?? seriously??
Just run ur hardest and do ur best is what i think. 1 or 2 digits off on the HRM won't matter.
There's a difference in being technical and "too technical".
I'm talking about the latter.

When we talk about HRM reading, we want our training to be in the fat burning zone....normally it fall between 65-75% of maximum heart rate. We also need to calculate one's maximum heart rate based on age and also the current resting heart rate (RHR).

At fat burning zone, it's more effective in burrning fat. Anything above that will not burn fat as effective though it may burn more calories.....

if you dont know, please ask. we will share.
if you know, please share with us, we wanna hear your view.
and please dont ask her to stfu and run harder. It aint make you a better person by doing so.

I hope you see my comment positively and stay focus.
Is that too technical to comprehend?

I agree to a certain extend but a HRM is good because for training, you know when to slow down and stuff. Its just a training tool la..


Chill wei If it works for you, just do what you do Everyone is just sharing opinions.


Btw King, how are you? =P still working out hard?

in less than 7 days
i just manage to lost 2kg

yeah i'm fine...
have to work hard lah, else fat wei.

how's ur training?

A HRM to a runner is like a spotter to a weight lifter - it helps a lot but you can do without it.

Sometimes u hv to maintain at certain % of MHR to train for endurance but most ppl dont know how to agak agak this. What if ur weight plates hv no poundages indication?

I'm good working out harder.."trying" to eat more LOL coz my other friends keep saying i'm eating like a *****


Exactly..well said

i use the KG indication

And you can gain it back in less than 7 days if you want back to eating normally or cheat-eating with fast food and fried food. Whereas those of us who lose weight slowly and exercise at the same time wouldn't have this dramatic effect.

tengster : Err...about the T-shirt, thought I said that it's good enough to be put on a T-shirt? Youcould make money with it.

going to do HIIT later evening... missed yesterday's session due to rain!

myremi- if we cheat eating once a week is it ok? but of course with workout!

Yeah, cheating is essential else u go crazy.
Cheat meal yes, cheat day no.

I think fast food is the best meal for me when I was on diet. Because every time I eat mcD, the next day I will lose at least half kg. But, I don’t think its work for all people because most of people getting fatter if they eat fast food. Maybe my stomach process differently compare to common people.

Btw, normally I do cardio at least 3 times a week plus 1 day for racquet sports.

This post has been edited by POYOZER: Apr 22 2009, 12:27 PM

Same here... i eat McD and KFC when dieting...
I am not sensitive to fats...
But of cos, eat the chicken nia.... dun eat the bun + whipped potato and soft drinks.

Just have to be careful when eating fastfood for dieting. There is a new trend of cheat eats but it's more of moderation eating with strategic timing rather than long-term eating.

What you're doing is promoting the leptin hormone. Unfortunately, it's not that well understood atm so have to be careful of long-term health effects of taking too much fat into the body.

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Added on April 22, 2009, 12:47 pmHmm....if according to Precision Nutrition, it was 10% of your meals every week is cheat meals but in moderation.

My cheat meals is usually either fruit juice or sauteed fruits or one-two spoons of something fried.

But, I made the decision not to have boring meals. So, it's a combination of my Granny's cooking dinner + my lunch meals which I prepare every night in different ways after studying a lot of recipe sites on weight loss, diabetic cooking, etc.

Like today's lunch :
-1 piece of homemade honey wheat bread
-1 piece of pork (1/2 size of my palm) that was cook in Cajun Seasoning. Grilled.
-1/2 cup cherry tomatoes (always sweet) + 1/2 cup cucumber + sprinkling of deep fried shallots (yeah yeah deep fried but only a bit of onions)
-for carbo, i sometimes put couscous, bean+rice mix. Thinking of trying millet + quinoa - getting them this Saturday from the organic shop.

Dinner is usually :
-1 cup green veggie stir fried
-1/2 cup meat or fish - soup, grilled, stir fried, broiled
-2 spoonful of beans + rice mix

Breakfast is one of the options below :
-muesli + low fat milk
-wholemeal bread with cream cheese + tomato + cucumber

I keep a very strict diet of very low carbo else I can't lose weight. It's different from person to person.


This post has been edited by myremi: Apr 22 2009, 12:47 PM