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post Apr 13 2009, 11:41 PM

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this kind of buyer really make me sick...
this kind of buyer dont deserve any deal...
this kind of buyer never stick to his words...
this kind of buyer.. i feel like want to punch his face.. cool2.gif

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post Apr 13 2009, 11:50 PM

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hmmm and he contacted me to buy a couple of TFs. Thanks guys for the heads up. Will definately hold off any transaction with him, at least until he clears EVERYTHING up over here.

edited: pmed him about this thread and asked him to drop by. lets see if he even bothers to clarify things.

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post Apr 13 2009, 11:52 PM

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QUOTE(kerberos09 @ Apr 13 2009, 10:11 PM)
lol... dealt with dis guy before also... never wanna deal with him again ( i heard he got gilfren cun maa) haha~
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QUOTE(sjn hassan @ Apr 13 2009, 10:26 PM)
next time then we deal with his GF  blush.gif
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Deal with whoulove before along with his GF and i have to admit his GF is quite a hottie. he's so damn lucky. well, that's about his GF.

me have no personal vendetta against whoulove. dealt with him like 4 times. haven't heard from him for a long time now.

1st deal :

He bought from me a vintage Alien figure. that time i'm selling it for RM 20. so we exchanged PMs and agreed on RM 15. so i went down to COD with him along with Endless who happened to COD with for loose Titanium Soundwave too.

So i saw him bagaining with Endless as he said the figure was loose and got scratches. then when it comes to me, he inspected the figure and ask for more price reduction until RM 5 as he claimed this item was old and got many scratches and playwear. so we agreed for RM 10. i was quite frustrated that time as i think RM 10 only worth my fuel going there for COD. well, i let it go.

2nd deal :

This time he bought from me 2 vintage Predator figures and 1 alien figure. i'm selling those for RM 15 each. and heck, we nego in PM and agreed upon RM 10 each. so when we met and he inspected the figures, he asked for RM 5 each. owh heck. i felt like i'm very stupid that time but i let those figures to him for RM 25.

3rd deal :

This time is for my Transformers FAB Frenzy. i put it on ebay that time for RM 30. he contacted me and agreed on the price (again? lol) so he wanted me to end the sale on ebay as soon as he bidded the toy. well, that time i was a noob and didn't know i can end it quickly so i only managed to change the end date until left only one day. the problem is, got other people also bid until RM 60 and eventually he won it. so we meet and he asked me to sell it for the initial price which is RM 30. and still asked for me to discount further as it is a loose figure but this time me buat kepala batu. so i sold to him RM 30 since i've agreed to that price too in the 1st place. i'm a man who kept my word, not the kind of guy who changes his like changing a napkin.

4th deal @ final deal :

i'm selling off my Transformers micromasters Rayden. this time, i brought a friend who also a past victim of his scheme. cut story short, as usual, the best part, bargaining process. with the presence of my friend, he couldn't bargained like he always did before probably too shy in front of his victim. plus i'm sticking to the price and be kepala batu. and in the end he couldn't get the discount plus cannot ask for more as this figures in a very perfect condition.

Whoulove@Bryan, i have no personal vendetta towards u. seriously. i enjoy dealing with u. i can give discount but u have to be logical too in asking for discount. RM 5 or RM 10 are still ok but until RM 30 to 50 is way too much already. i've heard a lot about u and i keep on being silent about it. asking for discount after agreeing a price is an unethical way of doing business. i might be able to tolerate it but until i heard from a friend of mine who being cheated by u, i just can't keep quiet anymore. u can be a friend, i'm really sure of that. But in business, u're just creating a mess out of yourself.
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post Apr 13 2009, 11:57 PM

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if not mistaken the victim friend whom kamkam brought to meet saper-ko-cinta (skc) bought this thing from skc without being informed/warned that is a KO, at regular Alternator price.
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QUOTE(jing_kohkoh @ Apr 13 2009, 11:57 PM)
if not mistaken the victim friend whom kamkam brought to meet saper-ko-cinta (skc) bought this thing from skc without being informed/warned that is a KO, at regular Alternator price.
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yup. it was William7. i can tolerate if he asked for discount but not cheat. this is too much already.
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post Apr 14 2009, 06:18 AM

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sighh~

same tactics everytime???

already agree on price before COD ...
then on COD day, want to nego some more????
seriously cheapskate and ANNOYING!!
i think if this ever happened again wit other buyer, bugging you to give more discount after agreeing on a price before...
just left the scene immediately, no need to layan such bargaining ... im sure somebody else will be interested to buy our stuff ...

i agree wit you guys comments on his stuff... if it our stuff, always want cheap2...
but if it his stuff, will give so many reasons why he cant nego lower... bought expensive laa.. cant get back modal laa...
i still remember i want his revoltech before, just nego a few bucks pun also cannot... doh.gif
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He logged in last night BUT don't dare to come & explain? WTFish!?????

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Giler penakut mamat ni,
rasa nk belasah je kalau aku jumpa personally
kamkam, mamat ni bleh makan tak? (kalau aku sorang la)
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post Apr 14 2009, 08:42 AM

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QUOTE(madstone @ Apr 14 2009, 08:05 AM)
He logged in last night BUT don't dare to come & explain? WTFish!?????

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Giler penakut mamat ni,
rasa nk belasah je kalau aku jumpa personally
kamkam, mamat ni bleh makan tak? (kalau aku sorang la)
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hehehe.... abg maddie sgt garang laa... hehehe... WTFish??? tongue.gif

met him before... around 5'5 to 5'6 only.. not so tall ... quite pleasant looking dude... he is friendly i must say, but maybe because of the 'niat' ..
from his baby face look, maybe around 24-26 years old ... fluent in BM as well, no chinese slang... owhh.. he has gorgeous gf? i hope he will take care of her well ... what if she knew his bf doing something like this... will be a very bad rapport for him later..
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Just imagine, kalau org patahkan TF kita depan mata pastu taknak bayar gantirugi? WT Fish!

hamsterz punya DVD OP dah patah disebabkan mamat ni
kalau aku, mmg kat situ jugak aku patahkan lengan dia balik vmad.gif
mcm mana tank minyak kat paha OP dia bleh patahkan
benda tu kan tekan je? Ke dia tekan dgn kaki?
slow-slow la tekan

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QUOTE(madstone @ Apr 14 2009, 08:55 AM)
Just imagine, kalau org patahkan TF kita depan mata pastu taknak bayar gantirugi? WT Fish!

hamsterz punya DVD OP dah patah disebabkan mamat ni
kalau aku, mmg kat situ jugak aku patahkan lengan dia balik vmad.gif
mcm mana tank minyak kat paha OP dia bleh patahkan
benda tu kan tekan je? Ke dia tekan dgn kaki?
slow-slow la tekan
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yup.. if it's obviously he broke the stuff in front of our eyes.. pastu dont want to take the responsibility, sape2 pun berbulu...
i hope he will pay the full amount to hamster ... be a man, take the responsibility ...
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post Apr 14 2009, 09:23 AM

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Dear hamster / members

1st of all thanks for smsing me and inform me about this dispute thread tat u have kindly created.


Oh My God bro…. you are really good at acting and I really have to salute u and give all my credits for u !! bro , if u dare and SWEAR ( sumpah in the name of god ) that all the story u were telling is true , then pls do it, I really wanna see what kind of person you are.


First of all ( before my long winded story of my PART , its up to u all who to listen )

Yes , I agree on 1st transaction ( devastator ) that :

-we agreed on rm100 and yes I paid you rm80 and to pay the balance once the manuals posted to me !

BUT u did not tell the other part of stories and u created the other way around.. or can I say how good u r at acting infront of me ! or infront of lyn ?

I remember clearly that when I told u can nego and can I see the devastator before I commit u say its FINE , can show and no problem blabla…. And the price at rm100 I also DID NOT FORCE you or HARD BEG or HARD bargain, and you say ok la bro its fine ill give you rm100 due to because this la and that… and your KIND enough to give me rm100, and to be frank with you , you are really GREAT actor , you showed how frenly you are and nice you are and how chin chai you are( before and after the deal ) ,… but now in the end you f@#* and STAB me at the back like this ? seriously I never even thought of this !

And u blame me for pushing yr price ? DUDE , if you have clearly state in yr description that yr collections are displayed and badly DUSTY , then ill know the initial condition and wont neg with u abit. And yr joints are slightly loose also , did u put that in yr posting ??? and u r blaming me back ? ( and on the event of our trade , u r so OK and nicely explaining and ok with me and understand what I felt …so on ,.. and now u push all the blame on me ??? )

I treat u as a fren and u even treat me as fren/ collector frens members…etc like what you say and now u turn behind me and say all this ?

And did u REMEMBER bro , you clearly said that if I take together with the MP OP ( which u brought together with yr devs ) u said u will give me cheaper price for the Devs at about rm80 or 90 ( I cant rmbr which price ) , BUT im very sure you say u will , if u really dare to say SUMPAH SWEAR that you never say this , then I really have to pray you , and thanks to Allah that he shows how great you are being a so called muslim ! ( sorry all , not trying to involve any religion issues here , but our fren here did mentioned to me before “ I tengok you pun muslim islam jugak, I tengok mum u islam tudung , jadi I pun tak nak la nak blame you…and blabla …” ( some sort like that, cant rmbr the actual phrase ) )

So , the rm20 supposingly which you voluntarily give me offer to discount out if I buy OP and you blame me for not returning your rm20 ??? and you are the ones that doesn’t want to sell yr OP and you put the blame on me ???? WTF ?



You are just taking this opportunity ( since I have another UNCORRECT dispute on me ) and tried to hentam me again . so to jeopardize or spoilt my name ?! why must do that bro ? u cud have the courtesy to give me a call and discuss with me first . did u even have the courtesy to even call me and ask me or talk to me / discuss first ???

What I can only see is that im the only one that keep trying to CALL YOU and discuss with u . But u keep ignoring me and pretend dono . and now u turn the story up side down ???


Bro Wan / Hamsterz , and fellow members :

Pls help to be judge here,

Wan, if u r gentleman enuff , why don let us arrange a time to meet up TOGETHER with 1 ( or 2 or a few ) of the participate and senior member of LYN ( preferably that has made a reply and point of view on this thread ) , and discuss this like a man/gentleman ??? lets face to face and talk and discuss things out and you can voice out and tell me infront of the senior member and I can talk and tell my view , let them be the one middle person and judge for this .. since u sound more louder in the topic than in the real life ?

I feel that if you are innocent / victim and want to clarify further , why must u afraid to meet up just for a cup of tea discussion ? plus all of us are staying in KL , we can easily meetup and talk and sort this things out ! I understand you might be VERY BUSY with work , but so do I , but yet if I can try to fork abit time out just to clarify this matter and to make u FEEL BETTER , why not ? n I believe those kind bros/members wud b kind enuff to spare sometime just to meet us up for a drink / chit chat and talk / discuss or be a middle person , IN THE END of the meetups , I don even mind to treat all frens/bros teh-tarik , no problem …

So are you comfortable in arranging this ? wats the point in us keep pointing you are wrong and im am right ( vice-versa ) and keep continuing this thread ? to be frank with u , I really do not have time to keep monitor and read thread topic and keep posting my story reply( plus I don think members wud wan me to keep paste my long story here )

Is it so hard ?


Added on April 14, 2009, 9:24 am2nd issue on MP OP :

The story from my part .

That day we met up at Jaya 33 , and cod there. After a short happy FRENLY chat ( so CALLED frenly , now that I know ) , we proceed to our deal , which is on the MP OP .

Like usual , when buying such expensive collection , ill check and make sure everythings fine , and its 2nd hand loose unit, so isn’t it my right to check it ? while transforming, suddenly the leg button ( small part – THE TANK beside, wher u press the tank to allow the leg to push in and out to transform alt mode ) broken , which I DIDN’T APPLY hard force on it ! and to highlight I have 2 MP01 myself, and I know how the transformation are and im pretty confident and well with playing / transform it. AND especially masterpiece I will take very precaution while handling it !

Then the tank broken , and making the leg doesn’t have a clip to make sure the leg hangs on there . so the worst scenario is here ! he was shocked and I was totally shocked and surprise and worst still devastated by the incident. For yr info hamster , I myself felt HEART BROKEN to see that fig broken even though it’s a small part! U do not know how a realy pure collector feels !

And then we end up , having to discuss what we are suppose to do on this deal. Of coz usually if asked any one the one that broken it shud pay ( which initially I did not agree,; 290309 to pay , but later I wanting to pay BUT YOU hamster DON’T WANT !!!, ; 11/04/09 , and now you accuse me and blame me for what your action ????? )



You claimed :

When the thing happen
1) He did not want to buy
2) He did not want to pay for damages
3) He did not want to help to search for parts



Fu yoh bro , u seriously really GREAT la bro !!! again , if you DARE to SWEAR what u said above is true !

1) I do not want to buy it ??? I WANTED TO BUY IT but of coz not at the price that you wanted . pls make things clear ! do you expect me to pay full payment for a damage item ??? will u be so stupid to do that ?

2) I do not want to pay for damages ??? DUDE , I even sat down with you and try to comfort the situation and even offer help to solve this problem and even find plenty of solutions to what have happen during the deal and yet u say like tat ???? I even offered many type of solutions and we did not come to agree one ! and again u blame me ?

3) I DID NOT WANT TO HELP SEARCH FOR PARTS ??? wow u really great la bro… seriously, tats y I cakap u memang HEBAT benar bro… I AM THE ONE THAT OFFERED AND SUGGESTED THAT MAYBE WE TRY TO SEARCH FROM EBAY US / INTERNATIONAL FOR THE SMALL BROKEN PARTS AND REPLACE IT , AND YET U ACCUSE ME NOT TRYING TO HELP YOU ????WE EVEN SAY THAT MAYBE FROM THE PARTS THAT WE BUY WE CUD SPLIT HALF HALF YOU AGREEED ! but then we concluded that it wud take us ages and time to get the actual leg part that we want, and by time of postage from intenational …etc will not worth …. And now u say all this , seriously memang sakit hati benar and I really shock of my life u say all this la bro….


Bro kalau hang berani , mari la kita SUMPAH la, kalau ape u cakap semua tu benar and not against me , and if my part of story is not partly correct and all this is not misunderstanding , marilah kita sumpah, kalau you betul , mak atau bapak I , atau I sendiri akan accident mati , BUT if kalau u salah , mak bapak u and u akan aksiden mati , berani ???!!!


Fellow members + bro wan,

Im really sorry if I made all those sumpah statements, but putting on my position and wat explained to ppl its really another worst thing / dispute on me, this is really like a knife poking thru my heart and flesh !


Plss if there is any one out there / moderator / senior member which really can do give me some courtesy the benefit of doubt , lets all meet up and talk out and you all JUDGE who is right or wrong ! . I am not saying wan ( hamzsters ) is wrong and I am right, nevertheless, im wont agree and say im totally right and his wrong . but more on to clear this issue and have a better understanding… and u all judge..

Instead of keep continuing typing this and that , claiming this and that…. This topic thread will not end ! and frankly I wont have time to attend / reply on this forum topic . ( as you can see from my profile , I joined so far I got only very little post , coz I don chat / talk in forum , most of the time I read ppls discussion and buy/sell things that’s all , BUT that doesn’t mean that with a low post count – im a total beginner / con man / bad attitude person ! , atleast I hope all cud give me a benefit of doubts ! )


Last but not least ,

I really cant continue checking thread dispute and spend time replying, my work commitments doesn’t allow me to do so. I am not a clerk or office boy which stays in front of the computer 24x7 . THEN WHEN I DON’T REPLY , im being blame / accuse that im a conman/ cheater that I am afraid to reply or justify or to prove my innocency ! but hey… I cant possibly coz of this stup accuse affect my career right ?


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QUOTE(sjn hassan @ Apr 13 2009, 11:41 PM)
aiseh..patut ko ajak Azrin tu pegi COD ngan mamat tu  tongue.gif

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bro... about the gas tank part, what he did was he put too much strength when inserting back the leg part... then suddenly prak!! adeehhhh..

QUOTE(Apis_LuaLua @ Apr 13 2009, 11:41 PM)
this kind of buyer really make me sick...
this kind of buyer dont deserve any deal...
this kind of buyer never stick to his words...
this kind of buyer.. i feel like want to punch his face..  cool2.gif
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true2... so next time beware of this type of forumer... bahaya dude

QUOTE(dlight @ Apr 13 2009, 11:50 PM)
hmmm and he contacted me to buy a couple of TFs. Thanks guys for the heads up. Will definately hold off any transaction with him, at least until he clears EVERYTHING up over here.

edited: pmed him about this thread and asked him to drop by. lets see if he even bothers to clarify things.
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yupz... just like u.. im still waiting for his response...

QUOTE(kamkamparadise @ Apr 13 2009, 11:52 PM)
Deal with whoulove before along with his GF and i have to admit his GF is quite a hottie. he's so damn lucky. well, that's about his GF.

me have no personal vendetta against whoulove. dealt with him like 4 times. haven't heard from him for a long time now.

1st deal :

He bought from me a vintage Alien figure. that time i'm selling it for RM 20. so we exchanged PMs and agreed on RM 15. so i went down to COD with him along with Endless who happened to COD with for loose Titanium Soundwave too.

So i saw him bagaining with Endless as he said the figure was loose and got scratches. then when it comes to me, he inspected the figure and ask for more price reduction until RM 5 as he claimed this item was old and got many scratches and playwear. so we agreed for RM 10. i was quite frustrated that time as i think RM 10 only worth my fuel going there for COD. well, i let it go.

2nd deal :

This time he bought from me 2 vintage Predator figures and 1 alien figure. i'm selling those for RM 15 each. and heck, we nego in PM and agreed upon RM 10 each. so when we met and he inspected the figures, he asked for RM 5 each. owh heck. i felt like i'm very stupid that time but i let those figures to him for RM 25.

3rd deal :

This time is for my Transformers FAB Frenzy. i put it on ebay that time for RM 30. he contacted me and agreed on the price (again? lol) so he wanted me to end the sale on ebay as soon as he bidded the toy. well, that time i was a noob and didn't know i can end it quickly so i only managed to change the end date until left only one day. the problem is, got other people also bid until RM 60 and eventually he won it. so we meet and he asked me to sell it for the initial price which is RM 30. and still asked for me to discount further as it is a loose figure but this time me buat kepala batu. so i sold to him RM 30 since i've agreed to that price too in the 1st place. i'm a man who kept my word, not the kind of guy who changes his like changing a napkin.

4th deal @ final deal :

i'm selling off my Transformers micromasters Rayden. this time, i brought a friend who also a past victim of his scheme. cut story short, as usual, the best part, bargaining process. with the presence of my friend, he couldn't bargained like he always did before probably too shy in front of his victim. plus i'm sticking to the price and be kepala batu. and in the end he couldn't get the discount plus cannot ask for more as this figures in a very perfect condition.

Whoulove@Bryan, i have no personal vendetta towards u. seriously. i enjoy dealing with u. i can give discount but u have to be logical too in asking for discount. RM 5 or RM 10 are still ok but until RM 30 to 50 is way too much already. i've heard a lot about u and i keep on being silent about it. asking for discount after agreeing a price is an unethical way of doing business. i might be able to tolerate it but until i heard from a friend of mine who being cheated by u, i just can't keep quiet anymore. u can be a friend, i'm really sure of that. But in business, u're just creating a mess out of yourself.
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wahhhh confirm arr chick dia memang chiun.. hehe... pandai gak dia bawak awek dia yang cun melecun tuh masa COD... yelah... dah tentu kalau dia nego dengan seller.. the seller must say no... coz... got beautiful maiden infront of him... hehe

but as kamkam mention as a friend he quite a ok person... but when business..... aiyoo kepala pon boleh pecah woooo

QUOTE(jing_kohkoh @ Apr 13 2009, 11:57 PM)
if not mistaken the victim friend whom kamkam brought to meet saper-ko-cinta (skc) bought this thing from skc without being informed/warned that is a KO, at regular Alternator price.
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saper-ko-cinta, the TF circle is very small, news spreads very rapidly.
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Adeeehhh sedihnyer beli mahal tapi dapat KO version....

QUOTE(kamkamparadise @ Apr 14 2009, 12:00 AM)
yup. it was William7. i can tolerate if he asked for discount but not cheat. this is too much already.
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la William7 ke yang kena tipu??? wooww dasat tol mamat ni.

QUOTE(orestes @ Apr 14 2009, 06:18 AM)
sighh~

same tactics everytime???

already agree on price before COD ...
then on COD day, want to nego some more????
seriously cheapskate and ANNOYING!!
i think if this ever happened again wit other buyer, bugging you to give more discount after agreeing on a price before...
just left the scene immediately, no need to layan such bargaining ... im sure somebody else will be interested to buy our stuff ...

i agree wit you guys comments on his stuff... if it our stuff, always want cheap2...
but if it his stuff, will give so many reasons why he cant nego lower... bought expensive laa.. cant get back modal laa...
i still remember i want his revoltech before, just nego a few bucks pun also cannot...  doh.gif
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as u can see... i think almost all the people who commented about brian tells the same story especially while dealing with him...

QUOTE(madstone @ Apr 14 2009, 08:05 AM)
He logged in last night BUT don't dare to come & explain? WTFish!?????

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Giler penakut mamat ni,
rasa nk belasah je kalau aku jumpa personally
kamkam, mamat ni bleh makan tak? (kalau aku sorang la)
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hehehe... wah madstone already heated up on the issue...

QUOTE(orestes @ Apr 14 2009, 08:42 AM)
hehehe.... abg maddie sgt garang laa... hehehe... WTFish??? tongue.gif

met him before... around 5'5 to 5'6 only.. not so tall ... quite pleasant looking dude... he is friendly i must say, but maybe because of the 'niat' ..
from his baby face look, maybe around 24-26 years old ... fluent in BM as well, no chinese slang... owhh.. he has gorgeous gf? i hope he will take care of her well ... what if she knew his bf doing something like this... will be a very bad rapport for him later..
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yup true... he is just around that height... 27 years of age.. yup kalau aku jadi aweks dia pon aku malu beb!!

QUOTE(madstone @ Apr 14 2009, 08:55 AM)
Just imagine, kalau org patahkan TF kita depan mata pastu taknak bayar gantirugi? WT Fish!

hamsterz punya DVD OP dah patah disebabkan mamat ni
kalau aku, mmg kat situ jugak aku patahkan lengan dia balik vmad.gif
mcm mana tank minyak kat paha OP dia bleh patahkan
benda tu kan tekan je? Ke dia tekan dgn kaki?
slow-slow la tekan
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hehe... ganas beb....

QUOTE(orestes @ Apr 14 2009, 09:05 AM)
yup.. if it's obviously he broke the stuff in front of our eyes.. pastu dont want to take the responsibility, sape2 pun berbulu...
i hope he will pay the full amount to hamster ... be a man, take the responsibility ...
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yups true bro.. biasanya... kalau dah patahkan barang orang... ganti la balik... kan kan kan
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whoulove
I've played with hamsterz DVD OP once & it still in good shape, no broken parts la bro
still tight, that oil tank pun still tight, mana ada patah?
lagi mau kencing ka?

One more, loose joint to normal laaa
even takara version got more loose joint than hasbro 1
mana ada TF yg tak losse joint? mesti ada punya
aiyaaaaaaaa!
ko ni berapa lama dah collect TF? hmm.gif

FOR example,
aku ada beli 2 TFTM Ironhide takara version
the 1st one i bought, got so many loose joints, tak kisah la, toys, loose joints tu biasa
the new 1 i bought yesterday from putu_mayam, got NO losse joints, sohowleh?

whoulove
ko dah agreed harga tu dlm PM kan?
bukan sorang, ramai, orsetes, kamkam, seaedge & many more
but when come to COD, ko nego kaw2 plak mintak discount lagi?
stick to your agreed price la bro
lagi mau tipu ka?

whoulove,
did you realize that your link to lelong's feedback is invalid/broken link?
Mau kencing ka???


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post Apr 14 2009, 09:48 AM

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I log on yesterday and did not post reply . coz I was preparing this long explanations … and plus with my work.. I had to also stayed back quite late just to make this thing clear… not like what madstone claim that I don have the guts to explain ! y do u have such points to me ?


After so many reply one short , now finally I really realise maybe u all are true … that I was wrong…

BUT if you ask me about hamsters case I cant admit I was fully to be blame !

At this stage , what I can do is to apologize and say SORRY if I have hurt or make any one Tu L4n from this forum !

Fellow members ,

Let me just kindly ask u all 1 simple question , just answer this not thinking to the next issue.

“is it wrong that I ask for discounts ? bargaining process in a trade / deal is it a crime ?? like what you all had mentioned and said like im a real criminal ?”


Now after so long and now only u all voice out all yr unhappiness !?? y after so long ?

Before meeting up , you guys did not mentioned strictly firm and NO DISCOUNTS, shud I be fully blame for it ? the best part is … to act as a nice person u all showed good and nice and frenly attitude , and never even bother or say all this things to me.

Come on guys , I never even forced u all to give me a discounts, im just asking for it nicely and frenly. Of coz I really hope I cud get that discounts. But I have know that it hurts u all then I wouldn’t have done it . I did not do it intentionally .

I would like to suggest something , this is good for every one , maybe u guys could give me a suggestion/ ideas as well :

1) would be very happy to arrange a meet up with all of the involved parties ( also those not involved also fine ) , to just come out meet up , treat it as a gathering. Express to me and fire out all yr ammos… I would gladly listen and admit wrong , and as well explained abit just to make things clear. With that also, I don mind to treat everyone yam cha ( pls don’t get me wrong , my intention is not BUYING you all from just a cup of tea ) this is just to make things clear, and lets be fren fren and to know all my mistakes and turn out for me to better up myself to be a better person ( pls understand that , ppl tend to make mistake and do not know that they have made mistake until/and when they made it , when damage done )

with that also , I will return / refund what ever money I owe .

2) another way is … if you guys all of u feels that im really too much and have CON a lot ppls money n felt that I should not be in this forum, and after all the sincere apologise that I made cant be accepted by this community then by all means I think you guys shud ask mod to bann me. ( don get me wrong , not trying to be Lan Si somemore , but more on, if really 1 made mistake and cannot be forgive and still being criticize like that then… its really no point. , I know my heart I never tried to cheat any1s money )


3) or if u guys have any better plans / ideas so that this misunderstand / accusation / unhappiness among all members , pls voice it out a good way so that every one has a win – win situation for all…


last but not least I really wud like to say :

do not judge a book by its cover…. Maybe I looked really irritating …etc . but deep in the fact , I never had the INTENTION to do that to hurt anybodys feelings. I have done it without noticing it. And shall I not be forgive for this … then I dono what to say



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post Apr 14 2009, 09:53 AM

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At last reply gak mamat ni... pendekkan cete bila aku baca aku cam nak tergelak... beb... kalau kalau part bercerita / mengarang wa mengaku lu memang mantap... oklah... ni reply aku....

1) sal price devastator tu... kalau lu boleh paham bm... wa cakap rm 100.. ko bayar rm80.. so ko still hutang aku lagi rm20...
2) sal OP tu... lu nak cete apapon lu cete la... papepon mende dah patah... sungguhpon ko nak bayar.... ko cakap... offer yg paling tinggi pon.. ko cakap tak cecah pon harga aku nak offer OP tu,...
3) pastu bro... yang lu nak sumpah2 buat ape... kalau cakap2 pon tak guna sebab ape2pon ape yang dah belaku tuhan je tau..
4) kalau lu nak cakap wa pelakon... hehe.. cakap arr bro... basically ape yang aku type sebab aku dah cam tak leh blah beb...
5) kalau ko ade baca comment dak2 ni... just amik pengajaran jelah k...
6) and to sum up... kalau ko leh membaca... aku buat thread ni bukan untuk condem ko... but to simply remind people about people like u...

Salam
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QUOTE(madstone @ Apr 14 2009, 09:37 AM)
whoulove
I've played with hamsterz DVD OP once & it still in good shape, no broken parts la bro
still tight, that oil tank pun still tight, mana ada patah?
lagi mau kencing ka?

One more, loose joint to normal laaa
even takara version got more loose joint than hasbro 1
mana ada TF yg tak losse joint? mesti ada punya
aiyaaaaaaaa!
ko ni berapa lama dah collect TF?  hmm.gif

FOR example,
aku ada beli 2 TFTM Ironhide takara version
the 1st one i bought, got so many loose joints, tak kisah la, toys, loose joints tu biasa
the new 1 i bought yesterday from putu_mayam, got NO losse joints, sohowleh?

whoulove
ko dah agreed harga tu dlm PM kan?
bukan sorang, ramai, orsetes, kamkam, seaedge & many more
but when come to COD, ko nego kaw2 plak mintak discount lagi?
stick to your agreed price la bro
lagi mau tipu ka?

whoulove,
did you realize that your link to lelong's feedback is invalid/broken link?
Mau kencing ka???

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kawan ,

tak de kencing , try this link :

http://members.lelong.com.my/Auc/Feedback/...erID=whoulove@1


bro ,

i tak penah have the intention to KENCING ppl like what you say.


Hamster MP OP , he told me himself that he did not know the condition , he himself never transform it even after he bought it. After he bought it , he just put on display. Kawan , if u r me , n u really did not apply hard force and the thing broke just like that what will u do ??? tell me honestly deep from yr heart ( don coz of this issue u say definitely u will PAY ) ….

After that I even keep offer hamster and talk nicely kindly that I want to pay for it and buy it . coz the ebayer that wants to buy it DOES NOT MIND THE condition of the broken leg part. Even I have told him many and many times , but he insist he wants it . even I offer to refund the money to him , he doesn’t want it and prefer to get the item. Despite I have told him its broken and I would rather not sell him. But coz he likes the item so much he wants it.

I nicely and kindly kept smsin/calling hamster trying to offer to solve this issue and wanting to responsible buy it ( did I hamster ? ) , but maybe due to his busy work schedule he seems doesn’t want to reply or entertain me. Or maybe he ad fed up with me. But I did try to solve this thing out and to have a win win situation for all of us ( hamster , the buyer and me )


Madstone ,

Jangan la sbb now every one hentam me and u taking this opportunity and tenga marah2 u also hentam me like dono tail dono head .

Come on bro , if buyer cud have told me that its is displayed and in dusty conditions then I will know and easy to judge. Don la say that its normal to have dust on fig ….blabla…my fig has no dust at all ( coz I kept it in a close glass cabinet ) , it wud b much easier for me to judge if buyer has informed the condition properly. And now u all blame me ?

Madstone ,

M not trying to show off , but pls all do respect don la talk so big till u say that how long u have collected tf … and trying to show how good u r in tf. Maybe u r indeed sifu or otai in tf . MAYBE u r not,. And maybe my collections any time over yrs …. Well im not trying to compare who have a bigger nicer collections. Just felt offended when u asking that how long I have been collecting tf sarcasticly






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post Apr 14 2009, 10:02 AM

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my suggestion to whoulove...

- pay compensation to hamster for his damage op... or you buy from him at 1st agreed price before you both cod that day ...
- settle the rm20 balance to him as well

those are the only point hamster wanted to let us know of his case anyway... we all just shared what we felt because we dealt wit you before ... and by surprise, we all had the same story about you... yes, you have to be ethical when dealing ... agreed price before cod, so pls dont nego some more on cod day... annoying laa dude ... what do you want us to do??? have you to sign up agreement for the price before cod so that you wont ask for more discount???

we all fellow tf collectors ... lets not stain this hobby wit the attitude ... from us you want cheap2 stuff.. but your stuff, cant be nego .. wtfish!

wit this thread only, you hav gain bad rapport...
so lets forgive and forget, and hope you settle the damage wit hamster ... case wil closed definitely..
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whoulove

Stick to your agreed price la
Once ko dah agreed, nak nego apa kejadahnya lagi?
Ko dah agreed dlm PM, so, nak nego buat apa?

Bila ko jual brg, harga ko langsung tak boleh nego plak? RM10 pun takleh kurang, w t fish????
nampak tak????

boleh kaya ke ko buat mcm ni?
boleh pegi Haji atau Umrah ke ko buat mcm ni?
Boleh kaya ke bro?

ko ni jenis manusia mcm mana?
dah patahkan org punya DVD OP, lagi takmau mengaku?
Lagi nak kelentong, nak menipu?
Aiyaaaaaaaaaa bro, admit laaaa

For me,
NICE TO SEE, NICE TO HOLD, ONCE BROKEN, CONSIDER SOLD

aku rasa ko kena bayar kerugian hamsterz if you are a true collector, kalau betul la doh.gif shakehead.gif
dah la mamat tu takleh jual dah DVD OP dia, hati sedih kena simpan broken DVD OP
kalau ko kena mcm mana? Apa perasaan ko kalau org patahkan MP01 ko tapi takmo bayar ganti rugi?
APA PERASAAN KO?

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QUOTE(whoulove @ Apr 14 2009, 10:00 AM)
kawan ,
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Aku tanya how long have u been collecting TF coz from the way i see it, ko ni mcm tak tahu sgt pasal toys
taknak loose joint, toksah beli toys, beli kereta terus
toy kalau tak loose ni, jgn tipu laaa
mesti ada loose joint punya
how come, you as a otai in TF collections didn't know about this?
of course i have doubt about u & your so called collections

Aku bukan otai TF, aku noobies, collections aku tak byk mcm collections ko tapi be a man la, be a gentleman
bila aku dah commit harga ni, aku byr terus takde banyak2 songeh atau nak nego apa-apa
RM100, aku byr RM100, RM1040, aku bayar RM1040 drool.gif
bila dah buat salah, commit, admit & pay for it
like i said, nice 2 see, nice 2 hold, once broken consider sold, k?

mcm habuk tu semua, ko tak leh buang ke? Ko takleh lap ke?
dlm berniaga ni kena la ada give & take sikit
kalau ko nak perfect toy with no loose joints, no dust what so ever, BUY A NEW ONE LA!!! doh.gif doh.gif
new one pun didn't promise you they don't have loose joints bro!

nak perfect toy, beli baru, cari dlm eBay, lelong, mudah etc etc



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post Apr 14 2009, 10:16 AM

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loose joints laa... berhabuk laa... it's only because of 1 thing on his mind at the very beginning...
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