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hamsterz
post Apr 13 2009, 04:41 PM, updated 17y ago

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Dear LYN Forumers.. if u have time come and read this...

Forumer you are complaining against: Brian
Dispute Reported case against him by previous lyn forumer: http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=24832613
Telephone No: 0133999939; 0133333666; 0173957888;

Item being sold/bought: devastator & Dvd OP (NOT SOLD)

Original thread link: http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=23470087

Date of transaction: March 14 and 29

Need advice on this forumer (Brian)...

OK here's the thing, I have recently deal with this forumer (Brian). Deal with him twice (both my mistake) in two different location.

The first Deal (Devastator)
Date of transaction: March 14-15 (not that sure but around that 2 days la)
Place: In front of Bank in front of IOI Puchong
Deal with him via lyn.. nego punya nego agreed to deal on rm120.
The day we met he negotiated and somehow we got to an agreement of rm100 due to he complain yang my devastator berabuklah, thisla that la... etc.
BUT that day I left the instructions behind so he gave me rm80, and did mention that he will bank in rm20 to my maybank account.
Still waiting for the rm20 to be in my maybank account but still not in yet.

Send SMS but still waiting for him to reply.....

The 2nd Deal (DVD OP)
Date of transaction: March 29
DVD OP Picture: http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/6922/01042009132.jpg
Venue: PJ SS14 - A shopping complex with GYM in front of McDonald's

My second mistake was dealing with the same person...
Ok this time, he did not manage to buy the DVD OP BUT he "patahkan" or in simple words he broke the right leg of the DVD OP.
This is how the incident happen.
At first macam orang lain... kalau nak beli dia cakap dia nak test dulu. Reason dia cakap dia nak test whether the thing is in good condition.
So I let him try, try punya try.... PRAK.. he broke the OP.

When the thing happen
1) He did not want to buy
2) He did not want to pay for damages
3) He did not want to help to search for parts

Solution dia....
1) Dia nak tukar with another item (with conditions)
2) Sell to him the OP at less than rm150 - due to the thing is already faulty.
3) Give him the OP so that he can help to sell. Then revenue will be shared.

At the same time, dia dah DEAL dengan satu buyer via Ebay (dia cakap).
1) So, as u know that now the OP has already become a CACAT OP.
2) And the best thing about this deal is that the buyer has already paid for the item and awaiting for the item to be delivered.
3) He contacted the buyer and request for refund BUT the buyer doesn't want to!!
4) The buyer bengang and ask for pictures (as proof)
5) So later.. he contacted me and ask for pictures to help him solve his case...
6) I posted the pic... and showed the defact/tempat patah.
7) Dia tak puas hati... and ask me to lepak with him and discuss on how to help him to solve his problem!!

So fellow forumers... what do u think if u kena the same thing???

For me...
1) aku dah kena tiau... 2 kali plak tu...
2) tension
3) lagi tension sebab dah la rugi, OP patah, duit tak dapat, pastuh dia asyik sms/call sebab nak suruh aku settlekan prob dia!!

Want PROOF???... (Will attach k...)

Hope to get feedback...

This post has been edited by hamsterz: Apr 13 2009, 05:19 PM
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post Apr 13 2009, 04:52 PM

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So,do u want the buyer to refund u?The 1st mistake is u deal with the same person.U know that the person bad attitude coz not refund the remaining balance.I think he want to take advantage against u.
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post Apr 13 2009, 04:58 PM

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QUOTE(apis @ Apr 13 2009, 04:52 PM)
So,do u want the buyer to refund u?The 1st mistake is u deal with the same person.U know that  the person bad attitude coz not refund the remaining balance.I think he want to take advantage against u.
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Yup as i did mention before... it was a mistake at the first place.. when dealing with him....
2nd.. i did not check his history...
3rd... this thread is created due to i had enough of his actions...


P/S - Forgot to add that I have already posted the user guide.

This post has been edited by hamsterz: Apr 13 2009, 05:02 PM
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post Apr 13 2009, 05:04 PM

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PM him and ask him to come here to explain (If he still got pride la & still want to lie) laugh.gif
plus SMS him about this thread

TS, please PM MOD about this
just ask for dispute tag for this fella from MOD nod.gif
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post Apr 13 2009, 05:18 PM

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yes, pm whoulove to come and explain his side of story. but i do afraid his longwinded explaination like the previous case with shaun. reserve comment until both side story is heard.
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post Apr 13 2009, 05:26 PM

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QUOTE(Seaedge @ Apr 13 2009, 05:18 PM)
yes, pm whoulove to come and explain his side of story. but i do afraid his longwinded explaination like the previous case with shaun. reserve comment until both side story is heard.
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yup.. already did both pm/sms him about the thread.

Will wait for his reply on this matter...
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post Apr 13 2009, 07:40 PM

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Bro and any other toys buyer / seller..

when COD, the best way is ;

1. buyer check the condition
2. ask the seller to transform..don't tell me u don't know how to transform the toys if u really a collector. Don't give an excuse you are not a collector if u willing to pay for more than RM300 just for a toys rclxub.gif
3. after it has been transform, buyer need to check back the condition. becoz sometime the broken / repaired parts are visible in robot / alternate mode
4. buyer satisfied with the condition (as described before COD)..pay and CHOw sweat.gif

TS..dah nasib Bro..patutnya kalau ko sendirik yg transform takkan jadik camni kan?

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post Apr 13 2009, 08:13 PM

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lucky me nearly dealt with him.. shakehead.gif
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post Apr 13 2009, 08:54 PM

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post Apr 13 2009, 09:17 PM

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QUOTE(richard0304 @ Apr 13 2009, 08:13 PM)
lucky me nearly dealt with him..  shakehead.gif
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phew... almost dealt with him.... sweat.gif
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post Apr 13 2009, 09:51 PM

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this is my story..i deal with him before..
i met him few times..and i finally kno him
after all i heard alot of collector said that he is the one who bought or scalped from alot of collector item and then play until rosak after that he try to con ppl and sell it

situation 1
he buy bumble bee hasbro for rm 50? drool.gif because its was close fren ok ok..after that go home he complain..the tf is not misb after all he was open n played with it..he ask for refund because he claim that misb is tampal balik wan..although it is misb bcz i was ther with him...

situation 2
my bad luck..in ebay i sold to him my limited edition megatron rm 150
we agree the item is sold at that price..he nego nego say habuk la..box dent this and tht in the rm 110..

and i saw back his thread..all this while we scalp alot of tf in tru holding 2-3 box...with my frens frm hasbro help now he is selling with 10%extra price..
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QUOTE(myboo_1988 @ Apr 13 2009, 09:51 PM)
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and i saw back his thread..all this while we scalp alot of tf in tru holding 2-3 box...with my frens frm hasbro help now he is selling with 10%extra price..
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I noticed that too. I will be not surprised if there r more than 10 victims in this thread.
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TS,
Please ask MOD to keep their eyes on this matter
He's done lot of dealing here already & some of them came with bad experience shakehead.gif

MOD, better warn him & give dispute tag OR better, ban him for good
Why? Because, this is not the first time i heard about his bad attitude
not to mention selling KO version to someone, if i'm not mistaken

He like to nego from people kaw-kaw to get what he desired
but when come to selling, his prices are stiff & unbelievable
claimed that he bought at that price somemore (Oh Really?) sleep.gif dry.gif

myboo_1988
he used the same tactic to hamsterz shakehead.gif
claimed ada habuk la yada yada yada & got his desired price shakehead.gif
how the hell you confirmed the deal in PM with certain price & complaint somemore yada yada yada to get lower prices than what've you agreed?
WTF??

INI MCM PUNYA WORANG ADA KA? vmad.gif

This post has been edited by madstone: Apr 13 2009, 10:01 PM
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post Apr 13 2009, 10:11 PM

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lol... dealt with dis guy before also... never wanna deal with him again ( i heard he got gilfren cun maa) haha~
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post Apr 13 2009, 10:14 PM

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I nearly dealt with him before. last time he wanted to buy my deep striker, but too fussy so we didnt deal. he said it's for his friend, but I have to give him the deep striker 1st before he bring it to his friend and let him check. if ok then only pay me. Then I ask him why not ask his friend to deal straight with me, he gave a lot of shitty reasons which i already forgot.. and yes he also kept on bargaining the price with me until very dirt cheap.. shakehead.gif then he thought maybe i scared he cheat my deep striker away, then started bragging about his good reputation in lelong, say he has lots of good feedbacks blah blah blah... Then he gave me a link to his lelong feedback, but when i click it the link was invalid doh.gif doh.gif

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post Apr 13 2009, 10:15 PM

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my story:
i've dealt my tfu blaster wit him before ... seriously, clearance price... i put rm60 before.. he PMed, nego after nego, we agreed rm50 ...

then the COD day ... met him.. and you know what... he asked for nego some more... rm40 ... that was even before checking it!! i was really annoyed!! i asked, it's firm.. already agreed in PM before COD!!

then i asked him to check 1st... LUCKY HIM!! i forgot to include the manual!! it's BIB stuff, complete wit everything.. but the manual was at home, forgot to include in the box...

so he bargained, he pay rm40 1st.. then after got the manual, RM5 later... somehow he wanted to nego for RM45 pulak ....

arghh.. i was so fedup!! so i said ok laa.. RM40, then i promised him to pos the manual to his address ...

after a week i think, he confirmed got the manual ... i asked for the balance... he said later ...
and seriously, his later is demm late!! took about a week!! that too after few SMSes !!

arghh!! tension i ... huh!!

lucky i avoided dealing wit him again... he wanted to buy my air rid primal ... and asked me to bring before agreeing any price ... he said wanna check the item 1st.. it's for his cousin he said (anybody got same reason like this before?) ..

i asked if wanna meet, better in subang.. im not that free to go far ... he insisted again and again to meet at amcorp... again, he's annoying me ...

thank god later my air rid primal got reserved by serious buyer.. non fussy.. and also a fren at transformers.com.my ...

TRUST ME... whoulove IS FUSSY AS HELL!!! he will do anything to get as low price as he want!!!

be ethical laa dude ... already agree the price and COD also want to nego kaa? we dont have time to layan such request ...
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QUOTE(kerberos09 @ Apr 13 2009, 10:11 PM)
lol... dealt with dis guy before also... never wanna deal with him again ( i heard he got gilfren cun maa) haha~
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next time then we deal with his GF blush.gif
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my story.

sold to him Hasbro BB & Barricade twin pack BIB and 3 misc TFs (but i forgot the initial price). but since i am clearing my shelf so i willing to sell it dirt cheap. more like selling BB&Bari TP and FREE 3 tf to him for RM60, yes, RM60. but same reason he used nego with me like with you guys (dusty, condition no good, etc etc). but since already COD, i just kasi close deal and forget abt it.

then reach home at night after work, he sms me back and say how bad the 3misc TF condition is and asking for refund. i was like, WTH i sell so cheap and still wan refund. after all, he INSPECTED the tf on the spot and agree to buy. its a mutual agreement. in the end, i told him that if he want refund so desperately, i willing to give rm5 as compensation and at that point of time, i know i wont deal with him anymore. but then somehow this refund havent kawtim and i already change my phone for fewtimes.. even his phone number i oso forgot (partly he didnt sms me his bank account, and i only remember this guy when i saw the dispute with shaun). tongue.gif if he still want my rm5, i dont mind giving him. after all, rm5 is cheap to know someone's character.


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post Apr 13 2009, 11:21 PM

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Alo geng.. 1stly I would personally like to thank all of you for the comments that you have made... coz based on your comments some got share the same experience that I have been through with Brian...

Guys do keep in mind that the main reason I created this thread is that I want to share my BAD experience that I had with Brian....
- NOT to ask for him to repay (no use one coz with this type of people u surely wont get one...) tapi kalau nak bayar aku lagi suka.. hehe..
- NOT to tutup his periuk nasi
- NOT to simply bad mouth him

BUT what I type was based on what I personally experience from him coz seriously I myself cannot tahan already. Dah lah beli devastator aku kat price yg ciput giler... pastu tanak kasi balance lagi... Pastu patahkan OP aku (tak pasal2 aku tak dapat nak jual OP tu)... last skali... almost every day he will call / sms me for me to help him to solve his problem!!! tension beb aku cakap ngan korang...

As a muslim, he himself should know that nowadays Allah (God Almighty) will simply pay cash one!! Especially to the bad people...
AND he should know better that "what he did to me or other fellow forumers will give an IMPACT on his life sooner or later".. coz I myself belief in what we muslim call (Qada' & Qadar)

Lastly I really hope that he will provide us some feedback...

Salam

QUOTE(sjn hassan @ Apr 13 2009, 07:40 PM)
Bro and any other toys buyer / seller..

when COD, the best way is ;

1. buyer check the condition
2. ask the seller to transform..don't tell me u don't know how to transform the toys if u really a collector. Don't give an excuse you are not a collector if u willing to pay for more than RM300 just for a toys 
3. after it has been transform, buyer need to check back the condition. becoz sometime the broken / repaired parts are visible in robot / alternate mode
4. buyer satisfied with the condition (as described before COD)..pay and CHOw  sweat.gif

TS..dah nasib Bro..patutnya kalau ko sendirik yg transform takkan jadik camni kan?
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yupz betol tu... ha... asalnyer aku sendiri pon tak penah transform op tu... so aku tengok dia macam pro (dari lagak bahasa dia) so dia transform la OP tu and last2 PRAK... ati aku pon PRAK..

QUOTE(richard0304 @ Apr 13 2009, 08:13 PM)
lucky me nearly dealt with him.. 
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hehe lucky u, bro...

QUOTE(jing_kohkoh @ Apr 13 2009, 08:54 PM)
I am eager to see saper-ko-cinta's explanation.
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saper ko cinta??

QUOTE(tanos @ Apr 13 2009, 09:17 PM)
phew... almost dealt with him....
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yupz becareful with certain forumers... but in reality not all forumers are orang jahat... most of us just want to create network, friends, share what we have with others or just making some pocket money to ease the pain of paying the bills

QUOTE(myboo_1988 @ Apr 13 2009, 09:51 PM)
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this is my story..i deal with him before..
i met him few times..and i finally kno him
after all i heard alot of collector said that he is the one who bought or scalped from alot of collector item and then play until rosak after that he try to con ppl and sell it

situation 1
he buy bumble bee hasbro for rm 50?  because its was close fren ok ok..after that go home he complain..the tf is not misb after all he was open n played with it..he ask for refund because he claim that misb is tampal balik wan..although it is misb bcz i was ther with him...

situation 2
my bad luck..in ebay i sold to him my limited edition megatron rm 150
we agree the item is sold at that price..he nego nego say habuk la..box dent this and tht in the rm 110..

and i saw back his thread..all this while we scalp alot of tf in tru holding 2-3 box...with my frens frm hasbro help now he is selling with 10%extra price..
*
bro... thanks for sharing your experience... hope that other people will learn from what we experience and will NOT experience it 1st hand by themselves!!

QUOTE(jing_kohkoh @ Apr 13 2009, 09:54 PM)
I noticed that too. I will be not surprised if there r more than 10 victims in this thread.
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yah true bro... if sape kena... kena make sure tak kena lagi!!..

QUOTE(madstone @ Apr 13 2009, 09:58 PM)
TS,
Please ask MOD to keep their eyes on this matter
He's done lot of dealing here already & some of them came with bad experience shakehead.gif

MOD, better warn him & give dispute tag OR better, ban him for good
Why? Because, this is not the first time i heard about his bad attitude
not to mention selling KO version to someone, if i'm not mistaken

He like to nego from people kaw-kaw to get what he desired
but when come to selling, his prices are stiff & unbelievable
claimed that he bought at that price somemore (Oh Really?)

myboo_1988
he used the same tactic to hamsterz
claimed ada habuk la yada yada yada & got his desired price
how the hell you confirmed the deal in PM with certain price & complaint somemore yada yada yada to get lower prices than what've you agreed?
WTF??

INI MCM PUNYA WORANG ADA KA?
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surely.. will update the MOD about this... ,many thanks for your concern on my bad exp bro... really appreciate it.

QUOTE(kerberos09 @ Apr 13 2009, 10:11 PM)
lol... dealt with dis guy before also... never wanna deal with him again ( i heard he got gilfren cun maa) haha~
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Wa orang camni pon ade gf chun ke.. tongue.gif

QUOTE(richard0304 @ Apr 13 2009, 10:14 PM)
I nearly dealt with him before. last time he wanted to buy my deep striker, but too fussy so we didnt deal. he said it's for his friend, but I have to give him the deep striker 1st before he bring it to his friend and let him check. if ok then only pay me. Then I ask him why not ask his friend to deal straight with me, he gave a lot of shitty reasons which i already forgot.. and yes he also kept on bargaining the price with me until very dirt cheap..  shakehead.gif  then he thought maybe i scared he cheat my deep striker away, then started bragging about his good reputation in lelong, say he has lots of good feedbacks blah blah blah... Then he gave me a link to his lelong feedback, but when i click it the link was invalid  doh.gif  doh.gif
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ha'a la... yupz its true what u say about this fella... when he bargain.. he really bargain one... BUT if u want to bargain pon... be reasonable la.. kadang2 we oso want to make some cash kan... btw i agree that the link is not workable... kalau tak pecaya click la..

QUOTE(orestes @ Apr 13 2009, 10:15 PM)
my story:
i've dealt my tfu blaster wit him before ... seriously, clearance price... i put rm60 before.. he PMed, nego after nego, we agreed rm50 ...

then the COD day ... met him.. and you know what... he asked for nego some more... rm40 ... that was even before checking it!! i was really annoyed!! i asked, it's firm.. already agreed in PM before COD!!

then i asked him to check 1st... LUCKY HIM!! i forgot to include the manual!! it's BIB stuff, complete wit everything.. but the manual was at home, forgot to include in the box...

so he bargained, he pay rm40 1st.. then after got the manual, RM5 later... somehow he wanted to nego for RM45 pulak ....

arghh.. i was so fedup!! so i said ok laa.. RM40, then i promised him to pos the manual to his address ...

after a week i think, he confirmed got the manual ... i asked for the balance... he said later ...
and seriously, his later is demm late!! took about a week!! that too after few SMSes !!

arghh!! tension i ... huh!!

lucky i avoided dealing wit him again... he wanted to buy my air rid primal ... and asked me to bring before agreeing any price ... he said wanna check the item 1st.. it's for his cousin he said (anybody got same reason like this before?) ..

i asked if wanna meet, better in subang.. im not that free to go far ... he insisted again and again to meet at amcorp... again, he's annoying me ...

thank god later my air rid primal got reserved by serious buyer.. non fussy.. and also a fren at transformers.com.my ...

TRUST ME... whoulove IS FUSSY AS HELL!!! he will do anything to get as low price as he want!!!

be ethical laa dude ... already agree the price and COD also want to nego kaa? we dont have time to layan such request ...
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wahhh macam semua orang had the same experiece je ni?? rclxub.gif

QUOTE(sjn hassan @ Apr 13 2009, 10:26 PM)
next time then we deal with his GF  blush.gif
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hehehe.... tak boleh nanti jatuh hati pula... hehe wub.gif

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QUOTE(hamsterz @ Apr 13 2009, 11:21 PM)
Salam
yupz betol tu... ha... asalnyer aku sendiri pon tak penah transform op tu... so aku tengok dia macam pro (dari lagak bahasa dia) so dia transform la OP tu and last2 PRAK... ati aku pon PRAK..
aiseh..patut ko ajak Azrin tu pegi COD ngan mamat tu tongue.gif

* Bro..gas tank tu memang bukan mudah2 blh patah...aku rase memang die pulas bukan tekan

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