Salam bro ,


I really do not have bad intention and never even tried to hurt anyone here. Especially not u , when u have been kind and frenly to me ( tak tau la itu benar atau tak, n whether is it still is )

I did try to resolve the problem and tried to keep offering u a price that you want bro, but yet I cant satisfy u bro…

To reply yr items :

1) u pun mgaku u give me rm100 , I tak force u , u r the one tat kind enuff to give me rm100, yes I paid rm80 , and yes I still owe u rm20 , but betul tak yg u sendiri kata u akan giveme further discount if I take the MP OP jugak ? and once the deal of OP tak jadi , we shud look back into this matter instead of straight hang tembak aku camni. Tambah lagi OP tak jadi is u r the one yg tak nak sgt jual
2) I have sms u a lot of time bro. op tu yg nak beli tu dia tak kisah patah dia boleh offer a price near to what you expected . I sincerely and nicely invite u out for a drink to discuss further on how much u want and expected so that we cud have a win win situation tapi u yg sombong kat gua bro.. u reject my offer. And turn around hang kata aku paksa hang keluar discuss and kacau hang. Bro , how hurtful it is ..sampai hati lu ckp cam tu ???i even offer belanja u makan as a fren….
3) Bukan aku nak sumpah bro.. but when I read all the thing u posted its like macam sebilah pisau cucuk straight to yr heart bro… selama ni aku anggap hang as a fren instead of just a seller to me, a collector fren also .. but hang tak puas hati semua ni, but u did not tell it straight to my face , so that I know my mistake, tapi terus tembak gua kat sini. Ape rasa lu , if ada org buat cam tu kat lu bro ? terutama sekali bila lu tak de niat jahat atau niat nak tipu, dan terutama sekali bila lu ada niat baik yg frenly nak berkawan dan bergaul…. Tetapi di silapkan or misunderstood yg ko ni org jahat… ape perasaan lu bro ?
4) Not trying to accuse u as an actor… but more on I was really angry also… I felt betrayed, cz u so called us as fren and so frenly…blabla and nice sangat kat aku, aku pun anggap hang kawan and nice to u , n kept call/sms u to help to solve this OP issue tapi hang terbalik hentam camtu ? tats y I dono wat is true n wat is not now..
5) Yes I have read the comments and complaints . and Sincerely I really really appreciate all the feedbacks…. And now I know how bad my repu is to all of you. But I swear to god that I never did it intentionally. And I hope for forgiveness. Is there any way I cud mend my mistake ? im welcome any feedbacks and ways to have a happy and peaceful solutions to have a WIN-WIN situation for all… if u all feel that to make u all happy is by me disappearing from this forum for good.. then I shall do that just to make all happy.

See what people said about you
it almost the same thing la bro
YG PALING AKU TAK TAHAN, COUSIN NAK BELI LA, KAWAN NAK BELI LA
CUT THE CRAP & BE HONEST LA BRO
IS IT YOUR COUSIN OR YOUR FRIEND YANG NAK BELI TU?

Aku treated hamsterz like a brother to me
he learnt lots of thing from me, bad & good

when he came to me about this situation & mentioned your name, i was like
"mamat ni lagi?"

bila dia story, ko patahkan DVD OP dia & taknak ganti, aku dah W T Fish!!???
come on laaa
as a gentleman ( if you are la ), admit & pay for the broken toy
True collector tak buat other collector mcm ni laaaaaa
dah jahanamkan org punya, ganti laaa, bayar la ganti rugi

This post has been edited by madstone: Apr 14 2009, 10:26 AM

whoulove
stop it la, please!
you are so annoyying

no need to explain more
ko mmg dari awal2 lagi dah ada intention nak nego kaw2 dgn alasan habuk la, loose la, wtfish!!!
cousin ko yg collect TF tu nama apa?
kawan ko yg collect TF tu nama apa?

Regarding loose joint.. yes sometimes its "more than meets the eyes". From pictures, can't see loose joints. Only during COD and item inspection.. can test this lo.

Regarding berhabuk... c'mon.. its just habuk which can be wiped clean. We're in Malaysia, hot and humid. But let them buyer know first before COD.


If the buyer hell-bent in getting discount, he'll say anything from the above to the "poor" workmanship quality (like poorly painted details/minor smearing). If any buyer of mine complaint on poor workmanship, I'll definitely shoot them back . As a collector/buyer, don't they know the average quality of majority off-the-shelf-transformers-mass-produced-by-underpaid-peasants"?

If many sellers complaint the same thing on one single buyer attitude, bet it must be his modus-operandi - "COD then ask for discount . Some seller no choice coz already waste $$ going out to meet the buyer".

i have to disagree with this dude.
when you're selling, it's your responsibility to clean the toys. i always clean my stuff before selling 'em. good and honourable practice, i'd say.

as buyer, well i've bought a dusty alt sideswipe before. it was really dusty, but the joints and conditions is pretty accurate to the descriptions, so yeah, i still take it, didn't even ask FOR DISCOUNT just because of dust.

so yeah there are certain things that can be accepted, but some are just plain.....WTFish? like in this case.

my thoughts:
buyer must pay for it. we all know the broken part is not that fragile. if you go into a shop, you tried playing with some expensive stuff and you broke it, what happens then? i'm sure the shop WILL NOT sell the item to you at dirt low price. this is common business practice.

hmmm... how dusty it was anyway...
sometimes, even a slight dust.. if in his mind only asking for more discount.. he will try to find anything that can make reason for ...
anything can come to play... let say a single strain of hair stuck between the robot's legs .. can also use for bargaining reason ...

for me, as long it's complete wit everything ... and no broken part or obvious scratches or paint wear off... even loose i dont mind buying ..
yes, every seller has to state the condition of their stuff ... every single thing need to mention!

but like i said ... if it dust, how dusty is it? if it loose, how loose is it? some ppl just want everything to be so demm perfect, they didnt realize 1 thing .. buying 2nd hand clearly not perfect! even a new misb wont guarantee to be perfect joints!

I know bro,
What i meant is, not too dusty laaaa
kalau dah berabuk sgt sampai, bersawang, tu lain cerita
what i meant is, small bit of dust won't harm your toys laa
sikit sikit saja habuk, kasi sapu buang laa guna tisu

I bought lot of things with lots of dust, but, who cares right?
it all can be wipe out so fast & easy
why so fussy about small prob like that right?

ONCE BROKEN CONSIDER SOLD whoulove

Bro / kawan

Like ape aku keep explaining, I do want to pay compensation like what we agreed to discuss on it, but hamster da tak nak layan , shud I b blame for that ? he doesn’t want to sell his op anymore. If he wants to sell, then I wud b hapy and glad that I cud solve both parties issue.


Bro, I had an courtesy to ask if able to nego , and if buyer really insist no more nego, then I know the final price, from there only ill think and make decision to arrange seller out or not. I wont wanna waste ppls time as well as my time. Is that also my fault ? not trying to turn back saying its sellers fault for not informing properly… but rather… y after all this incident now only every one take this opportunity to bang me ?

When cod , and after cod still remain ok and nicely and frenly… belakang tembak kau kau….


My stuff I never say cant nego. But a lot of things I myself bought expensive bro. really bought expensive cant expect to sell back cheap right ? just matter of trying to get back my cost only , itu pun salah ke bro ?

Like u say , we are all fellow collectors , lets share the passion and hobby together , and not trying to spoilt this relationship Q

for the dust part, what if the seller already clean that thing up, even told that condition in the sales topic before COD.. and still he can use that to do nego? i have been there. n i wont want to be there again. i use my trusty keyboard vacuum to clean.. and of coz, he still able to find the dust.

SALAH SESALAH-SALAHNYA laaar.


if you buy a "EXPENSIVE" toy for $300, then rape it for a while, then display it, then you WANT SELL IT BACK FOR $300? The condition of the toy FOREVER not MISB anymore. You must bertapak di dunia nyata laar.... fellow collector konon.

If you feel sakit hati bought expensive and UNABLE to cover cost when re-sell it, you better NOT buy them in the first place.

In TF toy market there are only a select few toys that able to be goreng-ed till it can fetch price higher than suggested retail . Onlya handful in recent years. As a collector yourself , I'm suprised you don't know this bare fact.

Even some MISB toys that initially thought will be in "great" demand.... ended up discounted by toy shops ( Predaking, Metroplex, Starconvoy anyone?).

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Added on April 14, 2009, 11:33 ammaybe some nooks and corners still got dust kot.

1 mm2 of dust..... tolak $1 hehe..



This post has been edited by alanyuppie: Apr 14 2009, 11:33 AM

i know what you meant, but the cleaning is still the seller's responsibility(that's what i'm trying to stress). u want to sell something, try to keep it as clean as possible, right? and yes, it's the seller's responsibility to state the conditions clearly too.

as a buyer however, dust is not really an issue if you wish it. but asking for rm10 or more discount just because of dust....that's too much. if it's too dusty for your eyes, ask the seller to clean before COD, easy as that. if seller refuses, it falls back to "customer is always(well almost) right".


that falls into this kind of WTFish case .

whoulove

Can you answer me, is it really your cousin & friend who wanted to buy others TF in the first place?
Please answer honestly

People don't want to complaint after all this while because they thought they are the ONLY person who got into this problem with you
so, they just, WTH, WTFish, just let it go, RM5 punya pasal, RM10 punya pasal, RM20 punya pasal, just let it go laaaa

The thing is, your modus operandi is similar from the start (if you still don't know la)
AGREED IN PM FOR THE PRICES THEN WHILE MEET UP, GAVE REASONS SO THAT THE SELLER FELT GUILTY & GAVE YOU DISCOUNT...
HOW LONG ARE YOU GOING TO DO THIS?
WHAT BENEFITS DO YOU HAVE FROM THIS?
maintaining YOUR GF ka?

Sorry to say this whoulove
you have broken hamsterz DVD OP & don't want to take the responsibility
If true collector, you know what i mean right?
NICE TO SEE, NICE TO HOLD, ONCE BROKEN CONSIDER SOLD
kalau ko main kat kedai Aunty Lenny ke, ToyWiz, Famitoys ke, kalau patah, ko bleh lari camgitu je ke?
of course la shop owner akan suruh ko bayar
even kat Jusco ke, Isetan ke, Parkson ke, kalau benda dah patah, rosak, CONSIDER SOLD la bro! Apedaaaa!
sebagai org lelaki, kena la bertanggungjawab
kalau awek ko tahu pasal perangai ko ni, aku rasa dia tak nak ko jadi suami dia
My advice is, jangan sampai ko termengandungkan GF ko lepas ni plak, taknak bertanggungjawab dan tanak mengaku anak tu anak ko plak
i know it's too harsh, but, in the time like this, anything can happen guys

i see alot if TF selling as BiB, meaning rape n put back to box, oso sell at the same price as they bought, or even higher ler.....

go garage sales n check...almost all of it

Depends on certain thing la sunnyboy
tak semua mcm tu bro

tgk stuff jugak laaaaaa
kalau ko beli MP08, raped, kaw2 molest, back in box, do u want to sell it as the same price as u bought it ka?

This post has been edited by madstone: Apr 14 2009, 11:49 AM

price set by demands ... if it sought after, price can soar like crazy too...
the issue here, is being ethical ... pay for the damages you have done.. then it's clear... for DVD OP, broken part.. im sure no collectors would want it, unless for kitbashing or spare parts ... pay him half of the price as compensation ...

for devastator, rm100... crazyy cheapp dude!!!!
how come didnt sell it to me?!!!
im sure somebody else wanna buy it even higher price than that...

Brian, aku baru balik dari meeting and tak tahan baca comment ko arr bro....

1st ko nak cakap aku sal tembak ke, hape ke, etc.. cakap arr Brian... sebab part2 menaip ni ko memang no.1, Btw.. dasat accusation ko kat aku.. tapi takpe ko nak cakap, cakap jelah... wa tada hal punya... sebab papepon tuhan je tau actions ko... Sebab orang type cam ko ni memang type orang yang tanak mengalah punya.. hehe...

2ndly... sal issue habuk tuh pon wat lagi arr nak buat aku nak teglak abis....

Last.... I have a question... IF the SAME THING happen to you.... If i broke the TF that you want to sell during COD, How would you personally settle this??? What would you do??? How would personally feel about it??

it is SALAH!

whoulove, if u know u bought your stuff expensive then u shud know EVERYONE also bought their stuff expensive.
whoulove, if u know u cant sell them back cheap then u shud know EVERYONE also cant sell them back cheap.

another thing is, if u already agreed with the price during pm/sms before COD then just stick with the price. why? bcoz thats wat EVERYONE does, thats wat the whole MAJORITY does and thats how the way it SHOULD be. it's called ethics if u cant do that LEARN it, its not that hard.

like u said 'we are all fellow collectors, lets share the passion and hobby together. and not trying to spoilt this relationship'. in order to do that, u need to make all collectors HAPPY. when they all happy, there is NO PROBLEM to begin with

I highly disagree with this statement. I bought a few things here and most of the stuff were really hard to find. But ALL the sellers were nice enough to let them go well below cost and 'market' price. Mind you the conditions of the items were great. Some like new.

You, my friend are no collector. Maybe someone looking for a quick buck.

whoulove,
Answer this, please
quoted from Transformers Thread

This post has been edited by madstone: Apr 14 2009, 12:11 PM

I like this 1 in bold, nuff said

This post has been edited by madstone: Apr 14 2009, 12:14 PM